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 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 39
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OP - I agree. Men everywhere should simultaneously stop making moves. Then again it won't make much difference to me anyway, since the ones who approach me are never my type. Where do I sign?

Is there a dating site where all the man are visible and all the women are invisible. All the women would have to do the fishing becuase the men can't see them.

I'd love that. Essentially men won't know you exist unless/until you have interest in them. Sweet.

Personally that would be a perfect scenario for me. I prefer to do the choosing than wait to be chosen = wading through a hundred emails a week from men I'm not interested in is a chore.

Agreed.

If I'm out with a new guy who is pushy I have been know to say "Just sit back and look handsome and I assure you something will happen....keep pushing and I'll just back away". That's the way it goes with some of us.

Exactly. I've actually told a guy or two that he should enjoy and relax and stop trying to sell me - it gets old and I won't buy anything unless I like it without having to be told how great it is (again), which ultimately puts me off it.

Conversely there are some guys who just hate it when you are in the least bit assertive. Sucks to be them.

Yep. But - the ones who hate it aren't for us anyway, so it's a win win.
 looking for ... not sure
Joined: 7/26/2009
Msg: 40
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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:15:18 PM

Women make the first move and we are often called whores... and aside from that, what u are suggesting is nothing but something that can be considered a game.


I've made the first move many times, contacted guys if I liked their profile, sent an email, stuff like that ... so that's why not one has ever contacted me back, they thought I was a pro ... that explains it all now. And the little light bulb goes on over her head ...
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 41
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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:27:31 PM

If guys did stop making the 1st move, they'd have more sexual prospects as women would be forced to contact THEM.


Well OP this has been posted before in different variations. First off you would have to convince a whole lot of men to DO this en masse. What that would mean is there would be a few guys who wouldn't participate who would have all the women to themselves.

Yeah, gee, how stupid would that be?

(weenie walkout.......now that's FUNNY!!!)
 2fuzy
Joined: 3/12/2006
Msg: 42
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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:55:07 PM

Look at men, they're too stupid to realize that they can have more sexual prospects contacting them if men everywhere stopped making the 1st move. Women have beaten us to it. They're the ones with more sexual prospects. Now, chances are when a guy makes his move, she's already dating several men and is reveling in the power she has over this 'new' guy talking to her on the phone. She only has that power because men everywhere have stupidly given it to her. I am a male who actually thinks, and not making the 1st move herself speaks loads of her self image and security. I know who has the real power.


Immediately women and men will chime in with, "You're just an egotistical prick," but it is precisely the EGO speaking when they say that; as well as a desparate attempt to look 'humble and meek' in hopes it'll impress women, i.e. more ego.


or we could spike there special K with testosterone and they would be more sexually aggressive but the facial hair might be a turn off
 swellaswell
Joined: 10/21/2009
Msg: 43
Why women have more sexual prospects..
Posted: 10/31/2009 7:27:34 PM
Brings to mind an old joke.
Jack and Jill were playing in the sandbox,,,,,,,,,Jack pulls down his pants and says to Jill,,,,,,HA,,,you don't have one of THESE.
Jill goes home crying,,,,,,,,next day,,,,,,Jack and Jill are in the sandbox,,,,,,Jack pulls down his pants,,,says,,,,,,Ha,,,you STILL don't have one of these..........Jill patiently continues to fill her pail will sand,,,,,,stands up, when she is ready,,,,,,,,,pulls down HER pants and says,,,,MY MOMMY said,,,as long as I have one of THESE,,,,I can get one of THOSE anytime I want.
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 44
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Posted: 10/31/2009 7:43:28 PM
Prospects and sealing the deal are totally different.

Number of prospects, within itself has no meaning. Having more prospects/potential doesn't speak to the quality or viability of such prospects. Would it be better to have 3 great prospects where there's some potential or 250 "no friggin way in hell".

There are some who enjoy the attention, so for those people, then yes 250 is better than 3. Or those who just want to "knotch" something, then they're after the numbers.

(swell....thanks for the giggle!! )
 curiousaboutu77
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 48
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Posted: 11/1/2009 2:27:17 AM
No one knows whether they have sexual prospects with the person that they have sent a message to because they don't even know if they are interested in them. You cannot read anyones profile and know if they are interested in you. The simple fact is that what is meant for you won't pass you by and you can't force it into your life through number of messages. It will happen when it is going to happen so all you do is try to talk to people that you like the sound of whether you are man or woman and hope for the best. Remember that love is not objective.
 soflnighteagle
Joined: 8/12/2009
Msg: 49
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Posted: 11/1/2009 3:01:26 AM
Ok OP I hear what you're saying, and can almost see your point. Might I suggest that you are looking at things from a slightly skewed angle, the only power women have over us is that which we give them. This is almost the "NICE GUY VS BAD BOY" debate here. If you are obsequious towards a woman she will treat you with disdain, because it is apparent that you think she is too good for you, in other words be a nice guy and get walked on. The other side of that coin is to know that you're the top dog and while you might give a woman the time of day she is going to have to prove that she is good enough for you, this is a challenge and women love a challenge. So yes if you spend all your time chasing after them you are giving them the power, if on the other hand you go out have a good time, be the life of the party and not care what some female is thinking, you will get better results. One comes off desperate, (and nobody likes desperate), the other comes off self assured and confident, (and that attracts everyone). Bottom line is, do not tell women that you’re so good, prove it. Don't get on here and say you’re a man, go out into the real world and be one.
 OutMind
Joined: 2/13/2007
Msg: 50
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:26:28 AM

My former bf has more sex with more women than most men. He's not rich. He's not hot. In fact, he's very ordinary looking. Ordinary body, balding, a dad, almost 40.

His ordinariness helps him score b/c he's not viewed as a threat and quite frankly when he hit on me my thought was "here's this normal guy, being gutsy, and damn is that hot!"


Kaliecat, the beauty of these words is that they came from you, a woman, not one of the smooth talking guys. Hehehe. Also, many of the guys who bring sex up very quickly end up being very alone, to them IS nothing but a numbers game, because at some point one will say, Yes I am in the mood. But they can only approach THAT type of woman, or woman in that state of mind. Yet, the guys who approach, allow the woman to feel comfortable, it is the woman out of her own sense of comfort the one that continues.
 x_file_
Joined: 9/30/2009
Msg: 51
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Posted: 11/1/2009 9:26:25 AM

Look at men, they're too stupid to realize that they can have more sexual prospects contacting them if men everywhere stopped making the 1st move


That is like saying if the fox stops hunting, the chickens will just come to the fox.

In terms of sexual prospects, if men stopped making the first move, the number of their sexual prospects will, at best, remain the same. I'd even argue that men's sexual prospects will actually decrease.

However, if men became more selective of who they ask out, and when asked out who they agree to go out with, that will make a big difference in women's attitude towards men. Certain balance(s) will be restored.

I am for, as one poster put it, a global "weenie walkout", but not because I think it will improve men's sexual prospects, but because men, as a whole, will regain a certain honor and improve the dynamics between men and women.



Women have beaten us to it.


Perhaps they simply take advantage of men's like of sex. I know some women certainly do. However it is even more subtle than that.

I doubt women had a grand convention in which they "figured out" with their "super reasoning abilities" that if they stopped asking men out, men will come to them. I think most women simply react to "what is" - namely men go after women, even after women who clearly don't want men.



Now, chances are when a guy makes his move, she's already dating several men and is reveling in the power she has over this 'new' guy talking to her on the phone.


I have had that phone conversation. She basically exploited my like of her for her own entertainment. It was way back when I first began dating. I recall feeling like a rabbit throw to a wolf, or better yet, a seal in the mercy of a killer whale. And it so just happens that I can show you exactly how that feels (and even the music is appropriate):

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/881976/killer_whale_owning_a_seal/



She only has that power because men everywhere have stupidly given it to her.


We call that power "pu$$y power", though I think a more appropriate phrase is "d*ck power" in that it is the little head over powering the big head.



I know who has the real power.


I guess you think it is men? Men certainly have the power to enslave and control women... it was so in the "cave days", but the exercise of this type of power makes for poor relationships.

Women have power over men, but so do men over women. It's just that men are too willing to give their power away for sex of all things.



Immediately women and men will chime in with, "You're just an egotistical prick," but it is precisely the EGO speaking when they say that; as well as a desparate attempt to look 'humble and meek' in hopes it'll impress women, i.e. more ego.


You have an explanation for the current dynamics in the dating game. Shall we not disagree when there is a good reason to?

Just curious, how do you know when the ego is not speaking?
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 52
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Posted: 11/1/2009 12:27:23 PM
That is like saying if the fox stops hunting, the chickens will just come to the fox.
I wouldn't either if I was going to be killed and ripped up for a buffet. I don't think dating for women is comparable to that type of scenario (unless of course the guy/date was so awful you wished death on yourself to escape it).

Just saying - comparing dating to fish catching or deer shooting or chickens and foxes sounds too much like predator/prey - and dating isn't supposed to be that type of dynamic.
 Arabianangel
Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 53
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Posted: 11/1/2009 3:04:58 PM

She only has that power because men everywhere have stupidly given it to her. I am a male who actually thinks, and not making the 1st move herself speaks loads of her self image and security. I know who has the real power.


The very fact that you appear to be 'competing' for power tells me you lack it in every single way...Power/influence is only ever measured for self worth by those that lack it.
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 55
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Posted: 11/1/2009 3:53:31 PM
Look at men, ... they can have more sexual prospects ... if [they]stopped making the 1st move.
OMG! Dude, why do you think there is such a hot porn/hooker/sex industry? It's because men are more easily stimulated by external stimuli. THAT is why they are the "consumers" (by and large) and women are the vendors. In other words .... we got it ... you want it!
 ItsMargo
Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 56
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Posted: 11/1/2009 4:08:59 PM
So, what is the role of testosterone?
 Blueeyesandgoofy
Joined: 8/17/2009
Msg: 58
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:31:45 PM
I agree with BoredGuy18. Since time began, the men have been the "askers" and the women have been the "wait to be askeders." The sexual revolution supposedly changed all that but then why to all the women's mags I read still tell us to wait for the man to ask us out? They state that if a man doesn't feel like he is in control he will lose interest. (I've tried it both ways and I get the same results.) I have no idea what that guy is talking about though: I don't view a man as simply a sexual prospect and I don't have 10 men emailing me everyday. Even when I email them first!
 ohwhynot46
Joined: 6/28/2009
Msg: 60
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:34:16 PM
Just curious, OP, what is your point in posting this?
 OSUguy99
Joined: 4/8/2009
Msg: 61
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:40:20 PM
one reason women have more prospects is because men sleep with women theyre not attracted enough to to date, women dont. so essentially women get to play in their own league, and also fish out of their league.
 ohwhynot46
Joined: 6/28/2009
Msg: 62
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:45:36 PM
[men do not use sex as a means for leveraging a commitment.]

True! Men use hints at commitment to get laid!

Truth is, things have changed, in many ways. Truth also is, they haven't changed as much as we tell ourselves they have.

This could turn into a lengthy discussion/dissection of societal norms, feminism, etc., but the thread title was aimed at sexual prospects. Women have more sexual prospects for the simple reason that more men seek only sex. Most women, even when that is what they are seeking, are inclined to be a more discreet/less upfront, and still more discriminating about it. It really is that simple.
 FluffyBrain
Joined: 3/11/2007
Msg: 63
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:50:24 PM
hmmm...not so sure about that, op. seems men readily (& throughout the eons) manage to spread their seed to multiple women & the reverse is less true.

also, op, she'll drop all those other men when she finds the "one." guys do the same thing. when you fall in love, the blinders are on (i.e. you lose interest in all but the "one.") basically, all the wheel-spinning isn't going to change things...so...so what if she's eating up the attention while looking for the "one"...as long as she's not hurting other people, that is. same for guys.

btw, i didn't think beth's comment was at all sexist, feminist (hopefully, not a dirty word, btw), or anything negative. in point of fact, i saw it as a rather positive, supportive comment.
 Bluesman2008
Joined: 4/2/2008
Msg: 64
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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:53:11 PM

it is a bit of an interesting question to me.


Hmm. The old switcharoo. Probably a little too radical a departure from the hunter/gatherer cards we've been dealt and almost everyone accepts as the norm.
 GrandmaBooBoo
Joined: 12/30/2006
Msg: 67
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Posted: 11/2/2009 7:47:51 AM
BRAVO!!!! I'd say it's about time you guys woke up!!! I was beginning to think you were all in a coma!!!


Divorce is only a happy day for women, because they get everything. And for this reason, men should not marry, and under no circumstances should they give a woman children.

There is no risk for a woman to marry. If it doesn't work out, she still gets the house, at least half the assets, the kids, and at least half of hubby's future disposable income for the next 20 years. If a man marries and it doesn't work out, he loses it all. So while the feminists keep pounding the same rhetoric of "empowered" females choosing not to marry, what makes considerably more sense is that - given the huge risk of losing it all - men are simply choosing not to enter a one-sided contract that makes no sense. You can find "marriage strike" all over the blogosphere.

Yes, there are 53% of marriage aged males who are only vaguely interested in marriage, but not until at least 32.5, but another 30% (plus another 12% who will not marry American women at all) who are now HARD CORE MARRIAGE AVOIDERS given the raping they get in divorce court. Who can blame them?

The truth is that more than 67% of marriages will end in divorce. 92% of the time it will be initiated by the woman for no other reason than she is “unfulfilled” – oh, and because she gets the kids, the house, at least ½ the assets and most of his future after tax income for the next 18 years. The man will get raked over in family court. He will lose the house. He will see his kids 2 out of 14 days (if the ex doesn't level unsubstantiated "abuse" claims.) He will be forced to hand over 40-50% of his take-home pay. If he loses his job due to illness or downsizing, the State will toss him in jail. While jailed the arrearage will grow and the state will charge interest. The State will revoke his driver's and professional licenses, make him virtually unemployable.

If you were to take up sky-diving, and the instructor informed you that 67% of the parachutes were defective, would you take the plunge?

The men’s Marriage Strike is alive and well, thank you. nomarriage.com


Just google "marriage strike"; there are any number of really good articles out there on this very subject. It's high time you guys started demanding some good behavior and appreciation for your efforts!
 Sabrosura
Joined: 1/7/2009
Msg: 68
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Posted: 11/2/2009 7:50:23 AM

Wasn't suggesting anything.
Just letting scores of women know that not all men are stupid.


Oh so this is a rant thread.............
 GrandmaBooBoo
Joined: 12/30/2006
Msg: 70
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Posted: 11/2/2009 9:46:03 AM
^^^^^ LOL! I'd take a big bite of that sweetie....but you're about 15 yrs too young!!! LOL!
 spunkybum52
Joined: 9/8/2009
Msg: 71
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Posted: 11/10/2009 6:57:49 PM
It's just a fact that women have more sexual prospects than men, and that's probably because we have what men want, and we can be in control. On this dating site and others, the majority of men tell me that they have very few offers. On the other side, women tell me they get flooded with offers. I guess it could be a power thing, but I never really think of it that way at all. I think it's just the natural fact that women will get more prospects than men. It is something you will have to live with, so best to get over it.
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