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 BubbaFitz
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 76
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You Know What...-
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You can't reason with anyone on a DRUG do or don't topic.-
They'll lie right to you face and agree with you anyway's.-
People are unique in every way, and being human is a curse.-
Yes , i have taken "elegal" drugs, and liked Weed the most.-
But it went away just like my GI joes did....-
Expierimenting IS part of everyones life,,Be it fast cars, bunjee -
jumping , chased by the police or getting shot at by a crazy farmer-
that hates people swimming in there pond , yet the cattle crap in it.-
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This topic will fuel alot of arguments and may never be resolved in-
our life times, yet its the less worry for me against the starving and dieing-
people of the world . Lets consentrate on that more , and then the aguement-
will feel more worthwile..You Get Me?????
 Belle Requin
Joined: 2/17/2007
Msg: 77
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 12:07:18 PM
What I always find amusing is the sheeple who say "Dope doesn't lead to crime- I know, cuz I smoke it, and I don't commit crimes." Well, I happen to know many teens at the local youth detention centre who can attribute their presence there as a result of dope use. And most then just switch to alcohol or something harder when they get older.

The fact is, using a substance, be it alcohol or illicit drugs to zone out, get high, alter your mind, etc., isn't a healthy way to deal with stress. At least with alcohol, you can have a drink and not get buzzed- who smokes weed for anything other than to get a buzz? Personally, I just don't have respect for anyone who either can't deal with stress or who's life is so boring they need to get high.
 Connor-19
Joined: 1/27/2009
Msg: 78
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 1:27:32 PM
Congralutations!

You:

1) Came here to preach
2) Came here with your mindset on all drugs are always 100% bad and can't have any positive effects
3) Categorize anyone who disagree with you to be moronic
4) Sound like an idiot, and need some social lessons

You also come here and tell us to grow up. I think you're the one who needs to grow up. First off you should realize that forums are a place to discuss topics. Not preach. Second you need to pick your words, and arguments better. The fact that you have painted a situation black and white with no exception proves your immaturity. A 3rd grader can argue like you can.

Oh and inB4: I must obviously do pot because I disagree with you.

Sorry, I also think it is stupid to do, but only in the form of trying to get retardedly stoned and get away from your irl problems. I see no problem with people doing pot if they had a stressful day and smoke a bowl or something. The reason why it is illegal is because 80% of the population can't use pot in a proper manner.
 wtf!!!!!!!!!
Joined: 2/25/2009
Msg: 79
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 2:36:13 PM
Every time you watch a porn on the web you support violence drugs prostitution, and possibly the exploitation of children.
Every time you put gas in your car you support drugs, violence, and the starvation of children in third world countries and contribute to the ruination of nature.
Every time you buy something from china or taiwan you support violence drugs and the exploitation of children.
It's good to see the op has not decided to lose the image he has deemed worthy.

Dude!!!!! You are but a sheep. But perhaps it suits you. Somebody get the shears.

Have you noticed that all of the non partakers cannot come up with at least ONE reason as to why it is illegal?
Most of your arguments are comparable to a young child who say he doesn't like something but has never tried it. Try coming up with something remotely concrete and you may perhaps gain back bit of respect.
 Uncle Fist
Joined: 12/18/2006
Msg: 80
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 2:56:55 PM

What I always find amusing is the sheeple who say "Dope doesn't lead to crime- I know, cuz I smoke it, and I don't commit crimes." Well, I happen to know many teens at the local youth detention centre who can attribute their presence there as a result of dope use. And most then just switch to alcohol or something harder when they get older.


I was actually expecting you to say, "Dope IS a crime." And I was totally going to give you props on that because it would be true.

But unfortunately, I have to poke holes in what you did say here. Just because the majority of teens in youth detention centers smoke pot does not mean that the majority of teens smoking pot are in youth detention centers. Your statement, while not untrue, is still misleading. There are plenty of others out there not causing anyone harm and simply sitting there in their rooms watching tv and eating everything in the fridge.



The fact is, using a substance, be it alcohol or illicit drugs to zone out, get high, alter your mind, etc., isn't a healthy way to deal with stress.


Overall, I agree.

However......


At least with alcohol, you can have a drink and not get buzzed- who smokes weed for anything other than to get a buzz?


How many people honestly drink not to get some form of a buzz? Some people drink with meals, yes, that's true. Alcohol has the advantage on that one being that it's a liquid and people tend to drink with meals whereas most of them don't generally smoke while eating.

But when not used in conjunction with eating, how many people really drink without the intention of taking the edge off? Even those that like to enjoy a nice cold one after a hard day's work. Yes, it's nice and cold and could be argued to even be refreshing. But above all else, it's relaxing. Because it gives you a buzz.



You drug users will never get it. The poor behaviour, violence, poverty, and burdened social programs all get traced back to drugs...of any sort (including marijuana). This is why it's illegal and wrong.


Actually, the reason hemp was originally outlawed was because it was a threat to the the paper industry. It had nothing to do with its health detriment or recreational value.
 wtf!!!!!!!!!
Joined: 2/25/2009
Msg: 81
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 3:01:04 PM
Stop with the real facts already, they just do not want to know.
 Connor-19
Joined: 1/27/2009
Msg: 82
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 3:04:39 PM

You drug users will never get it. The poor behaviour, violence, poverty, and burdened social programs all get traced back to drugs...of any sort (including marijuana). This is why it's illegal and wrong. No matter how you spin it, when you purchase marijuana you are supporting a criminal enterprise that utilizes violence, prostitution, and exploitation of children. How does it feel?


No matter how you spin it. You're still an idiot for posting like this.

You remind me of this one catholic guy who was trying to convert me to God and that I was going to burn in hell if I didn't. You scream, you rant, you post obscenely and you can't possibly be wrong.

Learn the mechanics of having of a discussion. Creating arguments like yours is for children to create.

All I see is an immature brat who wants to preach, and which is why I don't care to see this thread anymore.
 spiritrayne
Joined: 11/4/2008
Msg: 83
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 3:13:59 PM
Well I was gonna let this thread go by, but as more people start to compare alcohol and say one drink won't hurt you but one hoot will...well I cannot contain my opinion on this any longer.

I do not smoke weed and I very rarely drink alcohol because it is my choice to be that way. But for those of you touting the shining example of alcohol being okay because you can have a drink and not be affected or that its okay because its legal...I guess you are the same people who have not sat through the night with your brother suffering through the DTs and hallucinating like a bad acid trip, shaking and puking. Or watched him the bar become the biggest jerk you have ever met. Or held his hand while he cried because of the mess his life is in. Or walked with him into an AA meeting as he trembled in fear.

Addiction is addiction is addiction. It does not matter what addiction it is...its bad. Gambling is legal but yet how many white collar crimes are committed due to needing to feed that monkey? One drink might not affect you in a very visible way but how about you blow a breathalyzer right after you finish that one drink and then tell me it has no effect.

All I know is from my experience? I would take my pot puffing pals (who all have decent incomes and pay their bills) over my boozing brother (who is facing financial ruin) any day of the week.

Edit**There are plenty of folks out there who smoke up for recreational use and hurt no one in the process...they are not the addicts.
 BubbaFitz
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 84
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/8/2009 10:48:36 PM
to Mr. WTF......-
I THINK IT'S ELEGAL BECAUSE THE GOVERMENT HAS NOT FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE MONEY ON IT YET...i stress YET.-
The people that grow and sell it, have it Masterd.-
Theres been rebelion over the years and it's still strong today.-
And there afraid to legalize it anyway,probley because of the ,
home made chemical drugs that truely harms people if it's used agressively.-
There's realy is no good answer to Why it's elegal.. I figure if Mother Nature-
Alowed it to grow on this earth and used UNALTERD and in its origonal-
form...Why isn't it OK....
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You Got Me....
 BubbaFitz
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 85
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/9/2009 8:45:45 AM
Hey Meoowzie-
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No disrespect to you , but Animals will not eat deadly plants.-
It's humans that poison the animal's , All the domesticated ones any way.
They've depended on humans and our hand outs for decades.
Wild animals have been hear long before us and will remain long after -
our own extinction... If an animal dose eat a poison plant it's usualy-
to cure an illness or to get rid of parisites, But only enuogh to cure them-
not to kill them... they taught us which were good plants and wich were the-
bad ones during our evelution.-
Sure we try new med's for new diseases , yet soon the sience lab's-
have the rats and the monkey's in cadge's once again...-
Yes it is sad and real , how we learn from the animals....-
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Go-Figure....
 Fa que
Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 86
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 5:57:26 AM
Hasn't the point been beaten like a stepchild??? (kidding... slow down)

It always comes back to the fanatics that think MJ is a gateway drug, foaming at the mouth about "it's illegal" (can't help but think of reefer madness here) and then some wonderfully articulate responses from the COUGH dopers COUGH.

Take it from me, I don't do much puffing anymore because I do not enjoy the effects the way I used to years ago, but I have had some wonderful brownies and enjoyed the effects immensely (always in the right environment, and not using any motorized vehicles).

Would I say I "do" drugs? Nope. Not a chronic and all others are taboo to me. Make me a hypocrite? Maybe but I don't care what anyone here thinks of me.

What I find maddening is that the US Jail system is OVERFLOWING with people who did nothing more than enjoy some weed .... It’s asinine to me. I hear PRISON is BIG BUSINESS.... makes ya wonder why it is illegal.
 funky_phantom
Joined: 4/30/2009
Msg: 87
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 6:27:54 AM
No,officer,I don't....
 JaYson096
Joined: 9/27/2008
Msg: 88
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 7:06:57 AM
I know rules say its wrong to spam, But I would really like it if you could bring your views of substance abuse to my website. I was reading what all of you had to say and some I can agree with, Others I can't. Please come visit.

http://www.rocbottom.info
 Fa que
Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 89
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 7:07:11 AM
^^^ DonkeyKong... (There is a game us old stoners used to play after a good puff)

I was thinking about your question and I think you need to qualify it more before I can respond. I don't think of steroids and Marijuana as being that closely linked. When I think of steroid use I think of the muscle heads at my gym that seem to always be there (no work?? Sellin weed??) And how they look so funny with their massive upper torsos and sticks for legs...

I think if you want to get into a dialogue about linking "drugs" then a closer example would be Alcohol and Marijuana. I do not liken steroids or their use to the use of the other two.

I think that the "field" about drug use on your profile is an enigma. Not unlike all the other sections to be filled out, there is a subjective-ness that can apply (or be applied) by the person who owns the profile. The whole "body type" thing has been discussed to death... the "occasional" smoker thing....
All of it depends on ones interpretation of the meaning and importance of listing it on a dating website profile...
 Fa que
Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 90
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 7:32:40 AM

If you use steroids or marajuana, there's no self-perception that can alter the truth there


Cut and dry.... you are absolutely correct!

So it is simple. On do you use drugs, anyone who has or might or does once in a year should put YES. Right? Black and white!

I wish life was always this simple.
Maybe we need to create more options in those feilds??? Like;

For the drug catagory.
Yes I smoke weed
Yes I am a crackhead
Yes I do a rail or two, but only on days that end in "y"
Yes I drink 40's till I puke
Yes I once wore my undies OUTSIDE my pants
 Belle Requin
Joined: 2/17/2007
Msg: 91
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 7:41:16 AM

One drink might not affect you in a very visible way but how about you blow a breathalyzer right after you finish that one drink and then tell me it has no effect.
Uh, breathalyzers are to measure the BAL content- unless your one drink was chugging a half mickey, or was a 1 oz drink and you're a 4'3 scrawny aboriginal woman, 1 drink is not going to put you over the limit. And in most jurisdictions, there are rules and timelines for breathalyzers- they ask you "have you had anything to eat or drink within the last 15 minutes? And they have you blow twice for comparisons, specifically to see if you recently consumed, and it hasn't been absorbed yet.

So- perhaps get more facts before you go throwing out half brained exuses as to how one drink can hurt.
 Fa que
Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 92
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 7:44:44 AM

4'3 scrawny aboriginal woman


YIKES....

Now all the pigmy aborigonal women are gonna be up in arms. Which I guess isn't that big of a deal since they are so small... I mean really, how long can their arms be anyway?

Did you smoke a bowl before you posted this? Why bring a "creed" into your "weed" thread?
 mrgreen
Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 93
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 1:59:22 PM
I use and my profile says I use. Pot is my drug of choice and I use it socially. For me it has never been a gateway drug. I don't expect others in my company to participate. I would never spark up a joint or tobacco for that matter in someone elses car, or home if it wasn't cool. If people are uncomfortable, I'll step away for a bit, partake and come back. I've held senior management positions my entire working career. I would never come to work stoned, nor would I come to work drunk. I'm a moderate imbiber and would say that most would have no idea that I had even had a toke. I was in a discussion recently with a undercover Mountie I met socially and the de-criminalization of pot came up, most of the cliches were thrown around, gateway drug, loafers, lazy stoners etc. When the evening ended I shook his hand and said I had enjoyed our chat (and I had) and I had been stoned the entire time.......

I don't get falling down drunk and I don't get falling down stoned either.

Peace
Mr Green
 psssst
Joined: 6/4/2007
Msg: 94
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 2:17:34 PM

If you use steroids or marajuana, there's no self-perception that can alter the truth there.
So if I use a steroid inhaler such as Becloforte for the treatment of asthma... I would then have to claim that I do drugs in my profile?

Exactly where does the line get drawn...


Kinda like being "a little bit pregnant". You either are or you aren't.
I'll call you later and we can discuss my having a little attack of PMS...
 Uncle Fist
Joined: 12/18/2006
Msg: 95
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 2:31:55 PM
Good question about steroids. I suppose that depends on who you ask. Most juicers probably wouldn't consider it using drugs. And honestly, I don't even think most sports fans really consider it using drugs so much as just cheating.

But I'm sure there are plenty of others that would argue it's a drug and should be categorized as such.

Personally, I'm not sure. I'd have to think about that a little bit.
 Belle Requin
Joined: 2/17/2007
Msg: 96
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 3:06:40 PM
Now all the pigmy aborigonal women are gonna be up in arms
Psst- look where I live. In Cda, we refer to the "indigenous population" as aboriginal. "Indian" and Native have gone out of style. And sadly, there's research that suggests our aboriginal peoples do not metabolize alcohol the same as people of European descent. It's inconclusive, but means there's a distinct possibility that a 4'3 scrawny aboriginal may not metabolise alcohol as quickly as a 4'3 scrawny white woman. Andy my example of course was trying to create someone likely to have a high BAL after one drink.



Did you smoke a bowl before you posted this? Why bring a "creed" into your "weed" thread?
Hardly. I have nothing but disdain for tokers, and would never partake. However, if you smoked a bowl, that might explain why you seem to think my post had anything to do at all with a creed, which it clearly didn't.
 Uncle Fist
Joined: 12/18/2006
Msg: 97
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 3:16:53 PM

It's really sad that so many of you have allowed substances to take over your lives. The fact that your primary method of "relaxing" involves getting high is pathetic. Drug use is for the weak.

I suggest you all look back in time and examine your lives. I suspect that the reason 100% of people started using drugs was to feel "badass" and to rebel against social norms and order. No 12-18 year old kid researches the history, pros, cons, and health effects of marijuana (to make an informed and "wise" decision) before taking their first toke. This is totally understandable and attributed to youthful folly. However, there is a time to grow up, put it behind you, and start setting examples and being a role model for the next generations. Just because your experience with drugs seems harmless does not mean it is the same for everyone. Using marijuana is an immature, childish activity. Be mature and grow up.


Hallelujah! I have seen the light! Thank you, kind sir, for opening my eyes.
 down/colorful/hill
Joined: 1/8/2009
Msg: 98
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 3:57:45 PM
I respect moderate and thoughtful civil disobedience!
 rickxyz
Joined: 1/27/2009
Msg: 99
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 4:24:06 PM

I suggest you all look back in time and examine your lives. I suspect that the reason 100% of people started using drugs was to feel "badass" and to rebel against social norms and order.
- what garbage, people do it because it feels good, like sex and beer.


Using marijuana is an immature, childish activity. Be mature and grow up.
- yeah grow up like all the adults who drink!
 Fa que
Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 100
Do you do drugs???
Posted: 5/14/2009 4:31:11 PM

Psst- look where I live. In Cda, we refer to the "indigenous population" as aboriginal. "Indian" and Native have gone out of style. And sadly, there's research that suggests our aboriginal peoples do not metabolize alcohol the same as people of European descent. It's inconclusive, but means there's a distinct possibility that a 4'3 scrawny aboriginal may not metabolise alcohol as quickly as a 4'3 scrawny white woman. Andy my example of course was trying to create someone likely to have a high BAL after one drink.




Did you smoke a bowl before you posted this? Why bring a "creed" into your "weed" thread?

Hardly. I have nothing but disdain for tokers, and would never partake. However, if you smoked a bowl, that might explain why you seem to think my post had anything to do at all with a creed, which it clearly didn't.



Pssst. You are talking to a person VERY familiar with who aborigonals are and I was insulted FOR them with your comment. And here you make it even worse by threepeating it. Shame on you!

As for your disdain, I would suggest there would be much better targets for it than people who puff once in a while.
As for me smoking, haven't in many many moons... I was making a joke. Since you are a fellow Canuck, I would assume you have a sense of humour... although your province could be a little "backwards"
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