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 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 190
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Now, what can you do about forcing men to write profiles and messages longer than two sentences?

Here is your free "Serious Golden" Hammer to get the Trick done ... ... lol
 Booooch
Joined: 1/26/2008
Msg: 192
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 3/25/2009 9:12:49 PM
Can someone explain how you get the FREE complimentary one-year Serious Member upgrade????

Another user told me that these are being given out. I want to know how you qualify to get one?
 Booooch
Joined: 1/26/2008
Msg: 193
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 3/25/2009 9:30:22 PM
Advertising is a wonderful thing. Reading the other posts on this thread it occurred to me that Markus has given out free serious member upgrades to women only. In doing so, other people do not want to be left behind or labeled as "non-serious members" so the multitude of free serious memberships makes others want to join in.

However if it is true that only some women were given free serious member upgrades, than this is discrimination against men. This actually ranks right up there with other dating sites that require the men to pay and not the women; Mate1 was like this. Not only is it dicrimanitory but it is false advertising in that they are leading us on to believe that all of these people currently with serious memberships have paid for them when possibly only a few have paid. Those few I am sure paid with the premise that they didn't want to be labeled as "Non-Serious member", and not the fact as to why this thread was started.

Don't get me wrong. I am no cheapskate when it comes to paying and I do like the idea of paid sites over free sites, because on free sites such as this one there is an enormous amount of people who are not serious. This is exactly why I pay on other sites and don't browse here too often. However the method of introducing this site as a paid site in my opinion was all wrong. Handled very poorly. There should have been some sort of contest to get the frre upgrades and there should have been some announcement that some member were given that status in the first place.

I thought it over long and hard and decided that I am not paying, not here and not because I am cheap or spoiled.
 Booooch
Joined: 1/26/2008
Msg: 195
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Posted: 3/26/2009 5:38:29 AM
I have one more thing to say in my rant and then I will step down off the soapbox. How many of the FREE COMPLIMENTARY Serious Member Upgrades were not given to serious members?

Kind of destroys the whole thoery of the Serious Membership in the first place huh? So there must be another reason for doing this and the only other reason would be greed.

True story, I was about to push the button to sign up for this when the logical side of my mind kicked in, and I mean I had all the information filled in, the credit card info and all. I seriously (no pun intended) thought that I needed to get in on the band wagon. I wanted everyone to know that I was serious about dating. This was even before I learned that free memberships had been given out. I stopped myself from joining, because I wanted to see how many other people joined. Then I started talking to a person that revealed that she got a serious member upgrade for free. That just made it clear to me that possibly Markus joined the unemployment line like 600,000 other people. So he is going to charge us to run this site now and we are going to make him a millionaire many times over in a year. Just do the math.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 197
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 3/26/2009 11:21:38 AM

Minimally we now know that VIPs have Credit Cards

That alone would exclude me - I don't use plastic and I never give out personal information. There is no way I could purchase the membership even if I would purchase one.
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 198
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 3/26/2009 7:05:45 PM
I did not ask for or want the Stupid desperado Serious member badge and have been stung with it. Admin still haven't replied. I can't get rid of this cack off m y profile. HOW DO I GET RID OF IT!

This new Feature by all Signs appears not be administrated, several Users have already deleted their Profile and left the Site to shake the "El Desperado" Cloud.

Those few I am sure paid with the premise that they didn't want to be labeled as "Non-Serious member", and not the fact as to why this thread was started.

Exactly, and that's the Hitch. Its not that the Few who pay are awarded bogus "Good Guy" Badges, but the Majority of the Membership which this Site was built on are getting the Thumbs down by Contrast.

Minimally we now know that VIPs have Credit Cards

If it hasn't been yet, I believe its in Progress of being "Paypal'd" too, so that makes those supposedly more "Serious" even less credible.

In view of the Fact that this Site still sends out Plain Text Passwords, submitting Credit Card Info would be the last Thing in the World I would even contemplate.

Related Links »Clear Text Password

Its now worthwhile for ISP Employees to hijack your Profile sell them to his Buddies for a few Bucks. Sorry, too Mickey-Mouse, the required Security is not in Place.
 ohthereugo
Joined: 2/12/2008
Msg: 201
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 3/27/2009 3:38:27 AM
My name is Markus and this site is my creation. For over 5 Years without a single employee I turned this site into the worlds largest dating site. Every day over 30,000 nurses and doctors, 27,000 educators, 25,000 business owners, 5,000 chefs, 2,000 pilots and 800 Architects use Plentyoffish to find love, and they are joined by nearly 1,000,000 others just like YOU!



One person running the whole show not bad
 kenfla
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 202
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Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/11/2009 7:53:15 AM
I for one, appreciate that Markus has made this a free site and main features aren't blocked for free members. I do think the "Serious Members" label is tacky and misleading. To me it would make more sense to give the Label "Serious Member" to anyone that went throught the trouble to post pictures, fill out a profile and take the personality profile. After doing all this, sending a few dollars doesn't make you more genuine!

My suggestion would be to give the "Serious Member" Label to anyone that goes through all the steps to meet someone. To collect money, which I think Markus deserves for his efforts, he should make a label for "I Support This Site". This would show people that donate in appreciation of his efforts instead of paying for affirmation, which I would be more inclined to do, than give someone a label that elevates some and degrades others that choose not pay. After all, it is advertised as free.

My $.02
 SassySky
Joined: 9/26/2008
Msg: 203
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/11/2009 4:40:58 PM

"I Support This Site".

This would be something I would be interested in if and only if my credit card info was secure.Reading "Ticket's response telle me that there is some major glitches so I think I will refrain. As far as paying a small to help support the site yeah I know I will not be with the majority I still would do it.
 mortalez
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 204
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/16/2009 3:05:42 PM
My only problem is with the wording, it implies that your only a SERIOUS member if you are spending the cash. lol.
so the members who arent paying arent serious about finding love?
 Sunshine2201
Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 205
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Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 4/22/2009 1:42:00 PM
Does anyone know how to get rid of the serious memeber thing? I didnt pay for anything, it was offereed to me through this website, yet I dont have an option to decline it, and to be honest I dont like having it on my profile.
 Mizz Demeanor
Joined: 4/28/2008
Msg: 206
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 4/22/2009 1:52:11 PM
Send a message to Admin,

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member778.htm

Use the Subject line to indicate that you want the serious member badge removed.
It seems to have worked for some other members that wanted it gone, without having to
delete their profiles.

~mizz
 mus098
Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 207
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/26/2009 5:05:34 AM
I really don't see the point of paying for a golden star to prove someone is serious.Aren't we all since we signed up for this?Don't we all have a choice to mark if we're looking for a LTR or just dating or want intimate encounters?
Players will have a field day with this golden star...
 IDanceForGod
Joined: 3/14/2008
Msg: 208
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 6/18/2009 10:55:31 AM
Are we all spoiled? Maybe. But here's my issue...right at the top of the homepage PoF is advertising as 100% free. As straight-up as the transaction maybe, that's still false advertising, and I think Markus (or whoever the Big Fish in charge is) is going to get into some trouble eventually for that.
Also, calling someone a "serious" member simply because they shell out the dough doesn't make them any more or less serious about finding someone. In the grand scheme of things, money has never guaranteed any level of commitment in a relationship, so why would I shell out $30.00 (or more) for yet another dating site. I've done the paid thing before and I was unimpressed. Feels like manipulation as the very least, and I for one will not be paying just to prove how serious I am about finding someone.
Many of you are right that PoF attracts EVERYONE because it's free...let me just point out the positive of that: "everyone" means variety, which means interesting people who don't fit the dating site "mold" that I have found on every other dating site I've tried. Perhaps I object to the semantics of the word "serious," but let's face it, we are using an online dating website where we read LOTS of words in profiles and everywhere else...words are important to us.

Side note: I'd be interested to know what the ratio of men to women was that got the free serious member invitation upgrade. Anecdotal evidence alone seems to say that a lot of women got a free upgrade, and not many men got the same...marketing strategy?
 MichaelPollard
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 209
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Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 6/18/2009 10:51:45 PM
I have no problem with an upgrade to "serious member" on filling out extra questionnaires, etc.

My problem is that the site clearly says that "it’s 100% FREE – there are no charges, ever." This fact, er, ex-fact, is highly touted

As such, if an upgrade is offered, it should be a free upgrade. In fact, the Serious Member upgrade appears to be a free one, requiring questionnaires to be filled out in order to qualify.

Until you get to the end and it asks for payment.
 blondblueyed
Joined: 8/23/2005
Msg: 210
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 7/9/2009 6:31:00 AM

ps - I agree with others' comments about false advertising. If Marcus is introducing paid membership, he needs to remove all references to 'free membership'. Let's keep it totally free please Marcus.


It is totally free, the features that were available under the “old” POF are still available without pay. The only exception is the IM, which isn’t available to anyone anymore not even the “serious” members. There have been a few features added for the paid members like more photos and the label of “seriousness” but searching, emailing and replying (barring no restrictions from individual members) have not changed one iota. When the “free” membership become restricted to just looking but no contacting that is when it would fall under the guise of false advertising.



i dont message those with 10+ admirers,strong hints of serial daters etc to me.then im old and fashioned...lol.


Well, I don't think that is being old fashioned in my view, it is being judgmental.
I am on 11 members list at one time it was over 100, and about 90% of them had never been contacted by me nor had they ever contacted me. I removed the bulk of them cause there was zero correspondence. However, the 11 makes me a serial dater??? I find that extremely amusing considering 5 of them are women, the gender I don’t date, in fact I haven’t dated or even met any of the people that have me on their faves list. Perhaps it would also be fair of me to suggest those that complain about numbers are just jealous that they don’t have more? In my opinion they just like to jump to conclusions based on their own insecurities, but I guess that’s just me being judgmental.

 blondblueyed
Joined: 8/23/2005
Msg: 212
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its serv
Posted: 7/10/2009 10:07:43 AM

There are features not available unless you pay.


Yeaaaa, I am just sooooooooooooo distraught that I can’t put more then 8 photos on my profile even though 3 or 4 is all I have ever needed to attract interest. I had to use points(which I got free) for the new backgrounds instead of paying for them, oh the humanity!!! I don’t have an ugly gold circle on my profile labeling me as despe….er, I mean serious, whatever will I do!!!

As I mentioned before there isn’t anything I can’t do here that I haven’t been able to do all along for free except the IM and that was taken away from the site all together, even if you have paid. So, tell me exactly where anyone has been hindered to the point that they have to dole out money for exactly what I get for free, except those under the premise that if you pay you will be taken “seriously”???

Sorry, it is 100% free because no one is forcing you to pay in order to have kept the features you were able to use all along unless you view not adding a few more pics and a gold label as such a huge thing to be missing out on. I am so grateful I am not that desper…er, I mean serious.



Oh, wow. Looks like someone has never heard of ad revenue. Every time you click on a POF link that has an advert, admin receives money. Yes, the admin who has become a millionaire because of this website. Amazing how you seem to know so much more about the internet than us lowly "leeches."


What pray tell does this have to do with the other poster stating that on this site you don’t have to pay for what you would have to pay for on a majority of other dating sites. I have a profile and can email as much as I want as well as using forums if I wish. On every other dating site I have been on ,all you can do for free is make a profile and look and some you can’t even look at paid members. You have to pay in order to contact them and some you have to pay in order to even contacted by an already paying member. Again, what is the complaint???? Guess the lack of a gold label and extra pics is really cramping some people’s “style”!

Yea, the Admin got rich from ads used on a site that is free to join, make contacts and email for dates, even friendships and other kinds of meets if that‘s your thing. There are even sections for people to plan meets for even more contacts and possible dates and forums to discuss or fight (though if they get too heated they get booted) about all those contacts and dates. So, is the complaint that he now implemented a system of “paying” to give some people the um, (how shall I word this) illusion that they are “serious” and they were willing to fork over money for extra pictures and a gold stamp??? Sounds to me like the issue is with someone making himself a millionaire and still attempting to make more money than any issue with the “upgrade”.
 Isabella_the_Lost
Joined: 6/21/2009
Msg: 213
Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 7/17/2009 11:06:25 PM
I don't really have a problem with a paid option, because I'm a bit of a visual person and love the backgrounds. ;p But seriously, I actually would have opted to pay for a serious membership if a monthly option had been offered, rather than a year up-front. What if I don't like it and don't want it past a month or two, etc? I think it may put some people off having to sign up for the serious membership for an entire year without ever knowing if it's going to actually make a difference or not. And with the economy in a rut right now, most of us are watching our spending closely.

I hope POF will consider a monthly option so that some of us who want to 'try' the SM can do that without committing to something that we may actually find unnecessary in the end.
 az2000
Joined: 9/14/2009
Msg: 214
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 9/14/2009 3:57:10 PM
I think PoF is great. But, I think the "serious member" thing confuses two very great ideas.

1) A way to show that someone is a serious relationship seeker.
... A personality profile gauging whether an individual is a perenial online dater (instead of real-life dater).

2) A way for supporters of PoF to show their support financially (and recognized as a supporter).

I think both of those things are good ideas. And, I think $5-$6 a month is a huge bargain especially when it's just a donation (not an actual fee).

I just think that tying the two together seemed odd. I thought I was taking a survey to show my serious. I was surprised after taking the survey to find I was solicited to pay money.

I think it would be better to have two badges. "Serious Member" and "Financial Supporter."

In the latter case, even let the supporter choose any amount above $5 to increase the multiplier value of the badge (x1 to x10).

Just my thoughts. I'm not complaining.
 caringkaren
Joined: 3/18/2007
Msg: 215
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Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 9/16/2009 2:36:07 PM
Hi.. Ive had SERIOUS MEMBER attached to my profile, for free since it started some months ago... I know i dont visit the site as often as i used too. but lately ive found i get no mail at all even after displaying a new photo...

I feel that the SERIOUS MEMBER is putting people off, at first i thought,, good, its stopping the players... but now i think its stopping everyone

Any others found this a problem
 kow626
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 216
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/9/2010 10:19:34 PM
i notice it says this on the inbox page now under the upgrade link:

*only users who are capable of forming and maintaining strong long term relationships may upgrade*

got me to thinking that if we really could, then why would we be on pof? wouldn't we be enjoying our relationship with our partner instead of on this or any other dating site?

i get it though. based on some questionnaire some of us took, i guess it determines who actually is of the right mindset to form and maintain an ltr versus serial daters, those who are just looking for a shag, or those that are simply testing the waters and aren't sure of what they want.

i'm one of those people who knows exactly what i want and have 'long term' as my 'looking for' status on my profile. so i guess the pof system thinks i'm upgradeable. but i ain't payin' for no membership, that's for sure! i've heard all throughout these forums that some chicks got that badge for free for reasons that haven't fully presented themselves. why not me if i'm being told i meet the criteria? why not everyone who really and truly does and they can do away with trying to make some bread by charging for the badge?

i think everyone should have the opportunity to retake that test and from there, it'll be determined who's serious and who's not cuz attitudes and people do change. let's start it from scratch. those who answer the questions honestly and are determined by the system to be serious daters looking for something real should be the ONLY ones who have the badge and access to special features that come along with it (if any). everyone else is a$$ out until and if they shape up their dating outlook.

now, it makes me wonder if everyone sees that text that i see under the upgrade link or just people in my boat who answered questions a certain way and are being solicited to be a serious member?
 damnyankee1977
Joined: 9/19/2009
Msg: 217
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/10/2010 6:27:32 PM
I've got the same thing under mine, and I've never taken any of the survey things on here. I don't think that admin would refuse anyone's money if they wanted to upgrade, regardless of real and/or assumed relationship capabilities.

It's kind of a mind trick thing I think. It's kinda saying, if your not a serious member, then your not serious about relationships. Admin may be hoping you'll want to prove him wrong enough to pay the fee's, get your gold star/badge thingy.

Who knows, I'm just here to laugh at my local ponds ponds profiles, lurk the forums for lots of laughs, and once in awhile, actually meet someone that isn't a good ole' country boy who lives to go fishin' huntin' and muddin'....ugh, that's a whole different thread.
 kow626
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 218
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/10/2010 6:39:00 PM
^^^^^oh, trust me, markus the kingpin ain't getting not one rusted out penny from me to be a member of this site or to get a 'badge of honor.' i think that feature can be used for something more useful though. plus, since several chicks have been GIVEN the thing, its monetary value automatically becomes worthless. why would i pay for something (in relation to this site) that's given away for free?

at least now i know that new text under the upgrade link is just another ploy for profit. i'll bet some people will actually bite too. can't hate if people take the bait.
 Kimberish925
Joined: 6/22/2008
Msg: 219
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Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 4/11/2010 1:28:05 PM
While I'm not up in arms about the whole "Serious" Member badge I didn't appreciate it being given to me with out my permission. At the time it first came out I think we were asked if we would consider it and I answered Maybe...from there I was Serious Member, free of charge. I had it removed, took less than 24 hours.
Why does anyone paying or not make them more or less serious. Please, if it worked that way the pay sites would be sufficient. Through trial and error they are no different than here, this is just a much bigger, more diverse pond on every level.

Even though I'm not intersted in the bupgrade, the new statement on the site...

*only users who are capable of forming and maintaining strong long term relationships may upgrade*

...really ticks me off. Who is making the judgement on who is capable, what are the parimeters? and Isn't the statement ironic? If we were able to maintain strong long term relationships why would we be here?? Just sayin'....

If it simply said restrictions apply, I would understand but it just comes off as derogatory...kind of like E-Harmony aka rejection central...lol.
 arts, dining, music, w/u
Joined: 10/23/2008
Msg: 220
Serious Member / Paid Upgrade Thread - Are we a tad spoiled by POF and a bit ungrateful for its services?
Posted: 5/2/2012 5:11:04 AM
I am very grateful for POF. I am grateful that the owner makes a chunk of change from this site. I am not grateful that more and more of what was once free is now no longer free.
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