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 acorn
Joined: 9/17/2009
Msg: 233
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Prak!! you have outdone yourself! Outstanding young man
 sabscales
Joined: 1/20/2010
Msg: 234
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Posted: 3/12/2010 11:04:37 PM
This is utter bullsh1t.. I just read ten yes TEN frigging pages to get to the bottom of this problem/issue with australian man for NOTHINGGGGGGGG grrrr!!!!!
I was going to be enlightened and instead I was entertained.... I'm disgusted.

Ps.. I don't think there's anything wrong with Australian men as a general rule... just a few bad appleas here and there but heyyy there's a few bad apples everywhere and, the famale apples can't talk much either.
 julianx
Joined: 2/9/2008
Msg: 236
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Posted: 3/13/2010 1:08:53 AM
^^^Ahhh that would explain why my eldest son came home with a black eye the other week
 bluejaybella
Joined: 12/17/2009
Msg: 237
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Posted: 3/13/2010 2:33:21 AM
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99 George Town Rd, Newnham
Launceston, Tasmania, 7248
Note the address, where only the good ones come from!!
 JimStone60
Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 238
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Posted: 3/13/2010 12:12:10 PM
It also explains which casino my two daughters went to recently as well.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
Msg: 239
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Posted: 8/25/2010 6:29:10 AM
Why is it that men themselves don't seem to do more in the fight for their rights? Women seem to run roughshod all over us and we appear unable or reluctant to fight back. Would really appreciate some feedback as to this shocking state things and this of apparent mindset. Men are the weaker sex, really. We die earlier, have to work harder to attract a mate, come home tired and work to entertain her so that she doesn't run off, work hard outside the home, miss out on our children growing up and developing a relationship/bond with them, end up getting turfed out of the homes we built and paying rent because the woman becomes primary carer on account that we had to go out into the world to support the family, pay child support(a disguised form of alimony as we do not have any input as to how it is spent or if it is spent on the children at all), lose our tax entitlements for the children despite paying child support and if we somehow overcome these problems and try to pull ourselves out of this hole, have the rent money on any investment property we might strive to acquire counted as total income( for child support purposes)despite it being negatively geared and our real/true income suffering a loss.(This effectively means we are unable to invest for our future) The current federal government, Labor, has also reversed the conservative policy of ensuring a 50% custody of the child between both parents. Its currently back to the bad old days of if your're lucky you might get to see your child one weekend every fortnight. New "domestic violence " laws were further enacted to enable women to kick their partners out, no proof needed. One phone call and the jacks turf you out with ten minutes to pack. By the time you go to court, they tell you that since you're out, you might as well stay out because don't forget, they get custody of the children as primary carer and therefore the house. Family court lawyers are now automatically telling women to put in a claim of domestic violence to get their husbands out. "Violence" furthermore is defined so broadly that a failure to give your partner money to go shopping can effectively fall within the definition. Furthermore, men are at greater risk of drug use, alcoholism and suicide. Don't blindly believe all that I say. Do your own research and hopefully more men will get involved in fighting for our rights. If our lives aren't worth fighting for, we must really be stupid. No wonder women laugh at us and treat us like fools. I think we just might be fighting for our lives.
 madmaxmel
Joined: 3/17/2010
Msg: 240
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Posted: 9/10/2010 12:40:03 AM
Okay that was pretty heavy steve..... If a marriage has no love in it these things happen,,,, but i don't know the answer...... Personally us blokes have got to care more about family and if we get it bad start to first marriage or relationship,,,, we may be lucky to get a second chance........ Sorry to our parents culture and friends who bought us up to be responsible,,, but with second chance we can hopefully chose a real lady who is caring, kind and able to build a foundation of a family again.... If you are facing possibilities of being thrown out,,,, a restart is not a bad idea or just go it alone.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 9/11/2010 7:08:00 AM
True. If you have the time though, do check out Men's Rights Agency, Australia. It will give you the lowdown on the precarious state of Australian men.
 greyingred
Joined: 6/12/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2010 12:12:30 AM

Violence" furthermore is defined so broadly that a failure to give your partner money to go shopping can effectively fall within the definition.


nope, not true in the slightest.


The current federal government, Labor, has also reversed the conservative policy of ensuring a 50% custody of the child between both parents. Its currently back to the bad old days of if your're lucky you might get to see your child one weekend every fortnight.


funnily enough either way it is the children who are put first and there is sufficient body of evidence to suggest that 50/50 care is even more disruptive for the child than the so called bad old days.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 9/13/2010 2:45:51 AM
Domestic violence/abuse is defined as :-
verbal abuse: such as insulting, derogatory or threatening comments;
emotional abuse: such as acting in a manipulative manner;
physical abuse: such as the use or threat of physical violence towards a person or towards their children, pets or associates;
sexual abuse: such as the use of direct or indirect coercion to engage in sexual acts against one’s will;
social abuse: such as regulating and restricting a person’s interaction with friends, family and the community in general;
economic abuse: such as controlling a person’s financial resources for essential needs like food and clothing;
That example falls under economic abuse. It has been argued that the definition of domestic abuse has been framed so widely that it will take judge made law, the ratio decidendi of cases in court, and the expenditure of lots of time and money by men to eventually define what constitutes violence/abuse

Wonderful. Love that argument. In this fair world, I propose that the Family Court award the children in marriage breakups to the fathers to prevent disruption to the children. Mothers can then have the children one weekend every fortnight, as is their right.
 MsMuffet2
Joined: 5/23/2010
Msg: 244
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Posted: 9/13/2010 5:52:48 AM

there is sufficient body of evidence to suggest that 50/50 care is even more disruptive for the child than the so called bad old days.


That's an interesting claim. What is the 'sufficient body of evidence'?
 greyingred
Joined: 6/12/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:18:31 AM

that's an interesting claim. What is the 'sufficient body of evidence'?


Department of Children Services. Child Psychologists affiliated to hospitals and government funded services. Salvation Army, St. Vincent De Pauls and education departments.

not you but the message above yours....suggest grinding axes should cease to be a hobby, it only reveals valid reasons for not being granted parenting on a permanent basis.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:10:13 AM
Agreed. Absolutely. That is why men should have custody and women can have the kids one weekend every fortnight. If the man then changes the arrangement, the woman can then take the matter to court to fight for new visitation rights again, and bear the court costs. Step back, take a walk in the men's shoes before you condemn. Its so easy to be glib when you hold the whip hand. The statement behind this situation says that fathers are not important. They are important enough to pay "child support" but not important enough to play an equal part in the upbringing of children in Australia. Something is very wrong here.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:16:37 AM
Oh yes, furthermore just say for example the roles were completely changed here in Australia today. Fathers had custody, mothers had to go out to work, pay child support and perhaps if lucky had their children one weekend every fortnight. Suggest you and many other women would not be happy with the situation and might be "grinding axes" as well. And if you fight for your rights, it might be good reason for mothers not to have permanant custordy.
 greyingred
Joined: 6/12/2008
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Posted: 9/15/2010 2:41:11 AM

Step back, take a walk in the men's shoes before you condemn. Its so easy to be glib when you hold the whip hand.


again the use of emotive metaphores aka whip hand reveal a biased, judgemental and in general typical 'male' agressiveness to what is a highly sensitive issue.

As for women going out to work...discarding history which has women legal prohibited from entering Universities, working full time without the permission of their man etc etc., I have no problems but since the average wage is still less than 2/3rds of the equivalent male salary, most children would suffer more....oh why on earth am I bothering here????!!!!!!!! I have been in the opposite situation trying to force the father of my children to see them...I gave up asking for maintenance because it merely inflamed the situation including high levels of violence. Go chill, maintain contact with your children with civility in mind because they WILL gain perspective when they are adults and so far from your stance it could well be a possibility that they will be grateful you were not the custodial parent.

I have a deep distrust of fanaticism from either gender and Male Confraternity is infinately more scarey and damaging to society than feminazism....just look at the past 2,000 years.

And now I bow out cos you are bordering on being a troll.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:03:34 AM
Hey, I'm truly sorry about your personal experience. I suppose you learn to fight when you're asian in this country. I hope things get better. Good luck and all the best.
 madmaxmel
Joined: 3/17/2010
Msg: 250
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Posted: 9/15/2010 2:28:18 PM
I find emotional abuse is a major problem of today. ....Best option is to remove the fighting with partner and sometimes to let go of our children is only way to go ahead....With time and healing we may be able to see kids,,,,, but some of us really need to move on and get out before wife looks for ways to remove us.....We need to be in situation of happiness first,,,, then plan from there.... Letting marriage go is good idea if children getting hurt.... It does not matter who is correct in relationship.... Kids need stabilty and we need to let go of family.....Vowel of marriage not enough to continue a bad marriage because we hurt children....
 ~Pedro Sanchez~
Joined: 8/23/2010
Msg: 251
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Posted: 9/25/2010 12:25:22 PM
The issue with men in Australia, on a subconscious level hark to the days when Aussie men were toddlers...when all we ever wanted out of life was a 'bitty' (a bit of titty = bitty). Even when we were spoiled, rotten, obnoxious germs, nothing could be as comforting and peaceful as a bit of cossie and a bit of titty. Mum knew this and as a matter of course, the policy at home was that of appeasement. Then mum deemed it inappropriate and shut the valves on us...for me personally it was age 2, but for some it could be as late as 23.

In the same way as we dropped the 'y' from 'mummy', we also dropped the 'y' from bitty. Problem was if and when we were not getting a bit. Girlfriends and wives do not cave in like mum with some bullshit appeasement policy. Therefore now, we throw a tantie (tantrum to our American cousins). And that is basically what's the issue with men in Australia.

Grumpy men = not getting a bit.

What would exacerbate this tricky situation is that if divorced me n who pay child support is not getting any and their exes are! Men in this situation automatically assume that they are financing their exes wanton hedonistic lifestyle! Holy ****...now that is one ****ed up situation...a bit of lemon to the open gash! Heartbroken, lonely, broke, on top of that, the ex is having an orgy somewhere with no other than the late great John Holmes!

I can't really help my brothers in that situation....either they find a way to get that tension out of their system by going out some more and meeting women (preferably normal, unencumbered, anti-depressant free) or they do it themselves.

Here's a tissue for your issue.
 Steve1394
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:32:06 AM
We have one glorious moment at birth getting out and spend the rest of our lives trying to get back in. Sigh!!!
 madmaxmel
Joined: 3/17/2010
Msg: 253
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Posted: 11/20/2010 6:33:29 AM
lol steve that was funny
 The_Grey_Fringe
Joined: 11/11/2011
Msg: 256
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Posted: 11/15/2011 4:22:29 AM
Do I look like a weirdo to you??
 martolives
Joined: 11/20/2010
Msg: 257
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Posted: 11/21/2011 7:20:24 AM
I don't think you've met enough Australian men if you need to generalise this topic in such a way.
 smothy
Joined: 1/26/2008
Msg: 258
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Posted: 11/21/2011 10:20:16 AM
To the grey fringe
only in pictorial presentation

Why bring this back to life are you that board
 crustyold
Joined: 4/25/2011
Msg: 259
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Posted: 12/6/2011 9:06:34 PM
been too that part of the world, so different, so loved it........the music, the dance

as 4 guys here..............go out west, the guys there, well some anyway. speed to much time on the land...............cart talk to people, & women..........really interesting there

I am just a westie, some of you will no what that is......& a motorbike rider as well...& chatting to people, love talking..........

must start a thread on women..........going to pay for that............love ya all
 gingerosity
Joined: 12/10/2011
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Posted: 12/14/2011 5:34:03 AM
I think the BIG ISSUE with men in Australia is the magazine the homeless guys always get us to buy from them. Take pity on them, OP. They're just trying to make ends meet
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