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Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 34
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This is a cheap shot against Mahogany - A woman lying about an orgasm is because
the lie is to PROTECT HIM - NOT outright HURT HIM. .

Uhm....Mahogany and I are good friends

So a woman can lie about an orgasm to "protect her lover's ego" but can't lie about sleeping with another man in order to protect his heart and ego? Screwed logic there curly!
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 35
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cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 4:01:43 PM
Uhm....Mahogany and I are good friends

Being friends with him is besides the point - I share a friendship with him
too but I am not going to bait him over questioning that Lying over
an orgasm has anything remotely to do with cheating.

So a woman can lie about an orgasm to "protect her lover's ego" but can't lie about sleeping with another man in order to protect his heart and ego? Screwed logic there curly

I would do anything to protect my man because there are other ways that
he c an get me off and he would know this - so no - not screwed up logic-
communication with my partner and being HONEST WITH HIM.

If I am cheating on him - Im not really into protecting him now am I?
I can bring shit home to him - I can put him in harms way in all kinds of
ways like getting involved with a mental case, STDs - Thats not protecting
him now is it?

Hey down there - I didnt "intertwine orgasm with cheating" - YOU did.

You need to read what you write - I didnt know there were certain posters
whose views here were "all encompassing" - My opinion. Like you have
stated yours.
Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 36
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 4:11:52 PM
You really don't get it do you? Now you've managed to somehow intertwine orgasm with cheating...I suggest you read and understand posts before putting your 1 cent worth of crap in...My question is a fair and logical one asked to a man that is capable of answering without using emotional prejudice. I’m sorry that you feel baited in, next time try removing yourself and your experiences from the topic at hand, you’ll be able to see it more clearly for what it really is.
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 9/1/2009 4:35:01 PM
suggest you read and understand posts before putting your 1 cent worth of crap in...

Wow - my feelings are hurt.

OP - Get rid of your girlfriend. She beats on you, she cheats on you and
you are just being a doormat and making excuses for your low self esteem.

No contact, heal and move forward. Lots of good advice here for you
to ponder- I suggest you do.

Joined: 9/9/2005
Msg: 38
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 7:16:26 PM
OK, she assaulteed you. Let me guess. You tried to tell her to do something and she went stupid.

She cheated on you. She slept with another man. The ultimate in insults, and she placed you in real danger for a lifetime of medicine and possibly death by giving you anything form HIV to Hep a b or c.

Then she says she really loves you. was that when she was slapping you or when she was trying to kill you?

Dude grow some balls.
Joined: 9/9/2005
Msg: 39
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 7:23:15 PM
Oh, one more thing. Think about it. Was she saying NO NO NO while she was sleeping with this guy? When she was kissing him, was she saying, NO DON'T MY BOYFRIEND...

No, she was taking her own clothes off, and kissing him with her mouth. She was getting funky and loving every moment of it, while planning on how to keep you strung along and getting what she wants. She was sleeping with him, and at the same time, planning on what to say to you if she were discovered. Then, she got scared you would find out in a siutuation that she couldn't control, and told you in a way she COULD control. She had it planned for days. Waited for the right time, and popped it when you ere the most mallable. After an argument? When you were sad? More then likely, when you were not as emotional towards her as you usually are - distracted?

You were used.

I agree in this case. Kick her out. Zero contact. Ignore the sobs and tears, becuase all they mean is that she is angry because she has to find someone as stupid as you have been, and that is hard to do.
Joined: 9/2/2007
Msg: 40
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 10:10:40 PM
Cheating, assault, mean behavior...this is love to you!?!?!? I am sure you will be able to find a much healthier, loving, caring, faithful relationship if you allow yourself to...and so will she...unless she's the cheating type...good luck!!
Joined: 7/11/2009
Msg: 41
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 10:12:45 PM
Well...if I can chime..Or, I guess I will...I think you can forgive someone cheating under the right cricumstances...(Not the situation on this thread). As far as faking an orgasm, I guess that's a lie. I personally have never faked one in my life, ever! "Cause I ain't gininl anybody credit for somethin they didn't do! That's my 2 cents!
Lighten up everybody.... It's just all a bunch of silliness anyway! ;-)
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 42
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 10:52:41 PM
Listen friend... let me give you some advice...
Pretend she is sodom and gomorrah...

Turn your eyes from her and never look back...

You are in a whole pile of shit already but you just don't know it...

There are so many other girls at college... do not let her **** your college life up and especially your grades...

This the main thing you want to avoid in college: A crazy violent girl friend.

In life, but in college especially.
Joined: 10/29/2006
Msg: 43
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 10:55:58 PM
Also who cares if she is family friends.
You tell your fam to not have anything to do with her.
You cut her off...
I'm telling you don't ruin your life.
You have 4 years in college or sometimes 6-8 then that's it and your out with however you did. It can either be the most formative time of your life, a few extra teen years but what it definitely shouldn't be is domestics , unnecessary debt and failing out.
Joined: 7/17/2009
Msg: 44
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/1/2009 11:57:57 PM
I believe that cutting your losses and walking away are the key at this point. Being young and making these mistakes is somewhat understandable, but if there is no trust, there is no future. Clearly, she doesn't respect you, unfortunately, because she assaulted you and cheated. Two strikes darlin. Good luck in your decision!
Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 45
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/2/2009 1:50:51 PM

ArabianAngel, I cant speak for other men, I can only speak from my own experience, Lying about faking a orgasm isnt the same as cheating, when someone cheats on you they are playing with you life, faking a orgasm, well not to be a smart ass but the guy probably needs to pay more attention.A lie is a lie yes I agree, but the degrees of lies in my eyes is the issue, we all tell little lies, " oh that baby is cute when you know the baby is not, or that dog or pet is cute when its a homely thing, faking a orgasm it really depends, well I think the communication skills are lacking there.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree my friend...I see far too many contradictions, as far as I'm concerned cheating and lieing are exactly the same thing, if it wasn't then those that enjoy open relationships wouldn't feel cheated by. As for the "playing with your life" I take it you are refering to STD's etc? .....Well, would the pain be any less for the person that's been cheated on if their partner had protected themselves?.....
 Wishes Granted
Joined: 3/6/2008
Msg: 46
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Posted: 9/2/2009 2:03:42 PM

Just found out last night that my girlfriend cheated on me.

2 weeks prior to this she was arrested for assaulting me

yea they did have a history. our releationship is crazy i guess. a couple months ago i had sex with my girlfriend and her best friend at the time. it wasnt cheating because it agreed upon and she was there. so i dont know what to do. why the hell do i love her? i dont want to picture my life with out her. i told her i forgive her and i think i might be bale to but i cant stop thinking about it right now ya know?

I'm going to advise you like a mom would ...
Son: You are in a dysfunctional relationship with a 20 year old who beats you, cheats on you, and has a free sexual lifestyle. If you want to continue with women of this nature, and you get accustomed to the "lifestyle" you will never be able to find a well adjusted, sensual, loving, woman who is capable of loving just you. Or, you will find such a girl.. and you will be unable to be happy in a monogamous, relationship with her because you will crave the crazy that has become the norm for you.

So.. before the insanity becomes a "normal" way of life for you and, if you picture yourself one day being with a good woman who is loving and devoted to you ~ I suggest you get out of this co-dependent hell you mistake for love, concentrate on your studies and find a Nice girl who will make you proud and will treat you, and you her in a recipricol loving interdependent manner.

In the meantime, son ~ get STD tested regularily.. and play safe .. this "cheating dilemma" you find yourself in could have even worse dire consequences than your Opost alludes too ..

Edit: Question: What was your life like growing up ~ Prior to finding yourself in your "dilemma?"
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 47
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/2/2009 7:19:00 PM
You aren't stupid unless you stay with her. Sjhe assaulted you and she cheated on you. Dump her. You're only 24. Don't waste your time on her. She has no respect for you and it's only a matter of time before she dumps you.
Joined: 7/24/2009
Msg: 48
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/2/2009 7:23:46 PM

I don't know why I tolerate it. I think I'd rather be miserable than alone

You sound very disfunctional and you cannot be in a healthy relationship with that kind of thinking. I would revise that to read thus:

...I think I'd rather be alone than miserable, is a better state than the former, unless of course for you being miserable is more desirable than being alone.

BTW when it comes to assault and such, it could escalate into something worse like manslaughter so you might want to consider being in a violent relationship. Good luck.
Joined: 11/10/2008
Msg: 49
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/2/2009 8:31:33 PM

She said it was all her fault and how much she loves me and wants to be with me and that it will never happen again

Once a cheater ALWAYS a cheater.

And by using that logic I should have cheated on her a million times for being mean.

Don't get mad buddy... Get even.

I have no idea what to do at all.

Cheat on her with all of her girlfriends, her mom, or anyone else that matters to her... Make sure to get evidence, and conveniently leave it behind on your way out the door.

How am I ever supposed to trust her or should I let her try and earn it back?

You will never be able to trust her again. Experience talking.

She will do it every time she goes to "visit" her family and friends.

Good luck my man.
Joined: 1/7/2009
Msg: 50
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Posted: 9/2/2009 8:58:54 PM

i mean she just assualted me how the hell am i supposed to act?

You act like Jesse Owens and run as fast as you can.

I also strongly recommend you get professional counseling to deal with what are clearly some self-esteem issues. You stay in this relationship because you fear being alone. You fear being aone because, deep down, you don't believe you deserve better than a cheating, abusive, manipulating little girl.

I also strongly recommend you take time off from dating. As in a couple of years. Learn how to be happy being alone. After all, you're the only person you're truly going to be spending the rest of your life with. And as Oscar Wilde said, to love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance.
Joined: 1/15/2008
Msg: 51
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/2/2009 10:10:30 PM
Make her feel real Guilty abou it! Ask her to get you into a 3some or anal lol for all the wrong doing she has done to you. But let be real with you, its hard and I have gone through it on both sides of the street and it sucks but you have to move on from it. Also it can eat you up inside and you are in college break it off, you can meet loads of better ladies on your own campus. Good Luck
Joined: 3/26/2009
Msg: 52
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/3/2009 7:12:03 PM
put her in the friend zone but dont take away the benefits. there's plenty of quality, intelligent college girls your age muh man gotta look for em around campus
 english lass
Joined: 11/14/2007
Msg: 53
cheating dileme
Posted: 9/9/2009 3:43:59 PM
she assaulted you and cheated on you...

...if that's what you're looking for within a relationship, then sure, keep being with her

if you want someone to respect your physical and emotional well-being, i'd suggest that perhaps she's not the one for you....
Joined: 10/23/2006
Msg: 54
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Posted: 9/10/2009 7:40:15 PM
Admirable that she came forward and told you she cheated on you. ****shit, they tell you to relieve their guilt - plan and simple. What good comes to you from her telling you about the affair. Yea, I see you, shanking you head. THAT IS CORRECT,
Joined: 4/24/2008
Msg: 55
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Posted: 11/9/2009 7:57:11 PM
When I read that she assaulted you, it became a whole new issue, then the cheating. This sounds like someone who needs therapy because she is displaying abusive behavior along with being unfaithful a deadly combination. I wouldnt even consider it , I would recommend she get some therapy for the two diviant behaviorrs. Do you really want to live throught the type of hell she would relive and has relived with you? You think that was a roller coaster, you will have repeat episodes of it. She needs therapy.
Joined: 9/8/2009
Msg: 56
cheating dileme
Posted: 11/10/2009 4:25:36 AM
I stopped reading this after the line of "2 weeks prior to this she was arrested for assaulting me"....... get out! Why would you stay with a girl that assaulted you as well as cheated on you??? How desperate are you? Get Out!
Joined: 9/29/2009
Msg: 57
cheating dileme
Posted: 11/14/2009 4:58:21 PM
I would bet dollars to donuts the time she admitted cheating wasn't the only time she did it. Can I prove it? No. But in cases like this, the ugly truth is usually uglier than you think.

If you let this go, you are basically writing the word "doormat" on your forehead. You'll make it clear to her that no matter what she does, you'll forgive her. Don't do it. Tell her to get lost.
Joined: 10/23/2009
Msg: 58
cheating dileme
Posted: 11/14/2009 5:08:20 PM
Lifes lesson....what you see is what you get...she didnt think it was a mistake when she laid down and spread her legs for the werent even a thought in her head...and i am sure the guy dumped her...and..she decided to tell you before you found out...because right now...she has an assault record..and any man that does a check on her before he dates her...wont go near her...guys and gals do it all the time...Once a cheater..always a cheater..your young...and..dont settle for less than you deserve...when you become a real man...worry about a girlfriend...focus on your schooling...and getting a great job...and stashing money in the bank.... Go back and read what you wrote...then make your decision....if you make a foolish mistake and get back with will continue to make foolish mistakes the rest of your life...have some self least...for yourself...
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