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 Heffca
Joined: 4/16/2010
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You are an idiot!
 Heffca
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 67
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Posted: 12/24/2010 10:53:12 PM
No, not rely. You are just ignorant assuming so!
 Heffca
Joined: 4/16/2010
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Posted: 12/24/2010 10:54:51 PM
Good Post, and so true.
 hungry_joe
Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 1/9/2011 8:37:38 AM
Frankly doesn't Ireland have larger issues to worry about outside of Sectarianism? I mean the Republic of Ireland has had its economy bailed out by Germany. You have the rise of University costs, and the cost of living has increased. So my current response who cares, the Irish need to pull together and face the challenges ahead of them with re-guard to religious affiliation.
 foffeefifo
Joined: 11/1/2010
Msg: 70
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Posted: 3/3/2011 3:24:29 PM
i almost couldn't believe my eyes when i saw this title in a forum here.

I came here to the Ireland Forum jones-ing for some Irish news, humor, attitude because this past year I moved away from the big Irish family to a spot in America where you can't even find Guiness in a bottle.
I read the first page and was just cringing. the utter gall of another ignorant american putting his worthless two cents in on a subject he OBVIOUSLY knows nothing about makes me sick.

we got alot of those over here in the states. we aren't very well educated at all, 79% of Americans can't name a chief justice of our supreme court, can't name their representatives in congress and have no clue how we have mucked up and interfered in other countries since 1801 -yeah OP you tell me why the marine "hymn" says " from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli... WHY???? heck, we sent Marines over to Africa a scant 12 years after we became a nation.... - our arrogance and aggression has not missed one continent for over 200 years... (we as a nation are what? 16th or 17th down on the list of countries that sends it's youths to college???? Says alot about the priority of education in America, yeah it does.) Is it any wonder some dolt shows up here and expounds on foreign issues of which we are even more in the dark about. I personally have to watch BBC news on our public broadcasting station in order to find out what the heck is going on outside our shores, we never hear much at all about what is going on over seas. Our three major national news networks (no, I will not dignify Fox with dispensing news) are more interested in broadcasting Lindsey Lohan's latest escapade and who got the highest score on Dancing with the Stars, I kid you not, there are whole days and days that go by without one mention of international news. I also used to be able to watch RTV when I lived in Chicago ( no longer so, i am living in a very rural area now and it is only in large metro areas that Americans can get RTV on a weekly basis).....so let me personally apologize for his ignorant post about Protestant vs Catholic in Ireland.

I have relatives all over Ireland, both north and south and to dredge up this Catholic vs Protestant issue shows a lack of respect for the entire island. It has always been based on economic oppression, the haves vs the have nots. My relatives in the north had to deal with severe economic hardship, couldn't get hired, couldn't have the same rights as those in power. In the south it was pretty much the same thing, all exacerbated by Britain and troops brutally trying to eradicate the heritage, customs and language. Here in the states, I was being monitored by the FBI because I sent a few punt over now and then and a box of clothes a couple times of year to the relatives, they actually thought I was monitarily supporting the IRA!!!!!!!!

So please forgive us ugly ignorant americans for horning in here, having the gall to post about issues they obviously don't have a clue about. It makes me so furious. I abhor America's record on foreign relations from yeah Tripoli to Mexico to Guam to Chile to Korea to Vietnam to Panama, to Nicaragua to Puerto Rico to the Dominian Republic to Laos to Indonesia to Phillipines to Guatamala to Oman to Lebanon to Angola to Iran, Iraq and even Wounded Knee where we still couldn't let the real Americans live with dignity....to have any American show up here and spout opinions on another country's board after our dismal history of brutality and interference is just wrong wrong wrong. just my humble opinionated opinion.
 Dappersmooch
Joined: 7/2/2010
Msg: 71
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Posted: 4/26/2011 1:31:07 PM
Please stop this. I was born and raised in the US (still live here) but I have been hearing about this conflict practically all my life. Please just stop. We are all Christians and that should be enough to know better than to act like this!
 stonecastle
Joined: 2/14/2007
Msg: 72
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Posted: 7/12/2011 10:53:35 AM
If people can be bothered to do some research of their own on the internet on sites like google and youtube then they will find out that Christianity is merely a rehash of earlier pagan religions. Over the past few thousand years of history there have been many saviour messiahs - all mythical. Zeus, Horus, Orisis to name but a few.

There are also certain mistakes in Christianity that prove it is false. For example the Nazereth never existed, it is purely an invention of Christianity, it cannot be found on any map and no ruins of it have ever been found. There was also no census in 1AD and when the Romans did have censuses no one was ever required to return to the town of their birth. Following a star would also send you around in circles.

I used to be a Christian until I started to look at evidence which debunks christianity. I thought I would be able to debunk it and it would strengthen my faith but it proved to me that christianity is merely a man made religion along with all the other religions. I still believe in God and hope there is more to this world that what we see around us.
 leahhere
Joined: 7/10/2011
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Posted: 7/18/2011 6:12:32 PM
Protestant versus Catholic ! For me it is a no brainer. Who founded the Catholic Church? It was Jesus himself. He chose twelve Apostles and one of them betrayed Him. As they say there is a rotten apple in every dozen. Jesus named Peter as the Catholic Church Leader, the first Pope. Who started the protestant church? Was it not Martin Luther? Then came King Henry VIII who for his own selfish agenda founded The Church of England. He was as barbaric as al queda. He was to the Catholics as Hitler was to the Jews. He was a gluttonous gout ridden murderous monster who wanted absolute power and unfortunately he accomplished that as head of Church and State. So today the Head of the Catholic Church is St Peter`s successor Pope Benedict and the head of the church of England is King Henry VIII successor The Queen of England and it will soon be Charles. Which side are you on? Its not so complicated.
 Jana623
Joined: 8/13/2010
Msg: 74
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Posted: 7/30/2011 11:36:15 PM
Don't blame this American girl for yur problems. Human are human. Wake up and smell the roses. MAN and all men have been fighting wars since the cave mans days. You and yur fancy words, education, but not wise in the least bit. Do yur homework. GROW UP.
 liffey
Joined: 8/3/2011
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Posted: 8/19/2011 7:36:56 AM
.......................................idiot...............................
 johntheprod
Joined: 8/16/2011
Msg: 76
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Posted: 8/20/2011 2:25:58 PM
I'm from Co - Antrim, N Ireland. Got outta there 8 years ago and crossed the pond to philadelphia. I love it here were I don't have to watch what I wear in different parts of town etc. Most of my mates who I met over here who are from north or south ireland are catholics and there are 3 prods I am one and the first in our circle hence my nickname is john the prod. Its great over here we can call each other names like that and slag each other off about our politics and never get into an argument or worse. I heard its gettin worse over there again that's a shame. I can't see myself going back there to live ever as over here is so laid back and relaxed nobody gives a damn were ur from or who u vote for its ur own buisness. If like me you fancy a fresh start think about the east coast I found my new home and I love it :)
 Blarny Stone
Joined: 5/7/2010
Msg: 77
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Posted: 8/24/2011 2:47:35 PM
I guess an American like myself started this mess,It is true violence runs rampant here in the US, so we should never try to lecture anyone about anything, our Goverment is historically corrupt,and very little Americans know the truth,but i can tell you this i have lived abroad and would love to take my 6 year old daughter out of this hell hole. I dont care if your Catholic,Christian, Buddhist,or whatever faith you are,everyone has the right to believe in their own faith ,right or wrong, but killing over it, and slaughtering men woman and innocent children is wrong , i doubt we will learn to ever learn to live in Peace, but anyone who thinks there going to take myself or my daughter Shauna out because i dont believe in their faith ,has a great battle on their hands, and i may lose ,but i vow to take many with me, Hating my Goverment, Shaun
 HappyRocker
Joined: 8/13/2011
Msg: 78
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Posted: 9/13/2011 4:58:20 AM
Now if you had all ignored that little Frenchman (although it wasn't France then) turned Roman who called himself Patrick (He wasn't a saint then either) ... you would all be following the old ways and only be arguing when someone stole someone else' bull ... wouldn't you!

By the way, There never were any snakes in Eire. The icecap had melted and the seas had risen long before it war.med sufficiently for snakes to migrate into Eire. Patrick had no snakes to drive out.
 HappyRocker
Joined: 8/13/2011
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Posted: 9/13/2011 11:26:57 AM
Oh, but this post IS about dating!

It's about interesting concepts and ideas ... and believe it or not, showing the ability to form an interesting arguement and intelligence will get you interest fromwomen nearly as much as washboard abs will.

Obviously I can't provide washboard abs.
 HappyRocker
Joined: 8/13/2011
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Posted: 9/15/2011 4:55:59 AM
No argument there.
 london150
Joined: 6/23/2008
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Posted: 9/20/2011 2:37:46 AM
That was beautiful and so true.
 marylouise
Joined: 9/17/2006
Msg: 82
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Posted: 9/30/2011 2:16:03 AM
I live in Australia and grandmother to a number of babes. Eight children produced them. Here is Australia there is no division. In my family the girls where baptised catholics and the boys Anglicans. We didnt know you werent supposed to do that
Our parents are gone now but we all love each other still
 ZXTTTT
Joined: 5/10/2010
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Posted: 10/12/2011 8:13:00 AM
It seems to me the Catholics and Prodestants choose not to get on with each other only in Northern Ireland. Those that have moved on to England, America and so on, dont seem to have a problem working and living side by side. Why?
 kyakinkate
Joined: 10/2/2011
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Posted: 10/15/2011 1:18:37 PM
The sword is symbollic for separating the real from the unreal. To cut thru the biggotry of the Jewish Priesthood which had kept the people from knowing the truth and enlightened knowledge. Not to kill. So twisted. Remember, Jesus hated the Pharisees
for their corrupted ways and arrogance.
 jrobsannn
Joined: 11/3/2011
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Posted: 11/9/2011 6:20:38 PM
Hi:
I agree with you about killing, and I think the IRA is not helping the problem, but the Catholics are winning.
The Catholic mothers are having more babies then the Protestant mothers. The Catholic population is creaping up to 50%.
Of course the Protestants have their little Defense Force, which is backed up by the British Army. Maybe we need the presence of the IRA, to even thing out.
When the Irish Catholics were push of the best land, and forced to live in the hill, they lived of potatos, and over populated the place. These Irish woman and potatos sent out Irishmen all over the world.
This religious stuff is hard to understand. I have Presbyterian Grandfather, and a English Son-in-Law. In America, people don't care about religion.
The Irish inter-married with the Viking, and the Normans, but this religious thing has been messing up the works. The real problem the English had is that when the sent Normans over they became Irish. So Religion was necessary to stop this inter-marriage.
When you go to church, look at the Presbyterian Cross, it has a circle. That circle is also found in the Irish Cross.
 Deerclan
Joined: 8/5/2009
Msg: 86
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Posted: 11/15/2011 12:26:41 AM
Thanks to BordorFox for bringing some facts to this confusion. I became interested in Ireland after responding to one bombing by writing a letter to the editor of a major newspaper in Ireland. To my surprise I received an answer by mail from an individual who kindly shared some facts about the political background of this conflict. I also had believed it was religious differences that caused it, but religion is only an overlay. The real issue is just as BordorFox said - harsh English imperialist control.

But here's the thing I want to point out to my fellow countryman, the OP. We ought to be the first to sympathize with the Irish people, because we ourselves were once in EXACTLY THE SAME SITUATION AS THEY ARE TODAY. Remember guys named Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and those dudes? And remember the thing they had such a problem with? It was ARROGANT ENGLISH DOMINATION. Do you know the difference between the USA & Ireland? The English had longer supply lines (all the way across the Atlantic) to war against us, whereas they only had to go across the Irish Sea to get to Ireland. That's why we defeated the British - geography was on our side.

The bottom line is this - if the Northern Irish people are really and truly "terrorists," then so were Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and every American Patriot who fought for American freedom from British domination. You can't have one standard for ourselves, but a different standard for the people of Ireland. It doesn't work that way.

Once I'd learned a bit about Ireland, I began to wonder why I'd never known any of this before, so I went and got my old college Western Civilization textbook & found out what it had to say about it. The only mention was from the British point of view, and it was a brief mention of "the Irish problem." In behalf of my fellow countryman, the OP, I'd like to plead - it's not his fault. It's part of the brainwashing we get in public schools all the way up through college - our forefathers were "patriots," but the Irish are "terrorists" - and all for doing the very same things.

I hope I have not stirred the pot here, because my intention was the opposite - to supply a little correct information in hopes of settling down any hysteria. Thanks for listening to me "rant." :)
 guitarpikker
Joined: 11/10/2011
Msg: 87
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Posted: 11/25/2011 10:31:02 AM
My fathers family is Marshalls, and my mothers family is Moores. We are protestant. They say we came from Ireland. Just curious, any thoughts on this from true Irish people> Are them Irish names? Thanks.
 stonecastle
Joined: 2/14/2007
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Posted: 12/9/2011 8:12:05 AM
By the way all christians should read this website: http://www.libchrist.com it explains that the word 'fornication' actually means prostituition only, not all sex outside marriage as many pastors claim. The word comes from the Greek word fornix meaning arches where prostitutes used to ply their trade.
 london150
Joined: 6/23/2008
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Posted: 6/10/2012 8:47:57 PM
Um,Bryanvall, European males are in charge and have been in charge since civilization and there has never been or ever will be peace on earth. From everything I have ever learned in history there has been murder, raping, stealing resources, and killing of indigenous people by European males. Your brain must be full of rocks to come up with that. I cant believe you posted that nonsense. You sound like you are stoned. This isnt the first time you have posted something so retarded.
 london150
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Posted: 6/10/2012 8:50:35 PM
I used to believe people wanted to have peace among each other but I dont believe that anymore. There will always be evil and lets just admit certain people have no problem with keeping people up in arms.
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