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 imalwayssmiling
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Gallup PollPage 8 of 18    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18)

he might be FORCED to keep the other Promises he made too,....Now we just cant have that now, can we....

A President that Keeps his Promises ??????

UN-HEARD OF !
Well atleast your predictable,your one of the most consistantly hate based contibutors and one of the easiest ones to disprove your radical opinions by merely using facts .Here from politifact.com the 2009 Pulitzer prize winning fact proving site.

Obamas Promises
* Promise Kept 54
* Compromise 14
* Promise Broken 7
* Stalled 17
* In the Works 154
* Not yet rated 269
 imalwayssmiling
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Posted: 11/22/2009 5:29:44 PM
Yes its true,that in the month of November there are polls showing Obama below the 50 mark.

In fact the LOWS are in four polls for November
Rasmussen Reports 11/8 - 11/10 is 46%
Quinnipiac 11/9 - 11/16 is 48%
FOX News 11/17 - 11/18 is 46%
Gallup 11/19 - 11/21 is 48%


ALSO TO FAIR there are six polls showing HIGHS for November

CBS News 11/13 - 11/16 is 53%
CNN/Opinion Research 11/13 - 11/15 is 55%
ABC News/Wash Post 11/12 - 11/15 is 56%
POS (R) 11/9 - 11/11 is 52%
Gallup 11/8 - 11/10 is 51%
Associated Press/GfK 11/5 - 11/9 is 54%
 BikerBiker53
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Posted: 1/8/2010 3:42:13 PM
I just heard on the Radio that Obamas approval rating has dropped to 44%, and that they are considering replacing him with Jay Leno !

Thats RIGHT,...the Motto could be,...

Lets put a real CLOWN in Office !
 Imported_labor
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Posted: 1/8/2010 4:13:16 PM

I just heard on the Radio that Obamas approval rating has dropped to 44%, and that they are considering replacing him with Jay Leno !

Thats RIGHT,...the Motto could be,...

Lets put a real CLOWN in Office !


I don't know if there will ever be a better or bigger clown to occupy the office like the last one we had, just one year ago. Do you think that Jay Leno would be a bigger buffoon, and that he could have a better one-liner repertoire than him?
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 1/10/2010 5:45:36 PM
It's quite amusing that some right wingers now suddenly find themselves so oriented towards the importance of those approval ratings, considering that the last Republican president spent....oh....ummm.... his entire last term under 50%.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm


Never in his entire second term did even half of Americans approve of the way he was handling his job, according to our CBS News Polls. Indeed, for the last year and a half, George W. Bush’s approval rating has never risen above 30 percent -- a lower figure than every single rating CBS News measured for his father.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/15/opinion/pollpositions/main4724068.shtml


Considering that Obama inherited a lot of problems from that administration, and that all that great work on the economy that the Republicans were doing lead to the worst ever period post-WW2 economically....well... it's little wonder that people are anxious and concerned.

Funny how that popularity is still higher than those good old days where the economy was a lot better, isn't it ?

I guess that's because it's considered an important indicator now, by some of the same people that had forgotten all about it before.
 cupani67
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Posted: 1/12/2010 4:49:38 PM
^^^Excellent point "sashagold". I agree 100%.

I really do not understand all the obsession with following President Obama's "numbers" (ratings) so closely. Are they perhaps secretly hoping he will fail?

Were the same folks so concerned about that clown who held the office the previous eight years? I seriously doubt it. I wonder how they feel about his failures?
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 1/12/2010 9:33:11 PM
They are living through most of them now.....Iraq, and the economy/repealing of legislation that would have prevented it. There's no doubt where those things came for, and that they were far easier to get into - than to get out of.

This President has had just one year to try to undue the damage done in eight....and mainly the last four...of the Bush adminstration. For those that resent Bush's name being brought up, I would like to remind them in advance that they expected what ?

Obama would simply snap his fingers, and everything would suddenly be back to normal ?
 cotter
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Posted: 1/13/2010 10:51:48 AM
The result of Health Care Reform ought to produce more jobs ... eh? Maybe it's time for some of the out-of-work people to work on those types of skills?

With more people eventually being able to utilize "wellness benefits" ... more clinics will be opening for that purpose. Emergency rooms won't be so over-crowded because people will be able to get health care at community clinics instead. We'll need more of those too. Constructing them and providing staff for them should produce more jobs.

I'm not concerned about ratings. We have no idea who they are calling to get these ratings. I know I've never been called and neither has any member of my family.
 BikerBiker53
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Posted: 1/17/2010 10:38:35 AM
I found a clear, and concise report on Obama, that exemplifies my thoughts very well.
Check it out, this "Reporter" is talking about Obamas failed Policies.



.......................'Even Charles Manson could beat him now'...................................
Gary Younge in Prestonsburg
The Guardian,
Saturday 16 January 2010
Article history

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2010/jan/16/gary-younge-obama-first-year

One year after his election, Barack Obama's approval rating is lower at this stage than for any US president since Eisenhower. So why has the optimism surrounding his victory disappeared so suddenly?

Every Wednesday at 4.30pm they come: a small steady human trickle rolling down a ravine in Prestonsburg, western Kentucky ­towards the Town Branch church. They come in pick-ups, on foot, alone and with families. Some stop for just a few minutes. Others linger. They come for food and warm second-hand clothes. They come because desperation in this part of America has become a routine part of life.

More than a quarter of the families in Prestonsburg live in poverty; half of the children in Floyd County, where it is situated, are on food stamps. This ­Appalachian coal mining area has never been rich. But no one can remember when it has ever been this poor either. It sits on the old Route 23 – the country music highway of which Dwight Yoakam (a Floyd Country native) sang in Readin', Rightin', Route 23. It was the road that took people north to factory jobs in places such as Detroit and Cleveland and "the good life they had never seen". Now those cities are broke and there's nowhere left to go.

"We're getting more and more ­people coming here as time goes by," says Tom Price, who helps administer the church's Feed My Sheep pantry. "The bottom's just fallen out of it all." He blames it on Barack Obama. "Is there a direct correlation [between Obama's victory and the region's bad times]? I don't know. But I do know a lot of people are hurting."

A week may be a long time in politics. But a year has not been enough for the Democratic president to meet the expectations of his candidacy, deal with the situation he inherited or defuse the barbed charges of his detractors. For many the change that Obama promised when he was inaugurated a year on Wednesday has ended up being a change for the worse. Unemployment is rising, houses prices are falling, unpopular wars are still raging. After 100 days only Ronald Reagan had higher approval ratings for his first few months in office than Obama. But as his first year draws to a close nobody has had lower ratings at this stage since Dwight Eisenhower.

Keith Bartley, Floyd County's Democratic chairman, says one key reason why Obama's such a tough sell here is because of the effect of his cap and trade policy on the coal industry. Lt Governor Daniel Mongiardo, the Democratic frontrunner in Kentucky's senatorial race later this year, says he would not want Obama to come and stump for him on the campaign trail, particularly because of his environmental policies. "With some of the positions he has taken, especially on coal, no. He certainly can't come into eastern or western Kentucky and help. Nor would I want him to."

But the disenchantment goes beyond one region or one industry. The official narrative of Obama's inauguration – the fairytale most of the US media told itself and that the international community wanted to believe – was that after a ­rancourous campaign a divided country came together to celebrate the historic election of its first African-American president. The reality was always quite different. The editor of the Grayson County News Gazette in Leitchfield, a small town 230 miles west of Prestonsburg, recalls that the day after the election much of the area wore sombre faces. The week he was elected gun sales across the country leapt about 50% compared with the same period the year before.

For all of his aspirations for bipartisanship, after the first three months Obama had the most polarised early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. The gap between how Democrats and Republicans rated him at this stage was greater than George Bush Jr's in 2001 and twice as high as Richard Nixon's during the height of the Vietnam war in 1969. This was partly because Democrats loved him so much – but it was also because so few Republicans were willing to give him a hearing. Obama didn't create that partisan divide, he inherited it. Not only has he not been able to cure it, but his presence seems to have exacerbated it.

Truth be told they never really liked Obama much in Floyd County. He won only 5% of the vote against Hillary Clinton's 94% in the primaries. But until recently they did love Democrats. In the 2004 election John Kerry won the county with a 25-point margin. In 2008, John McCain took it by 2 points – the first time a Republican had won Floyd in living memory. That's to say following hurricane Katrina, the failure in Iraq, the collapse of the economy and the unravelling in Afghanistan, a sizeable portion of Floyd's voters took a look at Obama and decided that this time, for the first time, they would turn their back on the Democrats.

Back at the Feed My Sheep food ­pantry Cindy Hernandez has just picked up her groceries and is rifling through the secondhand clothes. She has no doubts about why Obama struggled in a county that is 98% white.

"That's because Obama was black. Let's get real," she says with a laugh.

"You mean people are prejudiced in eastern Kentucky?" asks Tom Nelson, the church's pastor who seems genuinely upset by what she said.

"You do not believe that?" replies Hernandez.

"I know some are, but not altogether," says Nelson. Fearing I should get the wrong impression Nelson suggested I talk to Price.

"I voted for McCain," says Price. "Because, well I voted for the old white guy. At least he's American." A few days earlier, the chairman of the Republican party in Jackson County, Arkansas, insisted electing Obama is destroying America in the same way electing Nelson Mandela destroyed South Africa. "Handing it over to the wrong people."

To ask where racism ends and politics begins in all of this is to set up a false dichotomy – America's politics has always been steeped in race and racism is a political force. The psychic scars of centuries are not removed in one election or as a result of one person. Indeed they may be deepened and made even more raw as a result of them.

The movement that has emerged to oppose him is almost exclusively white. In Little Rock, Arkansas, a city that is 40% black in a state that is 80% white, an anti-tax Tea party rally of several hundred had not one black attendee – apart from an anti-abortion speaker. The doubts they have cast about his Christianity and his birthplace (some claim Obama wasn't born in America) are really proxies for race – a bid to cast him as the ultimate "other". At an anti-healthcare reform rally in Washington in September several racist placards were spotted. One bore a picture a lion and the words, "The zoo has an African lion and the White House has a lyin' African"; another said "'Cap' Congress and 'trade' Obama back to Kenya".

But while racism might inform the intensity and shape the nature of the attacks on Obama they do not drive them. Obama's administration has raised taxes on the rich, expanded public spending, pledged to withdraw troops from Iraq and argued – if only halfheartedly – for universal healthcare. Conservatives have good reasons to be against him that have nothing to do with race.

"It's hard to specify a single source for the opposition," says Rev Wendell Griffin, a Baptist pastor and judge in Arkansas. "Part of the opposition to Obama is philosophical. There is in every society a strand of thought that glories in the myth of rugged individualism [and] he challenges that notion. He believes that the idea of a government is to have a concern not just for the individual but for the society as a whole. Some people don't like that." Griffin went on to list racism, economic desperation and the fact that he is no longer an underdog as other reasons.

His rightwing dissenters may be eccentric and racially exclusive but they have also proved highly effective. They have a populist message that excoriates Bush and the bank bailouts as well as Obama and a TV channel – Fox News – to which they are devoted and which is happy to promote their work. A recent poll showed that if the Tea party – a ­protest movement set up earlier this year to rally opposition to the stimulus bill and "big government" – were a party it would beat the Republican party.

Every week a "9/12" group meet at the non-alcoholic All Bar None in Lexington, Kentucky. This was an initiative started by Fox presenter Glenn Beck, in order to return America to the values of patriotism and godliness that he says America embraced the day after 11 September. Fourteen showed up the night I was there. A straw poll revealed that none of them blamed Obama exclusively for America heading in the wrong direction, with all preferring to blame the entire political establishment. Half believed Obama is a Muslim, just one thought he's a Christian and the overwhelming majority thought he was a communist, socialist and Marxist. None believe that he was born in America; most said they did not know.

"A lot of information about Obama's background is missing," says Abigail Billings. "The media in America is not doing any research. They're not asking any questions. They're not reporting any longer. They're now opinionated talk shows. They're no longer offering factual news coverage." They all watch Fox News.

Many on America's left are also ­disgruntled with Obama. They believe the healthcare reform, without a public option, will be inadequate, that the war in Afghanistan will unravel, the stimulus bill was insufficient to kick-start the economy and that his economic team is being run by Wall Street. But unlike the right they have so far failed to turn their disillusionment into a potent political force.

"I'd have thought in the past that if Charles Manson ran against a Republican in Floyd County he would win," says Bartley. "But Charles Manson could beat Barack Obama here right now. Thousands of miners out of work, the entire local economy in the tank. But he's got a couple of years where he could turn this round. If he does that he could win. If he doesn't, Charles Manson could come in and win."

Part one of Gary Younge's documentary Opposing Obama will air 1 February on BBC World Service at 10am, 3pm and 8pm GMT


I couldn't of said it better myself !

Obama has failed in his attempt to hold onto his followers, the tide,...has turned.
Every oppertunity Obama has had, he has messed up.
Instead of taking the Bull by the Horns, and STOPPING it,.. He has mearly grabbed the Bull by the tail, and is holding on for dear life.

One LIE after another, no wonder he ranks as the least popular President of our time.

Wheres the HOPE ?
Wheres the CHANGE ?
Why hasnt this illegal, unjust, and Imorral WAR been STOPPED ?
Why hasnt an EXIT STRAGITY been approved, and Implimented to bring our Troops home ?
Why are were going to send More Troops, in a NO WIN WAR ?

We are clearly in a NO WIN SITUATION, our Military personal are still coming home in BODY BAGS,....for WHAT ???

TAX CHEAT Charles Rangle,..is in charge of the IRS Collecting Taxes ?????

HELLO,......does anyone else see the wrongs that are being committed, and NOTHING being done about it ?

Obama has divided thia nation, instead of pulling it together.

America,..You asked for it,.....YOU GOT IT !
Now you dont like it.

Maybe next Election, you will vote in someone that is going to STOP this runaway Train.

Maybe,...thats a pretty big "Maybe".

The caliber of Presidential material is getting closer and closer to the bottom of the barrel each Election.

The only real man for the Job was RON PAUL,..and he was Black Balled by the Main Stream Media because the "Powers That Be" did NOT want a REAL MAN running away with the Election.

Obama,..will very likely be the main reason, America will NEVER vote another person of "Color" into the Presidential Office again,..no matter how quailified.
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 1/17/2010 4:35:08 PM

One year after his election, Barack Obama's approval rating is lower at this stage than for any US president since Eisenhower. So why has the optimism surrounding his victory disappeared so suddenly?


Because the American people are in the middle of the worst economic times they've had post-Ww2, and it's hard to be patient when you see that type of misery around you and perhaps even at your doorstep.

That said, none of the blame for the depth of that crash rests on this administrations actions - in fact, they probably staved off a lot worse situation by quick and decisive actions - and took an unpopular position to do it.

Given such a hole dug deeply to start with, I'm kind of amazed that anyone thinks that all the problems could be fixed in twelve months.

Again, Bush spent his entire last term under fifty per cent approval, in far better economic times, and no one on the right seemed to mind at all.
 Wookie50
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Posted: 1/19/2010 8:47:15 AM
Yep, we definitely need Republicans in there to reduce the corporate lobbyist influence Unemployment was 8% when Obama was sworn in. It has stablized and begun a decline. Blaming banks seems like a good idea seeing as how they through the Republicans repealed the Glass–Steagall Act and created the mess by encouraging investing in thin air. And they sat on the government bailout funds while the economy continued tanking.
 Imported_labor
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Posted: 1/19/2010 9:38:45 AM
^^^^ Since you are so interested in defending those that already have plenty of money, why don't you talk more about Wall Street.

What was the Dow Industrial average on January 20, 2009? If you don't know, I should remind you that it was around $7,000. Where is the same average one year later? I think that is over $10,500! Wow, the president must be doing a great job! A fifty percent recovery!

Now, why don't those sharks that are making out like bandits start creating jobs with their profits? Do they want us to give them more money before they will create another job? That would be very funny that we subsidize their profits even further than we have done already.

Why you insist in blaming the president for the lack of creation of jobs? Do you the government to create more government jobs? That is ridiculous!
 hard starboard
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Posted: 1/19/2010 10:26:57 AM

What was the Dow Industrial average on January 20, 2009? If you don't know, I should remind you that it was around $7,000. Where is the same average one year later? I think that is over $10,500! Wow, the president must be doing a great job! A fifty percent recovery!

Your ignorance of the stock market, as displayed in your post, is astonishing.
 Imported_labor
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Posted: 1/19/2010 1:10:52 PM

Your ignorance of the stock market, as displayed in your post, is astonishing.

Why don't you show what is wrong with the post instead of making stupid, useless remarks?
 Wookie50
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Posted: 1/19/2010 4:44:19 PM

seriously do some research instead of getting your info from The Huff.....unemployment was 7.6% when Obama took over he sold stimulus plan on the promise of keeping unemployment under 8%...right the banks failing had nothing to do with Mortgage Backed Securities....not much difference than what Obama did...concentrated most of Congresses efforts on Health Care Reform instead of the Economy while millions more Americans lost their jobs....unemployment is not going down..it will eventually cuz already 16 Million Americans are out of work...


Info would include links and specific claims would it not? Look at who I'm asking. If Obama took over at 7.6% do you really think the momentum would stop before 8%? I'm going to take a geuss and say that you are refering to the Community Reinvestment Act mortages in which you can take a look at this.


Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis
Posted by: Aaron Pressman on September 29

The Community Reinvestment Act, passed in 1977, requires banks to lend in the low-income neighborhoods where they take deposits. Just the idea that a lending crisis created from 2004 to 2007 was caused by a 1977 law is silly. But it’s even more ridiculous when you consider that most subprime loans were made by firms that aren’t subject to the CRA. University of Michigan law professor Michael Barr testified back in February before the House Committee on Financial Services that 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision and another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which are not subject to routine supervision or examinations. As former Fed Governor Ned Gramlich said in an August, 2007, speech shortly before he passed away: “In the subprime market where we badly need supervision, a majority of loans are made with very little supervision. It is like a city with a murder law, but no cops on the beat.”


http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinv.html

And no one forced the banks to turn mortgages into a Wall Street gamble.

As far as the healthcare bill goes health costs cause 60% of bankruptcies.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/05/bankruptcy.medical.bills/index.html

Sure Obama could do more on jobs but Bush and Co had no job growth compared to Clinton's 22 million.
 hard starboard
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Posted: 1/19/2010 5:37:22 PM
The stock market index levels are commonly referred to in points, not $, even though the numbers are derived from dollars. And to be frank, stating what the DJI was on the day of Obama’s swearing in is just meaningless gibberish. Besides the lows were in March, which may not be so meaningless (certainly didn’t show any confidence in the new Administration).

Stockowners are not “‘sharks making out like bandits”. They are, for the most part, normal working people saving their 401k/IRAs and investing it in mutual funds so that they can have a glimmer of hope for a halfway decent retirement and not become a ward of the State. They are your police/fire/city/state pension funds. Stock values (i.e. 401k/mutual funds) plummeted with the onslaught of the recession, a 50% recovery is hardly anything to wow about and could easily evaporate a lot faster than the whole year it took to get back where it is.

Stock prices are driven by people’s perception of the value (profitability) or decline of an individual company. While the President has no direct control over stock market levels, he and his policies can play a huge role in affecting the perceptions of those who do invest in the market. Uncertainty is not a good thing and that, so far, has defined this Administration (what’s in that health reform bill again? how much is cap and trade going to cost? Etc.)

People who invest in the stock market do not create jobs; they simply invest in companies hoping to make a profit from their investment. It’s the individual companies that create the jobs and expand using the capitalization created by selling a stake in their company as stock. A company is only going to expand and hire people if there is a profit to be made from doing so. Companies exist to make a profit, not to create jobs (those are called Charities). Creating a job is a side effect of a company’s desire to make a profit and the need for another head to make that profit. And if conditions strangle a company’s ability to make a profit then they are not going to create any jobs. That’s just life and getting mad at rich people is not going to change that.
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 1/19/2010 10:51:06 PM

"The good news for Republicans in Congress is that President Obama's approval ratings have fallen off the edge of the table," said former Republican political strategist Dan Schnur, who now heads the Jesse Unruh Institute of Politics at USC. "The bad news is that none of those numbers have transferred over to the Republicans."

Indeed, while the president's approval rating has fallen to 50 percent in CBS News polling, approval ratings for Republicans in Congress are hovering around just 30 percent.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/19/politics/main6115332.shtml


Thanks to the current unhappiness in the American heartland in difficult times, both parties are indeed fighting an uphill battle for support. If your ideological opponent is still twenty points ahead of you, that's not necessarily any indication you've captured their imagination...at least yet, anyway.
 Imported_labor
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People who invest in the stock market do not create jobs; they simply invest in companies hoping to make a profit from their investment. It’s the individual companies that create the jobs and expand using the capitalization created by selling a stake in their company as stock. A company is only going to expand and hire people if there is a profit to be made from doing so. Companies exist to make a profit, not to create jobs (those are called Charities). Creating a job is a side effect of a company’s desire to make a profit and the need for another head to make that profit. And if conditions strangle a company’s ability to make a profit then they are not going to create any jobs. That’s just life and getting mad at rich people is not going to change that.


All of that, and also the long three paragraphs before it to say nothing about the post that you were objecting to it, because you really didn't know how to object to simple data that deflates your ideological position and biased opinions about the president.

I wrote about the Dow Industrial average, which means the stocks of the largest industrial companies. Those companies make profits from producing goods and services. Their value has gone 50% during the one year that president Obama has been in office, and that is data that you can't refute. For a brief comparison, let's remember that during the Bush administration, the same average lost nearly 50% of its value.

No wonder you are trying to fabricate all kind of excuses around the issue to avoid recognizing the data as correct.

So why don't you explain how an increase of 50% in the Dow Industrial average is not clear evidence that those companies are making big profits? And by the way, also explain how the 50% increase in value is showing that the current economic environment "strangle a company’s ability to make a profit."
 hard starboard
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No wonder you are trying to fabricate all kind of excuses around the issue to avoid recognizing the data as correct.

Oh, please.

Their value has gone 50% during the one year that president Obama has been in office, and that is data that you can't refute.

I don’t refute your DJI data, it’s easy to look up. I refute your connection of the gains in that period to anything Obama has done because if there had been continuing losses during that same period, you would most surely be saying it was Bush’s fault.

So why don't you explain how an increase of 50% in the Dow Industrial average is not clear evidence that those companies are making big profits?

Just read the financials. Example: BoA just reported a loss of $5.2 billion dollars or .60 a share for the last quarter, yet BoA stock price is up .17 today. BoA stock price is up 127% in the last 12 months. If they are making big profits, why are they reporting losses?
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I got a kick out of a FOX news report today that compared the graph of Obama’s approval ratings for the year with that of the S&P500. It was interesting to see the contrast.
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Posted: 1/22/2010 9:45:13 PM
Let's see.....Afghanistan .....Bush (as you've seen me post, he didn't really have a choice on this one).

Iraq......totally Bush.



Spent & Approved War-Spending - About $800 billion of US taxpayers' funds spent or approved for spending through mid-2009, including $76 billion requested by President Obama and approved by Congress.

U.S. 2009 Monthly Spending in Iraq - $7.3 billion as of Oct 2009

U.S. 2008 Monthly Spending in Iraq - $12 billion

Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors. Also, per ABC News, 190,000 guns, including 110,000 AK-47 rifles.

Missing - $1 billion in tractor trailers, tank recovery vehicles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and other equipment and services provided to the Iraqi security forces. (Per CBS News on Dec 6, 2007.)

Mismanaged & Wasted in Iraq - $10 billion, per Feb 2007 Congressional hearings

Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion

Amount paid to KBR, a former Halliburton division, to supply U.S. military in Iraq with food, fuel, housing and other items - $20 billion

Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" - $3.2 billion

( Plus medical costs for below)

US Troops Wounded - 31,616 through September 30, 2009, 20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries. (Total excludes psychological injuries.)

US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems - 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home

US Military Helicopters Downed in Iraq - 73 total, at least 36 by enemy fire

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqNumbers.htm


Plus the cost of a lot of wear and tear on military equipment, which is a huge expense. Over 23 Abrams tanks were destroyed....at about 4.3 million US each. Add to this the incredibly high cost of gasoline for all those vehicles.

We can argue about amounts, but it is no doubt a huge number when you tally it all up.

Plus, you have to add the costs of getting those forces there, and then withdrawing them.

What crashed the US economy was deregulation, which is the mantra of the government. Thanks to the deregulation of the banking industry (and others) the greed of those companies turned banks into casinos - and this time the house lost.

If you look at Canada, which (like many/most Western democracies) kept those types of regulations in place (they were put there after the Great Depression to avoid another meltdown) they fared rather well in this regard.

All this, and a lot more, was done during the eight long years of Bush in office. If you go back and review that "Why the economy is doing so good" thread here, you will see many posters (including myself) speaking about these things long ago.


President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008.
President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts.
President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade.
President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation
President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/


That's from the Heritage Foundation, a right wing site.

While Bush was digging all these holes, and throwing taxpayers money into it....the right remained essentially silent. It was OK to do that, and that's ironic because the other mantra of the Republican manifesto is less government.

How you can wind up with less government yet a vastly increased deficit (especially in some of those "boom years" under Bush at the start) is a political feat that's quite amazing. On the other hand, Reagan did that as well. No one said a word.....

Seems the only time the right gets worried, is when a Democrat is spending money.
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
Msg: 196
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Posted: 2/16/2010 11:31:23 AM
From-
http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/6-believe-stimulus-created

6 % believe Stimulus created jobs......who are the stupid 6%????heh

FAIL… Just 6% of Americans Believe Obama’s $787 Billion Stimulus Created Jobs
Monday, February 15, 2010, 8:03 PM
Jim Hoft

In December the Obama Administration announced they had “saved or created” 1.1 million jobs.
In January the Obama Administration announced they had “saved or created” 2 million jobs.
Too bad for Obama that Americans aren’t buying his “saved or created” nonsense.

Just 6% of Americans believe the $787 “stimulus” boondoggle created any jobs according to a recent New York Times/CBS poll.
 MrLove45
Joined: 1/31/2010
Msg: 197
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Posted: 2/16/2010 4:40:57 PM
I'm sorry I mean for this one to be posted in this thread ....so :

They've spent the last year talking about Obama being a secret socialist who wants to kill grandmother, who wasn't born in the United States, who is making common cause with the terrorists because he wants to destroy America.]

If I would do a poll and only ask republicans and "independents" if they approve of Obama then I would expect the numbers to not be that great. the bottom line is they are polling him every day and for the republicans to ask why this president hasn't stayed in the high 60% approval rating is absurd....
Considering that he was actually naive enough to waste time on bipartisan pandering instead of getting hard liberal legislation passed is beyond me....
Howard Dean Mr Obama needs you man.....
 newstart1949
Joined: 6/16/2010
Msg: 198
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Posted: 6/25/2010 4:50:51 PM
not two years yet


[bold]Obama hits an all-time low in poll[\b]
By JENNIFER FERMINO
Last Updated: 10:33 AM, June 25, 2010
Posted: 1:58 AM, June 25, 2010
President Obama's approval ratings have taken a sharp turn for the worse, with more Americans than ever unhappy about his job performance and an overwhelming majority fearful the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to a poll released yesterday.
Obama's approval rating plummeted 5 percentage points from early last month, down to 45 percent, according to the Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll of 1,000 voters.
For the first time since he was elected, more Americans disapprove of Obama than approve -- with 48 percent giving him a thumbs-down. Only 45 percent approved.
Less than half -- 49 percent -- rated Obama as having "strong leadership qualities," an 8-point drop since January and a 21-point plunge from when he was first elected.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/obama_hits_an_all_time_low_in_poll_y1w4yQP8KbRG5uTxQid8iM?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=#ixzz0ruZw5t00
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 199
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Posted: 6/26/2010 6:11:03 AM
^^^^
Obama hits an all-time low in poll

Do you have an opinion? (That's kind of what we do here in the forums ... we post opinions and/or questions
seeking opinions ... NOT just copy and paste.)

I've never cared one way or the other what some poll says.

Where is the proof that those polls are in any way without prejudice?

Anyone in here ever been polled?

How many people do you know who have been polled?
 hard starboard
Joined: 6/21/2008
Msg: 200
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Posted: 6/26/2010 7:33:46 AM
^^

not two years yet

Her opinion was that in less than 2 years his approval ratings have plummeted
(at least for those who care). And they keep dropping... and dropping... and dropping...
I myself have never been polled on the question, but If I were, it still wouldn't help his
numbers any.
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