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 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 657
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?Page 27 of 29    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)

We have 50 million abortions.

Is that true?
Is that in a year, or since forever?
There's only about 150 million females in the USA, I would guess that only about a third (?) would be capable of breeding.
Does that mean that every single (or not single ) fertile female in the USA has had at least one abortion?
Maths.

Mind you, I suspect the cretin who made the claim is a devout "goddist" of some sort.
And it's been estimated that "god" aborts more perfectly "wanted" babies than all the abortion clinics combined.
As many as one in three pregnancies ends in spontaneous abortion, many without even being known about.
Good old "god" eh?

If you believe in "god" then he does that.
Maybe he could jam a few of all those guns, when they're killing all those children.
It must either be that all you Americans aren't praying hard enough, or that the whole "god" thing is just made-up bullshit.

I know which option my money would be on.

It's funny how they're only ever "terrorists" if they're brown..... or "Muslim", preferably both.
And this guy was religious, and in the choir, with religious parents, who were still together.
But not a terrorist.
Just crazy.

Not enough guns is clearly the problem.
They should be at least "waist-deep", everywhere; that would slow everyone down.

It's terrible that all these children need to die, just so that some morons can selfishly keep their "rights" to make believe they're tough.
And tragic that the same morons never seem to realise that, until their own child dies.

America may become the first entire country to win a "Darwin Award".
Jmo
 dragonbytes
Joined: 9/15/2015
Msg: 658
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Posted: 5/21/2018 9:43:05 AM
John
There is always going to be incidents that are not "carbon copy" to another but we are in decline with morality. We need to fix that first.


If you want to fix the decline in morality, Trump would be the last guy to lead that charge. He wouldn't even know what morality meant, for him morality is whatever you can get away with legally is moral.
 APRILIKESWHITEROSES
Joined: 4/6/2018
Msg: 659
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/21/2018 9:52:30 AM

He wouldn't even know what morality meant. Trump would be the last guy to lead that charge


wrong ^^



He already starts.

The Trump Administration Is Partially Defunding Planned Parenthood.!!


 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 660
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/21/2018 9:56:52 AM

The Trump Administration Is Partially Defunding Planned Parenthood.!!


How wonderful...now many women who received medical care and treatments and preventative medicine from Planned parenthood will be on their own.....you effing losers are destroying our country. You all should take a boat to nowhere and let decent folk be.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 661
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/21/2018 10:13:47 AM
^^^^ Nailed it.

There is nothing, nothing....SFA, that is moral about SCROTUS. Not his cheating on 3 wives, not riding a porn star bareback, not his insulting a POW, not his insulting a family who buried their soldier son. Not even his comments about grabbing pussi or saying his daughter is so attractive even he'd "do her". Or raping his first wife.

I really shake my head at the low IQ, uneducated and inbred folks that still support Scrotum in Chief. I can see people still supporting the Republican Party - but not that POS in the White House.

Be Best....what a crock of shyt....coming from a woman who has shown her hooch and tytties to the world. Garbage. Absolute garbage with no, NO, moral compass what so ever.
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 662
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Posted: 5/21/2018 10:39:24 AM
“What does abortion have to do with a gunman showing up at a school and shooting people?”

As I said, if the killer’s parents had aborted him, he never would have shot up that school. Certainly that’s about as close of a connection to those things as he could have meant.

“That is so true in general!! We don't know all the facts in this killing spree last week but what is said^^^^ is so true!! There is always going to be incidents that are not ‘carbon copy’ to another but we are in decline with morality.”

This incident is not merely “not carbon copy,” but the complete antithesis of what the Lt. governor was suggesting to blame. Again, we know for a fact that his parents were married, ultra-religious, ultra-conservative, anti-gun-control and almost certainly anti-abortion. But how could that be, John? Lt. Gov. Patrick claims that families like those should not be producing mass murderers. And the school had good guys with guns who did their jobs, yet one got shot and ten people are dead. But how could that be, John? Lt. Gov. Patrick said that would fix everything.

Whose morality are we going to legislate, John? Yours? One man’s morality is another man’s sin. Furthermore, there are plenty of “immoral” countries where this almost never happens. Scandinavia is just full of sin (ridiculously unmarried birth rates), yet, with the exception of the Nazi nut in Norway a few years ago (which technically was a right wing terrorist attack that happened at a camp, not a school), you’d be hardpressed to find a mass murder among them, especially at a school.

“Is that in a year, or since forever?”

Forever, or thereabouts (there’s about a million a year, and abortion has been legal throughout the U.S. for less than 50 years).

“The Trump Administration Is Partially Defunding Planned Parenthood.”

Is this really the same original April? Because her command of the English language is now much more impressive than before. However, her command of sanity is about the same. Though I suppose there is an argument to be made that even though Trump himself is not in any way what most of his supporters would normally consider “moral,” he is certainly attempting to remold America in their idea of morality. Never mind that Christ would agree with very little of his policy, considering it’s so vehemently anti-poor and destructive of the Earth He created.

"Be Best....what a crock of shyt...."

I have to at least give her credit -- when she was introducing that concept, she at confessed to the irony of her doing so. Even if she is stuck in the situation she's in for financial reasons, I do wish she'd go a little farther with those sort of public admissions. I mean, what's he going to do -- beat her in the White House? Anyone remember how KJ used to hate on Hillary because she stood by her man despite Lewinsky etc.? Bill can't hold Trump's jock strap, yet Melania (or Melanie, whatever he's calling her these days) keeps right on sitting and smiling-ish to the cameras.
 dragonbytes
Joined: 9/15/2015
Msg: 663
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Posted: 5/21/2018 11:00:01 AM

wrong ^^

He already starts.

The Trump Administration Is Partially Defunding Planned Parenthood.!!


So do you think we should all be more like Trump?
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 664
well, at least they're praying. That's helped before
Posted: 5/21/2018 12:05:31 PM
"That is so true in general!!"

>>>if its general, then there's times where its not what it claims to be, so its not...true. Johnny gets today's asinine blanket statement award.

"We don't know all the facts in this killing spree last week"

>>>except we know what Hawking said--" the killer’s parents are still together, married for 18 years". So broken home wasn't the least bit generally true here, it was 100% false. And there were armed dudes there to help, the place had drills, and yet...10 students are still dead. So, we didn't have the broken home, he wasn't aborted, there were good guys with guns...all the bullshit conservatives tell us every school needs, and they still didn't prevent 10 deaths.

so now the problem is...too many doors. Which are probably necessary in a fire, but a problem in gunfire. The next time, the problem will be too many windows.

Hawking brings up a wonderful point about the girl turning down the shooter--every time someone rants about feminists taking over, and why can't a woman give me a reason for turning her down, we should remember...some guys get irate enough to shoot the girl who turns him down repeatedly.

as for Planned Parenthood, its not allowed to use your tax dollars for abortion. It can use your money for pap smears, birth control, and other "Freedoms" a woman should have, but those who claim to fight for Freedom are terrified a woman would have.
















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 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 665
well, at least they're praying. That's helped before
Posted: 5/21/2018 12:49:31 PM

If you want to fix the decline in morality, Trump would be the last guy to lead that charge. He wouldn't even know what morality meant, for him morality is whatever you can get away with legally is moral.


True. Truer words have not been spoken. I can't believe how anyone would think Trump is even remotely "moral".

I find it odd how so many bible thumpers can somehow justify Trump's behaviour, past and present. I'm thinking that they themselves are just fake Christians. Or stupid.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 666
Liberal insanity
Posted: 5/21/2018 4:38:12 PM
Hawking, your whole post is a nothing burger. Because someone is a liberal or a conservative or black or white or goes to church or not, what the hell does that have to do with anything??? Thought so. Do you know anything about this murderer yet?? Do you know what was going on in his life?? Nopers, you don't. You want to group everything into one nice little package to help make your point but obviously you can't and make it correct. It is correct in your mind but that's it.
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And another unbelievable comment from little gto: "so now the problem is...too many doors. Which are probably necessary in a fire, but a problem in gunfire"

^^^^^^^Oh boy, let me dumb it down for ya buddy. First of all, having less doors that are ENTRANCES is what you are missing, but you are frothing at the mouth spewing anything. Those doors would be EXIT doors only. Am I dumbing it down enough for ya now little gto?? Those doors don't go away, they just change to exiting only. Wow, that was difficult to dumb it down anymore then that.

Freedom a woman would have??? To kill an unborn human being? Nopers. You need to listen to the recently past president of PP and her sad reason to abort. I wonder how her children that she actually allowed to live will feel about this when they grow up.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 667
Door control insanity--guns don't kill people, doors kill people
Posted: 5/21/2018 5:33:13 PM
well, this is what educated people knew two days about the shooter:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspected-shooter-santa-fe-high-school-texas/story?id=55270939

so, knock yourself out.

"oh boy, let me dumb it down, exit doors can't never, ever, ever become entrances. In my world its impossible for people to walk in two directions thru a doorway, and that's how we solve the guns in schools problem--we focus on doors. It would have worked wonders in the country music shooting in Las Vegas"

>>>Little Johnny, you're thinking of revolving doors (which require a massive redesign to replace a doorframe due to size) and subway turnstiles that turn in only one direction. To say that a door can only move humans in one direction, is to reveal you've never walked thru a doorway in your life. or you're in some real denial. Kids have been sneaking into theatres for centuries, thru these magic exit doors. How do you make an exit door an entrance? you knock, someone opens it, and you walk right thru :)

I tried to find "how a door works" to link for you, but even the internet thinks people know how a door works :) Maybe you are thinking of a panic bar, but schools have had those since I was in school. The Texas guv promotes "door control" b/c its fashionable, not b/c it helps. Well, it would help the shooter--cut down on the number of doors to escape during an active shooting, and its easier to trap students. or sit in the parking lot and shoot as they come out the only entrance.

what about when a nightclub gets shot up? don't they have that magic design you wish for? how about country music events? how about every event we go to, we put in these magic exit doors, b/c its cheaper to make everything in the world a prison than to look at the common item found in every shooting...that thing doing the shooting.

"to kill an unborn being"

>>>hey, we killed millions in Iraq over fake WMD--any of the abortion foes crying over that loss of life? why not? don't they count as human lives lost?
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 668
People who don't know politics or doors
Posted: 5/21/2018 5:46:38 PM
"you're thinking of revolving doors (which require a massive redesign to replace a doorframe due to size) and subway turnstiles that turn in only one direction. To say that a door can only move humans in one direction, is to reveal you've never walked thru a doorway in your life. or you're in some real denial."

^^^^^^^Just like your poor other posts little gto, you have no clue what you are talking about. I know of a building not far from me that has lots of doors and a few years ago they decided they didn't want so may doors that you could enter and they made them doors that you can only exit from inside. No "massive redesign, no replacing any doorframe". They DID NOT CHANGE THE DOORS!!!!! See, you are not educated in how a door can change from being an entrance and an exit to just an exit.........without changing the door. Aren't you special in being ok with killing an unborn human.
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 669
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Posted: 5/22/2018 5:08:04 AM
“Because someone is a liberal or a conservative or black or white or goes to church or not, what the hell does that have to do with anything???”

I’m not the one who claimed that the supposed breakdown in society creates mass murderers – that was Lt. Gov. Patrick, whom YOU agreed with. My post was sarcastic. I’m pointing out the fallacy of his theory and your beliefs. If there’s one thing that all mass murderers have in common, it’s that they have almost nothing in common. The last 4 significant spree killers (Santa Fe, Parkland, Sutherland Springs, Las Vegas) were as different as night and day in their backgrounds, “red flags,” known motivations and general temperaments. About the only thing they had in common (besides being white males) was one day they all woke up and decided it was time to kill a bunch of people, and all had easy access to a bunch of guns to do so. Certainly they all had mental issues, too, though in two of those 4 cases, that was apparently in no way outwardly obvious for most of their lives. Paddock was way too old for violent video games to factor in and we’ve heard little about video games with the other 3. One was extremely Christian religious, another at some point so patriotic he was willing to give his country the ultimate sacrifice. At least two of them grew up with both parents in a stable household (although in Cruz’s case, they were adoptive parents but from the time he was born, and his adoptive father did die when he was young; I’m not sure about the Sutherland shooter’s background, but benefit of the doubt is against Kelley being from a stable household, while Paddock’s father was a notorious bank robber that he never really knew other than news reports). And again, what the hell does abortion have to do with any of this? The point is, if you and Patrick are going to be blaming certain aspects of society for creating these monsters, then you better be using examples that fit your narrative. Otherwise you’re just grandstanding in a vacuum.

“First of all, having less doors that are ENTRANCES is what you are missing, but you are frothing at the mouth spewing anything. Those doors would be EXIT doors only.”

Having worked at theaters for many years, I can tell you pretty much every theater in existence has only one entrance way, though a bunch of exits. Yet, interestingly, that didn’t stop James Holmes from killing 12 people in one. Even though, as I said before, I generally agree that by far the best way to keep mass shootings from happening in public places is a single entrance with security, that is far from foolproof. Because the Santa Fe killer was a student at the school, he would have had no problem getting inside without a weapon, finding the right exit door, propping it open slightly with an object, going to his car and getting the guns, returning to the propped open door and then carrying out his massacre. The obvious way to possibly prevent that from happening is making the exit-only doors emergency doors that have an alarm (silent or otherwise) go off if someone exits them, but that is highly impractical at most schools, because almost no suburban or rural schools consist of a single building and they all have exterior recreational areas for recess and P.E. And putting a fence around the entire campus is about as useful as the fences we currently have on the Mexican border – anybody hellbent on killing a bunch of people will climb over or cut through.

Turning our schools into fortresses will certainly deter some killers, but fact of the matter is, easy access to guns will always lead to some mass murders, which continues to be the main difference between the United States and the rest of the civilized world that has far fewer of these incidents per capita.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 670
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 6:07:48 AM
Thank you for explaining how any door allows access in both directions. Perhaps he will listen to you. but I wonder who is going to pay for all this security at every school, with Betsy DeVos in charge?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/betsy-devos-and-the-plan-to-break-public-schools

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/02/12/devos-seeks-massive-cuts-from-education-department-to-support-school-choice/?utm_term=.0db023a4f988

Of course, spending money to make schools into prisons (Which of course makes students do better in school, to be surrounded by all this fear of dying inside the fortress) still leaves nightclubs (don't they funnel patrons thru one entrance? then how do they get shootings?) and country music venues in Las Vegas for shootings. Golly, how much money do we want to spend to avoid the obvious?

its just like the tobacco companies who tell us there's still no proof people die of smoking. its the same level of reasoning.
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 671
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 6:11:44 AM

"Following the Santa Fe shooting, anti-gun-control Texas Lt. Governor Patrick said in blame: “We have 50 million abortions. We have families that are broken apart, no fathers at home. We have incredible heinous violence as a [video] game, two hours a day in front of their eyes. And we stand here and we wonder why this happens to certain students." Then he started talking about the lack of armed teachers and the need for more “door control.”

^^^^^^^^^That is so true in general!! We don't know all the facts in this killing spree last week but what is said^^^^ is so true!! There is always going to be incidents that are not "carbon copy" to another but we are in decline with morality. We need to fix that first.


Why not just set aside a special day all the gun nuts?

When that day comes around, you keep your kids home from school, and every time you see someone with a gun, you can wish them a Happy Mass Shooter Day!
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 672
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 7:31:43 AM

When that day comes around, you keep your kids home from school, and every time you see someone with a gun, you can wish them a Happy Mass Shooter Day!


You know, if I had a kid in school right now.....I'd remove them and just walk away and revisit the whole thing in September. This is too stressful for parents and especially for kids that can't wrap their brains around this.

Then I'd pick a weekend or two in June and march on mass to Washington and tell that ignorant fck in the White House and any other ignorant fck that takes money from the NRA to come out and look at these kids and tell them exactly how much they think those kids are worth - those kids are worth sweet fck all to those politicians. Why can't one of those school shooters do the country a favour and visit the offices of the NRA and then hop over to the Oval Office....and have a "chat".

I think these Parkland kids and their contemporaries will be voting in November and those millennial's will be the change and a force to be reckoned with. Gone will be the old white bible thumper Repulicvnts that have devalued children in school.
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 673
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 7:49:06 AM

About the only thing they had in common (besides being white males)...


If a brown skinned person was to commit the same thing, it wouldn't be called a mass killing. It would be called terrorism, and there would be a big inquiry to try to tie in the shooter and his family into a foreign terrorist organization. Speaking of color, the mass shooting in schools epidemic doesn't seem to affect areas that are predominately black or some other ethnic origin. It's mostly in neighborhoods with middle class white, God fearing Christian people. I guess God was taking a day off when some nut decided to go to a school to kill as many people as possible.

I can't imagine school being a fun or memorable event when students have to go through a metal detector ans possibly searched just to get in, along with the daily fear of being killed. If there's a mass shooting at an elementary school or day care center, are they going to extend the metal detector and baggage search for anyone going into those places? If gun nuts say the solution is to arm teachers, would that include elementary school teachers and day care workers, as well as college professors, in addition to high school teachers? That would be an NRA dream world.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 674
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 8:06:38 AM

Why not just set aside a special day all the gun nuts?

Hell....round them up...give them a week, in some secluded area where they can play 'soldier' and shoot each other.

Yes....The kids will be old enough to vote...anyone supporting the NRA will be out.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 675
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 8:26:38 AM
Looks like little gto still can't understand the door thingy. He thinks you have to tear down a building and then you can install the "correct" door.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 676
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 8:47:33 AM
The door thingy is just as stupid and asinine as arming teachers. Its always amazes me what stupid, stupid ideas the gun nutters and Republicvnts come with when there is another slaughter of children. You would think that one slaughter of children would be enough for them to actually DO something, but its the 22 slaughter of 2018 an still the Idiot in Chief does nothing.....he's more concerned about porn stars, a Playboy Bunny, hiring yet another lawyer and spelling his wife's name incorrectly. The world watches and shakes its collective head and goes "WTF is up with the US of A?"

Somehow the Republicvnts worry about what women do with their vaginas and don't a rat's azz what gun nutters do. They don't like abortion but don't seem to have an issue with the weekly slaughter of children in schools.

Regarding some of you Republicvnts on here, how come you can't manage a "OMFG, another tragic shooting at a school, we have to do something". You just go off and support the latest fckwit comments from some stupid politician. "thoughts and prayers"....geez. Pathetic. That POS SCROTUS spent more time bitching about a black football player taking a knee....he doesn't give a shyt about dead black men OR school kids. Porn stars and lawyers and insulting POW's - that's it. What a simpleton.
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 677
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/22/2018 10:58:45 AM

That POS SCROTUS spent more time ****ing about a black football player taking a knee....he doesn't give a shyt about dead black men OR school kids.


Do you mean Trump saying he's not afraid of the NRA, and chastised a couple of senators, accusing them of being afraid of the NRA when he presented a new bill, but did a complete 180 at the NRA convention, saying "I Am Going to Come Through for You"-referring to the NRA stance of not having restrictions on gun purchases? And he made it sound like the people who want restrictions on gun purchases are trying to destroy the Constitution and the American way of life, and they are the enemy. Getting a huge donation from the NRA might have something to do with that. lol.

Or do you mean when Trump was on the campaign trail, and said " What do you have to lose?", referring to African American and Hispanic voters? For one thing, their lives. What has Trump done or said whenever an unarmed black person is shot and killed by police? Zilch. How many police officers have been charged after murdering an unarmed black person? Zilch. But when football players take a knee to protest cold blooded murder by the police, Trump publicly throws a temper tantrum and goes nuts. Gee-what great leadership qualities (not).
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 678
Doors are not a constitutional right, so maybe we can start banning those
Posted: 5/22/2018 1:20:19 PM
Ok Little Johnny, you've had enough time to do research...how do you make a door that only works in one direction? Tell us how we keep kids from sneaking in thru panic bar doors as they do at movie theatres, and when they sneak out to grab a smoke, and so on. Then tell us who's going to pay to install these magic one-flow direction doors in thousands of schools, including ones where the teachers go on strike to get a pay raise. Then you can return to blaming the shooter's parents' 18 year marriage as the reason for broken marriages making shooters. Or we can blame too many windows again. That allows shooters to see how many students there are, and i'll bet the next shooting that happens, windows will be to blame. They allows the shooters to see their targets, and they are tempted, so let's blame the windows rather than guns.

and remember kids, research hasn't proven tobacco causes cancer-- out of all the science we ignore, that's the one science we continue to believe. I did like the idea of special gun nut day, maybe it should be Saturday detention. Everyone can show up in their trench coat and reveal what gun their Daddy owns. We can label it "show and spray". They can write on a melon the name of the girl who turns them down, and blast away. they'll get in touch with their feelings and get counseling and...oh shit, now it sounds like a liberal thing. well, it was a nice idea while it lasted. But let's blame video games for violence, and not some asshole who says,

"I could shoot anyone I want to in Times Square and get away with it"

b/c why would any kid listen to the president.

"the world asks WTF is up with the USA"

>>.our head is up, and you can guess where. But at least Texans will pray, and that helped so much the last times we had shootings. But keep watching for those damned doors, there's too many doors but there's just not enough guns. if only we have more guns than doors, we should be ok. boy, thank the Good Lord these idiots are in charge--a solution will be just around the corner. Like it was during the last shooting, and the last one before it, and...
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 679
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/24/2018 5:26:10 AM

He already starts.
The Trump Administration Is Partially Defunding Planned Parenthood.!!


So, how's the math on that working for you?

This will be the US, if Donny gets his way. He doesn't care, in his world, it's just a s**thole country, but will you care when it happens to your neighbor's kid?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/health/trump-mexico-city-policy-abortion-ban-kenya-asequals-intl/index.html

Trump's ban on global abortion funding has led to more abortions

Nairobi, Kenya — Health worker Elizabeth Wanjiru was walking through the narrow streets of Kenya's largest slum earlier this year when she came across two schoolboys pointing at something in a muddy ditch. As she drew closer she saw it was the remains of an aborted fetus. Dumped elsewhere in Kibera, the fetus had washed up in a narrow alleyway after a night of rainfall. It's something Wanjiru hasn't seen for years.

Wanjiru and other health workers in Kenya told CNN that the number of backstreet abortions have increased since the United States cut aid to family planning programs that provide abortion services, in addition to contraception, in the world's least developed countries.

Ushered in by President Donald Trump's administration, the Mexico City policy, or global gag rule, was supposed to reduce the number of abortions, but healthcare workers in Kenya say it's doing the opposite. The cuts, which left thousands of women in Kenya without contraception, have forced many to resort to risky, backstreet abortions as a form of birth control.

Trump is also eyeing funding changes in the US. Last week, his administration proposed a new rule that would bar abortions or advice on abortion at facilities receiving federal family planning funds. While there are already laws in place that prevent federal money from directly funding abortions, the new rule would mean family planning programs would have to perform abortion services or provide abortion counseling and referrals in a different place, and by different employees, for the facility to continue receiving federal family planning dollars. It's been described as a domestic version of the global gag policy by abortion rights activists.

Reliant on international donors for support, communities like Kibera are where the Mexico City policy has been felt the most and, so far, the national government says it has been unable to make up the shortfall.
For five years Khadijah Dija visited a family health clinic in the slum every three months to get a free contraceptive injection until Trump's funding cuts came into effect. The single mother-of-two says she relied on the family-planning method to avoid having another child she couldn't afford. Her daily earnings from selling porridge, equivalent to 50 cents, are barely enough to buy food for her family, or pay rent on their one-room house.

When the nongovernmental organization Family Health Options Kenya (FHOK) informed Dija last August that it no longer had funds to provide her with free contraception she said she was devastated. The three-month injectable contraceptives she had previously received for free would now cost her $4, according to FHOK. Sitting on the bottom bunk of her children's bed, their toys scattered around her, Dija told CNN that she had considered getting injections from a local pharmacy, where they sell for about $2 to $3. But she said they're often expired, or unsafe, and she couldn't afford them anyway.

Injectables are the most commonly used form of contraception for women in Africa. Invisible to partners, they reduce the risk of backlash and are easy to use. Africa already has the lowest percentage of women using birth control, and the highest unmet demand for contraceptives in the world. Read more: US foreign aid cuts could be a 'death sentence' to women in Malawi. And because many African countries rely on US Agency for International Development (USAID) money to fill gaps in women's health services, the Trump funding cuts are hitting women like Dija particularly hard.

Without access to contraception, Dija became pregnant with her third child last October. She went to a backstreet clinic in Kibera and got abortion pills illegally. To pay for the pills, which cost about $10, Dija had to dip into precious savings she had made from her work at a women's group in the slum. "I couldn't give birth because my husband is not supporting or helping me, so I decided to terminate the pregnancy. I thought that was the best option," she said. When CNN interviewed Dija in her home, she said it had been a month since taking the abortion pills, and she was still bleeding. Asked what she will do if the bleeding doesn't stop, Dija said: "I hope it will."

Abortion is illegal in Kenya, except for when the life or health of the mother is at risk, but it is on the rise in Kibera, where most residents live in extreme poverty -- earning less than $1 per day. Wilson Bunde, who works with FHOK, said women like Dija, who were coming to the Kibera clinic for free contraceptives, are returning to be treated for botched abortions instead. Organizations like Bunde's are supported by the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF), a global provider of sexual and reproductive health services, which stands to lose up to $100 million in USAID after refusing to sign up to the terms of Trump's policy. The cuts meant FHOK stopped offering subsidized contraception in Kibera, closed a clinic and cut a community outreach program. Without access to that program, Bunde estimated, 36,000 women went without family planning last year.

In February 2018, the US State Department released an initial review of Trump's expanded policy, rebranded Protecting Life in Global Health Assistance (PLGHA). The State Department said it was still "too early to assess the full range of benefits and challenges of the PLGHA policy." But it did include one comment of support from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, which praised PLGHA as "one of the most significant policy initiatives on abortion ever taken by the United States in an area of foreign assistance." It's not the first time that a US president has imposed changes to USAID for organizations administering family planning in the world's least developed countries. First introduced by President Ronald Reagan in 1984, the global gag rule was rescinded by Democrats and then reinstated by Republicans (under George W. Bush), but never before to this extent.

Trump's policy slashes an estimated $8.8 billion in US global health assistance -- funding that applies not only to family planning, as it has previously, but extends to prevention and treatment of HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, infectious diseases, and even hygiene programs. In 2001, the Bush administration cut about $600 million in foreign aid. One year later, induced abortions spiked. The correlation was identified in a 2011 Stanford University study, which analyzed abortion rates in 20 sub-Saharan African countries receiving USAID for family planning and women's health over 14 years. The researchers found that when the Mexico City policy was in place, women were up to 2.73 times more likely to get abortions than women in countries where the policy was not applied.

In Kibera, women are turning to untrained abortion providers as a last resort. One practitioner, who asked that CNN not use her real name due to fear of prosecution, said she often treats women who are between six and seven months pregnant. She performs the procedure with a knitting needle, puncturing the pregnant woman's amniotic sac, which forces the fetus out of the uterus. The practitioner, who told CNN that she was a trained midwife, said she sees mostly young schoolgirls and unmarried women. She carries out the abortions in her small home. On a twin bed covered by a thin clear plastic sheet, sat a bag with surgical gloves, a jar of petroleum jelly, cotton wool, some pain killers and the needle, attached to a long, thin tube, which is used to drain the fluid into a bucket on the floor.
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Msg: 680
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/24/2018 5:45:17 AM

Trump's ban on global abortion funding has led to more abortions


Is anyone present at that very moment counting when each abortion is occurring?..Lol.
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Msg: 681
Guns a right but healthcare a privelage?
Posted: 5/24/2018 6:15:34 AM
April....yoi think this is funny? Trash on the right...trash on the left...very sad.
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