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 RenaissanceMan1950
Joined: 2/20/2009
Msg: 101
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Message 91 (gaddflye) ...
In response to Cotter's post what I find is many women over 50 suffer from AV, atrophying vagina, and are no longer interested in sex.
I don't know if you are trying to be funny, but vaginal atrophy is a series of natural changes which take place in the vagina as women age and their estrogen levels decrease. It has less to do with "interest" in sex and a lot to do with lack of hormone production after menopause. That can mean having sex could be quite painful (which no doubt probably contributes to lack of interest ... eh?).



Cotter-As estrogen production declines, the tissues in the vagina become dry, thin, and shrunken. This can cause aches and pains, and it tends to make intercourse unpleasant because suitable lubrication is not available.

Amazing isn't it ... the women are basically not at fault


It's not a matter of "fault". The only "fault" I'd see would be if a woman knows that a man is interested in her, in anticipation of a "normal" relationship, and she withholds the information, while enjoying the attention, affection, etc.. all the while knowing that she will never "go there", because it's too painful.

It's not anybody's fault that all sorts of health conditions might exist that make sex impossible. However, it is wrong for them not to seek out "just friends", perhaps with similar or complementary types of issues, rather than ensnare others who expect things to progress towards an actual relationship, that would include having a sex life.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 8/8/2009 8:18:16 AM


what I find is many women over 50 suffer from AV, atrophying vagina ...

The above condition is very easy to remedy with proper diet and working those muscles.
Vaginal dryness and atrophy is NOT caused by "celibacy" ... ... or all teenage girls would never be able to have sex ... eh? After all, they are celibate until they have their "first" sexual encounter ... right?

The body DOES NOT produce hormones (the lack of which is the major cause for vaginal dryness and NOT celibacy) based on diet or exercising muscles. The condition can be reversed in many cases by the use of Hormone Replacement Therapy (pill forms, vaginal creams, and even patches) if the therapy is started in time ... before too much damage has already occurred.


As for men with ED work your core muscles and try and simulate the
"plank position "
No amount of any kind of "special" exercises will "repair" the neuropathy caused by Diabetes ... it's "Autonomic" and sometimes "Focal" or a combination thereof.

Once the damage is done ... there are medications that can assist with achieving an erection and maintaining an erection, but one cannot "repair" nerve damage with cute "special" exercises. The nerves have been (most likely) damaged by years of the disease being present in their body.

All men have Estrogen in their bodies, and most overweight men have no idea what they're doing to themselves by getting and maintaining that extra belly fat ... it causes extra production of Estrogen. Does anyone know what Estrogen injections do to a man who is (for example) attempting a sexual change? Uh-huh ... it produces breasts (man boobs?) and basically STOPS the erections!!!


Well hormonal levels for men could be helped with testosterone could they not?
Yes they could, but they have also discovered that giving men extra testosterone (usually in gels spread on their upper cavity or in patches worn on their upper cavity) contributes to men losing their hair (more quickly) and also "feeds" prostate cancer in older men.

The hair loss does not concern me, but the loss of my partner due to the cancer is not something I would look forward to.

As for women I do not think hormone levels play as big factor. In fact when I went through the change in my 30's my hormone levels were checked it showed I was almost male. My testosterone levels were very very high ...
Which means your Estrogen levels were probably bottoming out and that's what causes the vaginal dryness and then the atrophy also sets in. As I said above, women have a chance of reversing it in a variety of ways, but often the atrophy spreads to the urethral area and that damage cannot be undone.

The only "fault" I'd see would be if a woman knows that a man is interested in her, in anticipation of a "normal" relationship, and she withholds the information, while enjoying the attention, affection, etc.. all the while knowing that she will never "go there", because it's too painful.
That's absolutely right!!! I totally agree!!! And I actually do know women who really are not looking to do anything but date around ... with no intention of ever having sex again. I think it would be very unfair for them to lead men on.

It's not anybody's fault that all sorts of health conditions might exist that make sex impossible.
That statement is not entirely true, only because we do have control over diet, and weight gain and lifestyles which is a major factor in what causes many of our health issues that do lead to problems with sex ... down the road ... later in life.

OT ...
I'm not in favor of medical history discussions on the first few dates, but on the other hand, once one discovers where a perspective relationship may be leading ... then if there might be problems, I think it should be disclosed. If for no other reason but to give the perspective partner a chance to re-think their postion.
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 8/8/2009 8:21:58 AM

It's not anybody's fault that all sorts of health conditions might exist that make sex impossible. However, it is wrong for them not to seek out "just friends", perhaps with similar or complementary types of issues, rather than ensnare others who expect things to progress towards an actual relationship, that would include having a sex life.


OMG this does not make things impossible!!!! I am shaking my head here in complete disbelief.. This is most certainly not a doomsday prognosis and to throw in the towel on it!!!

Just get yourself a donut cause you might not be able to sit down for a week.. You might even have to consider applying ice packs to reduce the swelling cause you might well feel like you were in a boxing match. Be ready with some ice because you can become so swollen you might not be able to urinate properly..

Just another challenge and one that can be dealt with very successfully..

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 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 8/8/2009 10:04:15 AM
Cats, you're right it's not doomsday. . . .IF the person *wants* to do something about it. But I know peeps of both the feminine persuasion and the masculine one who seem to be resigned, content, and in some cases absolutely delighted, not to have to have anything to do wit' dat bidness any more. It's surely not me, nor obviously most here, but it seems to me to be a large and growing cohort.

My EX who belongs to the content contingent dated a woman for about 15 years who belongs to the delighted faction. They did very well together, until she decided she wanted to travel, and he didn't. She then married an 82 year old man who did want to *travel* and till death did them part.

To each, his/her own. . . . Just be upfront about the deal, eh?

 eschec mat
Joined: 3/3/2009
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Posted: 8/8/2009 10:25:37 AM
Cats, you're right it's not doomsday. . . .IF the person *wants* to do something about it. But I know peeps of both the feminine persuasion and the masculine one who seem to be resigned, content, and in some cases absolutely delighted, not to have to have anything to do wit' dat bidness any more.
Having gone to red hat events, I know there are mixed reactions from the post men. women. Ummmm maybe that was a bad abbreviation But honestly some are post men too. Some enjoy the company of females because they don't have to worry about a man trying to go any farther. Some enjoy the company of men because they want to share with a man. Some want the whole ball of wax with a man.

I knew one man that had a pump. Didn't get off, but still wanted to have sex. His wife divorced him. She didn't dig the pump among other things.

My mom's husband was quite large and developed diabetes, hbp etc. and had to take medication. My mom was pissed when he came home with a blue pill one day. He died of a heart attack at like 54. My mom was 64 at the time. Her husband before that drank excessive beer. He had a heart attack that I witnessed. He still wanted to drink beer after he got home from having bypasses.

Personally, I can deal with quite a few things, but an inflexible man, a man with a large belly, forget it. I still enjoy sex and different positions. I think it is part of your preferences.

I am curious about the urethra comment, as the purpose of it is to urinate. I don't understand the comment about drying to that point. It is my understanding that vaginal dryness would effect the whole vagina and not start one area and stop another. That most of the wetness actually is formed internally and needs to be brought down or outside. That if you require additional lubrication, it would be for the whole area, not just the opening.

I have also never heard of AV. I thought that was a joke, something someone made up. I didn't google it, but since I am posting, please explain that. I can see muscles atrophying, but a vagina???
 *mae* flowers
Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 106
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Posted: 8/8/2009 11:20:39 AM
imo, the health issues would be with ones own heart and soul,the ones who look forward to each day would be my only health concern with a prospective partner.

I love and admire positive people who feel life with all the senses. Unafraid to be not perfect,to be human, and love and be loved


...Ah Jim. What can I say? What can I add? You said it perfectly. That kind of thing warms my heart......It also makes me wonder why people like you are still single.


As for *theirs* -- so far no deal breakers. If the soul is in good shape, and we're hitting on all cylinders, who gives a rat's patootie?

I feel sad sometime for those that hoard their hoped for happiness against all threats: there IS no wisdom in "security."


..And wooby...you have no idea how much I admire you. You are my ideal role model. I aspire to be just like you.

...maeflowers
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 8/8/2009 11:33:56 AM

have also never heard of AV. I thought that was a joke, something someone made up. I didn't google it, but since I am posting, please explain that. I can see muscles atrophying, but a vagina???


As we age, the pelvic floor muscles weaken, shrink and atrophy from disuse. If not in an active relatioship important to work those muscles!!! Symptoms include pelvic pain, bladder dysfunction, lack of sexual response, pain with intercourse, and lower back discomfort.

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 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
Msg: 108
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Posted: 8/8/2009 12:19:45 PM

IF the person *wants* to do something about it. But I know peeps of both the feminine persuasion and the masculine one who seem to be resigned, content, and in some cases absolutely delighted, not to have to have anything to do wit' dat bidness any more. It's surely not me, nor obviously most here, but it seems to me to be a large and growing cohort.


Oh I know a few that are also resigned as well and appear delighted at their decision. However even that can change as I have seen it happen.. I agree that it does seem to more common today that I believe it was years ago.

If not interested indeed be upfront about it.. but consider that not written in stone either. Tomorrow can be a new day and feelings can and do change.

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 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 8/9/2009 2:08:39 AM

I am curious about the urethra comment, as the purpose of it is to urinate. I don't understand the comment about drying to that point. It is my understanding that vaginal dryness would effect the whole vagina and not start one area and stop another.



I have also never heard of AV. I thought that was a joke, something someone made up. I didn't google it, but since I am posting, please explain that. I can see muscles atrophying, but a vagina???

As we age, the pelvic floor muscles weaken, shrink and atrophy from disuse. If not in an active relatioship important to work those muscles!!!
Sigh ... once again, vaginal atrophy has to do with mucous membranes drying out (NOT muscle tissue) ... which is a result of lack of hormones causing the mucous membranes to dry up ... and the urethra is included in that. That's why I posted that ... "often the atrophy spreads to the urethral area" ... because it does and when the urethra atrophies (shrivels up) it's obviously going to affect your ability to urinate (empty the bladder).

Sorry, no amount of those "cute" muscle exercises will affect the "mucous membranes" that are affected by the lack of hormones in our bodies after menopause. No amount of those "cute" muscle exercises keeps mucous membranes from drying up if the hormones are not present.

http://www.micronutra.com/journal/ed/overweight-men-are-more-likely-to-have-ed
Overweight Men Are More Likely to Have ED

Eighty percent of men with ED are either overweight or obese. While this may be due in part to the elevated risk of high blood pressure, arteriosclerosis, and diabetes, the relationship between overweight and ED holds true even in otherwise healthy individuals.

One theory is that the disruption of hormonal balance that occurs as a result of obesity may cause insufficient androgens (testosterone and related molecules) to be available to achieve or sustain an erection. Another theory posits that the elevated oxidative stress and resultant chronic inflammation caused by obesity may damage the cells lining the blood vessels, known as endothelials. These damaged cells then contribute to the development of ED.

The Benefits of Exercise

Population rates for ED begin to go up by about five percent a year after the age of forty-five. However, in men who exercise regularly, there is a ten-year delay in the onset of ED. This prompted researchers to examine the possibility of exercise reversing the effects of ED.

Working with men who were overweight or obese and had ED, but no other health problems, researchers found that losing weight through diet and exercise helped restore erectile function.

In one out of every three participants, a ten percent weight reduction was all it took to completely restore erectile function. The rest of the men only saw improvements following more significant weight loss, but in the end, all the participants noted a positive impact on their erectile health once they lost weight.


http://www.howtogetsixpack.com/stomach-fat-problems.html
Stomach Fat Risks for Men and Women

It is commonly considered that men are at greater risk of health problems related to belly fat since men tend to collect more abdominal fat than women.

Some studies suggest that men have more coronary disease than women and those who have excess stomach fat are most at risk for the so called "all-cause mortality" (that is early death from any cause). Erectile dysfunction is also considered to be related to excess abdominal fat.
So guys ... try your best to keep off the belly fat!!!!!

OT ...
The first few dates are not the setting for discussing things as above with a perspective partner, but even the fact that we may at some point need to have that discussion, should cause us to take note and just not let it come to that.
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 5:11:36 AM

Which means your Estrogen levels were probably bottoming out and that's what causes the vaginal dryness and then the atrophy also sets in. As I said above, women have a chance of reversing it in a variety of ways, but often the atrophy spreads to the urethral area and that damage cannot be undone.


Interesting.. not sure how I reversed it other than eating a very healthy diet and doing my excercises.. At any rate glad I managed to without taking any hormones.

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 RenaissanceMan1950
Joined: 2/20/2009
Msg: 111
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Posted: 8/9/2009 5:41:15 AM
While it may be "interesting" to some to dissect the reasons that some people become sexually dysfunctional, that's not really the topic.

The topic was about how health issues affect choosing someone to start dating in the first place. While there are some on here, who post as if they were Mother Teresa, and it all sounds wonderful and "politically correct", I have to wonder how many people actually would choose to begin with someone with a serious health issue.

I know that I wouldn't begin something new with someone, who has a serious health issue that affects her ability to function in a relationship. That would include sexual dysfunction, but there are a lot of other things too. I would not start dating someone with a terminal cancer, as an example. I have dated cancer survivors, though, who were in remission. I wouldn't start dating someone with a serious disability, and I try really hard not to date someone who has a serious mental or emotional disorder, although it has happened.

Being a friend to someone, who has a serious health issue? Sure, I'd do that. I could imagine being a "pen pal" with a lonely woman, who has a terminal diagnosis. I think remaining in a relationship, if someone you're already involved with suddenly comes down with a disease or suffers a disability. You're already attached at that point. But, to begin something new....no way.
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:28:06 AM

Sorry, no amount of those "cute" muscle exercises will affect the "mucous membranes" that are affected by the lack of hormones in our bodies after menopause. No amount of those "cute" muscle exercises keeps mucous membranes from drying up if the hormones are not present.


No but making dishes using Flax seed sure will. I finally found the answer and I had a gut feeling it had to do with my diet.
Flax seed: Helps with vaginal dryness and the overall environment of your vagina. I make crusts out of flax seed, I also use it as a breading on some of my veggie dishes..

Too often we find out some of these hormones cause cancer a more holistic approach in my books is far safer and you can reap the benefits..

thecatsmeoww
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:30:57 AM

While it may be "interesting" to some to dissect the reasons that some people become sexually dysfunctional, that's not really the topic.


As far as my understand of this thread goes we are discussing health issues as well as finding a partner at our age. There has been a lot of good input on this thread as far as being helpful to those that may or may not be experiencing problems. It certainly has motivated me to look more into topics that I might not have otherwise.

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 eschec mat
Joined: 3/3/2009
Msg: 114
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:34:18 AM
Cotter thank you for explaining that. Thank you cat also. I am not even pre peri according to my doctor ie still on bcp's. But ya know my bf is 10 years younger, so figure I should be having sex for some time and really never heard of the atrophy before. It isn't something ever discussed as far as I have seen. This is a health issue and it would be important to discuss with someone you are involved with and seems it is totally on topic. Getting a bit tired of reading people stating that their comments that are off topic about weather or old outdated theories in other threads are ok to be off topic but they complain about a thread about health issues where a health matter is being fully described is off topic. I think any health issue discussed in this thread to be totally on topic, because that explains why and when you might discuss it with a partner. geez...

On another thread I mentioned that I learn from these threads. I know my doctor never brought this up and still hasn't given me any information about pre or peri menopause. I know I'm not there, but gosh, these are things we need to know about and as it can effect our partner, seems they are important topics to learn about the same as ED.

Recently I was reading about abdominal fat because there is a thread about beer bellies. Fat is fat, but abdominal fat is really bad. Abdominal fat is visceral fat. Visceral fat cells release their metabolic products directly into the blood, so free fatty acids from visceral fat accumulate in the liver and other organs. This impairs the body’s regulation of insulin, blood sugar, and cholesterol and leads to heart problems. Of course ED is a side effect. I say I won't go out with a guy that has a belly any more, it seems that I was correct about the connection between the possibility of poor health and abdominal fat. The belly is a bit more obvious than the women's atrophy problem.

I also noted that there is a misconception that having a belly and being thin isn't a problem, it is also.

I think we should all be born with personal trainers so that we can work on our problem areas...in my dreams.

I am glad that I don't have to have another talk about my challenges with another date, hopefully ever. Now if I could get the jerks that think they are parking police to back off with their looks, unappreciated questions/nosy questions, and obnoxious comments.
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
Msg: 115
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:46:11 AM
Vaginal Dryness

Black cohosh
Used for relief from vaginal dryness and hot flushes.

Wild and Mexican yam:
Helps with hormonal imbalance since they present estrogenic and progestational properties.

Many women respond very well to daily intake of whole soy foods, which are high in isoflavones and lignans known to be helpful for vaginal dryness. One particularly good option is Revival Soy.
While soy and flaxseed contain some of the highest levels of phytonutrients helpful for vaginal dryness, there are many other foods that contain phytoestrogens which, by mimicking the body’s natural estrogens, serve as a buffer when levels fluctuate. Adding these foods to your diet could give you the extra little hormone boost you need. Foods high in phytoestrogens include soy, other legumes, nuts, apples, celery, cherries, flaxseed, and many more. As always, eating a diet rich and varied in plant foods helps balance your hormones, and it’s one of the easiest ways to treat vaginal dryness!

Giving your body the highest level of nutritional support available is always a good idea, no matter what symptoms you’re experiencing. Your body simply cannot function
normally or heal itself without the necessary ingredients. In the case of vaginal dryness, vitamin A, beta carotene, and B vitamins are particularly helpful. We know also that
omega-3 essential fatty acids support healthy cell membranes and hormonal balance.

Bingo bingo bingo

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 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 8/9/2009 12:18:54 PM
Alrighty then ... "cat" ... great post.

I do believe that between the two of us we are helping a lot of women (who may be reading but just not posting) about something that should concern us because apparently it also concerns our partners when they want sex and we just don't feel like it ... for whatever reason.

I know that's not a problem with me as I have been on my HRT since 1985 when I had to have my hysterectomy and had no choice but to have the HRT. Since the presence of Estrogen in our bodies also keeps us from soaking the calcium OUT of our bones (later in life), we actually need to find some way to maintain Estrogen levels ... whether by tablet form or holistically with the things mentioned in the above post.

A lot of women don't realize that the loss of Estrogen contributes to Osteoporosis, but also brittle bones which means you could break an ankle or foot just by jumping down too hard on your foot ... even stepping off a curb the wrong way.

http://www.sheknows.com/articles/806892.htm

Women/Post-menopausal women
:
Females are born with smaller, less dense bones than men, and recent studies suggest adult females only get half of their RDA of calcium. It’s also known that estrogen helps protect bones from calcium loss, meaning that after menopause, low estrogen levels leave women even more vulnerable to calcium loss.

Finding a way to add Calcium and Vitamin D to your diet as well as the exercises that cat has been encouraging ... will maintain bones ... help you avoid getting that stooped over look as well ... makes us more appealing to men as we age.
 RenaissanceMan1950
Joined: 2/20/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 12:26:25 PM
Is this the gynecology thread? Just asking.
 Molly Maude
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Posted: 8/9/2009 1:11:03 PM
I sure don't mention health issues ... I mean ... I ASSUME there will be SOME health issues at our decrepit advanced ages!

but for an opening ... I don't intend to LEAD with health issues ... now ... if he looks like a KEEPER ... THEN I'd be interested in knowing potential health issues ... if we're thinking a more physical relationship, I'd CERTAINLY want to know about any potential STDs !!! or any other communicable illness!

I had a "meet/greet" with a man who looked considerably older than his photo ... whose profile INSISTED and, in person, he ASSURED me repeatedly that he was in "Perfect Health" ... while intermittently drowsing off to sleep ... after a minute or three, he'd rouse himself and act as tho there'd been no interruption in the conversation ... once, he almost fell into his food ... so he's PROBABLY not a keeper ... there's no reason to discuss health issues with someone like this cuz ... 1st off, he lies ... and 2ndly, I don't CARE ... because he lies ...

I'm looking to find someone with whom I can have a magical connection ... I don't ANTICIPATE that ... but I'm not gonna water down any potential magic by discussing health issues!
 Molly Maude
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Posted: 8/9/2009 1:22:17 PM
I sure don't mention health issues ... I mean ... I ASSUME there will be SOME health issues at our decrepit advanced ages!

but for an opening ... I don't intend to LEAD with health issues ... now ... if he looks like a KEEPER ... THEN I'd be interested in knowing potential health issues ... if we're thinking a more physical relationship, I'd CERTAINLY want to know about any potential STDs !!! or any other communicable illness!

I had a "meet/greet" with a man who looked considerably older than his photo ... whose profile INSISTED and, in person, he ASSURED me repeatedly that he was in "Perfect Health" ... while intermittently drowsing off to sleep ... after a minute or three, he'd rouse himself and act as tho there'd been no interruption in the conversation ... once, he almost fell into his food ... so he's PROBABLY not a keeper ... there's no reason to discuss health issues with someone like this cuz ... 1st off, he lies ... and 2ndly, I don't CARE ... because he lies ...

P.S. answering the original post here, not the ones about vaginal dryness, etc ... not that they're not interesting ... they are!
I'm looking to find someone with whom I can have a magical connection ... I don't ANTICIPATE that ... but I'm not gonna water down any potential magic by discussing health issues!
 RenaissanceMan1950
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Posted: 8/9/2009 1:27:03 PM

. I ASSUME there will be SOME health issues at our decrepit advanced ages!


The following is a complete list of my health issues:





I don't think that being in one's late 50's means that one should assume "health issues". I am on no prescription drugs, and other than a rare "ache" or "pain", don't feel much different than I did at 30. In fact, I weigh what I did at 30, have the same amount of hair on my head, etc..
 eschec mat
Joined: 3/3/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 1:42:14 PM
Oh don't forget that muscle does decrease as we get older, so weight isn't an accurate measure of your health and fitness. Muscle weighs more than fat, so if you loose muscle and gain fat, you actually gain more fat. And if you saw my post above, it doesn't matter how thin you are, if you have belly fat, you could have problems.

I am sure you do go to the doctor regularly and get all the necessary tests including STD testing. I wish I was as lucky as you Ren!

Personally I wish I didn't have to go to the doctor every 6 months. But I guess keeping my cholesterol in check will be a life long struggle as I don't want to go back on meds. I see the problems my big bro faces/has and the medication he takes at 52. I don't want that to be me.

Thanks again about the post about menopause etc. because I can't do weight bearing and probably should ask my dr. how much calcium supplement I should take now.

To me telling my bf about my cholesterol and watching my diet is important/was because he is a good cook, but he never has had to watch oils, butters, etc.

EDIT TO BELOW: You missed my " I wish I was as lucky as you Ren!" I am sure many people wish they didn't have to worry about talking to someone before you meet about health issues.
 RenaissanceMan1950
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Posted: 8/9/2009 1:49:17 PM

Oh don't forget that muscle does decrease as we get older, so weight isn't an accurate measure of your health and fitness. Muscle weighs more than fat, so if you loose muscle and gain fat, you actually gain more fat. And if you saw my post above, it doesn't matter how thin you are, if you have belly fat, you could have problems.

I am sure you do go to the doctor regularly and get all the necessary tests including STD testing.


No, I'm not as toned as I was as a Varsity athlete in high school, but I do floor exercises and hand weights, so as to maintain some abdominal and bicep muscles. So, if not having "6 pack abs" is a health issue, then "guilty". I have a 33" waist, and a 32" inseam, so I am striving for a 32" waist. I never claimed "perfection", merely good general health.

I do go to the doctor for an annual check up, and my cholesterol is fine. I am also tested annually for STDs, just to be on the safe side. I don't go every 6 months, and I rarely get sick, so it is just that one time a year.

I'm not an atypical 59 year old man. Most people, who make any effort to stay in shape, are reasonably healthy. I don't ask for anything that I don't bring to the table as part of my "offer".
 Phoebe48
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Posted: 8/9/2009 2:11:20 PM
I think we should all be born with personal trainers so that we can work on our problem areas...in my dreams.


A girlfriend and I were just talking about this very thing this morning. Have you seen those hunks with "Personal Trainer" written on the backs of their shirts, walking into the gym? Va Va Va Voom!
I can picture myself now dressed in a halter-style black top and tights , long blond hair, swaying to the beat of the Rumba.......

OOOPS! I got carried away.....
What we're we talking about? Oh yeah belly fat and health issues........

Sorry everybody.........back to your regularly scheduled info- fest.
Very informative.........carry on...........
 thecatsmeoww
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Posted: 8/9/2009 2:15:03 PM

Women/Post-menopausal women:
Females are born with smaller, less dense bones than men, and recent studies suggest adult females only get half of their RDA of calcium. It’s also known that estrogen helps protect bones from calcium loss, meaning that after menopause, low estrogen levels leave women even more vulnerable to calcium loss.

Finding a way to add Calcium and Vitamin D to your diet as well as the exercises that cat has been encouraging ... will maintain bones ... help you avoid getting that stooped over look as well ... makes us more appealing to men as we age.


I have been post- menopausual for 20 plus years now.. it is hard to believe it has been that long.. I actually had to help my mother when she was going through it. I have also been eating a very healthy diet for about 20 years now. I can't stress the importance of it little to do with looks but for you general well being and health.

Although I myself do take vitamins I do realize they are never as good as eating the real food. Some say they are not effective at all and not to even bother with them. Nothing that is synthesized is ever as good as the real deal.

I have never suffered a broken a bone in my life and do not expect to..

thecatsmeoww
 RenaissanceMan1950
Joined: 2/20/2009
Msg: 125
Health issues and finding a partner at our age
Posted: 8/9/2009 2:25:07 PM

Although I myself do take vitamins I do realize they are never as good as eating the real food. Some say they are not effective at all and not to even bother with them. Nothing that is synthesized is ever as good as the real deal.


While the "real deal" is preferable, to get all the nutrients you really need would require a lot of calories, and be counter productive to maintaining a healthy weight, unless one spends all his/her time doing menu planning. I take supplements, and have had a grand total of 3 sick days in the last 10 years. I am reasonably sure that taking a good vitamin/mineral supplement has something to do with that.
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