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 TryAgan
Joined: 4/4/2008
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moraima- msg 44

"Where do you sign up for a relationship with sex?"

I haven't for several years, because I can't see anyone without issues that I am attracted to. I would rather do without the relationship with sex, than have a bad relationship with sex like so many others seem to rush to sign up for.

And then, there are good relationships without sex and I'm told, even some great relationship involving sex.

By the way, I just found out that we can submit the said applications at Tim Hortons.
In case, the sex part doesn't pan out, they will placate you with timbits.
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 27
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Posted: 11/23/2009 9:07:06 PM
Thanks! I did "READ" the question of "ED over 45". Did I misunderstand something?

Ya. What you "quoted" ~~
 moraima
Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 11/23/2009 9:20:28 PM
"there are good relationships without sex "

Yes, those are called friends. I already have enough friends, thank you.

I won't be going to Tim Hortons for timbits or anything else, any more than if someone told me that they couldn't/wouldn't have sex as part of a relationship ............ I wouldn't be going into that type of relationship, thank you.
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 29
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Posted: 11/23/2009 9:25:30 PM
It was a *joke* happygal. Pete was saying he has so much to give, that he needed something that worked the *opposite* of Viagra: i.e., cut back on the need/desire to have sex.
 TryAgan
Joined: 4/4/2008
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Posted: 11/23/2009 9:33:00 PM
ahappygal - msg 48

Before quoting pete's question, I googled to find the following:

Viagara
With this natural male enhancer, the only result you will get from this is a rock hard erection in 20 or less minutes.

Stronger, Longer-Lasting Erections
• Natural Sexual Energy
• Enhanced Sexual Desire
• Spontaneous Intimacy
• Overall Sexual Performance

And you needed to google it? Do you feel fulfilled now?
 Miss W
Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 31
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Posted: 11/23/2009 9:43:43 PM
Wow I would hate to think what your opinion of people who have had cancer and its causes!

Wow, I did not mean to be vindictive at all, for cancer is an unfortunate thing to not be wished upon anyone, even one's worst enemy. I'm just saying that SOME people who have prided themselves as being "studs" and "c 0 cks of the walk" have a little bit of "come uppance " and should reflect inwardly in learning how to be a better partner if they can no longer "get it up". I'm just suggesting that a little learning and sensitivity are in order.

 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 32
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Posted: 11/24/2009 1:33:58 AM

The prevalence rate may be overstated. As has been stated here and elsewhere, healthy, fit (flat stomach, for example) men w/o diabetes and other health issues generally do not have this problem.

Whew!! lol
 afashionlady
Joined: 4/19/2008
Msg: 33
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Posted: 11/24/2009 2:03:27 AM
Hmmm

I wonder why so many threads about ED too. And honestly...I must be one lucky chick. My last serious relationship was with a 63 yr old man who had NOTHING wrong in that department. No TMI but that aspect of our relationship was marvelous and fulfulling for both of us. The men over 45 that I've dated haven't had any issues...beyond first timers and that's pretty much most men.

I guess I don't talk about ED with a man...I'm not even sure how to even bring that up!

OP, perhaps there's other issues causing their ED. Also too, some guys won't cop to it, but they have performance anxiety for the first time and if they don't get another chance, then that only adds to their own personal misery.

When you ask these guys what's going on...what do they say? I'd be interested to know how they deal with this question from you.
 TryAgan
Joined: 4/4/2008
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Posted: 11/24/2009 2:35:31 AM
ismene2 - msg 54

The prevalence rate may be overstated. As has been stated here and elsewhere, healthy, fit (flat stomach, for example) men w/o diabetes and other health issues generally do not have this problem.

Not to forget factoring in the flatness of the partner's stomach. That could raise the subject in question a few degrees higher.
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
Msg: 35
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Posted: 11/24/2009 3:16:43 AM

Anyway, the thing for us women then would be to date younger men, and not men our age.
This makes it (in my eyes) for the 50 and up men, to get a grip and stop chasing the 35 yr old women.


Sassy got to agree with you here.. You figures seem far more accurate.. I have to wonder what the 35 year old women are doing with them.

Here is what I do not understand.. If a man has ED and no pill works ,or he cannot take any pill due to other medications or problems why does he not just list "friends"

Plus they are just frustrating themselves and often blame their partner because lots and lots of men are in total denial about it.

The more I thought about this issue the more I would not want to really have to deal with it other than to be platonic friends, which I would be perfectly fine with.

thecatsmeoww
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 11/24/2009 3:22:11 AM

The prevalence rate may be overstated. As has been stated here and elsewhere, healthy, fit (flat stomach, for example) men w/o diabetes and other health issues generally do not have this problem.


True look for a man with a nice flat tummy.. However some may have prostate problems that could cause ED as well.. Normally men with diabetes are overweight but not always so you might well want to address health issues very early on..

thecatsmeoww
 louise1359
Joined: 6/15/2009
Msg: 37
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Posted: 11/24/2009 5:06:46 AM
someone already pointed out that the prevalence in men over 70 drops b/c the lifestyle issues that cause ED in some men are the same ones that result in these men dying earlier. Alcohol abuse, weight, smoking--all contribute to ED (and the "spongy" affect someone else mentioned). Most of the damage from these lifestyle habits is not reversible. It's damage to the ol' cardiovascular system. So taking care of one's body is important for yet another reason, although by the time someone gets to the over 45 forum, it might be almost too late.

I've heard from a number of medical professionals (female friends over 45) whose personal experience has confirmed what the medical reports indicate. Guys who are having no problem have had a healthier lifestyle for the most part and continue to take care of themselves.
 blueyesrsmiling
Joined: 6/25/2008
Msg: 38
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Posted: 11/24/2009 5:26:12 AM
I know a few men that have had problems with this but they had medical problems.
Again if they are just now experiencing these problems they need to have a medical check up. I had a close friend that had problems and had a massive heart attack a couple of weeks ago.
It makes me cringe whenever this issue is brought up. It usually turns into gender bashing. Instead of this being a discussion about this very personal and private problem that men experience it becomes gender bashing. Not only does this affect self esteem it also means these gentlemen have health issues. Women also have problem with sex and again it becomes gender bashing us against them issue. These issues are on such a personal level that we aren't going to hear from men or women about how they feel and what they have done to help theirselves. Because showing our true selves in these forums can bring on a attack. Which has nothing to do with character it has to do with gender.........Ouch
 rearguard*2
Joined: 2/8/2008
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Posted: 11/24/2009 5:32:34 AM
Why not just forget about real life sex and stick to cyber-sex. Virtual reality is always a lot less messy anyways. Only problem is that it gets harder to type at some point!
 ankkka
Joined: 8/29/2007
Msg: 40
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Posted: 11/24/2009 5:50:34 AM
"Wives are young men's mistresses,companions for middle age,and old men's nurses."by F.Bacon

Well...when is no other choice...I could be a nurse...
 rearguard*2
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Posted: 11/24/2009 6:16:37 AM
All I can conclude from this thread is that I should be spending more time in bed with a woman while I still can perform. If I believe the comments here, its only a matter of time before I run out of lead in my pencil, and the last chapter of my tale of physical prowess is complete!

Terrifying, really.....
 ankkka
Joined: 8/29/2007
Msg: 42
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Posted: 11/24/2009 6:42:59 AM
It is no end of life... not yet...I think!

You can always sing..."Somewhere over the rainbow...bluebirds fly...Birds fly over the rainbow...why then ...oh why can't I?"
 Revilors
Joined: 10/9/2008
Msg: 43
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Posted: 11/24/2009 7:33:01 AM

And honestly...I must be one lucky chick. My last serious relationship was with a 63 yr old man who had NOTHING wrong in that department.


Maybe you don't hover over his penis...staring at your watch with your foot tapping...with a disgusted look on your face.

Seriously, if YOU are experiencing this with a frequency consistent with your given statistics...perhaps you need to look at the extrinsic factors.

I'll have to say...that when I was a teenager...it was difficult to convince it to become flaccid if there was a female within a hundred yards. Mature men need to have their heart in it...as well as their head. Sometimes
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 44
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Posted: 11/24/2009 7:39:51 AM
The first three men I dealt with who had the issue, I was in my thirties ~~ They were fit, trim, flatbellied, under sixty. No diabetes, no prostate issues, no little blue pill. And I was young enough that I took it very personally. In my fifties and sixties, two have had diabetes, one prostate issues, one had had a vascular accident in his thirties. Little blue pill only worked for the last. With a 12 hour lag time.

I'm seeing a lot of blame the victim here. I'd like to posit a larger picture (and a googling project for you all). We already know that sperm counts have been dropping for fifty years. We know that water pollution has been feminizing frogs and fishes. We know that at least two different kinds of plastics, both overwhelmingly in our everyday environment, feminize our own baby boys. When I was a child, milk came in glass bottles, then in waxed paper cartons, now in plastic lined paper/or plastic bottles; soda comes in plastic; cans are lined in plastic; baby formula in plastic lined cans into plastic baby bottles; plastics in our nail polish, shampoo, drinking water; storage is plastic. Plastic off-gasses in our refrigerators and microwaves. These plastics act as pseudo-estrogens, women who are over-estrogenized give birth to feminized sons. Who are then fed these same pseudo-estrogens for the rest of their growing up years. Do we honestly believe *none* of this has any effect on us, the grownups? What about our grandchildren? The world's grandchildren? The human race?

I believe, personally, that if we don't get a handle on this soon, there will be no men, of any age, ever, who don't have issues. It's like standing in a tunnel watching the headlight of an oncoming train, honestly. If we don't do something, and that quickly, we're in a chitload of trubble, forever. Start studying on it, start trying to get plastics and other pseudo-estrogens out of your life. Stop allowing meat producers to inject the stuff into your food. The growers using pesticides are doing the same thing. Whatcha gonna eat?

But at least stop blaming the men!! Rant off.


 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
Msg: 45
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Posted: 11/24/2009 7:41:24 AM

All I can conclude from this thread is that I should be spending more time in bed with a woman while I still can perform. If I believe the comments here, its only a matter of time before I run out of lead in my pencil, and the last chapter of my tale of physical prowess is complete!
Terrifying, really.....


I think that is one of the reasons men are in such a hurry today. On the other hand much to be said about the true value of having good friendships in your life.

By the way there are men in their 70's and 80's not suffering from it.. So don't count yourself out.

thecatsmeoww
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 46
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Posted: 11/24/2009 7:57:33 AM
Ismene ~~ thank you!!

 moraima
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Posted: 11/24/2009 8:54:53 AM
''I'm seeing a lot of blame the victim here. "

True, but asking women to become co victims isn't the solution.

I don't ask other to take on my problems. I work through any problems I have myself, and don't expect to have others do the fixing.

Like I have said repeatedly if we are already in a relationship and it becomes a problem, it is also our problem. However, agreeing to start a relationship with someone who has a history of Ed isn't for me.
 TryAgan
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Posted: 11/24/2009 9:33:59 AM
ismene2 - msg 74
I don't want to quote/repeat the entire article, but after reading about all the awful-sounding therapies, one would immediately lose any erection.
 rearguard*2
Joined: 2/8/2008
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Posted: 11/24/2009 9:39:27 AM
Well, after reading Ismene's post, the idea of swearing off the ladies appears to be a lot less abhorrent than do some of the ED related therapies. Perhaps its true that all good things come to an end after all.....
 Brownlady1953
Joined: 12/12/2008
Msg: 50
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Posted: 11/24/2009 1:57:25 PM
Moraima, I was going to quote you but I got lazy, but I agree with your posting 100%. (As usual).
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