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 adventurejoe70
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I posted earlier in this thread about a man who simply would NOT let me pay for anything and got an expensive hotel room for us without actually asking me first if I wanted to spend the night with him. The dates and the unused room probably set him back close to 600 bucks by the fourth date ( the ONLY thing I managed to pay for was movie tickets because I beat him to the ticket machine)...but anyway...he was DUTCH! LOL.

I think he might have been aware that Dutch people have a rep for being cheap, and he was determined to prove otherwise.


Honestly, as stereotypes go, if you believe those things, I knew that about Germans, not about the Dutch. I guess that explains why they make their women stand half dress in windows. Ok, I don't really think that is the reason they are in the windows. I was attempting to play naive for once! :)



I posted earlier in this thread about a man who simply would NOT let me pay for anything and got an expensive hotel room for us without actually asking me first if I wanted to spend the night with him. The dates and the unused room probably set him back close to 600 bucks by the fourth date


4th date ? as in 30 days perhaps? Well, I can imagine some guys expect it by the 4th date because of the 30 day rule many women seem to have (I married a 30 day'er but didn't actually try earlier so I could have perhaps had 14 day'er). I would set my logistics a bit better though so a hotel wouldn't have to be used. That doesn't sound romantic to me at all. But I can see it from his side .

Sadly, if the logistics were away from my pad and I was stuck in Manhattan I would try to get her up to my fathers flat( empty 8 months of the yr), which happens to be in a Hotel. So you could only imagine some of the explaining I have had to do in the past :(.

Her: where are we going?
me: to my other apt, ("I want to show you something" or something else cheesy)
her: but that is a fracking hotel.
me: no it is my apt.
her: you paid for the hotel you planned this ? You scoundrel! (walks away angry)
me: NO wait, really it is my apt, my last name is on the door.

Lesson:hotels are mostly romantic when on vacation!
 Ladyinred4755
Joined: 1/30/2012
Msg: 686
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Posted: 7/23/2015 12:57:36 PM
CrookCatcher, I highly suspect, you were raised with similar values to my Bf, and near the same age.


But after reading so much here I'm almost certain that all this drama over who pays is a generational thing more than anything else. I choose to pay for my dates if I ask a woman out because that's the way I was raised and one of the values I was taught.


LOL, I have brought this up before here in the Forums, and yes, I caught a little flack for it, but it was and has been my experience that men near my age PREFER to pay for a date.
When a woman here, stated "He won't allow it'", meaning her date will/would not accept money/payment from her to cover the cost of a date,/dinner, I knew exactly what she meant, by this remark.
My BF has indicated, verbally as well as in facial expressions, that HE will pay for dinner, the movie, etc. I HAVE offered to pay/chip in. He was offended, so I no longer make the offer.
LOL, NOW he will let me pay for a motel room when visiting out of town family. I have paid for events we will participate in, when registering on-line. We have shared in buying groceries. And he no longer needs to pay the barber to cut/trim his hair.
No one feels a sense of entitlement or resentment. We don't feel "Used".
 newoldgirl
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 687
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Posted: 7/23/2015 1:30:37 PM

4th date ? as in 30 days perhaps? Well, I can imagine some guys expect it by the 4th date because of the 30 day rule many women seem to have (I married a 30 day'er but didn't actually try earlier so I could have perhaps had 14 day'er). I would set my logistics a bit better though so a hotel wouldn't have to be used. That doesn't sound romantic to me at all. But I can see it from his side .


The fist three dates were typical-- It was the $450 hotel room that was his big cost, and very dumb on his part.

First date- just coffee
Second date-- pizza and and a movie
Third date- nice-ish dinner in restaurant. Followed by make out session, but him saying he had to get up at 5 am, next day.

Fourth date---another dinner and the casino ( middle of winter BTW, a bit limiting sometimes) on a weekend night. Promising...

I was into him, and DTF, but sadly monthly visitor arrived that day. What I thought would happen was after dinner, he would invite me back to his place for sex and I would say no, and tell him why.

But no...due to a texting misunderstanding ( completely his fault, he later admitted when re-reading the texts) he goes and gets an expensive hotel room ( high floor, overlooking the falls, fancy hotel) without asking me. Hence, lots of money spent.

The following weekend when we were able to get down, he got another very expensive room, flowers, dinner, the whole bit. As I said, though, I don't think he would have kept doing that over time..LOL.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 7/23/2015 1:34:52 PM

^^^You keep arguing the risks you take when you date. That assumes dating has to happen. It does not.

It's about the concept when going out on a date that happens... And yes, there's risks, as you well know. Some risks are easy to avoid ("OMG, and she was a dude! I didn't look at the pictures closely, I just like to get a date out of the way..."), others are not.

Also, I'm not talking about one random incident of someone doing something - I'm talking about a string of incidents that are all the same.

But they're not ALL the same, though. Even though one could go on a run where too many of X happens, and one gets the impression that X happens way more often than it does. Anyway...

Complaining is annoying and not effective to preventing it from happening again.

And here's my point: It's THE FORUMS. That's what it's for. It's not about complaining on the date itself. If you don't like the complaining about X/Y/Z in dating situations, just don't deal with said threads! :)

If they don't change it they can't be that upset about it, and in that case why tell us about it?

There are some things one can't change much, hence, yeah -- its the way the wind blows with guys too often doing X, and gals too often doing Y. It doesn't mean "Never have a discussion about the flaws of them, why they exist, getting insight from guys who do X and why they do it, and gals who do Y and why they do it," etc. Sorry, if ya don't like hearing about it, then don't listen to it... :)

If You have a recommended plan on how one can prevent it without cutting into the rewards/cutbacks ratio, great! That's a relevant but side-discussion, while the discussion at hand about who should be expected to pay and when , which is what the main topic's about. No need to get mad at the main topic. :)

"we will straighten it all out later", I am waiting for NG to analyze that!

Yep. Pop the Viagra -- make sure you're straight as an arrow to straighten her out ;) On a more serious note -- as pointed out by WIP -- if you're too upset about it, you're going to be too upset about it (as she urges to stop talking about it and just announce it to avoid it). I'm saying that especially if you hit it off with the date, you have good reason not to be so upset about it. She may have the mentality that it's not about a guy asking to take a gal out, but more like 1st-date stuff, and she could be contributing on later dates. Especially if you hit it off, you should have a good Feel for how she'd roll in that direction anyway. Don't ruin the chances of "warm apple pie" because you're covering her bill. If the costs effect ya, make sure you hit a casual inexpensive joint -- not a ritzy expensive place, as common-sense.

Now, if you're weary about her underneath even though things are going well, and she doesn't flinch when the bill comes or gives out a easy-to-read Fake offer -- hit her up on it to some extent -- say, "Here, I'll get the bill, you get the tip -- maybe you could could get a beer sometime or something," non-chalantly. If she's taken aback by that, well, that's good. You wouldn't want a faux "hitting it off" scenario anyway if that gets to ya too much.
 Whatsamatterbaby
Joined: 5/6/2015
Msg: 689
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Posted: 7/23/2015 6:12:23 PM
Clooney: If you don't mind my asking, what WOULD be an appropriate topic of conversation on a date, in your opinion?
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
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Posted: 7/23/2015 6:29:03 PM
Anything sexual is fine and nothing financial!

Seriously?

Anything that helps build chemistry. This means avoiding polarizing topics (i.e. gun control, abortion, etc.) and no talking about exes...

I try to keep it light and funny. We both should be smiling. No grimaces!

I enjoy chatting about pet peeves and common vices. Common interests help, but are over rated.

Single living is fun to laugh about too. How many categories of laundry do you have?

Current events? Tricky. It's usually bad news and I try to veer away from that.

Dating horror stories? Sticky area. 50/50. Some are sensitive and you can get yourself into a Mars/Venus lock up...

I don't mind and expect to discuss how long we've been divorced and that we're both employed.

Now..this where many Mars/Venus collisions occur.

Venus may want to determine compatibility first. This where Mars needs to have his dancing shoes ready!

Ducking my head....
 NJgirl116
Joined: 7/3/2015
Msg: 691
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Posted: 7/23/2015 8:45:47 PM

I used to bring flowers (or at least a single flower) to a date. But if we were meeting somewhere, rather than picking her up at home, then the flower became something that she had to deal with all through the evening.

It could be a cultural thing. My dates were from other countries (non-American). Being opposed to flowers as a woman sounds very strange to me. It was always a nice guy! I have tried to reciprocate on dates. Many of my dates were in Manhattan, so while he paid, I drove to the city and paid for the toll. I've given my dates rides if it was cold... Things don't have to be one-sided, each can show appreciation in some way.
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
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Posted: 7/24/2015 12:50:05 AM
Flowers are tricky.

SOME women view them as incentives or rewards, rather then nice gestures.

I've had flowers delivered to a dinner table on a 1st date when I started dating.

Poor girl looked like I was gonna propose to her :(

Where do you put them? In the trunk?

I had a great time with you Linda, please walk with me to my trunk. I have something to show you...

After intimacy seems more appropriate, but I always find out her favorite flower first. YMMV
 rockin-trucker82
Joined: 1/4/2014
Msg: 693
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Posted: 7/24/2015 9:59:23 AM

I don't know many people who can make a home cooked meal for 2 for $10.00


What's so hard about it? I have 3 chicken breasts in my fridge, it cost $4.45. A bag of any frozen vegetable is about $1. Rice or mashed potatoes for a side is a couple dollars for a huge box. So assuming about 1/4 of the box for the average American serving... That's only about 6.45 for dinner. Throw in another $.40 for a lemon for the chicken. I'm sure you have salt and pepper. Everyone has olive or vegetable oil or butter you can mix with the vegetable. 1 meal is pretty cheap if you only buy what you need.

If it costs you more than $10 to make a meal for 2 people, assuming you're not buying seafood or steak, you're just bad at shopping.


NOBODY OWES YOU A REJECTION NOTICE, EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Something I've never once said anyone owes me.

Do you, and the people who think like you, ever think that maybe the reason you're so single is because of your inability to function in a social setting? Would you just blow off your mother? What about your kid? What's so magically different about someone you met on a website? Are they somehow less human? Your problem is that everything is "ME." And you really couldn't care less how any other people might feel about the things that a lot of you say and do. According to these forums, We're just supposed to sit back and take insult after insult, if we're stood up, it's the woman's right to just completely blow you off, leaving you sitting somewhere waiting for her. But it's OK, because it's a woman, and they can't do any wrong. No, nobody owes anyone a rejection. But I'm a firm believer in take responsibility for what you do. If you stand a guy up and he tells you off, too bad, maybe next time you'll take that 20 seconds out of your precious time to save 30 minutes of his. But, again, I forgot, women on POF can't be bad people, otherwise, how do we blame the men?

Or the basic response to the first message thing. No response is no response. It means NOTHING. It's the lack of a rejection. Which on multiple occasions, I said that's fine. But expecting the other person to be a mind reader and know that you actually opened that message, looked at his profile, and made the decision not to answer him, is stupid. On these sites, I've had way more than enough replies weeks or months later to know that it happens. Sometimes you mean to reply to someone but forget. Sometimes you miss an unread message in your inbox. Now, I'm not condoning harassing the other person, but there's no harm at all in a followup message to be sure. This is why the socially competent among us prefer to use our words. When you actually say what's on your mind, there's no more room for confusion. I'm not saying you have to, I'm just saying that not everyone is going to know what your silence meant. And sometimes when there's plans, a simple "I changed my mind" is infinitely easier than just hide from his call and text making sure you're still on for that night. But again, men's time means nothing, it's all about you, and you're so afraid of confrontation that you're going to have a huge kick in the ass once you're finally dating and you get into your first fight. I got bad news for you, hiding from your boyfriend doesn't solve the problem, it only introduces a 2nd girl.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/18/2015
Msg: 694
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:38:46 AM
whoops...duplicate
 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/18/2015
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:41:36 AM

Flowers are tricky.


I met a date at a restaurant, and after he told me all the reasons he couldn't
see me again.
1. He had to drive on the highway to get to me. He's NEVER driving on a
highway again.
2. He loved his truck and I drove a bug.
3. He liked everything he owned to be perfect...like his truck. I was really
nice, but I wasn't perfect.
4. He was really too busy writing his book about all the islands in Maine
he was discovering while paddling his canoe.

I think there were a few more, but I've forgotten them. He literally gave me
the list in the parking lot. Then he went to his truck and got a begonia plant
out of the back for me. He had a bunch of them in pots back there. I didn't
know if they were for future dates or he just decided to give me one as a
booby prize.

Anyways, I put the plant on the roof of my car while I tossed my purse
in there and then drove off with it still there.

A few months later he sent me a message asking me how I was doing
and offered me a discount on his self published book.

I forgot to say these were islands HE was discovering...and naming.
When I asked if they hadn't already been discovered, he looked at me like
I was daft.
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
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Posted: 7/24/2015 10:56:17 AM


4. He was really too busy writing his book about all the islands in Maine
he was discovering while paddling his canoe.


Damn. Your experience would be good fodder for a cheesy indie flick. Bizarre!

I give the guy some credit.

He created a life for himself...only. I'm not quite there, yet.

One day, when a gal asks what I do for a living?

I'm gonna tell her that I create drivers for keyboards and printers , but I love what I do and I'm passionate about it!
 rockin-trucker82
Joined: 1/4/2014
Msg: 697
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Posted: 7/24/2015 11:09:29 AM
I told one that I drive the big truck in front of her that makes her late for work. She took it literally and started yelling at me.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/18/2015
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Posted: 7/24/2015 11:29:36 AM

I told one that I drive the big truck in front of her that makes her late for work. She took it literally and started yelling at me.


Yeah, but sometimes they're construction trucks and they say CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE DO NOT FOLLOW on
the back and I just get off at the next exit and go home.

I wish...hahahaha!
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 699
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Posted: 7/24/2015 12:12:51 PM

On these sites, I've had way more than enough replies weeks or months later to know that it happens
,

I'm going to have to call BS on this statement. Complete load of fabricated, unadulterated nonsense.

Doesn't matter if your message is deleted unread, read deleted or just left sitting in the inbox till the end of days. She's telling you that she doesn't care in anyway that you've sent a message. It's rejection plain and simple, deal with it and stop with the "oh look how rude and superficial she is because she doesn't acknowledge my existence" campaign. You're coming across as a whining cry baby with a case of chapped ass.
 Whatsamatterbaby
Joined: 5/6/2015
Msg: 700
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Posted: 7/24/2015 12:35:26 PM
Rocking Trucker (I'm not jumping on the down with Rocking Trucker band wagon, just need to point something out):

The dinner you describe is not something I would feed someone I'd invited for dinner - I'm not sure anyone would offer that to a date? I'm guessing the average meal a person would prepare for a date would cost at least around $60, without the wine (which, granted, the date usually offers to bring.) What you've described would be like someone offering to take you for dinner and then taking you to a fast food outlet.

It just rots my socks to think that a man might think preparing a proper meal could be that cheap or easy.
 antirepublican
Joined: 12/31/2014
Msg: 701
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Posted: 7/24/2015 1:03:17 PM


It just rots my socks to think that a man might think preparing a proper meal could be that cheap or easy.


Sure no problem:

1 box KD $1.50
1/2 stick butter $0.50
1 cup milk $0.25

1 envelope Kool-Aid $0.25

Romantic dinner for two for $2.50 Prep time @15 min
 Peas_
Joined: 5/2/2015
Msg: 702
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Posted: 7/24/2015 1:28:34 PM

Flowers are tricky.

SOME women view them as incentives or rewards, rather then nice gestures.

I've had flowers delivered to a dinner table on a 1st date when I started dating.

Poor girl looked like I was gonna propose to her :(

Where do you put them? In the trunk?

I had a great time with you Linda, please walk with me to my trunk. I have something to show you...

After intimacy seems more appropriate, but I always find out her favorite flower first. YMMV


CC's ears perked up on that one. I don't think I'd accompany a man to his trunk, just saying...hopefully you passed the circuit court record search.

I don't have a real favorite flower, I love all kinds, maybe a preference for a perfumed one. That would probably be a rose then (note, not all tea roses have a fragrance).

I'm even happy when I've picked my own flowers, although it's not as nice as getting them as a gesture from a man who is courting me.
 JoeBnD
Joined: 3/23/2012
Msg: 703
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Posted: 7/24/2015 1:34:01 PM
I just made Manicotti that we will have for my son's and my dinner tonight (plus 3 additional single servings of two each for the freezer). I don't have the exact amounts, but the total for all 5 servings couldn't have been over $30. Throw in some asparagus on the side and you have a nice dinner (without wine as I rarely ever drink any) for probably $7.50 each. And you would rave about it as everyone that I made it for at Christmas praised me for how great it was.
 Whatsamatterbaby
Joined: 5/6/2015
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Posted: 7/24/2015 1:38:07 PM

1 box KD $1.50
1/2 stick butter $0.50
1 cup milk $0.25

1 envelope Kool-Aid $0.25

Romantic dinner for two for $2.50 Prep time @15 min


Oh, Baby! Let me know what colour of Koolaid you're bringing and I'll make Jello to match ;) But you dam well better put out.
 Coma_White
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Posted: 7/24/2015 1:51:09 PM

Or the basic response to the first message thing. No response is no response. It means NOTHING. It's the lack of a rejection. Which on multiple occasions, I said that's fine. But expecting the other person to be a mind reader and know that you actually opened that message, looked at his profile, and made the decision not to answer him, is stupid. On these sites, I've had way more than enough replies weeks or months later to know that it happens. Sometimes you mean to reply to someone but forget. Sometimes you miss an unread message in your inbox. Now, I'm not condoning harassing the other person, but there's no harm at all in a followup message to be sure. This is why the socially competent among us prefer to use our words. When you actually say what's on your mind, there's no more room for confusion. I'm not saying you have to, I'm just saying that not everyone is going to know what your silence meant. And sometimes when there's plans, a simple "I changed my mind" is infinitely easier than just hide from his call and text making sure you're still on for that night. But again, men's time means nothing, it's all about you, and you're so afraid of confrontation that you're going to have a huge kick in the ass once you're finally dating and you get into your first fight. I got bad news for you, hiding from your boyfriend doesn't solve the problem, it only introduces a 2nd girl.


That's not true. If you apply for a job and they don't call you, that means they passed you up (or rejected your offer to work) for someone else. You might be right if the person you're messaging has stopped using this site and no longer checks their mail. Honestly, the most annoying thing about this site is how it erases your mail so quickly and doesn't save your contacts. I don't think it's right to stand someone up, but there's no need to care about people that don't write you back or call you back. It sounds like you're coming from a position of scarcity instead of abundance which doesn't make sense because you say you get lots of replies. I think online dating works best in combination with dating in person, especially in smaller communities.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 7/24/2015 2:00:16 PM

I'm guessing the average meal a person would prepare for a date would cost at least around $60

LOL - what? Seriously? $60? Yeah, at a nice restaurant. Without wine (as you put it for the $60) one could go to Applebees and have a "proper meal" for two for about half that. Making something oneself is cheaper than restaurants. Chicken breasts aren't expensive at all. I can understand Rockin's $1 frozen vegetables being low-class (hated them as a kid and as an adult; bland, tasteless ick) -- but replace that with this and that and add some extras -- and a nice dinner for 2 can easily be under $20 when made by oneself.

But expecting the other person to be a mind reader and know that you actually opened that message, looked at his profile, and made the decision not to answer him, is stupid. On these sites, I've had way more than enough replies weeks or months later to know that it happens.

Yeah, one will get some. Virtually all weren't interested then -- and a large majority aren't going to have that much interest when they do respond, if you want to go by people's stat results on that. But yes, in terms of whether you KNEW they considered your message -- yes, it'll be delayed in time, notably for gals who have their inboxes flooded and are busy herding their kids when it's not time to go to baby-daddy's, juggling other date ops, sure.

Now, I'm not condoning harassing the other person, but there's no harm at all in a followup message to be sure. This is why the socially competent among us prefer to use our words.

I will agree with you. On both sides it's a "Me" focus. "Me" as the guy is "Hey, I'm playing the stats game. So what if it's annoying to you, Miss 75%? It's a site, I'm doin' business!" And "Me" as the girl is "Don't you understand I get SO annoyed by guys leaving 2,3,4, even 5 messages to me over time? If I don't respond, I'm not interested!" while not caring/understanding of how the online dating world is tilted. It should be "Me"-based when it's a stranger, dealing with merely the fishing line.

I'm just saying that not everyone is going to know what your silence meant.

True. But MOST, and by common-sense dictates that there's a very HIGH % that she lacks sufficient interest. A delayed reply, in and of itself, doesn't mean sufficient interest (even though some may express it; follow-thru with it on a successful date actually happening -- then yeah). Statistically -- go for it. Send her a 2nd message:

PROS: You up the % chance of getting a reply, thereby upping the % chance of getting a date (albeit very small)

CONS: You make a good % of gals have less respect for you when you're "one of those guys", if they solidly have no interest and get annoyed by that stuff -- which is a decent amt. It ups the chances of girls you know IRL and thru social networking IRL having a not-so-positive thing to pass along, being one of those gals (albeit a very small chance if you're not doing it a billion times or live in a small town).
 adventurejoe70
Joined: 3/1/2013
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Posted: 7/24/2015 2:15:58 PM

LOL - what? Seriously? $60? Yeah, at a nice restaurant. Without wine (as you put it for the $60) one could go to Applebees and have a "proper meal" for two for about half that. Making something oneself is cheaper than restaurants. Chicken breasts aren't expensive at all.
I can understand Rockin's $1 frozen vegetables being low-class (hated them as a kid and as an adult; bland, tasteless ick) -- but replace that with this and that and add some extras -- and a nice dinner for 2 can easily be under $20 when made by oneself.


LOL- yeah I didn't want to sound like a bully so I waited for you to start(I can always count on you) but I can't even imagine what a 60 dollar home cooked mean , not including drinks, would look like. Perhaps she was including the mariachi band and obligatory disco ball on the ceiling?
*not making fun, just can't figure out what food, home cooked would cost $60- Lobster and shrimp? NO WAY

I have seen the inside of professional kitchens, that is where I learned to cook Italian food at my pops night clubs. They use the CHEAPEST stuff. The chef used to make loads of baked potatoes and then freeze them until they were used. I heard he became a top guy in Vegas. They buy the cheapest stuff, keep it way past expiration, and freeze and unfreeze everything.

Most home-cooked romantic meals will either be chicken breast or Salmon, with vegetables and a grain. All is cheap stuff! The main ingredient is presentation, just like in any restaurant. The second main ingredient is the spices used to flavor the old expired vegetables :)


PROS: You up the % chance of getting a reply, thereby upping the % chance of getting a date (albeit very small)


IMHO I think it is worth it,but we discussed this before so I am not going to relive it now :)
 Whatsamatterbaby
Joined: 5/6/2015
Msg: 708
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Posted: 7/24/2015 2:51:45 PM

LOL - what? Seriously? $60?


Not sure why, but I feel the need to get to the bottom of this. Let's look at a half decent meal that most men would enjoy: Steak, roasted potatoes, prawn Caesar salad with homemade croutons, fresh shaved parmesian, bacon, roasted garlic. Chocolate covered strawberries for dessert. Just the more costly ingredients:

Two barely passable steaks: $15
Innexpensive prawns: $12
Bacon on sale: $5
Shaved parmesian: $8
Fresh herbs (out of season): $6

I'm no mathematical genius, but I believe that totals $46. You MIGHT get the remaining ingeredients for $14. But in all fairness, if it's summer I can pick the herbs out of my garden.

Am I right, or is food way more inexpensive in the States? That must be the difference.

Comparable meal at a restaurant, but probably of lesser quality: $30 per person plus tax and tip. (But no chocolate covered strawberries.)

(Fyi I would NEVER discuss any of this with a date. Way tacky.)
 Behind-Blue-Eyes_53
Joined: 12/19/2011
Msg: 709
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Posted: 7/24/2015 2:55:15 PM

I can understand Rockin's $1 frozen vegetables being low-class (hated them as a kid and as an adult; bland, tasteless ick) --


I can understand this..... As a Kid, I'd rather have canned veggies, than Frozen.... The Frozen ones were that Bad....

But, if You haven't tried the New, Steam in the Bag Frozen Veggies in the last 5 years or so....
Then give them a try, they're not Your Mother's Frozen Veggies.......

As for the $60 USD for a Home Cooked Meal.... You're in the expensive Steak/Fish area.... It's easy to make a good H/C meal for 2, for under $25 USD, & have leftovers for later, too.....

^^^^^ Like I said, Steak or Fish, & You have both Steak & Seafood listed.... ^^^^^

Truth be told, I don't care for Prawns, but as a good Guest, I would eat some of them......

The 1st Meal My late Wife fixed for Me, 5 Days after I met Her....
Was Her Mom's Chicken Cacciatore... I ate it & smiled...
Didn't tell Her till way later, that I didn't like most Chicken Dishes...
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