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 readyfornow
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Of course the parents were in control. But wouldn't you think there might have been a stipulation in the agreement for the family not to go after him themselves?
 jack-d-ripper
Joined: 2/25/2008
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Posted: 10/1/2009 12:54:56 PM
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The girl ...Victim is the PARENT..... shes 40 years old....

I would not want my kids to hear graphic details of my SEX history....


At some point she let it go... She said she forgave him.. If thats the money so what...

The victim is being hurt by the DA......this is going to turn into a real zoo... A former DA now admits he lied on a documentary ....

This will not be Justice...................


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 want to travel
Joined: 7/29/2006
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Posted: 10/2/2009 9:21:30 AM
the so called 'victim' doesnt want him charged, it was once back before aids, everybody was doing all kinds of sexual things, if he was a repeat offender or if young women was his thing then i would understand the big fuss, but he has never done anything like that again
 Formerseeeyeay
Joined: 9/29/2009
Msg: 54
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Posted: 10/2/2009 7:23:32 PM
Polanski should fry.
He drugged and raped a 7th grader.
She wants the thing dropped because he paid her off.
Justice needs to be served, even if it's a bit late.

Those who defend the guy are scumbags.
 plp1
Joined: 9/24/2009
Msg: 55
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Posted: 10/2/2009 11:44:50 PM
He is sitting in a Switzerland jail while Polanski's lawyers are fighting his extradition to the United States.

What should be done with him? Should he be turned over to the United States?

Should he stand trial?

I say he should be turned over to the United States and stand trial. He should get no bail and stay in jail.

My question is... What are the Switzerland police holding him?

Why didn't France turn him over to the United States?
 Casper66
Joined: 3/2/2007
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Posted: 10/3/2009 2:06:41 AM
I understand the victum not wanting to go through the nastiness of a court case and have to relive everything again, she has moved on in her life. Polanski is a child rapist in my opinion, he drugged and then had sex with a minor, there is no excuse for this, if it was an ordinary man no one would be coming to his defense. I don't blame her for taking a settlement, people forget that 30 years ago proving rape was very difficult and the victum was usually blamed or told that they somehow asked for it. He should be extradiated and serve his jailtime for the crime he plead gulity too.
 Formerseeeyeay
Joined: 9/29/2009
Msg: 57
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Posted: 10/3/2009 10:16:09 AM
Gotta love the Jesus defense for Polanski.
Only on POF.

Polanski was quoted saying something to the effect that people are "jealous of me for having sex with the girl. "

Polanski was having a big bout of ego inflation and fancied that he was above the law.
 plp1
Joined: 9/24/2009
Msg: 58
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Posted: 10/3/2009 9:14:35 PM
Here is a thought. If the Swiss do turn him over the United States, I feel the U. S. Marshall's should take him in handcuffs and not let go the regular way, where he sits as a regular passenger, with two escorts. Once he get's to the United States, he get's no bail.

My reasoning is... He is a flight risk.

Still I want to know why... Why did the Swiss arrest him?
 FriendlyFreeSpirit
Joined: 7/27/2009
Msg: 59
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Posted: 10/3/2009 10:10:45 PM
I've just read he didn't give her the $500,000 settlement. He never handed the money over. What a scumbug. He must really have entitlement issues - what an arrogant fool not to pay the settlement.
 MissNoWhere
Joined: 3/29/2008
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Posted: 10/3/2009 10:18:36 PM
The Swiss arrested him because the US asked. It's part of the Swiss-US Extradition Treaty.
 Not The Cable Guy
Joined: 10/24/2008
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Posted: 10/4/2009 1:22:47 AM
Why did the Swiss arrest him?


Well, on the surface, they appear to be a mellow and Hobbit-like bunch of people... You know, not wanting to involve themselves in global altercations over turf...

And will gladly hold your money until your petty grievences are settled...

"We are a peaceful people... Make watches... Wear lederhosen and yodel for lost goats... And you can't beat the scenery here."..

But Polanski, in a conversation with a reliable source, openly admitted his absolute hatred for chocolate... Mistake...

Worse than making fun of Canadian beer...
 notatowniegirl
Joined: 4/18/2006
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:09:28 AM

But the man is in his mid-seventies. He's not a threat anymore.


I don't agree with this. Being old doesn't suddenly make you a good person. There have been plenty of elderly people who have committed heinous crimes. He could have been raping teenage French girls all this time... we just don't know.

I say send the pig back to the U.S, sentence him for the original crimes, then bring him up on charges for fleeing.

Being a "somebody" doesn't give you special privileges when it comes to crime.
 grizzelda
Joined: 6/25/2006
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Posted: 10/7/2009 8:46:00 AM
I agree, correct me if I am wrong, he plead guilty and ran, he was charged and didnt show up to complete his punishment. So he had a warrant out for his arrest. They caught him and he now gets to go to jail and deal with the other charges that come from his running away, The victim has nothing to do with what is going on now and I dont think even needs to step foot into a court of law. Or am I wrong?
 rockmybobbysocks
Joined: 9/7/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 12:03:24 PM
i feel sorry for the girl as she's lived this whole time with no justice, knowing that just because the man is an artist of the highest calibur, he can go around raping young girls.

i also wonder how many other times he's done it while on the run, where laws are much different and his title alone carries much weight.



rape is rape. regardless of who inacts it.
 dennyden
Joined: 6/27/2007
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Posted: 10/7/2009 2:59:46 PM
^^ i agree there are bigger issues then child rapist, but not many. but the flip side of your agrument is that it says to rich people, if u do something wrong just pay off the person and law wont come after you. also it says try to pay them off and also run , because you have the money to do it, seems to be a bad message to send . say u had a kid that he did that to, and then he tried to pay you off and ran, are u telling me u dont think he should answer for what he did to your kid? also it happens that people get charged with crimes where the victim doesnt want to press charges, i would think most common would be domestic violence, so u think the courts should hold a man that beats the crap outta a wowan accountable for his actions if the wowan doesnt want to press charges?
 dennyden
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Posted: 10/7/2009 3:24:20 PM
^^ kids cant consent to sex at the age of 13, thats the law. i dont have hysteria, i was just simply telling you my opinion. also u said about the victim in this case didnt want to press charges, i was just saying in some of those cases the victim doesnt want to press charges, i was just pointing out its not just this case that it happens in. about your kids, i think its good that you wont send them out to model at the age of 13, that doesnt mean what he did was any less bad because the 13 year old was modeling. just for the record a 13 year is a child to me
 FriendlyFreeSpirit
Joined: 7/27/2009
Msg: 67
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Posted: 10/7/2009 4:03:06 PM

One thing to consider... Polanski settled this matter directly with the girl years ago and now even the Victim doesn't want this case to continue and is on Polanski's side

Except he didn't - he didn't pay up.
And to say because she was a teenager (just!) who consented to modelling means it's somehow ok to drug her, feed her alcohol and have sex with her while she's saying "no" the whole time is rather strange.
Yes, denny, a 13-year-old is definitely still a child...*shakes head in disbelief*
 FriendlyFreeSpirit
Joined: 7/27/2009
Msg: 68
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Posted: 10/7/2009 4:58:26 PM
I'm confused. Are you saying because she's old enough to model, she's old enough to rape?
Babies model. Old people model.
Anyway, this is beside the point.

Now... as to whether a 13 year old is a child... well when you look through history, that wasn't always the case
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I'm sure if you go to the Old Testament, you'll find examples of this.
 FriendlyFreeSpirit
Joined: 7/27/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 5:33:48 PM
Actually, in an earlier post here I questioned this whole pursuit myself.
But I'm not being disingeneous at all. To say the girl was old enough to drug and rape because her mother thought she was old enough to be left alone on a modelling shoot with a famous film director (and don't forget Angelica Houston was there as well) is silly. To say a 13-year-old isn't a child and therefore it's appropriate for a 44-year-old to have sex with her is...gross. Keep the arguments - pursuing Polanski and age of consent - separate.
 notatowniegirl
Joined: 4/18/2006
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Posted: 10/8/2009 5:18:53 AM

^^^ Except that the child wasn't a child, but in fact a teenager at the time... a teenager old enough to Modeling work with her mother's blessing. And you're also ignoring the fact that there was judicial misconduct as well. It was the judicial misconduct that caused him to take off.


No, judicial misconduct was what he CLAIMED as his reasoning for running away. For most people convicted of crime, this is the norm. How many convicts do you know that take full responsibility for their crimes?How many do you know that claim innocence and blame it all on the police, judges, lawyers, court system, and so on....


And consider as well that the reality of the judicial system is that the only people who get treated fairly are the ones who are rich enough to get proper legal representation... and even then, there's no guarantee of fairness... like what occurred in this case.


And your proof that this was the case here? That the DEFENDANT said it was?!?!


And BTW... I have two kids... one boy and one girl. But my kids would not end up in that situation in the first place. You know why? Because I don't plan on sending my kids to modeling gigs at the age of 13.


Yeah, I can totally see how allowing your child to be alone with a photographer would make it your fault instead of his if he decides to slip her a quaalude, and stick his penis into her vagina and anus.

What he did was reprehensible and I can't believe people are actually excusing this...
 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
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Posted: 10/8/2009 7:23:13 AM
If he had raped my 13 year old, given her drugs and alcohol he would not have made it out of the country if I had a breath left in me.

I hope he is returned and serves the maximum, plus what ever extra they can slap on his child molesting, 5 foot pole azz they can for him fleeing.

No passes.
 xxxDINOxxx
Joined: 8/12/2009
Msg: 72
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Posted: 10/8/2009 7:40:28 AM

Irrelevant in this case because Polanski plead guilty. So your logic of him claiming his innocence is completely Bogas... just as bogas as the claim that he never paid the victim anything.

I think Polanski himself knows what he did was reprehensible.. judging my his track record since... and judging by the fact that he got married since.

But he's also not stupid either. He saw misconduct and wasn't gonna leave himself open to it.

If you think judicial misconduct is soooo unlikely, I suggest you do some research on the term "Wrongfully Accused". Not saying that Polanski was wrongfully accused, just merely pointing how the "Legal" system has often gotten disconnected with the concept of "Justice"

The fact that they're still going after him even though the *victim* asked them not to speaks volumes about how their motives have little or nothing to do with justice.

And it's not like the victim is some kid anymore. She's over 40 years old now.


^^ I agree. Well put.
 NothingLeftToBurn
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Posted: 10/8/2009 10:25:16 AM
How many of you have ever heard of Jeffrey Dahmer? Ted bundy? Albert Fish? The Zodiac Killer? You've heard of one of them for sure. Who can tell me the name of at least one of the victims of Jeffrey Dahmer? He had over 10 victims, who cares, he had more than one. So you should at least be able to name one, right? I'm sure some of you will go to Google and come back and say, "see, I knew one" You're a liar and you know you're a liar. You don't know the names of any of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims. You don't know the name of any of Ted Bundy's victims, or the Zodiac Killer's victims.

So why is it that we remember the names of the killers and not the victims? At the end of the day, killers are interesting and victims are boring. We're fascinated by serial killers. We need to know what motivated their need to kill. No one inquires about the motivation of the victims because the victims didn't need a motivation. They didn't do anything, something was done to them. The only time you see a book about a victim, is if the victim was already someone important for unrelated reasons.

Now on to the Roman Polanski case. He's not a murderer. he's a rapist, but not even a real rapist, a statutory rapist. The victim said that she and Polanski settled this outside of court. All has been repaired, all has been forgiven. But the US is still trying to extradite Polanski, still trying to prosecute him and persecute him. But if the victim doesn't want it why does the Government? To show how just, good and moral we are? To give the victim justice because we care about them? NO, no no. None of that really bothers us because we don't even care about them, we don't remember their names, they command no attention whatsoever.

The reason we're interested in the killers is because the killers are rule breakers. They break the rules. they go against social norms. The real reason we punish these people is because they broke the rules. We can't have people breaking the rules. We gotta put those people in a cage, because if we don't put them in a cage, people will think its ok to break the rules. So our need to punish killers and rapists and whoever else doesn't come out of compassion or empathy. It comes out of authority. "WE DEMAND THAT YOU OBEY OUR COMMAND, AND IF YOU DO NOT WE WILL PUT YOU IN A CAGE AND WE WILL PUNISH YOU." And the bigger the rule you break, the bigger the punishment.

And if we can get a little justice for the victims that's fine too. -TJ
 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
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Posted: 10/8/2009 11:03:38 AM
Settled out of court at 13?
Do you think she was able to make any decision of maturity at 13? Turn away all those bucks? I am sure she has defended him because of some clause in that settlement.

I don't want him punished for any other reason than he is a child molester, and I can place a good bet she was not the last. Probably not the first.

Child rapist don't change. If she was 10 or 9 would that be different?

 NothingLeftToBurn
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Posted: 10/8/2009 11:26:12 AM

Settled out of court at 13?
Do you think she was able to make any decision of maturity at 13? Turn away all those bucks? I am sure she has defended him because of some clause in that settlement.

I don't want him punished for any other reason than he is a child molester, and I can place a good bet she was not the last. Probably not the first.

Child rapist don't change. If she was 10 or 9 would that be different?


So do you want him punished because he's a rapist or because you want justice for the person who was raped?
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