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 My I
Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 318
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Its a myth that older men cant get hard

If you notice it's the pharmacuetical companies and the women who chase younger men who perpetuate the issue and make it appear as though it's a bigger problem than it really is...... go figure.

I'm still waiting for the first person to officially report that his penis remained erect for more than four hours - great marketing scheme, isn't it? Especially given the fact that "so many men" have erectile problems - you'd think at least one case would be reported by now.

As far as women seeking younger men in order to avoid all of these "softies" that's simple to deal with - they want the shaft - and they get it in more ways than one. God bless them, but keep the emotional letdowns to yourself.
 nativerock
Joined: 10/16/2010
Msg: 319
ED over 45
Posted: 12/18/2010 3:32:05 PM

OK...I will fess up here. I have diabetes 2 and have been taking the blue pill for 10 years. It got to a point where it wasn't working ( I was dating many women, not in a relationship). I got into a relationship with a great woman who told me not to worry about it and she researched some natural remedies. I have lost some weight, take Viper and Maca daily and have not needed a pill in quite a while. Do I hit a home run every time, nope, but if you are with a good woman and she does not put the pressure on, but works with you it makes all of the difference.


The thing is you can beat diabetes.. Please check out Dr Cousins book on beating Diabetes.. He has cured many of it and in a very short time.. There are natural remedies and these involve proper eating.. the Maca is useful addition to both males and females as far as hormones go..

You right if a woman really cares about you she does not put the pressure on she is just happy to be in your presence.. Please check out have safe Levitra is have not looked into it..

Good Luck
nativerock
 *mae* flowers
Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 322
ED over 45
Posted: 12/23/2010 9:34:22 PM
I'm still waiting for the first person to officially report that his penis remained erect for more than four hours



Me too. I wanna get his name and number



...mae
 URXO2
Joined: 8/27/2009
Msg: 323
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ED over 45
Posted: 1/2/2011 1:17:04 PM
I'd say Hugh Hefner's recent engagement at the age of 84 is a testimonial for Viagra's effectiveness..
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 324
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Posted: 1/2/2011 1:38:28 PM

not all women lose desire after menopause, many have a high sex drive after.


$64,000 question: how does a man find her without coming across as only interested in sex?
 Fifi47
Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 325
ED over 45
Posted: 1/2/2011 1:52:42 PM
He can talk to her about things besides sex, have a relationship that is not only sex. I don't know any women over 50 who don't love sex. Most of my friends and I say if we were to find ourselves in good relationships, we sure doubt the men would ever complain about us not wanting and liking sex.
 rearguard*2
Joined: 2/8/2008
Msg: 326
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Posted: 1/3/2011 5:56:25 AM
The more secure and deep the relationship, the less sexual activity within the relationship. Odd, but quite widely reported. Its also been my own general experience. Long term stable couples tend to experience a resurgence of sexual activity when some threat to the relationship appear, such as sickness, a wandering eye or the appearance of some competition on the horizon. All this is quite inconsistent with the claims of sexual nirvana proffered by the unattached if only a "relationship" could be found.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 328
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 2:29:41 PM
"Most of my friends and I say if we were to find ourselves in good relationships, we sure doubt the men would ever complain about us not wanting and liking sex". I call b.s. on that statement. Why don't you ask a few men instead of your girlfriends. A good/great relationship should include intimacy, unless BOTH don't want it. When one person wants sex and the other is "not wanting and liking sex" the relationship will have problems.

As for menopause, it is not a killer of your sex drive. Quite often it is the opposite.

I would like to commend the men on this thread for being so up front about this issue. ED effects not only the man but the couple.
 Fifi47
Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 329
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 2:52:21 PM
Why would I ask men about women liking sex? Unless the men have been involved with a sexual relationship with my friends, they would not know how my friends perceive sex in a relationship they were involved in. Most of my friends rarely date, so one reason they would enjoy sex so much is that they miss it, possibly?
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 330
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 5:08:07 PM
I don't think I misunderstood the sentence I quoted. I took it to mean that if you (or your friends) were in a good relationship that the men would not complain about you not wanting or liking sex. Seems pretty clear to me. Just reverse it - your man wouldn't mind if you didn't want or like sex. This is how I'm reading that statement.

So my response was - you better ask your man whether he would complain about you not wanting or liking sex. He might have a different opinion.
 Fifi47
Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 331
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 5:12:03 PM
Where did I state that I or my friends would not want or like sex? My point was that it seems that so many men complain about women not liking sex, that I do not understand it, as my friends and myself all like sex.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 332
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 5:23:57 PM
You know, you are correct. I misunderstood your last sentence in post 602. I read the first sentence and the last sentence, skipped the middle. Please accept my apology - I screwed up. Sorry Fifi.
 Fifi47
Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 333
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 5:29:05 PM
No problem.....
 *mae* flowers
Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 334
ED over 45
Posted: 1/3/2011 6:23:15 PM

As for menopause, it is not a killer of your sex drive. Quite often it is the opposite.


...I' d like to test out that theory... just to be sure *wink*


I would like to commend the men on this thread for being so up front about this issue. ED effects not only the man but the couple.


..Absolutely. Someone close to me is trying to work out some problems in that area as well...but I have to say that they seem a lot happier lately. Hmmm.

...mae
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 335
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Posted: 1/8/2011 9:28:43 AM
As for menopause, it is not a killer of your sex drive. Quite often it is the opposite.


I believe I addressed this point in a different topic. My ex-wife is a nurse and I use to read the magazines she subscribed to: NURSE and RN. Occassionally there were articles that touched on this subject. The figures that they quoted were 1/3 of women loose or their labido while 2/3 of women do not. The problem is how does one find the 2/3. I know this sounds insensitive but no sex or bad sex does effect a relationship and waiting until one is well into a long term relationship to find out can be a real dsappointment. Especially if one has come out of a marriage that had this problem. So, is there some diplomatic way to discover a woman's labido early on without offending her?

When young couples first marry they have sex every chance they can get. Can't keep their hands off of each other. Typically, after 6 to 12 months, the wife wants to slow things down a little. "I just don't need sex as often as you do", is the comment men often hear so things slow down a bit. This was my experience and that of my friends. When women do not have a ltr partner their desire accumulates. Some of the comments from you ladies seems to bare this out. Once you get into a long term relationship and sex is available whenever the couple want will "Labido River" eb and flow. I.E. have times of slowing down? All of the ladies talk as though their river is connected to a limitless supply of desire. Is it really limitless or can it periodically go down after extended use (having sex). By the way, this is a serious question and not trying to attack or put down the wonderful ladies present.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 336
ED over 45
Posted: 1/8/2011 11:34:10 AM
Dave, I think both men and women want an answer to the libido question in our age bracket. A man may well want to know how much a woman enjoys/wants sex and a woman wants to know how much a man enjoys/wants sex. It is a tricky thing to bring up during the early stages of dating - just how do you say "so, how often do you want to have sex and are you functioning fully?".

In our age bracket there are folks that don't want to have sex or have problems being sexual - they may want to but have issues, and I'm talking about men AND women. And it doesn't always have to do with ED or low sex drive - one person may want to have sex once a week and their partner wants it 3 times a week - that will become a problem for that couple.

So, I don't have an answer to the "how often do you want to have sex" question. I, for one, am not comfortable sitting across a dining room table and saying "so, I like sex 4 times a week - how about you?". I think a better way would be to say "I think a healthy sex life is important in a relationship, what are your thoughts?"

A major problem for me would be someone who has issues, either ED or low libido (man or women), is how willing are they to seek help either through medication or some other way. If they are unwilling to seek help- I'm unwilling to persue a relationship. If someone is willing to seek help, I am going to hang in there and give them my full support.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 338
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Posted: 1/8/2011 4:56:48 PM
My point is simple, find a person you feel passion for and then treat them well both inside and outside of bed and you will be surprised at how passionate a woman could become. I know with my second husband we shared some awesome experiences based on mutual passion; and i never doubted for a moment how much he loved me.


We're back at the origina point. Get into the relationship, treat her nice and "HOPE" she has the desire. Not all women have it no matter how good one treats them. To me the formula: LTR + treat her nice (always)= hot sex, doesn't come with an over all guarantee of a woman's labido. Some women don't possess the desire and at this age many men don't want to take the gamble and from the sound of it some women feel the same way.

When our generation was younger many of us had sex with our marital partner for the first time during the honeymoon. By then it was to late to back out if either party had no labido. I guess it's the gamble we take when fall in in love.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 339
ED over 45
Posted: 1/8/2011 6:10:20 PM
Dave, I agree with you "LTR + treat her/him nice = hot sex" is not a guarantee. Nope, not all the time. I've known folks that have great relationships - except in bed. Either he can't or doesn't want to or she doesn't want to. Desire and ability effects both genders. And I don't want to gamble in this area when I fall in love. The only way around this is to bed them early on and see what happens. And talk about it. I guess if you're close enough to someone to want to share a home, blend incomes, start a life together, you should also be comfortable enough to bring up the sex questions. Funny how someone will rather have a root canal than answer a question regarding sex, libido and "how many times a week makes you happy". Aren't we just precious.....
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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Posted: 1/8/2011 7:32:24 PM
Real dumb question: I've never had a male friend who ever indicated he didn't have a strong labido. Do women really run into men who just have no interest in sex? Seriously, it's hard to believe but you ladies would know better then us guys.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 342
ED over 45
Posted: 1/8/2011 8:08:27 PM
The word is libido.

Men don't talk about their loss of libido or ED problems. I work with a prostate cancer charity and it's hard to even bring that up with men and it doesn't matter whether it's a woman talking to a man about it or a man talking to a man. Men are private, I respect that, but health concerns should be more open and so should something that will affect your relationship. Get your prostate checked Dave and all you other guys out there !!!!

But if it makes you feel better, I haven't had too many chats with my gal friends about libido - theirs or mine. We are very open talking about breast cancer or cervical cancer but not so much on "so, how much you gettin". I have chatted with a few women about libido and menopause. The consensus is - some have a lowered libodo, most don't, some are higher than before.

I think that whether a couple want sex once a month or 3 times a week it is only an issue when one of them is not on the same wave length as their partner. Plus the issues with ED, loss of libido, painful sex, dryness, etc. And luckily, many have no issues in this area at all.
 satx78218
Joined: 10/30/2007
Msg: 343
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Posted: 1/8/2011 9:57:27 PM
"Get your prostate checked Dave and all you other guys out there"

prostate health has nothing to do with sex drive or ED.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 344
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Posted: 1/9/2011 8:11:06 AM
^^^^^I didn't say that prostate health had anything to do with sex drive or ED. My reason for that statement was in regard to men NOT discussing anything to do with their health, whether it's sexual health or anything else that has to do with their body. If you noticed in my post I said I am involved in a prostate charity.

On a personal note, I have a friend going through prostate cancer treatment right now. At first they put him on a drug to suppress his testosterone which gave him menopause type symtoms and no libido. Now the cancer has gone to both femurs, hips and spine. He is now getting radiation to be followed by chemo. If the treatment works and all the stars are in the right alignment - they gave him two years at best. My buddy is 55 years old. He ignored his prostate until it was too late.

So, Dave and Satx and all you other guys out there that don't want to talk about your body, your sexual health or any other "personal" issue - get your prostate checked, look after yourself.

I buried a husband and a 33 year old son - both would be alive if they'd have taken care of themselves. No amount of nagging on the "I love you and want you to be here a long time" level seemed to work for me - now my words are more to the point and harsher.
 My I
Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 345
ED over 45
Posted: 1/9/2011 9:02:29 AM

My reason for that statement was in regard to men NOT discussing anything to do with their health, whether it's sexual health or anything else that has to do with their body. If you noticed in my post I said I am involved in a prostate charity

I think there is a distinctive difference between openly discussing our health concerns as opposed to actually addressing them. Publicly, you'll notice which specific cancer stricken demographic seems to monopolize fundraising, attention and care on treatments... even professional sports has been directed to focus on women's health as opposed to addressing cancer in both genders.

From that perspective, men do sometimes get the feeling that our health is not respectfully treated as a concern so we do things privately. I've done my health checks for the year... without fanfare.

Us men are being trained to keep silent while others focus on their needs and their desire to get most of the funding and attention.... some of the posts in this thread displays a total disrespect from women towards men, hence our silence.

Message #7 is a prime example:

I saw on the Today show last week, that at least 30% of men in their 50's have this problem. The 40 age group is around 25%. Suprisingly enough for the men in their 70's it went down to 20%. I don't get that.
Anyway, the thing for us women then would be to date younger men, and not men our age.

I guess if she was stricken with breast cancer, she wouldn't be such an ignorant ass... but then again, who knows?
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 346
ED over 45
Posted: 1/9/2011 9:45:03 AM
"...some of the posts in this thread displays a total disrespect from women towards men, hence our silence" - this is evident in most of the threads in the forums, not just this one. There are a lot of bitter folks on here. I can't help it if some folks seem to bash the opposite sex - they obviously have issues and I don't care what they are nor will I participate in the chatter. When someone is being disrespectful of the opposite sex the only thing they do is make themselves look like an idiot.

I like men, I cherish my father, I have a son and grandsons. Many of my friends are men and I'm looking for a partner to spend the rest of my life with. I had a wonderful 30 marriage to a wonderful man. I will not stop telling the men in my life to "look after yourself".

And you are correct about the fundraising/awareness for certain cancers/illnesses. Breast cancer is by far the leader in this area for example. Breast are sexy, emotional - everyone seems to want to get on the bandwagon. I will say that the number of fundraisers for prostate cancer has increased over the last few years, at least in my area. A few years ago there were none, last year alone in my city there was a motorcycle ride, three runs/walks, Movember (grow a moustache and raise money), a Wine gala, and a few others. Prostate cancer is now out in the open and fully supported and talked about. This is wonderful.

As for the ignorant asses out there - there will always be those around here, you get rid of one and three replace them it seems......
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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Posted: 1/9/2011 6:20:36 PM

Get your prostate checked Dave and all you other guys out there !!!!


I understand the comment from a preventative standpoint. In fact, being on testosterone replacement my primary care physician does the exam and PSA blood tests once a year. (Hate the exam)
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