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 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
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Because we live in a society where it's now considered normal to spoil children rotten and never deny them anything they want and demand, children expect the same treatment in adulthood. From childhood, girls are fantasizing about the dream wedding where money's no object, they are the princess for the day, then living in a McMansion palace, having perfect kids, spending thousands of dollars every week or month at the mall buying the latest fashions and traveling to exotic places. Most guys just go with the flow and usually live one day at a time.

When the fairy tale wedding is over, girls are faced with the reality of having to live with the person they married. If reality doesn't live up to fantasy, it's the beginning of the end. Many women think that shows like "Housewives of Orange County", "H.W. of New York" and their genre is how a typical woman lives. Women become resentful and bitter when the bubble bursts. The next phase is the blame game. It's the guy's fault that she isn't living in a fantasy world with perfect everything and is not happy. Lots of times, this leads to either partner cheating or alcohol or drug abuse to escape reality, which leads to divorce-usually initiated be women.
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 127
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/10/2010 3:16:00 PM
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?

Don't think they do. They may *file* for divorce that often. I filed both times -- the first time I left him; the second time he left me, but didn't file. . . . after three years, I did. I think he felt not divorcing me saved him from marrying her. And sho nuff, a month after the divorce, she *accidentally* got preggers, so he married her. I left her less than a year later for another one. Never heard who filed for that divorce, but he married the one he left her for.

Just a note: I paid for both of my divorces, too.

Another note: men may be ordered to pay child support more, but evidently two thirds of them don't actually pay it. . . .

 Wishes Granted
Joined: 3/6/2008
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/10/2010 3:16:20 PM
Women may have more options to be able to get a "cab" anytime we want.. Unfortunately we have to by-pass flagging down 99% of them because the 'cabbie' is just not who we want driving us.

Oh what a simple and bountiful life it would be if woman actually connected with every cab that swung by and, that they were'nt judged by the many other cabbies on how many cabs they've already taken. .. lol ..

IMO: Women file 80% of the time because more men than women are too apathetic to bother.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 129
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/11/2010 9:00:53 AM

Like I keep saying, men seem to not be able to stop "looking" or "needing" women - man's weakness is sex and women.


yes it is our weakness- however, if it did not exist do you think men would ever chase women at all?



Whereas women seem to be able to have fruitful lives without worrying about "getting a man" all the time.


Well- when you say "getting a man" here, I assume you are speaking of sexually. And yes of course most all women never have to worry about getting sex because we all know all a woman has to do is walk outside, point and say "hey you, I have an itch that needs to be scratched" and it will get scratched.

that is a footnote to the difference of a slut and a stud...

I'd be curious to go back to see if you replied to one of those threads and see if your reply over there differs from what you just posted...


HOWEVER- women have to worry about 'getting a man' in the way they want to "have a man"

both genders have their trials and difficulties getting what they want from the other sex.

no need to pity either for our inherent difficutlties...


It must be exhausting and frustrating.


it can be from time to time, there are ebbs and flows, it comes in waves and it goes away in waves...

sometimes women are lining up at your door and other times not so much so...
 ohwhynot46
Joined: 6/28/2009
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Posted: 4/13/2010 8:46:01 PM
Interesting, in that to initiate is to take the first step. It might be difficult to define the "first step" in a breakup, but I am fairly sure that it is not taken by women 80% of the time. Many is the woman who, realizing that there was a problem, whether it be communication, money issues, loneliness, etc. tries to get her partner to work with her & fix the problem, and many is the man who either refused or simply ignored the request. So, when she files for divorce, does that mean she "initiated" the breakup? I say no. Taking the initiative may be more accurate, however, and only provides fodder for the argument that women are more able than men.
 Rarebird76
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 131
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/13/2010 9:20:00 PM
Pre-emptive breakups! This is your tool men (in addition to your 'other' tool located in your pantaloons). When your relationship is going well yet has not yet reached the inevitable 'she's bored with you' stage.... Breakup before you even get to that point! Just out of the blue when she thinks all is well drop the drama dragon. Take back your man POWAH! The message sent to her will be you are a ruthless nutter who can cut ties at the drop of a hat (and she'll probably think that's hot then become re-attracted to you for displaying your non- neediness).

Don't laugh!
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 132
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/13/2010 9:26:25 PM

Pre-emptive breakups! This is your tool men (in addition to your 'other' tool located in your pantaloons). When your relationship is going well yet has not yet reached the inevitable 'she's bored with you' stage.... Breakup before you even get to that point! Just out of the blue when she thinks all is well drop the drama dragon. Take back your man POWAH! The message sent to her will be you are a ruthless nutter who can cut ties at the drop of a hat (and she'll probably think that's hot then become re-attracted to you for displaying your non- neediness).

Don't laugh!



oh man if you ain't never spoke the truth...

that's what is so crazy about women...
 ohwhynot46
Joined: 6/28/2009
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Posted: 4/13/2010 10:05:15 PM

oh man if you ain't never spoke the truth...

that's what is so crazy about women...


Only the truth if you choose to date girls, not women. That is a very immature view, if you ask me, and will only prolong what is obviously an unhealthy relationship. Game playing is never attractive to those of us mature enough to recognize it for what it is.
 mr.evil
Joined: 11/14/2009
Msg: 134
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/13/2010 10:40:38 PM
WOW another thread filled with half truths, misinformation and head in the sand thinking! Real surpirse here, NOT!!!

You could fill a book with all the reasons and still not have it covered. First off, a generally accepted number is 70% or so of divorces are filed by women. So I don't doubt 80% of break ups come from women. Who cares? Won't stop women from doing it, won't make men recognize their part in it.

To begin with, most men suck at communication. So as problems arise, women ask to talk, men don't talk. Then the women begin to b1tch, men turn a deaf ear or go "uh-huh", then she gets exhausted from trying and bails, does this surprise anyone?

Changes in roles hasn't helped either. Women do most of the house work, men USED to make all of the money. Now she has to get a job just to make ends meet, and STILL do most of the housework. Ain't gonna make her happy, but does the guy notice, nahh!

Next face the facts guys, the women of today are not the same as the women of bygone era's. She's not gonna see her role as homemaker the same as it was years ago. There's nothing rewarding about vacuming, cooking, laundry and dusting. A job and social interaction is much more satisfying, than being at home alone or worse with kids.

Finally men are more likely to live with a bad situation than women will. It's not in their nature. For years a guy will put up with things or make do. Men won't care if carpet gets old. Men won't care if they live in the same house for 30 years. It's just how it is. Women want it changed, fixed, or modernized and organized. Men really don't care.

Now I only read the last 5 pages, all the women either joked, clucked they didn't do it or made excuses. Only one admitted to it. So if men say it's so, why didn't the women who DID DO IT, admit it? Because their cowards and sneaky, the ones who do it, won't come on and admit it and get labasted for it, they just giggle and hit the back button.

How many guys have come home to a woman walking out with her sh1t. That's because she planned it, without telling you, just her gal pals who helped her plan it. She put the money aside, rented the apartment, got her ducks in a row and left your azz. Some just stick around planning it as the kids are finishing school. Some get abused and figure out how to bail.

Face it guys, if you want a woman to stay with you, you need to partner up, if she works, then you do housework also. If you have kids, you need to participate, just like she does. You also need to learn how to communicate, listen to her problems and help solve them. Just like she should with yours. If this isn't what you want, don't get married or live with her, just the way it is.

BUT remember, women will never admit it, but they are prone to remember every little thing you do wrong. They are also much more spiteful and vindictive than men. They tend to be petty, not only with you, but even with other women, it's just in their nature. So either accept the partnership concept and communicate, or just keep dating.

Do they do 80% of the breakups, yeah I'd say that's a good bet, so what.
 JerseyGirl2008
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 135
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 5:09:58 AM

To begin with, most men suck at communication. So as problems arise, women ask to talk, men don't talk. Then the women begin to b1tch, men turn a deaf ear or go "uh-huh", then she gets exhausted from trying and bails, does this surprise anyone?

This is so true in many cases.


Women do most of the house work, men USED to make all of the money. Now she has to get a job just to make ends meet, and STILL do most of the housework. Ain't gonna make her happy, but does the guy notice, nahh!

For a lot of women, you've hit the nail RIGHT on the head. Been there, done that, ain't doing it again. I know an awful lot of guys who think taking out the garbage or raking the yard in the fall is an equal contribution to what SHE does every single day (aside from her full-time job) - and it's NOT. That makes for tons of resentment.


Finally men are more likely to live with a bad situation than women will. It's not in their nature. For years a guy will put up with things or make do.

Again, this is absolutely true. He'll complain about how his marriage sucks, whine that he's not happy, but most of them will stay right where they are. Most women, however, will not - and I think that's why more divorces are initiated by women.


BUT remember, women will never admit it, but they are prone to remember every little thing you do wrong. They are also much more spiteful and vindictive than men. They tend to be petty, not only with you, but even with other women, it's just in their nature.

Not every single woman is like this, but there's definitely merit to this statement. I DO admit that I remember every little thing he does wrong! LOL.

Excellent post, Mr. Evil.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 136
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Posted: 4/14/2010 6:23:04 AM

You may not actually like women or value them for anything more than a f7ck but there are a lot of men who do actually like women as human beings not just as free porn just as there are women who actually like men for more than just cash and c7ck.



Yes you are correct...

to some degree.


HOWEVER- your arguement cannot overcome our natural predatorial instincts as human beings to procreate...

Nothing cynical at all about that....

I know I enjoy the hell out of being with a woman that I really find interesting and care about and love spending time with.

YET- if the sex is not there- that woman is just a friend...not a lover/mate...

Do you agree with that concept?
 Capitano_Blaugh
Joined: 3/18/2008
Msg: 137
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Posted: 4/14/2010 7:54:30 AM

Face it guys, if you want a woman to stay with you, you need to partner up, if she works, then you do housework also.


You know Evil, with all due respect, I think you are sounding like one 'a them women-folks....

.... you know the ones that believe that men are the only ones to blame for relationship failure.

I DID do at least as much housework, cooking, laundry etc as my ex did and it made zip difference in the end. I think that no matter what a guy does his partner is going to find fault with something, just because that's her nature. If you do the housework, you aren't doing it correctly. If you spend 50 hours at work every week and as many hours with the kids, you aren't spending enough time with her....

.... blaugh, blaugh, blaugh.....

AND, from my experience women love to blather on about communication, but they are not NEARLY the great communicators they think they are. Women tend to communicate AT their men, not commuincate WITH him. Women want the guy to listen, agree and do what she has communicated, but, like doing housework, she'll find SOME fault....

I agree, women are in a constant state of flux, I just don't agree that it should only be the men who make accomodations to maintain a good relationship.

 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 138
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 8:06:06 AM
Cappie - I disagree that women always find fault.

BTW - you should indent the first paragraph, capitalize your proper nouns and you misspelled "commuincate."
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 139
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 8:09:03 AM
Just wanted to point this out and make a comment - this response to WH's post that men seem to need dating more than women, and women aren't as concerned with "getting a man" as men seem to be doing in vice versa:

Well- when you say "getting a man" here, I assume you are speaking of sexually. And yes of course most all women never have to worry about getting sex because we all know all a woman has to do is walk outside, point and say "hey you, I have an itch that needs to be scratched" and it will get scratched.

I doubt she was talking about sex. I think she meant dating/pairing off. However it speaks volumes that you'd phrase it that way, as it's probably what you see as a valid reason to pursue dating. Projection.

Honestly, men can get laid just as easily - but they'd have to be less picky to do it. That's the only difference between men and women there. Most men know a woman they could sleep with - but may not want to. So it's no easier for us, we may just have more to choose from.

Still, what does getting laid have to do with "getting/finding a man"? For a lot of us, the two may not be connected....anyone can get laid. I think she was talking more in terms of the mistaken opinion that women are the ones who are always trying to find a relationship.
 mr.evil
Joined: 11/14/2009
Msg: 140
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 9:16:08 AM
Well good to see my fans and foes still love me! LOL

OK, nothing is edged in stone, no hard and fast in either gender, so here are some follow ups and some of the responses:

Maffers- "The car" yeah for sure there are still many women who don't appreciate the guy taking care of it, some do. This is reminiescent of guys who do laundry and throw in the red shirt with the whites in hot water. LOL Yeah and before I hear the women boast about I'll just take it to the lube place or mechanic, yeah right! You'll do that when it doesn't start and not before, just like the guys, never paid attention to mom doing the laundry, you never paid attention to dad caring for the car. So save the "I do, I do's" for someone who cares, the majority don't do it.

"not every single woman"

No BUT almost every woman knows more than one like that. It may sound harsh as I said it, but even you and others admitted to seeing the behavior in more than one.

Now whoa there Capitano my old friend,

Don't be goin to the dark side like the women often do on these threads and yell "not me, I did...", if you DID do it, you were like me, I did it also, only difference yours found fault more and more and things got worse, mine cheated, same result different cause.

Nor am I saying "ALL" women are great communicators. If they were conflict resolution and marriage counciling would be a shrinking industry. Women ARE more in touch with the need to discuss, men mostly want to put it behind them.

For me, nothing pizzed me off more than having done 2 dozen things well or right, then in some disagreement or argument, I'd get to listen to some obscure thing I did and we discussed several times, from 9 months ago. She used that BS gambit to press her point whatever it was to win a current disagreement. Other times should would bring up 3 or 4 of these things, I did over the past 3 years, I always wound up walking away from those discussions, because there was no way to resolve them.

If you (men and women) won't learn to communicate(talk and listen which means hear what the other is saying) and fight fair. You either live with it or leave. BUT if you stay, sooner or later resentment will boil over and someone will leave.
 Rarebird76
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 141
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Posted: 4/14/2010 11:00:33 AM

To begin with, most men suck at communication.
I'm great at it. Problem is why is it so few men ever feel the need to 'have the talk'? Maybe it's because we don't have many 'problems' that need to be resolved. I think it's basically just the inherent power ratio imbalance. Women can afford to be much more picky and demanding because it's generally much easier for them to 'land' a guy than it is for a guy to get a girl. It's the old beggars can't be choosers dynamic and guys are the beggars most often.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 142
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Posted: 4/14/2010 11:06:51 AM

I doubt she was talking about sex. I think she meant dating/pairing off. However it speaks volumes that you'd phrase it that way, as it's probably what you see as a valid reason to pursue dating. Projection.

Honestly, men can get laid just as easily - but they'd have to be less picky to do it. That's the only difference between men and women there. Most men know a woman they could sleep with - but may not want to. So it's no easier for us, we may just have more to choose from.

Still, what does getting laid have to do with "getting/finding a man"? For a lot of us, the two may not be connected....anyone can get laid. I think she was talking more in terms of the mistaken opinion that women are the ones who are always trying to find a relationship.


As a man- I know the desire and physical drive that I have and that most all men have to get laid. It is a major factor, if not one of the MOST important factor a man has to deal with as it revolves around trying to get with a woman...

Nothing wrong with that - its just how we are wired.

Well I personally do not like to be less picky just to get laid. Something about it just doesn't feel right when I have to just take what low lying fruit falls off the trees.

And as you said- women have more guys to choose from when they decide to get laid.

Also- if you know most women/men issues with getting into relationships- very rarely do you find men complaining that a woman is just using them for sex. You get far more women actively worried about being in a relationship it seems then men.

I also believe that the percentage of men wanting to get married after a divorce is lower than women wanting to get married again after a divorce...

Women are always as a rule pushing marriage and long term "commitment" then men are.

We're just wired different and we have different needs and desires as genders.


I also believe that many men, a large percentage of men are willing to be in a relationship for the sole reason of having a steady, consistent sexual partner...far more than women are looking for the same thing.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 143
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Posted: 4/14/2010 11:20:50 AM

As a man- I know the desire and physical drive that I have and that most all men have to get laid. It is a major factor, if not one of the MOST important factor a man has to deal with as it revolves around trying to get with a woman...Nothing wrong with that - its just how we are wired.

I don't believe men are wired to get laid and women aren't. I know a lot of men who are looking to settle down and a lot of women who want a boy toy who doesn't bother her when she's busy with other things. No matter your gender or wiring, it doesn't mean you have to blindly follow it or even entertain it should there be no option. It just seems like men are more in dating "don't want to be single" mode more often than women.

Well I personally do not like to be less picky just to get laid. Something about it just doesn't feel right when I have to just take what low lying fruit falls off the trees.

Well then you understand why women just won't have sex OR bother dating when we don't see anything we like, whereas I get the impression a lot more men will continue to date even when they don't necessarily have anything to work with.

And as you said- women have more guys to choose from when they decide to get laid.

True, but even in a room with 100 men to choose from, we may still either not be in the frame of mind to pair off, or find anything in that room that does it for us.

Also- if you know most women/men issues with getting into relationships- very rarely do you find men complaining that a woman is just using them for sex. You get far more women actively worried about being in a relationship it seems then men.

That's sort of an outdated thing, and can be propaganda. I think women tend to be more content not being in one IF all they have to choose from isn't anything they have preference for. When I was younger I was told by men and women that women were the emotional attached ones and the men were the wild untamed ones. As I got older I saw a LOT of evidence to the contrary, so I just don't buy that anymore. To me it's more often even or tipped in the other direction.

I also believe that the percentage of men wanting to get married after a divorce is lower than women wanting to get married again after a divorce...

Must be where you live. In my area, and in the forums and articles I see a LOT of women saying they don't see why they should live with or marry anyone, and a lot of men saying they'd do it again if it was the right situation.

Women are always as a rule pushing marriage and long term "commitment" then men are.

Again, it's got to be where you live or your perception. And I'm sure you don't mean "women" as in all women, since that's simply not the case.

We're just wired different and we have different needs and desires as genders.

BS. I've seen otherwise. I've DONE otherwise.

I also believe that many men, a large percentage of men are willing to be in a relationship for the sole reason of having a steady, consistent sexual partner...far more than women are looking for the same thing.

Again, I don't think we can say for sure which sex wants consistent sex more - more often it's the person and their views on sex and their personality - gender has nothing to do with sex drive.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 144
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 12:17:53 PM
It has been this way since women got the right to start divorce proceedings in the 1800's. If you don't believe me do a Google search on it.
Why that is a good question. I personally think it has to do with what I call the fairy tale syndrome.
When life does not match the happily ever after of the fairy tales they jump ship to another male that they think will be able to give them that ending.

I have been married twice both cheated after a time both came back wanting to reconcile.
Be careful what you wish for you might just get it.

Before you write and tell me how wrong I am the info is on the net takes all of 10 seconds to check!!!
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 145
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Posted: 4/14/2010 1:19:16 PM
Nice long post here. Did you bother to check the info on the web?.......I thought not. If you did you would have found many studies backing what I have posted. I choose my words carefully and always research the facts.
There are all types of reasons for divorce we are talking about why 80% are started by females.
Please stay on topic here and check the facts.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 146
how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 1:33:23 PM

I don't believe men are wired to get laid and women aren't. I know a lot of men who are looking to settle down and a lot of women who want a boy toy who doesn't bother her when she's busy with other things. No matter your gender or wiring, it doesn't mean you have to blindly follow it or even entertain it should there be no option. It just seems like men are more in dating "don't want to be single" mode more often than women.


No I never said we are wired to get laid and women are not. of course there are women that just want sex, just as there are men who want marriage.

However you cannot argue about the differences between the two genders. Women are wired when they mate- that they become pregnant and fall off the market at least for 9 months several times in their lives.

Women are also wired for their bodies to stop reproducing in their 40s.

Men never have a "down time" because they are pregnant and we can mate with many women while perhaps our 'primary' mate could be pregnant.

We are also able to reproduce and have the 'drive' to reproduce over a lifetime because we can.

These is a simple matter of genetic differents between the genders.


Well then you understand why women just won't have sex OR bother dating when we don't see anything we like, whereas I get the impression a lot more men will continue to date even when they don't necessarily have anything to work with.


Yes- but Many/most men I know are not quite so picky when it comes to just getting "some" if they are in a down cycle...


True, but even in a room with 100 men to choose from, we may still either not be in the frame of mind to pair off, or find anything in that room that does it for us.


most men are almost always in a frame of mind to pair off, even if nothing in the room really does it for us. if it is offered- most will accept. I believe more so than women.


That's sort of an outdated thing, and can be propaganda. I think women tend to be more content not being in one IF all they have to choose from isn't anything they have preference for. When I was younger I was told by men and women that women were the emotional attached ones and the men were the wild untamed ones. As I got older I saw a LOT of evidence to the contrary, so I just don't buy that anymore. To me it's more often even or tipped in the other direction.


I do agree that the dynamics have change somewhat between the genders in our western society. I think things were too far before when it was far more male dominated.

Now I believe it has swung too far the other way.

I believe we need to find a better balance.


Must be where you live. In my area, and in the forums and articles I see a LOT of women saying they don't see why they should live with or marry anyone, and a lot of men saying they'd do it again if it was the right situation.


Well- I have not yet seen a thread here started by a man that says "I'm not gonna stay in a relationship with a woman, unless marriage is on the horizon at some point. I'm not going to let her just milk the cow..."

Yet all the threads we do see are started by women.



Again, it's got to be where you live or your perception. And I'm sure you don't mean "women" as in all women, since that's simply not the case.


of course I am not speaking in absolutes...but I still believe that more women than men push for marriage.



BS. I've seen otherwise. I've DONE otherwise.


again, there are no absolutes.



Again, I don't think we can say for sure which sex wants consistent sex more - more often it's the person and their views on sex and their personality - gender has nothing to do with sex drive.


I still believe and most everyone I would believe agrees that an average woman can go out any night of the week and get a guy in her "normal league" every night of the week to have sex with- with fairly minimal effort.

For an average man to do the same thing- I do not believe that he can every night of the week get a woman in his "normal league" to sex him.



That's why we never hear of women spiking guys drinks with roofies...or buying guys drinks to get them to have sex with them on a given night.


Women are less 'desparate' as a gender for it, because they know they do not have to be...


Which leads us back to validating the slut versus a stud argument...
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 147
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Posted: 4/14/2010 5:10:24 PM

(Sexiest User) Cappie - I disagree that women always find fault.


Finding fault with his statement...

Jack
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
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Posted: 4/14/2010 7:02:59 PM
Statistics are incorrect 84.2% (rounded) of the time.

The only SOLID stats are regionally and tracked by the court system, so unless a fact cited is from a government site...just ain't right.

Courts are regional and jurisdictional, which can be contested....so any actual facts (for the US) are by county of original jurisdiction unless contested (usually the county where the marriage originated) and can only be tracked by divorce/separation filings.

Breaking up relationships that aren't legally documented, AIN'T no facts on that, bub!

(Not a lawyer, haven't played one on TV...yet!).

I do think as a very broadstroked generalization (and true for myself) that 100% of the time in my life, I'm the one that's ended the relationship. And never for the same reason, exactly, I'm always the one to shoot the first warning shot over the bow (it's a COOL cliche, now) if they're happy then they tend to get complacent and not pay attention.

I can say that in 100% of my relationships that I have broken....uhh...well it's never been a surprise. As a perhaps somewhat sad afterthought...uhh well...then followed by...can we meet for a drink...which is a rehashing of the same stuff. Followed by "can you give me a second chance"...ugh...if you weren't paying attention the first time...then no.They don't really expect it...(I do ASK..) it was just a shot.
 ohwhynot46
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 7:44:17 PM

You generalize way too much.


That sums it up perfectly! As if ALL women or ALL men were the same, as if what one has experienced has more to do with those they have had relationships with than themselves. Truth is, it is much more complicated than that, and not confined to gender.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
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how come women initiate the breakup 80% of the time?
Posted: 4/14/2010 8:37:53 PM
If you Google it the state by state break down of the numbers are there, so the facts I am talking about are from the government.
Dating back to the 1800's.
I am sorry if that bust anyone's bubble but the percentages are correct.

It clearly shows the women are the ones to give up on a relationship the most. Some may have had good reasons. However the facts are the facts.

Someone on here stated that women tend to communicate AT their partner, I have to agree with that.
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