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 hyoid
Joined: 5/12/2009
Msg: 7
Raised by media, and what to do about it now.Page 2 of 2    (1, 2)

seems to me that TV is the "opium of the masses"


Sorry, religion is the opium of the masses.

Maybe TV can be the Quaalude of the masses.

I'll admit to feeling a bit smug in the past about not watching TV. That decision had several motivations. One was boredom. I mean, how many times can you watch horeshoe crabs mate?
Another was recognizing that most fictional TV is character based. And many of those characters are really exceptional. Gorgeous or hilarious or resourceful or evil. Not at all like the real people around me. Why wouldn't I prefer those archetypes of humanity to the flawed, only occasionally outstanding people around me.
Then there were the ads. My first love was the Green Bay Packers but I can't stand to watch televised football. 3 hours to complete a 60 minute game?

TV gave me an easy way to teach my 2 sons to be sceptical about commercial claims. When they were younger and at the age where every new toy commercial brought cries of "Dad! I really want that. It's so cool!" I decided to show them how the marketing differed from the reality.
We got out one of the Hot Wheels tracks they begged for and set it up to do the flying crashes that dominated the commercials and thrilled the actors. Well, that cheap extruded plastic doesn't make a very precise fit so keeping things on the track was the first problem to solve. With lots of duct tape we finally got a smooth track and worked on the timing. Finally got that precise.
Ran it once. "Hey! That was cool! DO it again."
then "Neat."
then "OK . I'm going to go play with Quinn. Can I put this away later?"

They actually got into an argument at Target once, disagreeing on which part of a heavily advertised toy would break first. Auto commercials draw particular sarcasm" I'm going to get a car that levitates buildings" "Well I'm going to get one that drives up the sides of mountains"
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Raised by media, and what to do about it now.
Posted: 7/17/2009 12:44:23 PM
RE Msg: 24 by hyoid:

seems to me that TV is the "opium of the masses"
Sorry, religion is the opium of the masses.

Maybe TV can be the Quaalude of the masses.
I don't deny that there Karl Marx said that. But I just don't think it fits with the way that opium is used. Opium addicts were the heroin junkies of their day. You cannot just take opium every Sunday, and forget about it the rest of the week. But many people do just that with religion. But those who do watch TV avidly, cannot bear to miss their favourite soaps, including me.

I'll admit to feeling a bit smug in the past about not watching TV. That decision had several motivations. One was boredom. I mean, how many times can you watch horeshoe crabs mate?
Another was recognizing that most fictional TV is character based. And many of those characters are really exceptional. Gorgeous or hilarious or resourceful or evil. Not at all like the real people around me. Why wouldn't I prefer those archetypes of humanity to the flawed, only occasionally outstanding people around me.
Then there were the ads. My first love was the Green Bay Packers but I can't stand to watch televised football. 3 hours to complete a 60 minute game?

TV gave me an easy way to teach my 2 sons to be sceptical about commercial claims.
I usually like to analyse adverts to figure out why they are trying to sell me something. For instance, most commericals use music, which is claimed to bypass the thinking parts of the brain, and to get you to buy things on your emotions alone. When some ad doesn't have any music, it often seems to be something that is so useful, and such good value for money, that if I had never saw it in an advert, but happened to see it in a shop while I was out, I'd buy it

When they were younger and at the age where every new toy commercial brought cries of "Dad! I really want that. It's so cool!" I decided to show them how the marketing differed from the reality.
We got out one of the Hot Wheels tracks they begged for and set it up to do the flying crashes that dominated the commercials and thrilled the actors. Well, that cheap extruded plastic doesn't make a very precise fit so keeping things on the track was the first problem to solve. With lots of duct tape we finally got a smooth track and worked on the timing. Finally got that precise.
Ran it once. "Hey! That was cool! DO it again."
then "Neat."
then "OK . I'm going to go play with Quinn. Can I put this away later?"

They actually got into an argument at Target once, disagreeing on which part of a heavily advertised toy would break first. Auto commercials draw particular sarcasm" I'm going to get a car that levitates buildings" "Well I'm going to get one that drives up the sides of mountains"
Great idea. Now I have an idea on how to keep my future children from developing low self-esteem from watching TV adverts at their friend's houses.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 7/17/2009 12:44:41 PM
RE Msg: 27 by Alli_oop:

So you're probably right. From what you've said, I guess there are probably no white atheists who don't watch TV, and aren't white trash.
I'ma white atheist, I watch tv, therefore I'm white trash? Nice.
Now you have a better idea why I don't think it is fair to assume that theists are any less intelligent than atheists.
 ejspur
Joined: 7/2/2008
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Raised by media, and what to do about it now.
Posted: 7/17/2009 5:35:32 PM
I'm white. I don't watch tv. I'm not exactly aethist and I'm not really theist. It wasn't always this way. I was once a good little Christian boy, but then I found that there were just too many questions that religion couldn't answer for me.

I'm not trying to profess a "Holier Than Thou" mindset when I say I despise what television has done to western culture, just merely stating that it spends too much time distracting people from real issues, rather keeping them focused on whatever Paris Hilton is up to, or who the next (Clay Aiken/Carrie Underwood/et al.) will be.

I'm simply saying that I personally find it deceiving. Deceiving and addictive for people who can't keep a handle on their addictions. Once again, everything in moderation, right?

However, I liken television to a drug in many ways. People stare into the God-box with about the same level of emotional connection to the people around them as heroine addicts have. They waste hours per day watching things that bring little enjoyment. (Next time you watch the news, count the advertisements for anti-depressants. You might be surprised.)

Nonetheless, I don't profess to be better than the guy in the trailer park who sits and watches eight hours of television a day. I simply profess to be more aware of the world around me now that I've turned it off.

Mind you, addiction to the internet is just as damaging, and I can say I spend more than two hours a day online. Time that could be better spent out enjoying the fresh air and company of friends, much like the tv crowd.

Everyone here is making some really good points for and against the whole "raised by media" thing. There are some things that modern mass media has done that can be positive, if utilized and received properly, but I find the negative aspects far outweigh them. That's why I woke up one morning and instead of turning on the tv, I decided we were done like dinner and dumped it like a bad date.
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