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 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 80
but they have great healthcare.....Page 7 of 7    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
Read this carefully libtards as this is your future if you keep punishing competence and subsidizing losers ( all Dem prgrams are essentially a loser tax).

HAVANA, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Cuba has ordered all state enterprises to adopt "extreme measures" to cut energy usage through the end of the year in hopes of avoiding the dreaded blackouts that plagued the country following the 1991 collapse of its then-top ally, the Soviet Union.

In documents seen by Reuters, government officials have been warned that the island is facing a "critical" energy shortage that requires the closing of non-essential factories and workshops and the shutting down of air conditioners and refrigerators not needed to preserve food and medicine.

Well, well, well, they can't provide toilet paper (page 1 of OP) and now can't even keep the lights on. You libs ought to sue Michael Moore for making you stupid lol.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 81
but they have great healthcare.....
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:59:22 PM
Skooch I'm going to share with you a secret so powerful, it will challenge on-line billpaying as a life chaging event for you.

There are three sources of disagreement in this world, and they are:

1. stupidity,
2. obstinancy,
3. a logic bubble ( aplace where it all makes sense to the person holding the logic fallacy given a certain set of knowledge and experiences).

Now you libtards continue to not get it. We try and teach you to no particular end. Which leads to a possiility of obstinancy. Unlikely since not being particularly principled people you'd trade your mom's false teeth for free internet anyway. leads to the possibility of a logic-bubble (yours or mine?). Since the Repubs here all know your arguments as well as our own, and you haven't a clue as to our philosophy beyond an Al Gore Lock-box level of thinking, I must choose between obstinancy and stupidity. But as I mentioned you guys not having any priciples except self interest, Iunfortunately am left with stupidity as your sole reason for constinuing disagreement.

Doesn't it feel good to have something like this all clear and tidy?
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 82
but they have great healthcare.....
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:26:08 AM
I was trying to imagine a "love of government" test, which is perhaps a misnomer as it might should be love of country, governments come and go. But anyway, the test I landed on, feel free to take it one and all is 'would I die for this government?" For me I had a flash I would not die for this government. I would not die for the people who voted for this government. Their instincts and motivations are unworthy of even modest respect, say nothing of the ultimate sacrifice.

Now personally I think this has always been part of the left's playbook, removing the nationalism that drove so much of our history. So we've pulled the teeth from the great dream that was America and landed on a bunch of lying, cheating weasels who deny the virtues the founders put forward.

So let's list what makes American exceptionalism (libtards feel free to tune out you've somehow gotten this far in life without understanding this but you got A's in PC so don't feel badly). America is about an idea, and idea where the person was large, and the state small. About elevating the value of a single human, protected by the constitution against the mob. France is about the land, Germany perhaps about the people (well until after WW2 anyway), japan was about the Emperor god (at least until after WW2).

So there we are libtards, you are destroying perhaps the single most beautiful government construct ever made so people will vote for a bunch of mediocre community organizers and botox demented whackos.

We no longer have citizens, we have clients of the Dem party. Die for them? you must be kidding.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
Msg: 83
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but they have great healthcare.....
Posted: 11/13/2009 8:35:26 AM

So there we are libtards, you are destroying perhaps the single most beautiful government construct ever made so people will vote for a bunch of mediocre community organizers and botox demented whackos.


GC, Well said, I couldn't agree more. But they may not get what they want. This administration's prestige is fading fast, and the hit it will take when this health care fiasco dies in the Senate may be fatal. This man knew he had to move fast, or fail, and he did. But I think he's shot his bolt.

And if his party takes the drubbing in next year's elections that a lot of people are predicting, they're all cooked--every last d----d sneaking jackal in the pack. Obama will hang around for two more years, but he won't be able to get anything big done. (Except, of course, to continue to ruin America's position in the world--but so did Carter, and Reagan undid it.)
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 84
but they have great healthcare.....
Posted: 11/13/2009 1:39:58 PM
Skooch you trying to be this dumb? Countries have interests, not friends. saddam arguably became our guy in the middle east when the Shah was driven out, driven out BTW because of Obama Take I Carter the dopey. Germany was once our enemy, then later our friend, same with Russia, we once fought England, things change libtard, if you want things constant try cryogenics, you and Ted Williams, frozen bookends lol.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 11/17/2009 2:45:17 PM
The U.S. strategy during the Iran-Iraq war was to weaken both regimes. And why not? One was run by Arab Nazis and the other by jihadist fanatics. If a bunch of hotheaded savages want to slaughter each other instead of us, let them have at it. A lot of poor slobs end up as cannon fodder, just as they've been doing forever in that part of the world. But then the people forget about it, have some more kids to replace the losses, get ants in their pants, and want to fight again. Maybe they'll give a democratic government a chance some day, and get out of their misery. So far, misery seems more attractive to them.

The U.S. helped Iraq with recon photos of Iranian troop movements, and as you mention, the Iran-contra affair was about selling Iran light arms and giving the money to the forces fighting the Sandinista Communists in Nicaragua. We didn't favor either Iran or Iraq--as Henry Kissinger once said, "It's only a pity they both can't lose." Which scorpion do you really want to root for? But they both fought the war so poorly that at different points in it, each one almost let the other win just through incompetence. So the U.S. had to adjust what it was doing, to shift its support to one or the other.
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