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 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 156
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P.S. If it was a woman talking about a man like that it should've made you smile... :)

Interesting thought. I'm wondering what the OP would do if he had overheard the woman in question having a similar conversation, supposedly private, with a co-worker? She menions she would love to have sex with a particular bloke just to see what it was like to have a white guy f*ck her? She then goes on to say some offensive stuff about caucasians in general.

Would the OP be disgusted and want to fire her on the spot, despite her job proficiency? Would the OP go running to HR and have her written up? Would the OP, as some have suggested on this thread, engage in a campaign of passive-aggression to force her out of the company.

Or would the OP do... nothing?
 mysticaries
Joined: 4/4/2008
Msg: 158
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/20/2009 1:50:12 PM
You're a manager with the capability of firing someone and you're posting on POF for advice on what to do in this situation? Sheesh. I am really underpaid and under-recognized.
 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 159
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/20/2009 1:53:56 PM

Unless you have a company policy of "no sleeping with co-workers / only meaningful relationships," then this implies a personal agenda here.

The 'elephant in the room'. The OP comes on a dating site to crucify an employee over the contents of a private conversation, dressing it up as a simple HR issue, when the real issue here is his personal moral compass.
 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 162
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/20/2009 11:47:39 PM

No conversatioin, no discussion. End of story.

What would your position be if it had in fact been the female technical writer talking with a friend and saying she would like to bonk a white man to see what it was like and making racial comments?

Would you do exactly the same thing?
 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 163
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 12:04:40 AM

To be honest with you, my first firing over sexual harassment was a woman.

SS

Well I admire your consistency, although I wouldn't have been so heavy-handed, my view is a warning and permanent record entry would have sufficed.
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 165
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 7:13:19 AM

(mysticaries) You're a manager with the capability of firing someone and you're posting on POF for advice on what to do in this situation? Sheesh. I am really underpaid and under-recognized.




Binroe...
 Secondhand_Lion
Joined: 11/10/2008
Msg: 166
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Posted: 11/21/2009 9:46:23 AM
I can't remember the title, but there was a movie awhile back...I think starring Tom Cruise, where people were being prosicuted for criminal thoughts in order to prevent the actual crime. At the time, I thought it was so left wing radical and ridiculous, that I couldn't finish watching it. Reading many of the post here, lead me to believe that it isn't as far fetched as I thought. Maybe when all you human rights activist get finished legislating away all the humanity in humans, you might discover that what you sought to protect....you actually distroyed.
 Secondhand_Lion
Joined: 11/10/2008
Msg: 167
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Posted: 11/21/2009 10:49:40 AM
Cheshirecatalyst, while you are sifting through and correcting insignificant details in my post.....did the point I was trying to make fly over your pretty little head?
 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 168
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 11:23:53 AM
The other day I overheard a conversation between two of my male employees. A woman who is our technical writer is a very attractive single African American. One of the male employees said that he was trying to get her to date him "just so I know what it's like to f*ck a black chick." From what I could tell, he has no interest in her beyond that, and he even made some pretty ugly racial comments in general. I wanted to go right in there and fire him on the spot. The problem is, he's very important to us technically, and it would be difficult to quickly replace him. (I'm going to look into that anyway, and that's not my question. I'm not interested nor expecting in any advice on that.)

My question is, other than immediate termination, how would you handle this situation?



well it's a tough decision for me as well as it would be you, the screw a black chick line isn't bad except it was inappropriate for the "workplace", I mean if she heard that it's a law suit, I don't know the other racial stuff he said but if this stuff was to reach back to her and she found out me the "manager" did nothing it's like losing 2 employees, I'd atleast have a talk with the guy,
Personally don't care if someone is racist or not it affects them more than me, but if it disrupts the workplace that's when it's a problem.
 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 170
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 8:29:56 PM


So OP, what DID you do?Pray tell..


I water-boarded him. What else?

You're never going to get it out of him, after starting the thread and inviting strangers to give advice on the fate of an employee he's overheard, he now arrogantly assumes the moral high-ground (which he never had anyway by coming on this thread) by keeping 'mum' about it.
 isnuttinfree
Joined: 7/9/2009
Msg: 172
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 11:14:30 PM
This is only my personal opinion for debating purposes only, it doesn't account for the legalities which you need to find out for yourself OP....

Unless you had given prior instruction on workplace harrassment to your employees (eg when they joined) I don't see how you have any real recourse..other than informally speaking to him about your concerns privately.. then immediately follow-up with educating your employees in a group situation. And that only if said instruction had been given prior, could you have grounds to reprimand..document, warning etc. Even so, as it occurred after business hours and therefore on the employee's private time albeit still on work premises and in a non-overt manner?, IMO I think an informal discussion is all that is warranted BUT have a meeting with ALL your employees, reminding them of their obligations. If it occured within work hours, at an office function etc then disciplinary procedures can be enforced.
 TuffGuy666
Joined: 11/22/2011
Msg: 173
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 12/15/2011 11:56:01 AM
"My question is, other than immediate termination, how would you handle this situation?"

Cane him like they do in Singapore. Water boarding sounds pretty good too.
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