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 Gogetter1956
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Speaking of evolution, what I want has been evolving, partly because Betty Crocker doesn't live any more, partly because I'm older and I want someone my age and the pool of atractive women my age is significantly smaller than when I was 20 and partly because even though stiletto women are attractive, I prefer more natural beauty inside and out now.
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/22/2010 7:41:41 AM
Dude,

You're under the influence. You have no idea what you'd otherwise want.
 Miss W
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Posted: 4/22/2010 7:31:02 PM

I know it's a lot to ask for a mate whose head, heart, and hormones all line up, and for that to be mutual, but if you want to be happy in a relationship, isn't that what it takes? Either that, or you've got to have a lot of patience, acceptance, or an understanding that all the love songs are nonsense and what you're really dealing with in a partner is a complicated and challenging pet who just might be smarter than you think.



 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 4/22/2010 11:09:55 PM
Ace, I decided what I wanted BEFORE I was under the influence and amazingly enough I found what I wanted and more in one person who is by no means anymore perfect than I am, but she is very real and down to earth.

Just talking body:

I wanted red or brown hair. She's naturally brunette, but has a real kewl color of red going right now.

I decided the ideal height for me was 5'7" - she is 5'7".

I wanted fairly thin - she is still fairly thin.

I wanted nice legs - she has extremely nice legs all right, along with real nice feet.

I didn't want flat - she is not even close to flat.

I wanted a beautiful face - she is gorgeous.

Personality wise via Myers-Briggs we are a perfect match.

None of that has to do with being under the influence, but it certainly helped put me under the influence.
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/23/2010 12:22:21 AM
None of that has to do with being under the influence, but it certainly helped put me under the influence.


I was just busting your chops, GG. You're obviously under the influence however you got there. Just sayin'. I'm happy for ya!
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 4/23/2010 7:44:17 AM
Ace, I guess I missed the busting my chops part, but now that you mention it that's kewl. I hope tooting my own horn there wasn't too over the top, but if it was it's because I am under the influence :)

The Muse concert was fun. I really enjoyed the energy. While I wouldn't say I'm hooked on Muse, I do enjoy them. She is more in tune with today's rock music, which I'm really happy about because I haven't been keeping up with it, but I also introduced her to Brad Paisley. She was impressed. You should have seen her laugh when he sang "I love her...





...but I like to fish".
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/23/2010 10:55:44 AM
Don't worry about it, GG. Compared to some of the other things you've been known to say in the Califorum, tooting your own horn like that is a big improvement. (Again, my friend, just busting on you. Go get 'er!)
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 4/23/2010 1:35:43 PM
All I know Ace is since she does lean more your direction both politically and religiously, this is proof that I'm not a hater of those who disagree with me as I have been accused of, but our discourses on the forums have helped soften my attitude too, so thanks. That doesn't mean I have gone over to the dark side though, just so you know How's that for talking out of both sides of my mouth and busting your chops?
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/23/2010 3:14:22 PM
Actually, GG. If we're going to prevent either the armageddon that the conservatives fear or the ecological melt-down that the liberals fear, or both, we're all going to have to do a lot less talking and a lot more listening.

You can bust my chops all you want to as long as you're willing to learn how to grow some kind of food and teach others around you to do so as well. Near as I can tell, that is the one thing we can all do right now that will significantly reduce our dependency on foreign oil, reduce damage to the environment, and increase our resilience in the face of any kind of political instability.

GC, correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.
 matchlight
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Posted: 4/23/2010 3:35:24 PM

she does lean more your direction


I don't about the religion part, but I do know there's a California law that requires all single women to be lefties. That's why they all tend to sound the same--"I respect the environment and all living things, think polluters should be shot, believe there's never any excuse for violence, believe social justice means sharing everything you have with others, think mean, greedy businesses are yucky, think no one has any right to have a gun, believe free housing and medical care and a good-paying career and a college education are fundamental human rights, support the right of anyone in the world to just come and live here, see humankind as like one big, beautiful rainbow . . ."
 GolfCoast
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Posted: 4/24/2010 5:27:19 AM
Match she says all that stuff to show you she's deep, evolved and generous. Then she expects you to wander around west side boutiques with her every Saturday morning while she tries on dresses and you sit out front pondering the pain-pleasure equation of being with a California woman.

And don't forget your credit card.
 GolfCoast
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Posted: 4/24/2010 3:18:14 PM
LOL not me I draw weekend dawn patrol at the golf course, lunch with my buds, play a little gin rummy, and now will take one of those clear conscious naps.
 robin-hood
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Posted: 4/24/2010 3:30:50 PM
Not so long ago they used to write a few letters and send for a bride 3000 miles away. Now thats a 3-month trip through Indian territority just to have a man. As a woman I wouldn't want to have sent bad info and risk a return trip.

So this is not so bad. Besides I don't extend that many offers for lunch. We are in a recession ! :)
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 4/25/2010 11:00:52 PM

Actually, GG. If we're going to prevent either the armageddon that the conservatives fear or the ecological melt-down that the liberals fear, or both, we're all going to have to do a lot less talking and a lot more listening.

You can bust my chops all you want to as long as you're willing to learn how to grow some kind of food and teach others around you to do so as well. Near as I can tell, that is the one thing we can all do right now that will significantly reduce our dependency on foreign oil, reduce damage to the environment, and increase our resilience in the face of any kind of political instability.

GC, correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.


Ace, just how does growing food reduce dependence on foriegn oil? As near as I can tell, growing food requires land. My GF lives in an upstairs condo.

Also, how does drilling, mining and building modern refineries for oil and building modern steel mills near ports sound to you? Those two things alone, oil and steel, have been a huge part of the undoing of the USA once they were outsourced.
 Cherub1955
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Posted: 4/26/2010 12:17:53 AM
Be very careful of the widowed with one child, wife got killed in a car accident or something along those lines. If you google this type profile you will see it is a scam. They even send pics to your hotmail if you give them the address. There are many men who are looking to prey on woman especially if you indicate no family or children. It is scarey. I first noticed it on LavaLife and then not so frequently but in here. They send you a letter to your hotmail will horrendus spelling for one paragraph and the next paragraph is perfect (copied and pasted).

I have even told them that I am single, own millions in real estate and have nobody to bequeath it to. They get real excited then and want to meet you right away, however, they cannot book a flight for some reason and you will be asked to front the ticket. lol When it gets to the point where you have blocked them they will make up a new name with very little profile (not to waste time) and track you down again showing a different pic of him and his sweet little boy (that he no doubt copied from J.C. Penny online cataogue).

When you get an email such as this just copy and paste it into google and you find out all about it.
Happy Fishing~
 GolfCoast
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Posted: 4/26/2010 7:39:56 AM
I've zero expertise in the cleanup of oil spills but my buddy who is (has a firm that cleans spills out of LA Harbor) says the methods are so improved it will have minimal damage. They corral the oil, vacuum it up somehow, then treat the residuals with bacteria that breaks it down into less offensive stuff.

Let's cross our fingers.
 robin-hood
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Posted: 4/26/2010 8:13:21 AM
Appears someone posted in the wrong forum thread, and then there were are those that improperly responed to that post.

Proper etiquette would be to copy the post, delete it, and paste it into the intended thread.
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 4/26/2010 8:14:06 AM
The steel is cheaper right now elsewhere mainly because the last mills were built inland during WWII to keep them safer from attack. The main reason oil costs so much here is because of the eco nazis.

Anyway all of that is really way off topic. It's just hard not to comment on such a lively topic whenever it does come up My GF and I just don't let anything like that become a deal breaker.
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/26/2010 9:45:14 AM
Well, is it just me or is the appearance of the forums now getting degraded? I just updated firefox so maybe they aren't supporting it?

Anyway, GG, it doesn't take all that much land to grow produce for a family of 4. A suburban lot is way more than enough. A city lot can also produce a lot of food. The excess that the 'burbs produce would feed apartment dwellers in nearby urban centers much better than the two-week-old stuff now in the stores.

WRT steel, sure, put factories where transportation is easy. Put food production near where it will be consumed. Any and every efficiency we can build in will soften the landing. The thing is, we have to optimize the infrastructure we have now. Scraping and rebuilding is cheaper in the short run, and in some cases might be cheaper overall, but the calls from the extreme left to scrap the entire system are just as wasteful as the calls from the extreme right to let the market do our planning for us.
 matchlight
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Posted: 4/26/2010 5:54:38 PM

the calls from the extreme right to let the market do our planning for us


Nice try, but I've seen that ploy before. Even though a free market economy is exactly what this country and its constitution meant to establish, you characterize it as something on the "extreme right." And that conveniently moves the center in the opposite direction, making whatever amount of central control of the economy you favor seem relatively more normal and less intrusive.

I think you may have been studying the administration's stratagems. One of them is to coordinate with some radical types to have them attack the administration's policy on some issue as much too moderate and wishy-washy. Then they'll respond, patiently, that unlike those flighty radicals who criticized them as sell-outs, they're determined (for the good of the country, of course) to hold a sober, sensible, and moderate course. And after their lackeys in the news outlets have assured people for a while that yes, that's just what the administration's doing, many of them will begin to see the policy as more sober, sensible and moderate than it really is.
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/26/2010 8:03:51 PM
Oh my, Match. We've been over this before. How will you get your water without a regulated monopoly to manage the pipeline?
 robin-hood
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Posted: 4/26/2010 8:51:03 PM
Well ladies rule out these fools that have no manners to post in the wrong thread !

Its such a simple thing to open a new thread to vent their issues :)

In fact maybe there is some truth to this thread !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 matchlight
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Posted: 4/26/2010 9:24:39 PM
^^^^^^I'm sure everyone knows that what I lack in etiquette, I make up for in sincerity. Apparently someone turned the conversation to politics, and I was one of the victims of their prank. I'll go now--more cynical, but wiser.
 AceOfSpace
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Posted: 4/26/2010 10:03:36 PM
LOL!!!

It all comes down to politics, if only sexual politics. Nice slam, Robin!

I might be political, but I'm not as cynical as all that. A good friend of mine was just telling me about the three poisons that create suffering according to the Buddhist method (which is different from the religion--old Guatama wasn't really interested in having anyone worship _him._)

They are: attachment, aversion, and indifference. Each reaction creates distance, a sense of separation, and unless one catches it and makes a point to reconnect with present experience, alienation that leads to suffering.

Been there, done all three, and never once had much fun doing them. So why would I want to practice any of them with my love life, or with my political stance? There is a connection with home-grown food that is more valuable than the so-called convenience. There is a connection with love that is a balance of affection and respect. There is a connection with a political view that strikes a balance between ideology and practicality. We make the best agreements we can, and we look for ways to constantly improve them for the good of all concerned. If we aren't doing that, we're acting out of cynicism. That cynicism spoils things no matter what ideology we claim, because any ideology that is disconnected through any of those three poisons creates suffering when it plays out in reality. Markets, cynically applied, lead to wage slavery. Socialism, cynically applied, leads to financial ruin. Campaigns based on any of them soon lapse into lies. Relationships based on any of them, or any combination, become crazymaking traps.

So, no. I'm actually less cynical right now than I have ever been. Thanks, G!
 Gogetter1956
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Posted: 4/26/2010 11:07:49 PM

They are: attachment, aversion, and indifference. Each reaction creates distance, a sense of separation, and unless one catches it and makes a point to reconnect with present experience, alienation that leads to suffering.


Ace, could you rephrase that so it is clearer? Honestly, after reading it 3 times I really don't get it. Also, could you give some examples?

My take on markets, capitalism, supply and demand which I simply call free enterprise is there is a downside just like there is for free will. People make mistakes or become victims of those who simply choose to be evil. We need to be willing to help those who make mistakes or become victims and end up in such a deep hole they cannot get out of on their own. Take care of those who are thirsty, hungry and need clothes. Leave the rest of everyone else alone as much as possible. Freedom has no guarantees other than yes, it does take all that if you want to make more than enough to simply survive.

Home grown food isn't for everyone or even the majority of people any more than public nudity is. Good luck with that ideology, really BTW, personally, I am for both, but I know I'm in the minority and have no delusions of grandeur about changing that.

I simply find it best to be willing to try to understand an opposing point of view. That doesn't mean you have to agree, it means you respect someone elses right to decide what to believe without being threatened by it and you are sincerely interested in trying to understand what they have to say. I may not always get that right, but at least I understand the concept
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