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 *topchef*
Joined: 8/2/2008
Msg: 476
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Wow...just wow!

If ever there was a thread to puncture a whole in the heart of love, this is it.

Fools rush in....where wise men (and women) fear to tread.

So be wise, and before you choose to mix your assets, consider what you might lose in the harsh light of day, when the love has vanished and the cold reality of bitterness and revenge takes its place and you become embattled in a fight to hold on to whatever you worked so hard to achieve.... and seemingly hold so dear.

And as Margo says...Prenup, prenup, prenup!!!
 Hiiwayman
Joined: 2/23/2010
Msg: 477
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 9:14:45 PM
Careful now Evil. Your gonna hurt these females feelers now. You know how much they HATE hearing the truth. LOL Glad to see there is someone besides myself that see's this BS for what it is. But we will never see it change for the better. Not in our lifetimes anyway.
 Wishes Granted
Joined: 3/6/2008
Msg: 478
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 9:29:48 PM

EDIT to add: another falacy added to this thread 7 of 10 men get custody! hahaha LOL
As you know.. I said the 7 out of 10 was the "correct" answer on a Trivial Persuit game question.. And, as you know, I also said that I hadn't done any research to see if that 7 out of 10 was correct. I have a feeling that if 10 men actually requested to be the main custodial parent then, the answer may have some validity.

Many men are still rather quite bitter it would appear.
 mr.evil
Joined: 11/14/2009
Msg: 479
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 9:30:03 PM
Prenup, yeah to some degree I do agree! Cept for one thing, since they are designed from satan's spawn the blood sucking lawyers, they can be mitigated or broken!!!

Hey while we're at it, let's talk dating!!! Always good for a few laughs. Women jump on here everyday and b1tch about the married guys, the bald guys, the overweight guys and of course the guys with a 10 year old picture!!

How about the women? Hey guys let them know who YOU get to meet!!

Let's see who were my favs: the one who hid behind the plant at the entrance to the restaurant, said she couldn't decide if she could trust me at dinner! The ones who rival the guys who are rednecks! The one who's personality was a cross between Timothy Leary and Charles Manson she took so many meds!The one who just finished her 4th divorce. The one who ordered 2 apps and soup then asked for her entre to be wrapped to go, then said it was late and we should do it again so time! hahahaha

Oh boohoo, they never listen to me, that's because you keep saying you get your dating advice from your cat, AFTER you take your evening meds!!!!!

C'mon ladies, admit it, ALL you wanted was your "white party", your special day. After that it was alll down hill, if you could have you would have flushed him with your last BM. There is no such thing as commitment anymore, just something that you 'try' for a few days, then your bored and looking for more.

What a farse!!!! hahahaha

edit to add: I spent a small fortune, well over $30K trying for custody. Know what I got for my trouble, my EX's lawyer, a woman(b1tch in english) primed my kids to lie on the stand, said mom wouldn't be OK without the CS! Yay women, stick together!
 *topchef*
Joined: 8/2/2008
Msg: 480
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 9:38:48 PM
Be what you want to attract.
 ItsMargo
Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 481
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 9:55:00 PM
I can well appreciate the comments by several posters that marriage (or living together for that matter) is different than a business deal. It's all about the lurve. Thing is, something one should NEVER forget, family law considers divorce to be the dissolution of the FINANCIAL relationship. They aren't considering any of the emotional parts.

So again, before one lives with someone or marries, set aside the love partof it all and have some very clear conversation about the business end of marriage and how you'll handle finances throughout the relationship and especially on dissolution.

People would be much better off if - before moving to a permanent relationship - they set aside love and dealt with the realities of the financial relationship. Of course, many are reluctant to do this because it isn't romantic. LMAO, never saw a romantic divorce.

Truly, the only asset that I have a huge problem with anyone splitting any way other than 50-50 is the marital home and its contents.

I have a huge problem with it. Especially before you've been together a decade or so. By the time you've been together a decade things are pretty much merged for most people. I support prenups that have deadlines - and it should be pretty much "take what you came with" before the 5th anniversary.

'course anniversary date amounts just create a different problem. Like the SO who pulled the plug ONE day after they hit the 10 year full division of assets marker. HA! Didn't even wait a week and stage a big fight as an excuse to pull the plug. In someways, I almost weirdly respect that ballsy "I'm just gonna come right out and tell ya I'm fuking you over" bit - at least it is right there in the open who and what you're dealing with, has to be marginally better than the manipulative ones who smile so sweetly to your face while they turn the screw behind your back.
 ohwhynot46
Joined: 6/28/2009
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 10:01:28 PM

When we split, I got hammered on alimony and CS, know what, I didn't like it one bit. BUT I knew my EX hadn't worked but 3 months in our entire marriage, so if I didn't want my kids to starve, I'd have to pay.


Thank you, MrEvil, for that is exactly the point! These forums are not indicative of what goes on in the real world, for the most part. Even you, who spew hatred towards the opposite gender & abhor marriage, realize that when it comes down to what is important, do the right thing. Most of us do. That you feel you were somehow wronged clearly has an impact on your choice of future relationships, but it doesn't seem to color your sense of reason where it counts, even if it clouds your ability to comprehend. Those of us who are capable of seeing beyond the merely personal acknowledge that although there is unfairness in the world, there is common sense as well. Fortunately your words posted here do not seem to match your (past) actions. We will not know if a woman would have to be an axe murderer for a man to get custody, until more men attempt it. It IS true that when men seek custody, they are more likely than not to prevail. Whether this be because only the men whose exes are so incompetent at parenting, or so poor as to not be able to afford to fight, or file/prevail due to some other reason, is not known. Why? Because the statistic alone doesn't tell us, just as the statistic regarding who files for divorce tells us little about why. This isn't misandry, it's the truth. Why this fact sparks such venom is known only to those who spew the venom, but it doesn't change the fact.
 theforumfiend
Joined: 10/21/2007
Msg: 483
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/29/2010 11:23:52 PM
Wait a minute. Mr Evil started in this thread much more open minded (see post 267). He only started becoming negative with all the nastiness going on in this thread.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 484
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 12:44:50 AM

Marriages aren't business deals..they are loving relationships...you can not quantify what either partner does that doesn't bring in money.


This is what I have been waiting for!!!!

You are 100% correct on this. HOWEVER when a divorce is the answer it is devolved just like a contract!!!
It becomes a business deal.I have seen couple after couple fight and argue about money. The court favors the woman in MOST cases!!!
Maybe not in yours but most. The playing field should be leveled!!!!
That is what I am saying!!!
It is illegal to not provide child support in the state of GA yet a judge signed a order letting both the mothers give me custody WITHOUT SUPPORT from either.

I was just happy to get my children and raise them.
Though I didn't get support after custody changed they both got child support from me before the change in custody.
Now tell me the court system is not loaded in the favor of the woman!!!
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 485
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 5:55:37 AM

If ever there was a thread to puncture a whole in the heart of love, this is it.
No kidding. Well, this thread has been derailed with unnecessary and hostile anecdotes about "dating experiences."

Gentlemen (and I use the term loosely), where were your sensibilities when you fell for this crap? Honestly, bemoaning the prospect of things not changing in your lifetime .... How many laws do we need to protect people from their own stupidity? Do we need to print a warning on the marriage certificate that is as vapid and futile as that found on a cup of coffee - warning: this beverage may be hot! Maybe the license should say "Warning: this institution not suitable for those who find themselves attracted to hawtness above all other qualities, who can only think with their d!cks, who have a broken picker, who will disparge others for their history or number of children they may have AFTER they go out with them and know this in advance, etc., etc." This crap about laws changing to protect people from their own ridiculous behavior has really reached its zenith.

The only way things will change is by taking responsibility for your own choices. If you suck at it - don't get married again and again and again. I hear yawn say that he had the SAME story with both wives and getting custody of the two kids he had with each and railing about how he receives no support? WTF? These women must have been real winners for him to get custody (that has been pointed out MANY times in the thread - Evil says they need to be an axe muderer, after all). So you repeatedly pick losers who don't have the income to contribute to raising children, are her escort at the "white party," impregnate her and yet do this OVER AND OVER, then cry about being taken advantage of?

Then DON'T GET MARRIED! Abolish marriage?!?! Why does the law have to take responsibility for idiots who can't make decent decisions? Are you telling me that people are too stupid to learn from their mistakes? I guess so, based on yawn's story. It sounds as if the women you pick have no redeeming character traits and are predatory vultures or golddigging serpents with jugs (haha - inside joke ) so whose fault is it when you keep repeating your mistakes?
Spare all the women in your path - I implore you ... DON'T GET MARRIED! DON'T GET MARRIED! DON'T GET MARRIED! DON'T GET MARRIED! Then you won't have your own mistakes to blame for coming here and bleeding your pain, fear and hate through the venemous assertions you have made!

Bitter, jaded, cynical, hateful, vindictive, denigrating, demeaning and derisive don't even begin to describe the direction this thread has gone.
 happybunny8
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 486
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 5:56:44 AM
I wonder if anyone has EVER asked a successful couple why they have success? As someone else on here said - marriage counselling BEFORE. Seems like a good thing to ask to me.


<div class='quote'>Heres the thing... There is no way possible another person can make someone happy. The problem is when my ex wife said she was unhappy, the reality was she was unhappy with her own self. So when she came to me saying that she was unhappy and that we need marriage counselling I agreed and went.

Good point, do you think that she was happy before you guys got married? I once dated a man who only seemed happy when he was in relationships. I found that bizarre. I think a lot of people have this romantic notion about marriage, and don't get me wrong being with someone you love is romantic; but add in kids and the stress of every day life and marriage is a hell of a lot more than what most people think it is. I think we are all guilty of having the romantic thoughts even though we know better. I was taught the "work" of marriage by watching my parents who went through a LOT of sh*t. But others would claim that they have no romance and must not be happy because they simply stuck together all these years. Seems people can't win today no matter what opinion you hold. I still maintain staying together and trying to be the way to go, but what do I know?

Mr. Evil, I cannot for the life of me figure out why a court would make you pay your ex for supporting a 21 year old. And I'm really sorry that your kids were convinved to go against you, that's simply wrong. I was paying rent at that age. And no, my parents didn't save it up for me for later either, which is what most kids get today, it was done to help ME in life. I really think that we are headed for even worse times when it comes to women who "have everything" simply based on what I see everyday in how most kids are raised. I'm not placing blame, but we really have to look at that as to why we have turned out the way we have.

Our parents told us to be independant and have our own money, our own jobs but never told us that we should not be expecting less from men (I don't mean this in a bad way) because women are now in the working force.

As someone who has remained single for a long time and watched men being used for their money and left when women were bored, I DO know what the men are saying. But I also get where some women are coming from too.

And I agree with Mr. Evil on the dates thing. I have never had a bad date (some weird occurances, some guys who needed help learning manners with their cell phones, but no horror stories really). Whereas, I've had men tell me some really bad stories and I just don't get it.



<div class='quote'>Ya know, I never counted a friggin dime. Yeah I saved and invested, but my family wanted for NOTHING, let me repeat that for the tone deaf bitties! N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!!

You were simply taking care of your family which is what men are taught and is something that goes very underappreciated (I've seen it), but do you wonder now if giving them everything was really the thing to do? People who do not have to work for anything often become "used to it", it is almost human nature to allow things to pass for granted in our busy world. My friend told me a story last night of her sister-in-law's BF who doesn't work, yet here are the parents giving him a free house to live in, the other parents buying them a lawn-mower etc. These are 40 year old adults.

Is that the way to get things in today's world? Become a lazy azz mooch?! Here I have been working all these years with a disability when I could have been mooching off folks? LOL. Too much!


<div class='quote'>You don't see what we get on the other side. Love the Q&A what kinda job do you have? or How much CS and alimony do you pay? or Do you own your own home? or Do you lease that BMW? hahaha

Actually I know all about that - the men I have met tell me all about it. See, I've found that most men "like" me, they think I'm cool. But I'm not romantic enough for them, because of what I've went through it takes me longer to get to know someone, but then I'm accused of being cold *shrug*.


So you repeatedly pick losers who don't have the income to contribute to raising children, are her escort at the "white party," impregnate her and yet do this OVER AND OVER, then cry about being taken advantage of?


Thank you. See my post above. I have been dumped a few times for the woman that all men think is the bomb, meanwhile she is just looking for a free ride for her and her kids. But because she's romantic and dewy eyed (like a man wants a woman to be), he falls for her. Don't get me wrong, it's natural but we have to start accepting responsibility for what we do.

And another thing, if I were someone who did care about all those things wouldn't I be smart to NOT ask them from the get-go? Wouldn't it be better for me to act all feminine and dewy eyed and "capture them in my web"? Gawd. As I always say at least they are showing who they are sooner rather than later so count yourself lucky.

I've dated men where I did not know what their job was for almost 5 dates. Big whoop. I could care less if a man owns a home - I'd rather rent with someone than move into a house with them for the first time. It's none of my business how much CS and alimony he pays and frankly I can't believe that women even ask that question. That information will only apply once we live together and are putting together our monthly budget. I have never known any of my SO's paycheck amounts.

Wow. I guess for all my damage that I think I'm not good enough for someone really makes me a prize based on this. LOL.

You see there is more to it than just finding someone nice.


<div class='quote'>But we will never see it change for the better. Not in our lifetimes anyway.

People will need to start raising children differently and things will change. You are all at the mercy of the stereotypes of how to treat boys and girls. It starts even before they are born.
 luckyhot777s
Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 487
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:12:08 AM

Bitter, jaded, cynical, hateful, vindictive, denigrating, demeaning and derisive doesn't even begin to describe the direction this thread has gone.


Oh come on...we see just as many complaints about men on here...and a lot of times, the same thing about picking the right ones can be said about the ones who do the complaining.....

Sure some men think with the wrong head, in retrospect some women think with their emotional needs and not common sense.

It seems whenever complaints about women come out..so does the old defence mechanism to make defense, but when the complaints about men come out, we are just to accept it?

Boy, does that sound familiar....rotf....
 luckyhot777s
Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 488
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:17:55 AM

Women say "Sure there are women like that, but most women aren't that interested in money; they want a good relationship. They want a man who knows how to listen, who'll take her concerns seriously, who'll work on the relationship"


This all may be true, but everything you mentioned had her in it....what she wants, her concerns, etc....how she wants the relation, etc.

But men have their concerns too and how they want things....so, by your statement...women not only don't listen, some don't even concider, he might have concerns and wants to.

Thanks for clarifying that....
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 489
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:29:47 AM
It shouls be mandatory that anyone who is seriously thinking of getting married or living common law, should read these posts.

I, for one, am sooooo never EVER even going to attempt common law or marriage...

Nope... not for me...
If this thread isn't a cure for any thoughts of entangling your body, mind, soul and finances, I don't know what is.

The unhappiness on this site is pervasive which makes it harder and harder to want to be a part of it. No wonder I have been around much less. New horizons await.
 happybunny8
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 490
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:44:29 AM
Here's another story.

Last year, I went to a social event. There was an attractive woman there. She was blonde, fit, quite tall with long legs, had a soft voice with an accent, she always wears skirts. She is attractive physically to both men and women. You notice her.

I also observed all the men's reactions to her. They all think she is the nicest person ever! They are attracted to her like bees to honey. And let me tell you, she's not all that intelligent either; in fact she comes across as a dumb blonde to be truthful.

I don't know her that well, but within a year she has managed to have been engaged, then the engagement gone and is now dating a new guy!

Wow. When my engagement was broken off, there was no way I could date so soon afterwards; I was grieving the loss of the relationship.

Dunno, but I have a feeling that this woman is looking for a man to "take care of her and her daughter". I could be wrong, but I've seen her type many times.

An older man once told me that he was prey to bad choices in women because of his ego. He got screwed out of his money and sanity a few times, yet continued to go after the same type of woman, and he never regretted any of it.

So Mr. Evil's suggestion of when finding a woman that is this, that and the other thing hold on to her? Well, the problem is that most men will never find a woman like that simply because their ego and penis will lead them to the type I mentionned above.

It's natural and I just find it interesting that some people don't see this for what it is and simply accept the consequences that go with the choices we make. This is not just directed at men, but at women and the bad choices in men they make.

We are destined to make the same choices in mates all the time. Hard wiring.
 4ms4me
Joined: 4/24/2010
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:44:50 AM

Mr Evil started in this thread much more open minded (see post 267). He only started becoming negative with all the nastiness going on in this thread

You mean, the nastiness initiated by a man in post #5 "Women are far too fickle for their own good" and "Too many livin' in a fairytale vacuum where the real world doesn't apply, and they feel entitled to this that and the next thing...and woe be the man that can't read her mind or "between the lines". In short, woe be the man that doesn't "get"her and her *ahem* "needs"."

And #6 more male nastiness; the first nasty comment by a female happened in Post #15.

Post #21 ... another man. #22, female. #33, female. #47, male. #54, female. #55 male. #69, male. #72, female.

I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point. Men initiated the nastiness in this thread and are just as culpable as the females throughout - so why should MrE be railing against women, but not men based on "thread nastiness"?

Oh yeah, for the record ... in my personal experience, based on what's happened with my family and friends, men do not ever pay child support unless forced; most women don't force the issue so the government has taken it on. Also, in my personal experience, women do not get alimony, in part because they'd rather live poor & independent than take money from a guy. So I guess I could safely conclude that men are selfish and greedy, without even the basic dignity and honor to take care of their own children. But being an emotional woman rather than a logical man, I think most men are actually rather decent.

Oh yeah, both my brother and my son have full custody of their children, and I recently read of another case where the man got custody of his kids when mom ran out of money to keep fighting for custody. Of couse, these two anecdotes won't have much validity for some of the men on here, since they don't support the "man as victim" experience.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 492
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:50:08 AM
Men who don't want to lose money during a divorce to a woman who doesn't work chooses that woman. There's a thread somewhere with a bunch of men in it going on and on about how they won't date a woman with a career because they end up (GASP) getting less attention. "I won't be further down on the list than her boss/
I won't be an option to her because she's tired after a 90 hour week", or similar...so they choose women who don't have any life ambition so they can't be ignored. Sorry, but doing this puts you in a situation where you'll lose shit if you marry her for paying so much attention to you.

Men who don't want to lose money during a divorce due to kids chose to have those kids. I agree that those men should both get fixed and seek women who don't want kids. Those women are probably career woman too tho huh? In the end it's all about how much of a man he feels like and how much he feels he's needed in her life.

Then there's the subject of men who can't honestly handle a woman who makes more than he does, even though in a divorce situation he'll probably make out better - the ego is still too much a part of the equation. I was talking to a couple of married classmates last night and one actually said "my wife makes more than I do, and I know it shouldn't bother me, but it JUST DOES." I bit my tongue. Who cares who makes more? Anyway...

It's a choice - marry your financial equal or a woman who makes more and get over the fact that she may not be able to spend every waking moment catering to you, or marry a woman who's got all the time in the world for you, and get over the fact that your salary is probably going to be the main means to support you both.
 happybunny8
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 493
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 6:54:38 AM

I won't be an option to her because she's tired after a 90 hour week", or similar...so they choose women who don't have any life ambition so they can't be ignored.


Oh well, at least they know how women used to feel. LOL.
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 494
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 7:05:03 AM


Bitter, jaded, cynical, hateful, vindictive, denigrating, demeaning and derisive doesn't even begin to describe the direction this thread has gone.



Oh come on...we see just as many complaints about men on here...and a lot of times, the same thing about picking the right ones can be said about the ones who do the complaining......

How's that dismissive attitude working for you?
 4ms4me
Joined: 4/24/2010
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Posted: 4/30/2010 7:56:21 AM

This all may be true, but everything you mentioned had her in it....what she wants, her concerns, etc....how she wants the relation, etc.
But men have their concerns too and how they want things....so, .

What was the OPs question again? "Why do women initiate breakups?", wasn't it? So I talked about one reason women are so dissatisfied in their marriage/relationship that they initiate ending it.

Is there some other question I should have responded to? One that perhaps focused on the reasons why a man would be dissatisfied in his marriage/relationship?


by your statement...women not only don't listen, some don't even concider, he might have concerns and wants to.
Thanks for clarifying that....

I don't see how you got that from my statement; since I was answering a specific question asked about women and using examples from this thread to illustrate my point, I do not know why you'd expect me to also address a different issue - other than trying to dismiss/invalidate what I (and other women) have said.

If you want to discuss concerns of men, perhaps try starting another thread - entitled, for instance, "What do women believe are the concerns and wants of men in a relationship?"

I'll even give you my answer, just to get you started ...
Men want to be respected in a relationship, and they want loyalty. They'd like a healthy and fully-engaged sexual partner; they'd like to feel appreciated, heard and understood. I think it's not really a lot different from what women want, ultimately.

I'm not going to claim I've always known what men want or need (other than sex) in a relationship. It took time, mistakes and maturity for me to both learn and practice what I've learned. Thing is, I had to look at myself and look at what I did wrong in the context of each relationship in order to learn to do better. I didn't comfort myself by absolving myself of any mistakes because of what he did (or didn't do). I know why I left relationships and I know also my worst moments in those relationships, which moments really ought to have made the guys glad I left - yet they found enough value in me and what I gave them, to want to stay together, so either they were stupid or I wasn't all that bad to live with, despite those bad moments. I learned from those relationships and I'm happy to say that at least in my ex-husband's case, he learned some stuff as well - at least according to his current wife.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 496
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 8:32:14 AM


The only way things will change is by taking responsibility for your own choices. If you suck at it - don't get married again and again and again. I hear yawn say that he had the SAME story with both wives and getting custody of the two kids he had with each and railing about how he receives no support? WTF? These women must have been real winners for him to get custody (that has been pointed out MANY times in the thread - Evil says they need to be an axe muderer, after all). So you repeatedly pick losers who don't have the income to contribute to raising children, are her escort at the "white party," impregnate her and yet do this OVER AND OVER, then cry about being taken advantage of?

Then DON'T GET MARRIED! Abolish marriage?!?! Why does the law have to take responsibility for idiots who can't make decent decisions? Are you telling me that people are too stupid to learn from their mistakes? I guess so, based on yawn's story. It sounds as if the women you pick have no redeeming character traits and are predatory vultures or golddigging


Glad you brought this up.
Funny thing is that neither was like this when we were dating.......Hummmmm Could that possibly mean they misrepresented themselves?!?!?!?.....No a woman would never do such a thing!!!!!
The last one even gloated that she was a great actor!!!!!
It was a pleasure to hear her rant over the phone about how she was only getting to keep less than $10,000.00 of the assets.......That is what she had already taken with her.

To clear things up the first was Bi-polar we married after high school and she wouldn't hold a job. Thought it was her duty in life to eat and watch soap operas!!!
Yet in school was a straight A student in the top 5% of her class. Got into Who's who of high school students in three categories. Was in several clubs and the editor of the annual..........Tell me did I make a bad choice or did she just decide that she had a good man and could ride him?

BTW to date she has been married FIVE times now and if nothing has changed she is currently married to two men at the same time now!!!
She had twins from her second marriage that her MOTHER had to take from her.
If you think I am being mean on the eating thing when we met she was 4'11" and 95 pounds......now she is still 4'11" but is 235 pounds the last time my daughter and I spoke of her.

The second was a great wife and helped with my children for nine years we were happy had disagreements but never a fight or argument.
She worked and made good money took home $800.00 a week of which we decided she would only have to pay the light bill and grocery's for our home. I paid everything else!!!

Our problem started when one of her clients at the accounting office she worked at started coming on to her. He was a millionaire and she and him started an affair. Lasting two years till finally he offered her $100,000.00 to leave me and marry him. That also included $2,000.00 a week for being his wife.

Both these ladies and I use that term loosely put forth real effort to show a person they really was not or turned into something that didn't even resemble the person I dated courted and married!!!!
I have never said all women are evil fact is I have said most are good people. Yet the women on this thread have made blanket statements of how men are evil and to blame for all divorce. Not one refuted that statement!!!!

We may in fact make bad choices however do we do it with the knowledge of who that person really is? Or are there the women out there that make a living out of marring and divorcing a good man?
I will agree that there are men that do the same but in MUCH smaller numbers.

I think this thread has shown a great deal of how men and women think and act. Just the reaction of the women when I said with 70% of the filing done by women and 30% by men the chances are that most of these women didn't have a real ground for the divorce.
The ones that a person use to have to prove to get a divorce.

As I said I have no desire to remarry and with the abundance of ladies out there that just want to have fun I doubt I will suffer sexually. Matter of fact I have been as active or more so than I was while married!!!!!
While all men will never get this angle figured out a lot more of us are!!!
So by these women treating us this way the smart ones are learning.........as I said we have had two twenty-something guys put it in their own words on this thread!!!

So to the it is all about me ladies keep it up but you may find you don't have a large as a selection as you did have!!!
 4ms4me
Joined: 4/24/2010
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 8:50:03 AM

So to the it is all about me ladies keep it up but you may find you don't have a large as a selection as you did have!!!

Love it when guys try to use "we won't marry you" to scare women into ... well I'm not sure what, exactly?? Especially on a thread in which they're complaing that more women than men leave marriages - and for what? Other men who will also marry them.

Too funny.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 9:28:51 AM

Love it when guys try to use "we won't marry you" to scare women into ... well I'm not sure what, exactly?? Especially on a thread in which they're complaing that more women than men leave marriages - and for what? Other men who will also marry them.

Too funny.


Really you find it funny that when a woman was ranting about "then don't get married" And a man answers I'm NOT!!!
You accuse the man of trying to use I won't marry you as a weapon!!!!!

What is funny to me is even though it was the woman ranting and the man agreeing you think the man has the attitude!!!!!

Great line of logic you have there......I wonder why I can see that point of view.........Wait I think I figured it out I just can get my head that far up my............!!!!!
 x_file_
Joined: 9/30/2009
Msg: 499
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 9:29:06 AM

Where are the proofs you speak of? Explicitly state/quote them, and explain them - if you can find them.


Dude, are you seriously this thick headed? That argument was deconstructed and rebutted several times, pages ago. I can't help it if you are incapable of comprehending.



Then you should have no problem quoting and explaining the argument, dummy. But I bet you can't, because YOU are incapable of comprehending.



You don't know logic. You don't know the form of my argument, let alone if the form is wrong. You are a liar.


It must be very difficult for you to make sense of the world around you, considering that you cannot discern sarcasm from lying.



In other words, you can't state the form of my argument and offer your reasoning as to why my argument is wrong. You are resorting to deflection and tangents, because you can't answer the question. And I bet your next reply will be no different - which will be further evidence that you don't know what you are talking about.

Even if you were sarcastic, you are also a liar, delusional, and incapable of logic.
 DragNFlyBuzzez
Joined: 12/9/2009
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/30/2010 9:29:35 AM
^^^^^^^^^ This thread is amazing,
Did you ever think the women uses her kids as a excuse to get a day off work?

I noticeed the fruedian slip on: ones that are in serious relashionships .............

yes, each person getting lashed is what 70% of both sides end up with.

I agree, this thread has shown why the sides both men and women are so far apart!!

on the way to my attorney for my never ending divorce...........yes I started it over 2 yrs ago
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