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 Gogetter1956
Joined: 1/9/2010
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You know what Ace? There have been a lot of things done in the name of Christianity that have no sound basis found in the Bible. I personally have a lot more trouble with the churches I've been invloved with that I now consider to be on the lunatic fringe, infested with feminist theology and the same entitlement mentality that has invaded our society, than I do with the fundie churches. Why is that? The clanging cymbal.

On both sides of the isle, the #1 killer of marriage is self centeredness. Entitlement IS self centeredness.
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 1/22/2010 4:44:13 PM
Well Paul, certainly from what I've heard, if you ask men what their #1 desire is, the majority will say "enthusiastic sex". If you ask women what thier #1 desire is, the majority will say something along the lines of "emotional security".

Anyone that demands what they desire without giving to the other what they desire is self centered.

A fundie church is one that holds fairly traditional views based on more of a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Generally, my views lean that direction but with the recognition that the context and other passages will give clues as to how literal it should be taken. It's important to understand who is being spoken to and there is a lot of disagreement as to whether it all applies to us today or if it only applies to the person it was spoken to. That requires some study and I tend to lean in the direction of it applies mostly to who it was spoken to and it's reckless to claim it all applies to everyone. I consider myself to be a Spirit Filled Fundie that has a fairly good clue about some things but I also know there is yet much to learn.
 AceOfSpace
Joined: 5/28/2007
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Posted: 1/22/2010 10:04:44 PM
Well, fundamentalists. Whether their crazy interpretation is actually anything like an accurate reflection of Christ's message is very much subject to question.
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 1/23/2010 12:17:49 AM
So what do you think is wrong with taking the Written Word of God as it is, in context and considering who it was originally written to or about along with cultural and historical considerations in mind compared to those who just pull out any verse and try to apply it at will?

Which is the most rational and reasonable way to approach it once you decide the external evidence is sufficient to accept it as reliable?
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 1/23/2010 1:03:08 AM
Too many committees with too many biases, and any interpretation that promises an easy out via the rapture just has to be nonsense. Just sayin'

Much better for those who don't understand a passage just to admit it. That's an honest literal intepretation. "This is what it says. I have no idea what it means. Here's what I think it could mean, but there's just no way to be sure." That would be honest. But to make up all those crazy stories about the rapture and the tribulation and the end times, and then claim that those stories are literal interpretations is, in a word, insane.
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 1/23/2010 8:38:10 AM
Well I have to agree there are many things that are held onto like they are cut and dried when they are not. Revelations is not written in a literal presentation, so it is not proper reasoning to try to interpret it literally. A person needs a real good working knowledge of the Bible and prophecy as well as apocalyptic literature from that time period to really understand it.

All I'm saying though is it's a lot better to use good judgment than poor judgment to base your faith on. The fundie church I am involved with now at least has love and is willing to agree to disagree with me on areas where we differ whereas the churches that have based their theology on cut and paste rationalizations such as feminist theology have a serious clanging cymbal problem.
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 1/23/2010 1:56:20 PM
No doubt. Love is the key. Glad you found an organized spiritual community that loves you as you are. I still yearn for that, but must admit I stopped looking quite a while ago. There are many things about conventional Christian dogma that chap my hide. Even though feminism isn't one of them, I can still relate to the feeling.

Yeah, that clanging cymbal thing. Sometimes I think that I've got a case of it myself. On a day like this I'm not sure I'd know what agape'd be like if it bit me on the ass.
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 1/23/2010 7:23:04 PM
Well Ace, sometimes you just have to forget about the feelings for a while and just do the actions a la 1 Cor 13. It's not always easy and I am by no means perfect, but I hold that standard as my goal and try to evaluate how well I acheived it or not daily.

Finding a church isn't necessarily the answer for everybody, but it's not too difficult to hear the clanging cymbal. I hope I've learned enough now to distance myself from that sooner than later from now on.
 5150Rivergirl
Joined: 8/3/2008
Msg: 101
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Posted: 11/19/2012 3:51:17 PM
Reading too much 50 Shades..
 SpanksBottom
Joined: 7/11/2016
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Posted: 7/17/2016 11:50:57 AM
You and I should be talking....E
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