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 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/13/2015
Msg: 585
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You're assuming they said something before asking her out.

If telling a woman you're only going to ask her out if she agree's to go dutch is the key to your success then keep on doing it.

Doesn't appear as though that particular approach works very well though due to the posts made by proponents of that requirement, as eventually the tale ends with the woman being shallow and not giving the average nice guy a chance. Them sorry no account women... right?


I want a woman who likes me because of my personality- not because of my ability to buy her something. Not all women who pay for their own meals are shallow- in fact, most are anything but shallow.


I'm am shocked that these guys can complain about paying for a date when they're the same one's who can't get a reply, can't get a meet to begin with and all women are shallow. It's just a bytchfest for the disenchanted.


Who says we can't get a meet to begin with? I've got to go now; I have a date with a tall blond Dutch woman. HA!
 adventurejoe70
Joined: 3/1/2013
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Posted: 7/16/2015 7:31:57 AM

Not all women who pay for their own meals are shallow- in fact, most are anything but shallow.


I think he meant you guys call them shallow because they won't date or meet you, especially if you insist on going Dutch.


The entire filet of cod cost me $5.40, the carrots were $1.25 for the bag, and the rice was about $3 for the box that there's still a lot of rice in. Total cost of a meal for 2: $9.65.


Actually, who would have thought a place called Tuckerton is that expensive. For 5.50 I can get a lb of Salmon, 70 cent for a lb of carrots and 2 lbs of rice for 1 buck. That means 7.20 for 3 meals of food (perhaps 4). But outside entertainment generally will cost more than inside entertainment. No one disputes that!

On that note, realize the women might be cooking for their men a few times a week . So is it really that horrible for them to expect an off day in appreciation where they get taken out?


Who says we can't get a meet to begin with?


Not necessarily you, but certain whiners about equal paying of meals have also had posts whining about how they need to harass women for not answering initial messages. Apparently they don't think no reply is a reply. :P
 dragonbytes
Joined: 12/25/2014
Msg: 587
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 7/16/2015 8:07:09 AM

Abelian, former moderator and physicist, always advised men to pay for sex if they had to in order to not be desperate. We had some interesting offline conversations on that subject, and others. And I did some investigating (gotta love google). The going rate for a 10, here in Houston, is about $250. If you go someplace like the Remington (very upscale place), the working girls go for $500. I know, I was there recently, and was propositioned. And no, I declined, I have all I can handle and then some right now. Very happy camper, thank you.

Anyway, back on topic. Going rate, $250. So 2 tanks of gas and 4 dinners. Hmmm. For my car, 2 tanks of gas is about $100. That would leave the 4 dinners at $150 / 4 == $42.50 each? Fairly cheap dinners. That might get you the Olive Garden, and no wine, or a really cheap wine and very low tip. CT, I thought you said dinners were expensive on the coast?


Fifty ($50) is about the top end of what I pay for dinner tor two when dating. (I don't order wine.) Generally an American Thai restaurant or trendy pizza place like Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder when I am getting to know someone.

I spend both less and more money in a relationship. Typically I don't want to spend over $30 for two, more like $20, but I do rarely spend up to $150.00 on dinner. It helps that my wife never drinks alcohol, so the most I have is a beer or two.

However in the past I would spend a lot more on relationship dinners, but never a large amount on a getting to know someone date. I tend to say dating for every relationship that isn't cohabitating, the time spent before sex is more like an extended meet and greet. But it would be confusing to write that way.

In the past when under 45 I had been to over 1,000 restaurants, some very high end. The most I paid was $800 for Christmas Dinner for two at Schloss Moenchstein overlooking Salzburg Austria. Tuxedo, 8 course dinner with selection of wine. Before dinner we had eggnog outside and they assembled children from town to sing Christmas Carols. It was all over the top.

I guess I feel like, been there done that and I don't want to spend a lot of money on food.

Hookers are a whole different subject, I wonder if hookers have ever provided an over the top sexual experience? My feeling is they tend to provide poor service regardless of how they look. If the sex really was great, I would have been willing to pay up to $200, but for an all night experience. But I have limited experience with hookers, my guess is they are more wham, bang, see ya later sorts of encounters. I wouldn't pay anything for that.

Another problem with hookers, if you get into a relationship with them, it's hard to come to terms with her work history. As pig said in one post: "Dressing this scenario up in flowery language really doesn't make it romantic at all, and it is actually possible for others to have the same experiences you're having *without* being jerked around at the very start of it all.".

I do know a small number of men that did start out screwing a hooker only to eventually marry them. Sometimes it works out, but I think I am too old fashioned to be able to make that work.
 dragonbytes
Joined: 12/25/2014
Msg: 588
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 7/16/2015 8:18:29 AM

Actually, who would have thought a place called Tuckerton is that expensive. For 5.50 I can get a lb of Salmon, 70 cent for a lb of carrots and 2 lbs of rice for 1 buck. That means 7.20 for 3 meals of food (perhaps 4). But outside entertainment generally will cost more than inside entertainment. No one disputes that!


Interesting, I usually buy salmon at $4.00 a lbs and 25 lbs of rice at ~10.00. (50 lbs of popcorn, $22.00.). Sometimes I go as high as $5, but I have two refrigerators and one small freezer, so stocking up is typical.

When I eat out, I tend to go for foods I can't cook at home as well as the restaurant. Pizza, Italian Beef, gyro, Indian food, etc, or a lot of variety like a buffet or eating when you don't have time to cook, then like Subway / Panda Express.

Most restaurant food I can cook better at home, it just takes longer, or my wife cooks the Thai type dishes.

As you likely know, in Thailand a lot of expats don't even have a kitchen, eating out every day is the norm.
 InnerGorilla
Joined: 4/1/2014
Msg: 589
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 7/16/2015 8:26:10 AM

Hookers are a whole different subject, I wonder if hookers have ever provided an over the top sexual experience? My feeling is they tend to provide poor service regardless of how they look.


I have to dwell on this question. First of all, I've never been with a hooker. But I have thought about what the sexual experience may be. Part of what turns me on, it's not having the girl get me off, but getting the girl off. Does that mean that each orgasm the hooker has is real? Or is it fake? How do I know?

So no. I prefer putting my money on something that provides a challenge. It's like betting on a game that you know is rigged, it's not fun. I prefer the challenge of discovery, of conquest, of her desiring me, me desiring her. And then there's an awesome and different reward, where the hooker does cannot compete. What you invest in those dinners, are more like the stock market. If you want to look at it that way. For eventually, she comes over to your place or you to her place, and it's not dinner buying anything, but simply she wants to eat you, and you want to eat her. Total cost, a bottle of wine, or even simply some strawberries and a couple of candles. And she wants more, and more, and more, and more.
So, it's like buying Apple at 2 dollars and looking at what you got now.
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
Msg: 590
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 7/16/2015 8:31:24 AM
You ain't paying 'em for sex, you're paying 'em to leave...
 BelleAtlantic
Joined: 11/7/2012
Msg: 591
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 7/16/2015 9:06:08 AM

Hookers are a whole different subject, I wonder if hookers have ever provided an over the top sexual experience? My feeling is they tend to provide poor service regardless of how they look.


Depends......

The premise is that you are paying to have sex with whom you choose (of the prostitutes available), they set the rate for what you request, and set their rules. It is no different from the sex you would have with someone you are not paying, other than you can't make demands, and she can still let you know what her limitations are.

If you go to an agency for such (disguised as escorting), you are still choosing to have sex with someone of your choosing for the going rate, and you describe what you want done, and she can take it or leave it.

Sex is already "better" because you're choosing whom you want it from. As for the quality of such sex, you have to poke around and see which prostitute of them all gives you more "bang" for your buck. They may be able to get you "off" sooner if they are interested in pulling out the theatrics, because that allows them to go on to the next person, unless you are paying for a specific amount of time.

Sort of like watching porn, you develop a taste for your favorite, even when porn is all the same. I remember watching porn and there was this gorgeous woman, but once she started moaning or whatever, it sounded like she was barking like a dog, I couldn't stand it. I couldn't stand to see her in any scene.

Wouldn't you just hate to pay for sex and discover you don't like something about her, like her spine comes out too much when riding backwards, you don't like the way her a$$hole looks or it's color, she has dimples on her back, the veins on her hands or feet stick out a bit much, etc........................bummer, lmao.
 antirepublican
Joined: 12/31/2014
Msg: 592
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 7/16/2015 9:20:47 AM

So no. I prefer putting my money on something that provides a challenge. It's like betting on a game that you know is rigged, it's not fun. I prefer the challenge of discovery, of conquest, of her desiring me, me desiring her. And then there's an awesome and different reward, where the hooker does cannot compete.


On the challenge part... where is it? I don't know you but I suspect that with you it is practically automatic. I doubt that it any challenge for you at all. Whenever you ask for a phone number, you know that it is a forgone conclusion.

On getting the girl off, I can take your word for it. Heard it before from other guys. I don't fully understand it because I don't value it. I couldn't care less if she gets off. So a hooker will do. I am curious though... What do you do when you are just keyed up? Do you still need her to get off or is a quick squirt enough?
 adventurejoe70
Joined: 3/1/2013
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Posted: 7/16/2015 9:25:31 AM

As you likely know, in Thailand a lot of expats don't even have a kitchen, eating out every day is the norm.


True, true..I had a one of those camping stove tops and microwave but street food is actually cheaper than cooking! Western places were a rip off but in Chiang Mai I remember an expat bar that had a decent all you can eat BBQ weekly with steak, burgers and shrimp.

I rarely did a food venue when I dated, but I also didn't sweat it either. If I did a walking date for example in my neighborhood, and the gal got hungry, I would just get her sushi. Because of all the Eastern Euro's here, my area was listed as the capital of cheap Sushi. It cost not much more than a slice of Pizza. It cost 3-3.5 dollars for a meal of Salmon Avocado rolls, and these gals do everything to make it look like they don't eat much, so it is MORE than enough.

I never considered meetings real dates, but for a 1st real date, I would walk around and take a gal to NYC's best pizza joint( near my house), which might in turn be the worlds best pizza since NYC is rated highly for pizza. At 5 dollars a slice and a around the corner line, these types of dates are somewhat special.

The girl will remember waiting on a long line (soup Nazi) to get the best pizza slice she ever had from a place that Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez and the Mayor orders from. Total date 15 bucks!

Or 5 dollar admission( heard they may have raised it though)) to the famous Copacabana club for dancing, a free Salsa lesson and free buffet on after work Tuesdays. Total bill: 15 dollars to see her dress to impress.

Or free walks on the boardwalk, along the bay, in the big park!

Dating doesn't have to be expensive. I find it odd men choose expensive places to go, and then complain that gal doesn't pay. I would hate hanging with a friend that drives me somewhere expensive and then makes me pay.

I think guys would be much more productive to just CONTROL the evening, and make sure it costs reasonable. As long as the women doesn't cross the lines that the man, as the host, has created, I don't see the problem. A man who can't lead the evening has much bigger problems to worry about than ****ing about a women going Dutch imho.

As for worrying about expense sharing in the future, in my experience, once one hooks the fish, it isn't a problem. Most women in love/infatuated are very generous and giving. :) Sometimes I even feel guilty, but then I don't!


@Dragon- Yes a big bag of rice can cost 9 bucks, but I was basing on a small bag to fit Rockingtruckers scenario. I should also add that I mostly eat brown rice.

But 4 dollar Salmon? That is cheap. Here in NYC, it usually is over$ 8 a lb in supermarkets, but a few blocks from me is a designated China town (Bklyn has 3) and the Asian markets sell fish cheap. Therefore, 5.50 a lb is probably the cheapest here. Catfish is 2.99 a lb though! I don't eat it!
 GenericIrony
Joined: 6/6/2015
Msg: 594
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Posted: 7/16/2015 10:32:33 AM
Who ever invited the other to go out. Eample, If a man was broke and didnt want to go out because of the lack of money, if his lady friend wants to go out, she should pay... The guy wasnt ignoring her, he just didnt have the means at that time. Vice Versa, the man should pay if this was reversed.
 ThePig0fYourDreams
Joined: 2/2/2015
Msg: 595
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Posted: 7/16/2015 10:36:42 AM

Wouldn't you just hate to pay for sex and discover you don't like something about her, like her spine comes out too much when riding backwards, you don't like the way her a$$hole looks or it's color, she has dimples on her back, the veins on her hands or feet stick out a bit much, etc........................bummer, lmao.


Yeah, a "user review" of some sort would come in handy here, eh?
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 596
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Posted: 7/16/2015 10:40:10 AM

You ain't paying 'em for sex, you're paying 'em to leave...

What if they were leaving anyway - or even worse, you couldn't get them to show up in the first place? Hm. That'd be a waste of money.
 adventurejoe70
Joined: 3/1/2013
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Posted: 7/16/2015 11:28:34 AM

Yeah, a "user review" of some sort would come in handy here, eh?


LOL.....yeah that make her more attractive, thinking about all the guys she fracks!



What if they were leaving anyway - or even worse, you couldn't get them to show up in the first place? Hm. That'd be a waste of money.


I see, so they should only be paid if they actually leave!

"My wife met me at the door the other night in a sexy negligee. Unfortunately, she was just coming home."
 ThePig0fYourDreams
Joined: 2/2/2015
Msg: 598
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Posted: 7/16/2015 12:02:31 PM


LOL.....yeah that make her more attractive, thinking about all the guys she fracks!


haha, yes. It's funny how the human mind works at times. A guy *knows* the hooker is having sex with countless other guys, but seeing reviews would make the reality of it all sink in a bit deeper. It would still be a hilarious concept, though.

"I have mixed feelings about my experience with Olivia. Overall, it was satisfying, but there were a few issues here and there. For example, when she removed her shirt, her breasts didn't quite resemble the basketballs I had envisioned when she had her shirt on. They were more like the plastic egg containers for panty hose. Her moans also sounded like Barry White suffering from constipation. If it had not been for these two minor problems, I would have rated my time with her an enthusiastic five stars, but I'm going with a solid four."
 BelleAtlantic
Joined: 11/7/2012
Msg: 599
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Posted: 7/16/2015 12:30:11 PM

haha, yes. It's funny how the human mind works at times. A guy *knows* the hooker is having sex with countless other guys, but seeing reviews would make the reality of it all sink in a bit deeper. It would still be a hilarious concept, though.


You just reminded me of the Amazon Prime disaster. Yeah there were good sales, just not on items people wanted, lmao.

You were very generous with your review, lmao.
 InnerGorilla
Joined: 4/1/2014
Msg: 600
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Posted: 7/16/2015 2:10:02 PM

On the challenge part... where is it? I don't know you but I suspect that with you it is practically automatic. I doubt that it any challenge for you at all. Whenever you ask for a phone number, you know that it is a forgone conclusion.


What do you mean by this?

Of course there's a challenge when you go in a date. You don't know where it's going to go. And for instance on first dates, it's not necessarily about the sex yet. So they can easily go south, or simply realize that the girl was way too different that what you wanted.
 sundress1
Joined: 7/7/2015
Msg: 601
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Posted: 7/16/2015 7:59:34 PM

But to ask a woman out and then tell her you expect her to pay half reeks of being a full fledged card carrying member of team cheap ***tard. Good luck to ya.


This wouldn't bother me. Unless 80-90% of the bill is his and he asked me to split 50-50.
 sealady111
Joined: 5/31/2015
Msg: 602
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Posted: 7/16/2015 8:02:00 PM
A woman should pay if she gets value for money.

(Sorry could not resist.)




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 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 7/16/2015 11:56:08 PM

They are using vernacular that is VERY vague. The gals say "cool , lets hang out". They make everything look platonic, and of course their results are a bit platonic often as well. :P The gals ask them in those vague terms as well.

Two things about this you hit up on:

(1) Just because a guy asks if the gal wants to go out does not mean he's asking to Take Her Out. Especially in today's day and age (it doesn't take a newer generation). Many times it's a girl who brings up the notion of going out. Does that mean she's asking to Take Him Out? No. Let's just call a spade a spade when it comes to gals who Expect a guy to basically Always pay -- it's not about who's bringing up the notion of going out. I would have had much worse results if I was sitting at the table when the bill comes and motioning/expecting her to pay, or did a fake "Oh, would you like me to play my half?" move just because she was the initiator about going out some time. Girls bringing up the notion is not rare at all, as you point out.

(2) What you describe there has the taste of the "Friends First" game, or an implied tone of that. IMO, if a female wants to go the friends/platonic route, she shouldn't be ticked by any degree if the guy's motioning things as if they're splitting it or doing the "Here, I'll get this, you can buy the drinks when we get to the tavern." I say "shouldn't", but from the guy perspective, still expect to financially support her (unless you're not into her) on it. I would say in those situations though, you should be more easily accepting of the girl's (half-real) offer to contribute if at that point there still is that platonic tone... but unfortunately most gals will at Least prefer if not expect him to pay as that's "just how things are" (which stems from back in the day where women didn't hardly work or so viewed as so self-supportive human beings).

TBH the majority of Euro countries that even come close to the American system are Eastern Euro and Southern Euro countries. Countries I should add that are mainly anti feminist and patriarchies.

Isn't that because the culture's more religious-traditionalist compared to the ones that aren't? My guess would be that countries that have more religious roots in its tradition and that tradition is thru every day society (not just old people) -- you'll find more 'conservative values' -- thus, yeah, the dude's Expected to be paying. Helped of course by more religious-traditional roots existing thru society, less business-career/independent women. Much the same as going from Chicago, then down to southern Illinois and seeing that difference.

Most women that I went out with offered to pay for at least some portion of the date.

Yeah, that happens a lot, but unless something about her otherwise sticks out -- it's very likely it's a faux offer anyway. Just like you Wanting to give an offer by itself, she'll be Wanting you to deny it. Kind of like when a friend mentions he's moving and the other friend throws it out there "Well, if you need any help, let me know...," and that moving friend says "Great! I sure could. You said you had Saturday during the day free -- can you come by around 11am and help me pack?" The other friend many times will be "Ugggh". But I'd say to that other friend "Dude, don't say that if you don't mean it!"

Hence, don't make an offer if you don't mean it. I don't get ticked if a gal doesn't offer to pay because of that -- unless I know the date is Shot. That's when I think the gal should offer to pay, and shouldn't be ticked if he agrees to it (unless he Actually asked To Take her out in the first place).
 south_city
Joined: 10/12/2013
Msg: 604
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Posted: 7/17/2015 6:53:13 AM

Yeah, that happens a lot, but unless something about her otherwise sticks out -- it's very likely it's a faux offer anyway. Just like you Wanting to give an offer by itself, she'll be Wanting you to deny it.


Possible. But some women did pay for at least some portion of the date ( tip, dessert / beverage etc ) and we went out on another date. Besides if a woman didn't want to go out on another date just because I accepted her offer, then we simply weren't a match.
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
Msg: 605
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Posted: 7/17/2015 8:45:50 AM
Well...I did get an ice cream cone after a few dinners.

My faux logic was thinking that I GOT sex too.

Well, so did she, right?
 Tondala01
Joined: 8/2/2014
Msg: 606
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Posted: 7/17/2015 4:06:39 PM
I agree with the post above me..
 rockin-trucker82
Joined: 1/4/2014
Msg: 607
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Posted: 7/17/2015 7:48:24 PM

R/T, and a few others could only hope.


I know I shouldn't bother, but...

Multiple times in these threads, I've said that I will happily treat my girlfriend out. I don't care if she ever pays when we go out, just as long as it's appreciated and doesn't just become an expectation.

Some random first date, that's not my girlfriend. There's no guarantee that I'm ever going to see this person again, or even get a phone call answered.

But if you want to blow money on a complete stranger that never talks to you again, go for it. Some of us have to work for a living, and first dates add up over time. Maybe if people weren't so disposable today, things might be different. But how many girls should I treat out to never see again? Out of the 2 of us, am I REALLY the only one who doesn't look at that as being completely stupid? If you're going to blow that money on someone who's never going to talk to you, put it to good use... donate it to a charity or something. It's better than buying some flake dinner.

So again.... Steady girlfriend = she don't have to pay for anything
Girl I don't even know = about 20 first and only dates before you ruined the chance of a free meal for you.

But also, something else I've explained before, none of this means that I won't treat someone I'm meeting for the first time. I've been out with girls, saw that it was obvious that it wasn't going anywhere, and I still paid for them. We hung out, BSed a little, and went our separate ways. The difference though, they weren't buried in their phone when I wasn't what they imagined me to be, they weren't already planning their next date, or talking about it. They didn't "have to go to the bathroom" and vanish, they were actually part of a conversation that while they didn't want to date me, they still enjoyed talking, because that's what people do. Funny what treating people like an actual person does to decisions they make on stuff like this.

But when you're obviously going to fall into a black hole on your way home from work and end up on some other planet, completely incapable of returning a text or answering a phone call and just saying that there was nothing there, and it gets pretty easy to see that coming after a few times, you all use the same exact lines, why do you deserve a free night out when you're going to do that? Would you pay for you? If we were out and some blonde walked past and I started blatantly obviously hitting on her, would you pay for me? What if you were the only one on your conversation? What if my uncle's, cousin's, neighbor's, brother's, 7th grade english teacher's plumber had a second job on that boardwalk and I can't be seen walking too close to a girl or else my father will find out and he'll be mad, even though I'm over 30 (yeah, nobody believes you that your parents are going to have a problem with your adult ass dating)... Would I be paid for that night? Yet these are always the same girls that when the check comes, they just completely ignore it. They're not going to have any part of paying for it.
 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:09:00 AM

But if you want to blow money on a complete stranger that never talks to you again, go for it.

Well, I think it's more like "If you want to blow money on a date with a gal who's not a complete stranger, with a decent % chance you won't score anything beyond a 2nd or 3rd date with her, go for it." Still, something to take into consideration and ponder, but not the same or as bad. :) In most situations, they're not a complete stranger (an true Blind date), nor would it be common that you know she'd never talk to you again as early as the bill coming.

I've been out with girls, saw that it was obvious that it wasn't going anywhere, and I still paid for them. We hung out, BSed a little, and went our separate ways.

Interesting... so, basically "If you want to blow money on a complete stranger that never talks to you again, go for it -- I know I do!" ? ;)

The difference though, they weren't buried in their phone when I wasn't what they imagined me to be, they weren't already planning their next date, or talking about it. They didn't "have to go to the bathroom" and vanish, they were actually part of a conversation that while they didn't want to date me, they still enjoyed talking, because that's what people do.

Okay -- so as long as they're cordial, civil, and act cool -- go ahead and blow money on a complete stranger that never talks to you again. So all that's required is being civil and stuff. Okay...

So again.... Steady girlfriend = she don't have to pay for anything

But also Civil, Cool, Conversational, Cordial girl on 1st date = she don't have to pay for anything

I'm not trying to be argumentative, just querying where the lines are really drawn. I totally agree that if a gal on a 1st date that you don't know is being clearly rude in her actions & ways about her, non-conversational, etc -- yeah, you shouldn't financially support her on the bill if there was no promise to do so in the first place. I don't think that's a controversial stance in society.

IMO, the controversy is a popular stance that if a guy goes out on a date with a gal, automatically it translates the same as a guy chasing a gal down, convincing her to give him a chance to court her and garner her interest -- and that her acceptance to go out on a date with him, in and of itself, is a fair exchange of him paying her way. A sort of "You have to pay to ride this ride -- the ride being out on a date with me, even though I'm no movie star or anything. It's just how the cookie crumbles. You're a guy, I'm a girl. You're expected to pay to ride the ride, and when you do, it'll be appreciated."
 south_city
Joined: 10/12/2013
Msg: 609
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Posted: 7/18/2015 7:38:58 AM

Possible. But some women did pay for at least some portion of the date ( tip, dessert / beverage etc ) and we went out on another date. Besides if a woman didn't want to go out on another date just because I accepted her offer, then we simply weren't a match.


I will also add that some women want to split the bill in order to "prove their financial independence" or they genuinely feel that splitting the bill is the right thing to do. One woman brought this up before our first date / meeting. She mentioned that she prefers to split the bill. She also mentioned most of her friends agreed with her.
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