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Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 83
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The main reason a man will not want his wife or girlfriend to work in a strip club is because of the treatment strippers get. strippers/dancers get treaded like shit by other dancers, bouncers, waitresses, and customers. So, thats why a man would not want his real woman to be a worker in a club.

I gotta think it's that a woman stripping, on a stage, or anywhere else, bending over, caressing, or swinging on, a pole- all gives the impression that she's offering it to the audience, any one or more of them. Yeah, they trade on that impression, however false, to milk money from the patrons. Hey, a guy has a beer, or two, he's gonna give it a reach, take a stab at it.
Nobody wants his SO getting stabbed by somebody else.jmho
Joined: 7/6/2009
Msg: 85
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Posted: 1/28/2010 10:13:39 AM
kissmekindsir : As far as a Christian woman in a bathing suit that was latter overlaid with lace as on my profile, it just goes to show how decanant America is and how 'gutter-oreinted' most mindsets have become.

That bathing suit must have been spray-painted on to be that low on the chest.

translationgal: what you do in the end is your business; irrespective of the comments of others. From the articles I have read; it is not a happy lifestyle. Though, you should ask yourself what you would say if your child finds out someday. Curiosity is one thing, but please consider the long-term ramifications of doing it. Good luck.
Joined: 5/21/2011
Msg: 87
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Posted: 9/9/2011 5:38:06 PM
Hello and thanks for your post, I agree with you. I live in the real world not a dream world in my head. I personally don't go to strip bars, The women there are well "exactly what you said" And your right I would prefer my intimate times be spent with the woman I'm dating, and spend my money and time building that relationship!!!!!!!!
Joined: 8/6/2011
Msg: 88
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Posted: 9/9/2011 6:11:22 PM
Look, some couples have open marriages. Stripping involves erotic activity but is not having sex with someone else in the sense of physical intimacy. If stripping is something that you enjoy and better yet, it gets you a little horny, I would bet when you came home you would be a very nice ride in bed. Maybe I'm wrong headed about this but if it is something you enjoy, you have a right to do it. You deserve to be with a guy that accepts you for who you are and is not jealous if you give a little erotic pleasure to other guys.
Joined: 12/25/2009
Msg: 89
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Posted: 9/9/2011 10:20:46 PM
I've been in a strip club twice, once to pick up a check for remodeling their restrooms (working before they opened) and the second time picking up a set of house keys from a friend's ex boyfriend. But a lot of strippers used to hang out at this country and western dance club I went to about 10 years ago and I knew guys that dated strippers. Very, very messed up women without exception.

Strippers do more than wiggle on a stage, they do lap dances. Who in their right mind would want to dry hump a guy for a living? Who in their right mind would trust a woman that thought so little of herself that she sold herself for a few bucks? Most of the strippers would have stories about hustling guys, keeping a dozen losers on a string and sucking the cash out of their pockets. Both deserved the other.
Joined: 5/21/2011
Msg: 90
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Posted: 9/10/2011 8:24:49 AM
I argee with Kissmekindsirs post #43 "You proved it when you paid her" Most of these women strippers and prostitutes, are self obsorbed and narcissistic, they have no education or skills so ofcourse they're good maninulators, that's they're only survival technique, feeding off those looking for a quick fix. If you ask me these women and the customers deserve eachother. Self obsorbed people remind me of those mindless annoying seaguls in that movie Finding Nemo "Mine mine mine"..........LOL
Joined: 10/8/2009
Msg: 91
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Posted: 9/10/2011 8:47:29 AM
I'd date a stripper.....
Joined: 9/4/2011
Msg: 92
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Posted: 9/10/2011 8:59:37 AM
if you manipulate men for the sake of taking their money then you lose respect for men. This translates later in issues with your own man.... if he is ok with it then he is a dog and he doesn't respect for woman either. I worked as a door man for almost 9 years and found that every woman had a hang up with men they cared about. They were often two faced and constantly lied to cover up things and would ask me to vouch for them. I would because I was there for them and didn't want them to suffer any more than most of them are already were. Only one out ten girls would keep it real and professional... ie they would make the least money.
Joined: 12/19/2009
Msg: 93
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Posted: 10/23/2011 4:21:55 PM
I have no issues with the woman I am with stripping. It is like flirting and talking with others. My only issue would ever be, if the woman I were with who was a stripper, did anything to break my heart and trust. In this case, doing more than stripping and not coming home with me. It's like when you are with someone at a party or a bar, and she is talking and having a good time with other people there., if there is trust, I have no issues, as long as, as I said, we go home together. And some things, are only for me and no one else. I see the women at the casinos who dance and wear sexy things while dealing blackjack at a casino not as sex objects, but as women working making a living. I am more amazed at the drunking guys who would get slammed drunk and lose their money, thinking the more they lose the better chance of getting into her knickers or panties... UH NOPE. So, I have respect for people who strip for a living. And think of the wife of the breast implant doctor or the wife of a GYN who examines women nude for a living... no one makes an issue about those professions. And how many of these doctors who examine a nude beautiful woman doesn't get aroused? But yet no one says anything derogative about a male doctor who intimately examines a nude woman patient and does more with her than any man with a stripper can ever do.
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Joined: 7/29/2006
Msg: 94
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Posted: 11/1/2011 1:31:01 PM
but then again I love women that show off
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 95
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Posted: 11/1/2011 3:21:23 PM
strippers basically are a fantasy type of thing for dudes...

its not real...

they are selling the fantasy of their naked nubile body for money to random dudes, any and all comers.

not sure that bodes well for a serious committed loyal relationship for a guy to have his gf doing that...or for a girl to really respect her man for being with a girl like her while she is doing such things.
Joined: 10/8/2009
Msg: 96
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Posted: 11/1/2011 8:48:38 PM
It depends on the individuals......if she views it as a job then no problem, just like actors, waitresses or even bouncing like I do......if they get confused as to what their job is and make it a lifestyle then that can be a problem!
Joined: 6/17/2011
Msg: 97
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Posted: 11/2/2011 5:26:55 AM
I asked one out once, back in high school. Never really got a response though. She seemed sweet though. And she made my cum once just by playing with my nipple. Talk about talented!

I kinda have mixed feelings on it. I wouldn't be bothered by other guys looking at her--if she's reasonably attractive, that's gonna happen anyway, only difference would be her being nude. But I wouldn't be so keen on other guys getting lapdances from her. The ones I got from that one girl were basically simulated sex, and sometimes not so simulated.

There are some other issues, but they kinda depend on the situation and stuff. They often make good money (not that that should be a deciding factor in a relationship, but it doesn't necessarily need to be a concern either); she was working to support her family back in Brazil. But to me, it doesn't seem like a healthy environment to work in. There's always a risk in that industry of progressing into prostitution, or getting into drugs and stuff, and I think the work puts one at a greater risk of sexual violence.

And then there's the issue of respect. I wouldn't be too terribly bothered by other guys seeing my girlfriend naked, but I'd get pretty pissed if they didn't treat her with respect. And in my experience in such establishments, I don't see a lot of respect for the ladies. I haven't been to a strip club since high school, but when I do go, I treat all the dancers with respect, even the ones I'm not attracted to.
Joined: 9/11/2011
Msg: 98
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Posted: 11/2/2011 6:04:37 AM
Go to the beach and you'll see more women's "goods" than even possibly at a strip show. Just saying.

Me thinks some of us have double standards. A stripper is seen as not girlfriend material, but guys will go, pay, and watch her strip. Good grief. It's just a job.
Joined: 9/11/2011
Msg: 99
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Posted: 11/2/2011 6:14:58 AM
Laughs_ Hugs_ Smiles says: [And how many of these doctors who examine a nude beautiful woman doesn't get aroused? But yet no one says anything derogative about a male doctor who intimately examines a nude woman patient and does more with her than any man with a stripper can ever do.]

While I agree with the bulk of what you (Laughs_ Hugs_ Smiles) say, I do take issue with the above. I've known a few male doctors in my time and they are not aroused at all when examining women patients. Just as stripping is just a job, so is practicing medicine. I myself see many clients in my profession, male and female, and I am not in the slightest bit aroused by them. There is a place for just doing one's job and a place for allowing sexual juices to run riot. Most of us in the caring professions do our work dispassionately. Those who cross the line are not treated well; they lose their jobs and reputation in one fell swoop. Derogatory comments are poured upon them.
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Joined: 7/29/2006
Msg: 100
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Posted: 11/2/2011 1:17:31 PM
Lots of guys said, there not worthy because they do it for money, well that would make every man working on wall street or a bank not worthy of a relationship either lol
Joined: 11/16/2008
Msg: 101
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Posted: 1/26/2012 3:45:45 PM
From Pomrose:

" I live in the real world not a dream world in my head. I personally don't go to strip bars, The women there are well "exactly what you said" And your right I would prefer my intimate times be spent with the woman I'm dating, ..."

Not only has the strip club thing polluted so many that it is legal in many states. The worst part is what it does to the man and woman relationship. In that men by going there are telling women that thier sexuality is worth more than the males.

If you understand the Queen Bee role in a behive, where the females run everything, then you create a value system where women are put on higher than a pedastal in that they are actually worshipped, vaginal worship.

As far as intimate times, Biblically speaking, isn't that supposed to be in the bonds of marriage?

Why can't men have thier wives be thier private stripper and husbands can strip for thier wives also!
Joined: 12/12/2010
Msg: 102
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Posted: 1/26/2012 5:37:59 PM
Strippers come in all flavors, from the girl who actually is working her way through college (rare, very, very rare, though many make this claim) to the drug addicted, substance abusing sociopath (very common). Heck, there's quite a few who are gay and many more who are bisexual.

Can you have a balanced relationship with these people? Sure, if you're into the same things they are and your idea of balance aligns with their idea of balance. Just depends on what you're into and the stripper you pick.

I've seen the couples that do coke, have sex (most of the time with each other, sometimes with other people behind their partners back), and fight, over and over again, and stay together for years. Not the kind of happiness I'd want, but it seems to work for those who crave and need that Jerry Springer, high drama lifestyle. And there are those people who can't tell they are on the roller coaster unless it's going up and down very fast.
Joined: 1/20/2012
Msg: 103
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Posted: 1/27/2012 12:52:44 AM
Haha big misconception is that strippers are big time whores but the reality is office girlies and 9-5'ers or "regular girls out whore strippers strippers just want the customers money on the dance floor they 99% of the straight dancers (a lot of dancers are lesbians)a have boyfriends/husbands/baby daddies people who. They actual care about and are saying whatever it takes to get your money they don't actual like the customers actually the customers disgust them trust me when the lights go on and they are back in their street clothes and the customer tries to get with them watch how fast the girl dissappears so the biggest real problem with dancing is the public knowledge your girlfriend gets naked for everyone to see at this location every thursday night but fyi that buisness died so forget it don't bother
Joined: 7/19/2007
Msg: 104
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Posted: 1/27/2012 1:51:00 AM
Its interesting to see how different people make stereotypes,
to date I don't know any important inventors/ scientists /states-persons
that had previously been strippers tho. well,,,, there is Cicciolina! and Freud was very oral!

who cares they strip or don't strip, they whore themselves or not,
ask yourself
1. Do you love 'em?
2. Do they love you?
3. Can you accept their actions?
4. Will you take the risks (real or perceived) consider answer from #1
Joined: 12/21/2010
Msg: 105
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Posted: 2/17/2012 4:51:09 PM
I just found this little forum thing today. This is hilarious. So many people in this thread are just so bitter about the topic. It's not a big deal. If a woman wants to dance topless or naked for a job, sure that's her right. Last I checked, it's still a free country. The occupation does come with a social stigma and stereotype, but not all of them are whacked out on drugs. It is what it is.

The religious rants are particularly funny to me. Lovinvixen you are all over the board with your nonsense. I don't know where you came up with that nonsense about our servicemen fighting for an unjust cause because we have strippers and prostitutes in this country and that the more just side won in Vietnam. Two things sweetheart 1) spell check, and 2) what in the world did the Vietnam war, have to do with this topic? If you're going to get on your religious high horse, at least make some sense. Our fighting men and women have endured conflict so that ALL people of this country have the right to speak their mind and be who they want to be. That goes for strippers, prostitutes,****ail waitresses, and self righteous contradictory religious zealots like you.

PS don't forget to tip your bartenders
Joined: 4/20/2011
Msg: 106
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Posted: 2/18/2012 1:40:13 PM
Stripping shows you a side of men YOU really dont want to see. But Yea if you are pretty YOU can make a damn good living. Many of the girls are just normal girls. Paying bills going to college. And yes there were girls working well in to their 30's and 40's. Men like different things. The men arent paying so much for the naked woman as the attention of a pretty woman. Most of them feel ignored by women they find desirable so they pay for the attention. In order to make a good living you have to be able to talk on a multitude of subjects. And make lonely men not so lonely for a little while. That is also how you get regs.
Joined: 4/20/2011
Msg: 107
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Posted: 2/18/2012 1:55:12 PM

Lots of guys said, there not worthy because they do it for money, well that would make every man working on wall street or a bank not worthy of a relationship either lol

It would make doctors and teachers and priest and anyone who does anything for any money NOT worth it. LOL

A lot of jobs can make you jaded and not pay near as well. But it will change your view of men in general. After you see enough grooms running around looking for the girl who does extras you look cross eyed at men. After you had enough men ask if you are a good girl and where are all the bad girls. AFTER you seen enough men talk about strippers like they have tails but RUNNING up in a club waving their 20's it can have a very negative impact on your view of men. But you can make a truck load of money if you have the looks for it.
Joined: 9/5/2012
Msg: 108
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Posted: 1/6/2013 8:26:51 AM
I will agree that if both parties have the trust then it is ok but you will have to agree when having a family comes into play things need to change. You then need to look more into the future and not your own.
Joined: 4/17/2011
Msg: 109
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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:38:42 PM
Claiming that all 45 signers of the constitution were "con artists' is a MAJOR stretch. I'd like you to justify that comment.

The line "all men are created equal" Is from the Declaration of Independence. What needs to be understood by that statement is the vernacular of the time.

It meant all ENGLISH MEN are created equal. The meaning is that the British subjects living in the colonies were not being treated equally under the English constitution and common law.

I also want to address something you post in your profile. Death penalty for prostitution? Are you kidding? I don't avail myself to their services myself, but the death penalty? Please tell me you're kidding. You call yourself a christian don't you?

What would Jesus do?

I doubt HE would be saying KILL THEM!!!

You advocate the killing of those who visit prostitutes? Exactly what kind of christian are you? Can you show me in the Bible where it advocates that? "hate the sin, love the sinner".
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