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 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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"Andrew Sullivan was speaking some free-range, grass-fed truth, by the way, when he said: "To rid the world of Osama bin Laden, Anwar al-Awlaki and Moammar Qaddafi within six months: if Obama were a Republican, he'd be on Mount Rushmore by now.""
Face the Nation, Sunday, Oct. 22nd, 2011.

"we have put a lot of deposit into Iraq," and "to think that we are so disrespected and they have so little fear of the United States that there would be nothing we would gain from this..." Bachmann on the decision to pull out of the Iraq quagmire. Same show.
 CountIbli
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 122
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Posted: 10/24/2011 8:14:34 PM


Canadians are still waiting for someone to put on their secret decoder ring and explain it to us too.......


It's simple, the US has one political party, the Republicrats. The problem with having one party in America is that we like having a choice so we'll start looking for a second party to support if the Republicrats piss us off. So the Republicrats have split into two wings, the Republicans and the Democrats. They pretend to be against each other so that we Americans will think that we have a choice. So Obama bombs Libya and Republicans complain. George Bush invades Iraq and the Democrats complain. All this complaining is for show. The Democrats don't withdraw funding for Iraq in exchange for the Republicans not withdrawing funds for Libya later.

Every two years or four years we switch which party we're going to support to teach the other party a lesson. Nothing ever changes though.

Every presidential election we invariably end up with "third" party candidates but people are discouraged from voting for them.We're told that we're wasting our votes on people who can't win (which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy) so you end up with little more than half of the people who can vote, actually vote. Aside from maybe 1% of them they vote for a Republicrat.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 123
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Posted: 10/24/2011 8:20:23 PM

The Democrats don't withdraw funding for Iraq in exchange for the Republicans not withdrawing funds for Libya later.


Well, at least the republicrats know what the war issues are...it seems that some of the teapublicrats haven't a fvckin clue.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 10/24/2011 9:09:26 PM

The Democrats don't withdraw funding for Iraq in exchange for the Republicans not withdrawing funds for Libya later.
What funds for Libya?

With Libya, we didn't illegally invade a sovereign nation and try to steal their natural resources. To my knowledge, Libya was a NATO thing. Libya rebels asked NATO for help. The last time I looked, the US is a supporting member of NATO ... right?

The Iraqi people did not ask us to "liberate" them. Iraq was nothing more than an illegal invasion. They certainly did not ask us to murder their innocent citizens (to the healthy tune of over 1.1 million). So I would wager they are not going to be offering us any rewards for the trouble we put them through. I would imagine the families of the murdered might want to pay us back ... but I doubt it would in US dollars.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3321
The Johns Hopkins study estimated that, as of July 2006, 655,000 Iraqis had been killed, about 600,000 of them violently and at least 30 percent directly by coalition forces. It updated an earlier study (Lancet, 10/29/04) that estimated that 100,000 Iraqis had died during the first year of the war. An extrapolation of the Johns Hopkins estimate of violent deaths done by Just Foreign Policy (9/18/07) currently stands at over 1.1 million.


Gee, I wonder why they didn't offer us any oil as a reward for the "illegal invasion".
 CMonster
Joined: 12/4/2004
Msg: 125
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Posted: 10/25/2011 8:54:32 PM

Gee, I wonder why they didn't offer us any oil as a reward for the "illegal invasion".

Because we wouldn't need the help since Bachmann said that she'd lower the cost of gas to $2.00 a gallon if she were elected. That and she'd bring the "Dukes of Hazzard" back to primetime television.
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Posted: 10/26/2011 5:54:48 AM
You know it's gettin really bad out there when even Pat Robertson considers the republicans to be pandering to extremists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQ7LaaZsds&feature=player_embedded
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 127
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Posted: 10/26/2011 5:59:53 AM
Doggonit, I missed the $2/gallon promise:


Presidential candidate Michele Bachmann said that, if elected President, she'd cut the cost of gas to $2.

“The day that the president became president gasoline was $1.79 a gallon. Look at what it is today,” she said at an event in Greenville, S.C. according to Politico. “Under President Bachmann, you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again. That will happen.”

The average price of gas is now around $3.58 nationwide, according to AAA, and closer to $4 in urban areas in California.

Bachmann didn't detail how she'd perform that trick. Oil prices are set globally and increased drilling in the U.S. would only add a small amount to the overall pool. In any event, any output -- which would trickle in over the course of several years -- would be countered by a reduction in imports. Demand also continues to surge in China and the emerging world, keeping upward pressure on the price.

But since Bachmann didn't provide any answers, we are left to speculate on what she might propose. Some of the ideas her campaign might be pondering:

--Subsidies. Fuel and energy subsidies are used worldwide to keep the cost of oil down. Indonesia spends 10 to 28 percent of its national budget on energy subsidies. Tea Party fans might recoil at subsidies -- isn't that what the renewable industry gets? But subsidies disguised in the right way are popular: both Alaska and Montana, two strongholds of Tea Party support, both receive more in federal funds than they pay in taxes. If she packaged a gas fund as the Freedom to Buy Gas and Slim Jims at a Convenience Store Act, voters could view this as a moral defense of liberty.

--Drill. That could be a challenge. The Energy Information Administration estimates that the U.S. had 22.3 billion barrels of reserves at the end of 2009. The U.S. consumes around 20 million barrels of oil a day, or about 25 percent of the world total. That leaves enough oil for 1115 days, or just over three years. That wouldn't even last her first term. Alexis Madrigal at The Atlantic notes that the USGS has stated that the touted Bakken formation in North Dakota is a "significant" formation but it might only contain 4.3 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil. Oil from shale formations in the U.S. came to 275,000 barrels a day.

--Eliminate Safety Regulations on Existing Rigs. The BP disaster was an act of God, rival candidate Rick Perry and fellow Congressional Representative Tom Cole have suggested. God doesn't like fish -- get it through your head, people. You think Fish Stick Friday was just a coincidence?

--Cut Gas Taxes and Invalidate State Laws. The federal excise tax on gas is 18.4 cents a gallon, the same level it was at 18 years ago in 1993. The tax on diesel at the federal level is 24.4 cents. States actually tax gas at a higher level: the national average for gas is 48.1 cents per gallon and for diesel it is 53 cents. Going after the states would have to be a nationwide effort. Not just lefty states tax gas: Texas has a 20 percent gas tax. Bachmann's home state of Minnesota has a higher gas tax (27.2 cents per gallon) than that bastion of socialist stateism known as Massachusetts (23.5 cents).

Eliminating all taxes would bring the price of gas close to $3 a gallon, putting her still $1 away from the elusive $2 goal. Approximately 60 percent of federal gas taxes, however, go to maintain roads and bridges. Gradual dilapidation would prompt people to drive less, thereby curbing demand and prices. It's a classic market-based solution.

--Go After Banks and Oil Companies. It might help, but very little. Credit and debit card fees add another 4.7 cents per gallon. Interestingly, the gross profit margin is only 16.3 cents per gallon.

--Invade. It's been tried, but found wanting. After Iraq was overturned, BP and China Offshore Oil Company won the largest oil concessions from the country's new government.

--Coal. Not according to this MIT study from May. It says that liquid fuel from coal could cost $91 per barrel in China, India and the U.S. and $105 to $118 per barrel in Europe, not including carbon-capture technology. The coal-to-liquids process is also generally quite polluting so this could be a tough sell. If carbon caps or emissions technology were imposed, the price would rise. Biofuels could also undercut the price of coal to liquids even without carbon controls.

The MIT study predicts that coal to liquids could account for 15 percent to 18 percent of world liquid fuel supply by 2050, but this assumes light regulation and that biofuels don't become economical. (With virtually no regulation and a pervasive lack of biofuels, coal could supply one-third of all liquid fuels, but a no-policy world already seems highly unlikely.) With cap-and-trade and available biofuels, liquid coal may not be viable at all, or could hit low single digits. But either way, $91 a barrel fuel wouldn't bring the price down to Bachmann's $2 mark.

--Biofuels. She's vetoed biodiesel legislation more than once.

U.S. oil imports, by the way, actually have dropped under Obama. The U.S. imported 49.3 percent of its oil in 2010 compared to 60.3 percent in 2005 and nearly 67 percent toward the end of the Bush era.
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http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/bachmann-promises-to-bring-gas-to-2-a-gallon/
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 128
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Posted: 11/7/2011 8:00:05 PM
Oh Irish you dog, go onnnn! No way she ever gets a nomination.

Just the soundbites of some of the looney sh1t she said on the house floor, would sink her candidacy, even with the wacko right and religious not bars!

She'd never raise the dough for an all out run. The party too would walk away. They don't mind the dancing bears, during the circus before, but they want an electable candidate when it comes to the big show!
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 129
Bachmann..... For President 12.... Will She get your Vote?
Posted: 11/7/2011 8:57:09 PM
Is she still running?

They're starting to run out of the "Anybody but Romney" candidates. I hear even Newt is moving up in the polls - he could be the next one for a few minutes. They're going to have to start recycling them into the top slot - and Bachmann hasn't been there for a while now.

Huntsman's daughters are the best thing so far in the campaign, so I'd really like to see him get a moment in the sun.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 130
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Posted: 11/8/2011 4:40:51 PM
Well it's a little early for****ns, but BB seems to want to get out in front of the holiday season!

According to BB: "If anyone will not work, neither shall they eat."

So all of you 13.9 million out of work people, go starve says Bachman. No it doesn't matter that you can't find a job to do, it only counts that you are out of work, and lack "the work ethic" or "self reliance".

What the he11 is wrong with you people, get out there and start a business! Do it from and with nothing! You have no self reliance, no work ethic! Hahahaha!

The Bachman has spoken!

Yeah 12, maybe 2112, ain't gonna happen in this century!
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 131
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Posted: 11/8/2011 7:03:45 PM
Bachmann: I'll create 'millions of jobs'
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45162394/ns/today-today_people/t/bachmann-ill-create-millions-jobs/

Wait one fvcking minute!!!! I thought the evangelical wingnut right said government couldn't create jobs...
 CMonster
Joined: 12/4/2004
Msg: 132
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Posted: 11/9/2011 12:05:01 AM
It's probably going to be all of the additional gas station attendants needed to pump the $2.00/gallon gas after opening up the floodgates of oil drilling in Alaska and off the coastline. Yep, that will create millions upon millions of jobs for Americans, beavers in Alaska and ocean life along the coast (as long as they aren't gay).
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 134
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Posted: 11/9/2011 3:37:01 PM

Curious, does anyone even read this crap? Unable to use an out right lie, a few half a$$ play on words and voila! Imma point point out what I caught in 8 seconds, um k?


This from the person who is constantly editing her posts, called out on her sources, and buys into the most extreme conspiricy sites only to later claim "ignorance"?

Really?
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Posted: 11/10/2011 12:02:58 AM
Blade...re-writing history is a constant effort, done daily, hourly, by the minute by the dedicated few. Don't feel bad if you can't keep up.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 136
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Posted: 11/10/2011 8:12:51 AM
EP, they don't make BS shovels big enough to keep up.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 137
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Posted: 1/4/2012 12:38:32 PM
Seeing as how she's just dropped out of the race I won't be voting for her...not that I would in any case.
 CMonster
Joined: 12/4/2004
Msg: 138
Bachmann..... For President 12.... Will She get your Vote?
Posted: 1/4/2012 1:45:16 PM
And I was so looking forward to $2 a gallon gas...
 archer6366
Joined: 10/23/2011
Msg: 139
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Posted: 1/4/2012 2:31:03 PM
good job Michele. Now time to cash out.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 1/4/2012 4:14:33 PM
Two major Christian Theocrat Taliban down...and a couple more to go.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 141
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Posted: 1/4/2012 4:18:35 PM
She wouldn't have and now we'll never know if anyone else would have voted for her. At least she bowed out gracefully before it got awfully embarrassing low polls. (Oh wait....it was that. Ops!!!) JMO
 CMonster
Joined: 12/4/2004
Msg: 142
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Posted: 1/4/2012 5:30:57 PM
It makes me wonder how Cain would have fared both with and without the controversy. What affect would he have had on Paul and Santorum. Actually, it would have been interesting if Pawlenty was still vying for the nomination.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 1/4/2012 11:03:57 PM
Bachmann for dropout she will get no ones vote now lol. I'm sorry but she should have dropped out months ago it would have saved her a lot of strees and a lot of money and that's the thing you need is a lot of money to make your run for the white house.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 144
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Posted: 1/5/2012 8:59:45 AM
Honestly C? As an independant, I can't see ANYONE (that include you, Obama) worth a damn. Not a single statesman among them, and the mroe we find out about them, the worse they get.

When they are seriously considering the likes of Trump and Gingrich, you know they got nothing.
 CMonster
Joined: 12/4/2004
Msg: 145
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:02:53 AM

Honestly C? As an independant, I can't see ANYONE (that include you, Obama) worth a damn. Not a single statesman among them, and the mroe we find out about them, the worse they get.

When they are seriously considering the likes of Trump and Gingrich, you know they got nothing.

That's why it would be interesting to watch including the ones who got voted off of the island. It's one of the most interesting reality television shows on the air.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:37:40 PM


Blade...re-writing history is a constant effort, done daily, hourly, by the minute by the dedicated few. Don't feel bad if you can't keep up.

EP, they don't make BS shovels big enough to keep up.
I have a really big snow shovel.

What about "flippers"? Do they make flippers (like those water wing thingies for non-swimmers) for flip-floppers? Maybe we could get Romney donors to fit him with a pair so his flip-flopping won't be so cumbersome.

OMG ... the way things are going for Romney ... Bachmann might be the best thing he can get his hands on.
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