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 wings on my butt
Joined: 2/9/2009
Msg: 25
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That kind of attitude has always driven me bonkers.



If you are gonna let a little thing like someone Else's opinion drive you bonkers then you are going to have a rough road in life. I am entitled to not have any interest in the Olympics and I am also entitled to think it's a waste of money. My opinions will not change anything either way. The Olympics will still go on and host cities will still waste money like mad so really what does it matter?

Honestly don't let little things like a different opinion drive you insane because when the big important things happen that actually matter you are gonna end up on the water tower with a gun picking off people.




Then don't watch. No one is forcing you to watch or attend.



Thanks for the advice but I don't. Why would I watch or attend something that I find boring? Honestly people really have to learn that not everyone has the same views and opinions without flipping out over the differences.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 26
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Posted: 2/18/2010 3:10:38 PM
I think the IOC is the most corrupt organization in the world; I think the emphasis on winning at the Olympics has lead to athletes dying young; I think the cheating and vote trading at the judged events combined with the doping sends the message that "Cheaters win and winners cheat."

I don't support the Olympics. I think it stopped being a positive influence in '72.

But I have to help pay for it. I'm glad everyone is enjoying my city for 2 weeks, but that's small comfort for the nasty budget and series of budgets we're facing for a decade to come.
 Lint Spotter
Joined: 8/27/2009
Msg: 27
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Posted: 2/18/2010 3:15:31 PM

But I have to help pay for it. I'm glad everyone is enjoying my city for 2 weeks, but that's small comfort for the nasty budget and series of budgets we're facing for a decade to come.


Seriously... get off your high horse about this... what they're pumping into the economy there makes the cost miniscule in comparison. Add to that most of this was paid for by sponsorship and not taxation and it just sounds incredibly pathetic to bytch and complain.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 28
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Posted: 2/18/2010 3:20:18 PM
First - almost all the corporate money and broadcast rights money goes to the incredibly corrupt IOC.

Second - it's 2 weeks. How much revenue do you think can be generated by 2 weeks of hotel rooms and restaurant meals?

Finally - see the post above mine. It's not a high horse. I am expected to pay the bill. I have a right to complain about it. I disagree with the Olympics period. I don't think we should be sending athletes. The fact that I'm on the hook for the bill just pisses me off more.
 Lint Spotter
Joined: 8/27/2009
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Posted: 2/18/2010 3:39:57 PM

First - almost all the corporate money and broadcast rights money goes to the incredibly corrupt IOC.
I'm not even thinking of the money that the broadcasters are making and it's simply your opinion that the IOC is corrupt.

Second - it's 2 weeks. How much revenue do you think can be generated by 2 weeks of hotel rooms and restaurant meals?
So there was no prep work that generated jobs and income there for the past couple of years? Incredibly, you were prepared to host the olympics and threw it together in a couple of days in advance?

The fact that I'm on the hook for the bill just pisses me off more.
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/sport/costs-and-benefits-of-the-olympics/

Seriously... you are ill informed as to the benefits that your area is receiving because of the games. Disagree all you want, but there are many other areas that would give anything to have the benefits that this has brought to you because it far outweighs the costs.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 30
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Posted: 2/18/2010 3:50:57 PM
I'm not going to follow your links, because there have actually been studies done on Salt Lake City, Lake Placid and Turin on the economic costs and benefits (Hell, I'm not even bringing up Sarajevo), and it's not good. Seriously, have you considered going to Salt Lake City in winter for a vacation because of what you saw?

It's not my opinion that the IOC is corrupt. There are mountains of evidence of that. It's like saying it's my opinion that slavery existed in the Confederate States. All the money paid by broadcasters and corporate sponsors goes to the IOC, and a little bit of that is dribbled to the host city.

This is the Vancouver/Whistler games. Hotels in Vancouver go from 60% occupancy to 100% occupancy for a couple of weeks. Whistler is always booked solid all winter, so that occupancy rate doesn't change.
 Super Ryan
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 31
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Posted: 2/18/2010 5:18:30 PM
Just another note on the American ratings for the games.
For the first time in 6 years, American Idol was the second highest rated program, behind the Olympics.
 Super Ryan
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 32
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Posted: 2/18/2010 7:03:54 PM
How the heck did the Swiss hockey team get so good.
Aren't they usually fighting to stay out of relegation? And tonight they pushed Canada to the shoot-out.
I'm glad to see the Swiss program becoming top tier, just not when they play Canada.
 Outdoor2
Joined: 4/1/2006
Msg: 33
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Posted: 2/19/2010 1:01:22 AM
First off....Thanks, OP...much appreciated....

Thought is was a class act when the S.and B. medalists whipped up the crowd to cheer on M. Richer on winning the gold in the flower ceremony.

That she won was awesome! That her rivals cheered her on....well....it just doesn't get better that that! You can see that in many, if not most, of olympic and world cup competitions...many of them are very close friends....roommate together on the world cup circuit...egg each other on...the comradadrire they share helps each of them to attain there best.....
 Lint Spotter
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Posted: 2/19/2010 4:51:16 AM

Whistler is always booked solid all winter, so that occupancy rate doesn't change.
Really... then why is a Whistler resort being sold for bankruptcy?

http://slycapital.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/whistler-ski-resort-to-be-sold-at-bankruptcy-auction-during-olympics/

Read it or not... the area needed an infusion of money to survive the recession... unfortunately it still looks like it was too little too late.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 35
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Posted: 2/19/2010 7:26:52 AM
Whistler is not having financial problems. The investment fund that bought Intrawest a few years ago - Fortress - is going under. It's New York based and had lots of money to throw around a couple of years ago. Intrawest is a solid company and was an attractive buy for them.

Please don't keep throwing out nonsense.
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
Msg: 36
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Posted: 2/19/2010 7:29:11 AM

Really... then why is a Whistler resort being sold for bankruptcy?


Intrawest owns a bunch of resorts, not just Whistler. Whistler happens to be the one that actually makes money so of course all the debtors want to realize their interest in that particular asset rather than the other, less profitable ones. If Whistler wasn't worth anything, they'd allow business to continue as usual and scrape off whatever income they could from operations. But it is a gem, is completely booked all winter and likely worth enough to cover the debt incured from the other resorts.


I'm not going to follow your links, because there have actually been studies done on Salt Lake City, Lake Placid and Turin on the economic costs and benefits (Hell, I'm not even bringing up Sarajevo), and it's not good. Seriously, have you considered going to Salt Lake City in winter for a vacation because of what you saw?


Ya, why bother reading anything else? Olympics can be very profitable for the hosts. I live in Calgary and hundreds of athletes have moved to our city or stay for extended periods here to use our facilities which remain world class after 20 years. We've hosted several world cup events at many different venues and managed to even make money during the games themselves. There's nothing inherently unfrofitable about hosting olympic games. BC is well, mmmmm, let's say, not known for being shrewd economically.
 thatusernameistaken
Joined: 5/4/2009
Msg: 37
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Posted: 2/19/2010 8:52:49 AM
There should have been a separate thread for all the negative nancies to post their thoughts in. The OP came here to put up his nice thoughts on Canada and the Olympics and some of you chose to make it a debate on native land claims, budgets and sport safety. Piss off comes to mind.

Thank you to the OP.
 wings on my butt
Joined: 2/9/2009
Msg: 38
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Posted: 2/19/2010 1:58:18 PM
Yep a separate thread should be done for those who are anti Canada/anti Olympics. They can take their whining there.


A whiner whining about the whiners.^^^^^^

Oh and I am Canadian so how the heck can I be anti Canadian. As for being anti Olympics I wouldn't say I am. As I said I think they are stupid, boring and pointless but I also said that they are going to go one forever regardless of what I think.I am just glad that I do not own property in British Columbia.



Gee I wish I had so much time on my hands to complain.



For someone who thinks she does not have enough time on her hands to complain you sure are doing a very good imitation of it here.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 39
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Posted: 2/19/2010 2:02:04 PM
Yup, the irony was so overwhelming it rendered me speechless.
 Double Cabin
Joined: 11/29/2004
Msg: 40
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Posted: 2/19/2010 3:10:36 PM
Kelso,

Thank you for clearing up that little bit of weirdness for me. I'm sure I'll ingest it much better on the page, thanks for some summer reading.

I've got to agree with Haltime on the IOC. Like many in this life of ours those people make far more money than they should and prevent the Olympics from being much greater than it already is. The Olympics have substituted for battlefields, they are greatness and deserve more respect then they've gotten in recent years IMHO.

As to 'I'm with the Natives [indigenous, whatever the young lady said] on this one.: Which ones? There is not an honest person that doesn't admit to the atrocities of Europeans on this continent. There's also not an honest person that doesn't understand the last 6 centuries let alone any of them will be erased from history. We can't get anywhere if we don't understand what it takes to get there.

The only negative for me when it comes to Canada is that so many of my countrymen simply can't appreciate how great a friend our northern neighbor has been. That and the fact many of you sound like you're from Milwaukee.
 ItsMargo
Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 41
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Posted: 2/19/2010 3:23:00 PM
I had no idea Milwaukeeans sound like Canadians. Learn something new on the forums again!

I'm enjoying the bits of the Olympics I get to watch. My daughter suggested we should go to a cineplex and watch the gold medal hockey games on the theatre screen. Women and Men. Wouldn't miss the women's game for anything.
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