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 ZeesMuset
Joined: 10/23/2007
Msg: 57
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Don't worry about the roadtripping. A lot here do.

As for the healthcare... no you won't go to jail if you don't buy into it. You'll simply be taxed out the whazoo. For a single person making 34K, expect your premiums to go up over 4000.00. That's over a year of utilities. A family of 4 making under 70K can see their insurance premiums go up over 8000.00. I'm talking the Baucus bill. I can go on. I won't.

Add that to the amount our utilities will go up IF the energy tax is passed and the fact that Pelosi is trying to put her mitts on a lot of people's retirements and they are giving Social Security away to ever Tomas, Ricard, and Jose over here illegally and you'll see we'll ALL end up on the government Welfare Dole.

I NEED a sugar daddy... but I don't want the Government to be my sugar daddy, know what I mean? You know, Joe Wilson was right. Obama lied.
 browneyes_paul
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 58
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/14/2009 7:50:21 AM
You actually start this with: //www.dontvoteobama.net......

Shall I rest my case now or continue!

I'll continue cause I am having so much fun!

Do you actually believe that is a non biased net! Let me explain! They will tell you anything so you "DON"T VOTE OBAMA" furthermore the election was in November 2008! Barack Obama was elected president! He was inaugurated in Jan 2009 - so why would you start this in July 2009 - a mere 8 months late! Face it the "DON'T VOTE OBAMA" net lost! Did you just realize it in July 2009? Where have you been for 8 months! My conclusion is you need to get in the game - stay current - don't dwell on past failures!

I'd also recommend to others- try to stay on topic, no Canada bashing or any other sovereign country bashing, no name calling! I could say more but will stop here!
 ZeesMuset
Joined: 10/23/2007
Msg: 59
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/14/2009 6:15:18 PM
But you didn't stop!!!!! You've dug up every old thread Spacey has started.... Hmmmm... Watch MSNBC much?

first, we're not Canada bashing... we're simply making obvious comparisions... we don't like nationalized health care. We don't like a bunch of nationalized anything. The Government has a tendency to be a crappy business owner and right now, we DO have a bunch of socialists in office.

With Senators and Congressmen on record (yes I've heard them with my own two ears, imagine that) stating that the elderly cost too much to keep on their own two feet, openly embracing a health care plan that will allow 'sick' people to die, thinking most constiuents 'don't care about pork' and a lot of other rather frightening things, it's understandable that we question things. And sadly, as much as you will not like to admit it, many people quesetioning are people who voted for Obama. Many I know are now having second thoughts.

I mean - c'mon.... The White House declares war on Fox Network. Whatever happened to freedom of the press??? Sounds to me like the White House is getting a bit antsy; childish even. The Truth hurts and the truth is is Joe Wilson was right - Obama lies. He does. He swore up and down MY taxes wouldn't go up. Guess what? If all this crap he's shoving down our throats before the next election passes, my taxes will double! HE LIED!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and I'm sorry a lot of people who bought his bag of tricks are now figuring out and I suspect if we could turn back time and do it over, and the talk I'm seeing on other forums (not just here) is rather eye opening. There is nothing more pitiful than a scared Liberal with his tail tucked between his legs trying to take everything down they can.

Now, here's something for ALL of you to chew on and I'm sure Spacey and Rick can take this bad boy and run...

What the Dems have going for them, is they have the YOUNG in their pockets. I call them 'The Entitlement Generation'... I'm entitled to this, I'm entitled that, you owe me this, I deserve that... and nowhere is a work ethic involved.

Eventually, they are going to grow up - and when they grow up, they're going to think... ooooh. Wait. I EARNED this and I don't WANT to give it to some young punk... they haven't earned it yet.... We're seeing it now in the elderly who don't have children in school, so they don't want to pay taxes for school improvement and building etc... never mind when THEY were in school, the elderly paid for THEM...

So.... so what IF we have nationalized healthcare that is biased towards the elderly... NObama made sure it was in place before we could replace him in 2012. We're systematically abandoning our elderly, who have figured out and replacing them with children who think nothing of giving up the future for something now.

And we're quickly moving to the 60- 65%% tax bracket. Eventually folks, we're going to run out of rich people to rob. Business won't expand and create more jobs because they're either being taxed out the whazoo or the government runs them... and we're going to be the USSR all over again.

I won't tell you anything to keep you from voting Obama in 2012. I'll simply tell you the truth and the truth hurts. Let's be honest... if Bush (either of them) or Reagan openly cavorted with racists. terrorists, stood on a platform of crippling taxes for everyone, openly schemed to destroy the constitution, would they have been elected?

nope. Sure didn't.

Even Colin Powell has openly stated... Son, you're doing this wrong! The British Press have called Nobama a 'pantywaist'... I loved that one... and the paper that called him a pantywaist ISN"T conservative by a long shot.

So there. there it is for what it's worth. I think the Liberals are running scared so they're shooting at any target that moves. At least I know where our resident conspiracy theorist is coming from.
 browneyes_paul
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 60
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Posted: 10/14/2009 6:25:35 PM
I stopped!

I called it like I see it! If the shoe fits - wear it!

Try to stay on subject and please try to shorten your BS!
 browneyes_paul
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 61
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/15/2009 5:10:22 AM
bye guys

have fun with your 3some!
 ZeesMuset
Joined: 10/23/2007
Msg: 62
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/15/2009 9:02:59 PM
I love it when absolute strangers who have never participated on any of our more fun threads, come in, don't try to get to know our wonderful selves, and then try to tell us how to run our own board!

I told the truth. He drug up every single thread Spacey has posted to poke fun at after this one - after he said he was going to stop. typical Liberal. Hurls insults and can't discuss the facts at all!

I mean, RICK! Even you know when you discuss something, the conversation moves into related fields. how old is this one? I mean, if we stayed totally on the original post, and didn't expand the convo to take in all aspects of the post, our conversation tree would go up like...

I better hush. Someone might complain.

Besides, I'd rather have my BS than his BO.
 browneyes_paul
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 63
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Posted: 10/16/2009 8:09:53 AM
I love it when you love it! So you noticed my profile pic! Absolute strangers - Hey I have been in forums a whole week now! Please tell me where the fun forum threads are - I do so want to participate in them! Come in - these are open forums! I don't need to get to know you to make posts! You must be kidding - where have I ever tried to tell you how to run - oh they arn't yours - you just think they are!

I am so happy to know that you read my previous post and shorten the BS!

FYI - what I say in one thread does not apply to all threads - thats known as cross threading and its not allowed.

Whose the typical liberal?

I don't hurl! I'm a hurlbacker!

I can't keep you on the facts long enought to discuss!

Conversations don't move - people move them! A thread is as old as its last post!

Conversation tree would go up like... what ..... smoke..... I think it did!

Please by all means continue - Im not a complainer!

I showered with soap - I guess its me!
 browneyes_paul
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 64
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/16/2009 8:12:16 AM
Stop looking in that mirror!
 browneyes_paul
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 65
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/16/2009 8:17:58 AM
Before yall attack me or bash me or gang up on me or call me something Im not!

Take this into consdieration!

I have completed one week in the forums and I have decided not to continue with them! They are not for me! They are not what I thought they were! I do not want to waste any more of my time in them. This will be my last post in the forums!

Good luck to all of you! May God bless you and May God bless America!
 ZeesMuset
Joined: 10/23/2007
Msg: 66
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/17/2009 6:27:35 PM
The only posts you've made have been argumentive, bashing, rude, and goading. You didn't introduce yourself, you didn't check out any of our other threads... instead, you went after ONE member, and dug up old threads that had been silent for weeks... months.... and you goaded him.

You were rude, condenscending, belligerent. You have no tolerance for views that do not match yours, you have no tolerance for differing opinions, you're quite unable to defend yourself or explain yourself in a genteel and dignified manner. Instead, you've become surly, whiney... just what I'm looking for in a man... NOT!

So now you've decided as you're the 'lone voice of reason' the forums are not for you. Well, that's your decision. Sorry we weren't socialist enough for your tastes. Sorry but we accept Spacey for who he is. Sorry but we accept you for who you are. Why you can't you accept us for who we are?

Man. We need a bonfire to roast weenies and marshmellows.....
 notmeinsc
Joined: 9/20/2009
Msg: 67
Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 10/26/2009 4:28:28 PM
Typical signs of liberalism disease. No cure for it.
 nfultonlawyer
Joined: 1/22/2008
Msg: 68
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Posted: 11/18/2009 10:19:16 PM
You are a stupid f**king redneck. Do you believe everything your read, or hear. I know, if it's on the Internet it must be true.
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
Msg: 69
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Posted: 11/19/2009 7:37:26 PM
Wow ,I have never seen a thread as this one,It starts with an incorrect story of the presidents genealogy,it takes almost no research to disprove it,OP just bought into some bad information,sometimes these magazine/or online stories seem factual when in fact they are not at all.It gets 4 posts in and from that point post 5 derails the entire topic and then the next 78 posts are about health care,oddly enough no one cares that the topic here claimed the leader of the free world supports the killing of Black Christians,no one found that odd or interesting .83 posts in, a cursing lawyer goes back on track and bluntly makes you all aware the OPs topic is false .Health cares a fine topic,so out of my curiosity why not join one of the health care threads in progress or start a new one. Why did no one find the OPs topic uninteresting ?
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
Msg: 70
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Posted: 11/19/2009 10:35:05 PM

Why did no one find the OPs topic uninteresting ?
Dang typos,meant to say,Why did no one find the OPs topic "interesting" ?
 Rebel333
Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 71
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Posted: 11/21/2009 10:22:25 AM

Wow ,I have never seen a thread as this one,It starts with an incorrect story of the presidents genealogy,it takes almost no research to disprove it,OP just bought into some bad information,sometimes these magazine/or online stories seem factual when in fact they are not at all.It gets 4 posts in and from that point post 5 derails the entire topic and then the next 78 posts are about health care,oddly enough no one cares that the topic here claimed the leader of the free world supports the killing of Black Christians,no one found that odd or interesting .83 posts in, a cursing lawyer goes back on track and bluntly makes you all aware the OPs topic is false .Health cares a fine topic,so out of my curiosity why not join one of the health care threads in progress or start a new one. Why did no one find the OPs topic uninteresting ?


It appears that it was interesting enough for you to come in and post.
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
Msg: 72
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Posted: 11/21/2009 11:28:06 AM

It appears that it was interesting enough for you to come in and post.
Absolutely, its very interesting,perhaps you read my post wrong though, the thought was how could everyone do 78 posts ignoring an interesting topic like this ! Thats why I stated this thread is very unique ! Ya got the prez accused of being in cahoots killing black Christians and all thats here in health reform debate !Its huge,like bringing up Martians land in NYC then going into NYC zoning issues instead !
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
Msg: 73
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Posted: 11/21/2009 5:36:46 PM

Could be because nobody would put anything past dear leader and his family. He loves the thought of killing babies so much, maybe his murderous instinct is just an inherited trait in his family.
I was hoping for sound logic,perhaps even facts,but I don't ever hear much of that coming from most of the right ! So basically your actually stating Obama comes from a family that has murderous instinct.Its remarks like this topic matter and your response as why your side takes more heat than they deserve .
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
Msg: 74
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Posted: 11/22/2009 8:41:06 AM
Its sad that when bigoted stories happen like the OPs story came into print, that some of those that we have to discuss with, will not be the opponents level headed thinkers,it will be sometimes the type that would buy into the bigoted story in the first place,types that say stuff like
run-of-the-mill liberal puke
I have read other posts of yours.You seem unable to carry on a conversation without name calling.
We'll see how long your socialist heroes can hold on to power.
Since you have the market cornered on name calling,what did you you call the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield administration that caused all this problem you see.Maybe they were good names,maybe you appreciated there war of WMD started by conning the country they had them,maybe you enjoyed that they tortured,took away right to counsel,did illegal wiretapping,had torturous black sites,stripped whom they felt like of constitutional rights,logged for profit in federally protected forests,wanted to drill in federally protected waters.Stripped away geneticists right to continue their work in this country.Decided not to repair our power grids ,water supplies,roads,bridges,dams,dikes.They felt money to war was better,let the next president fix the plumbing,besides you have any idea how many hundreds of billions it costs the fix the grid,Bush,says,that would make my budget look bad,which also is why his budget never included to war costs.That keeps the number low.the same numbers thrown at Obama !

Who knows, you might of liked all that rogue stuff !
 Rebel333
Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 75
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Posted: 11/22/2009 5:22:34 PM
^^^I’m not one to defend any politician normally but I get tired of the liberals that whine about Bush and his war predicated on WMD. At the time this happened Saddam was thumbing his nose at the world and refusing to allow UN inspectors to do their jobs. Most of the world believed that he (Saddam) had or was about to have WMD’s. Still no one was willing to take action as their countries would not be the targets. The USA might very well have been. So he (Bush) made a decision based on the information at hand. What name would you be using for him had he not acted and Saddam did have WMD’s and used them on us?

And hey aren’t you the same guy that was just whining about people not staying on subject?
 Rebel333
Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 76
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Posted: 11/22/2009 5:28:56 PM
And further more all you care about is the monetary cost of the war? No mention of the lives lost?
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
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Posted: 11/22/2009 5:57:01 PM

I get tired of the liberals that whine about Bush and his war predicated on WMD.
I too am tired of the right that refuse to admit it common knowledge now they knew then there was no proof of WMD.


At the time this happened Saddam was thumbing his nose at the world and refusing to allow UN inspectors to do their jobs. Most of the world believed that he (Saddam) had or was about to have WMD’s.
First off so he thumbed his nose ,what had he to do with the 9/11 trasgedy,what Bin Ladewn was there ?If we were to war with the 9/11 people then we should have been in Saudi Arabia"the 19 hijackers, along with information about the possible nationalities and aliases of many.[78] Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon." Sure I bought in to that bin Laden was in Afghanistan,great ,lets get him! Where is the cost of the war the issue,its the reason and logic of war,Bin Laden first then see if we go further !How Saddam popped into the picture is a mystery


What name would you be using for him had he not acted and Saddam did have WMD’s
Hey my friend if we had got Bin Laden then go further,as for his WMD we disagree he didn't know,there a factual content that states there was not proof at the time of the start of war,so we disagree,thats fine !

hey aren’t you the same guy that was just whining about people not staying on subject?
You do like that word whine,fine ,if discussing is how you mean whining ,fine,when in Rome !

Look I asked why and by the second rebuttal it was offtrack not by me but by a name caller insinuating incorrect info in mmy opinion.So I then setting myself right is off track,ok,then I did,then you asked all these questions or made statements off track,and by answering them ,then yes,true I am one of those off track,if this is explaining what happened to the original OP thread,very good point you made,its easy to find ones self off track.Happens all the time on Obama threads usually though its momentary and 3 to 6 posts later back on track,this one stayed off 78 posts.

Anyways I guess its as simple as you all realized the OPs story he read somewhere was pure bull,so you all were smart enough to not see the need to comment further than the first page,rarely on an Obama thread does intelligence stop it,before the redundancy happens first for 20 pages more.Sounds like health care discussion started and snowballed,its a fine topic.Hey join in on one of the many health care ones in progress,others opinions ,concerns or facts greatly appreciated.
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
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Posted: 11/22/2009 6:09:33 PM
Forgot to mention,since you stated all I care about is the money spent on war,not even a little true,I am worried about our kids lives and that the fight is a correct one and none of it is a lie ,and its a noble cause like when we started in Afghanistan going after Bin Laden,thats when it was on focus and correct,my niece is in the Air Force as we speak.

The money point was that many on the right states Obamas spending is far greater than Bushes,I explained one reason for that was Bush spent very little on our infrastructure as did other presidents so now that all of it is failing, Obama is fixing a lot of it, and as with the war budget ,its very common knowledge Bush did not add the cost of the war in his budget figures,thats why the spending is so extremely different between Obama and Bush in those areas.
 Rebel333
Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 79
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Posted: 11/22/2009 7:10:04 PM
I don't know that we have any more proof that Bin Laden is in Afghanistan than we had proof of WMD's when we went into Iraq. Still it seems that you support this action and are willing to pay those costs in money and lives. And if we find Bin Laden I'll also be supportive. But if not should I take the tract that it was a wrong effort?

One thing that does bother me is when all people want to discuss about this war is the monetary cost. Your niece and her brothers and sisters over there deserve so much more than that.


<div class='quote'>its a noble cause like when we started in Afghanistan going after Bin Laden Are you not aware that Bin Laden was in Iraq when we first attacked?
 ZeesMuset
Joined: 10/23/2007
Msg: 80
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Posted: 12/1/2009 5:41:16 PM
It's my understanding at one point Saddaam DID have WMD and part of the agreement for us not ripping him a new one after Kuwait was to allow inspections. He didn't keep his side of the bargain, which IMO is pretty stupid.

Second what did Saddaam have to do with 9/11? He financed it. Aided them... helped train them... Terrorists come from everywhere, not just ONE place...

Not to mention, he was one of those men who just needed to die.

Now I'm sure there are a few people I just made cringe... and there are people on this board who know why I stand on THAT issue the way I do...

I'm a public school teacher. My first three years teaching, I taught elementary music in the Metro Atlanta area. 25% of our very large population were war refugees. Somolians, Bosnians and Kurds. (This would be before 9/11)

OF all of my children, our Kurdish children were the most damaged. I had a kindergardener who had personally WITNESSED the slaughter of every male in her family, as well as the rape of women over the age of 9 in her family as well by Saddaam's army. We couldn't touch her, make any 'sudden' moves... nothing loud. I never say her smile or play and by God, she was ROBBED of her childhood by that man.

He needed to die.

So no. I won't feel bad about going in and taking him out. Nope.
 imalwayssmiling
Joined: 7/17/2009
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Posted: 12/1/2009 6:03:58 PM

He needed to die.

So no. I won't feel bad about going in and taking him out. Nope.
This has nothing to do with Odinga so I hope we get back on track,but I so agree with you ,he needed to die I am so glad he and his boys are dead and Senior Bush should have done just that,he had him in his sights and chose to let him go,we could have took him out then.This reminds me of the multiple (4) cop killer killed today,had the beast that as as youth earned himself over 100 years of prison time had not been pardoned had been left in prison to rot we would have 4 police officers alive,I come from a family of cops and it hits home,we knew that kid was a beast thats why he got over 100 years.Saddam was the same,we knew it,he was no mystery to us,we knew his record,Senior Bush went in to get him,and dropped the ball and a man that was known with such a record of pain and hurt was allowed to kill again for years and all the lives of those tortured and all our boys and girls in Iraq (My niece is in Air Force)perhaps need not be in that war had Senior Bush done what he had gone into do in the first place.Call me mad but how hard would it to have been to have sent in a sniper and offed his butt,and then no one made the claim of who did it.Am I upset with both Bushes,yes, and why junior,first he flew out the whole Laden family when every plane was grounded ,every plane in the country,but Ladens fly out,odd huh,and who do cops first interview when someone is murdered when you know the murderer ,his family,cops don't fly them out of the country so they can't be grilled,and then I'm upset because we had Bin Laden in our gun sights and like his father he decided to not take him out,the rest is history and we will spend hundreds and hundreds of billions getting him in our sights again,how many will die before then?
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