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 sweetest
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FFS, interesting post--thanks. It's great to hear that it's doing good things for you.

I don't follow any real diet except that I tend to eat very healthily...and stray just a bit everyday (like clockwork actually ;) to keep me happy and not feeling deprived.

My dad discovered food combining at least 10 or 15 years ago, so I understand the Diamond's Fit For Life concept rather well...and still practice aspects of that to a certain degree.

I like the list you've presented...and have created a list of my own from your list of the alkalizing foods that I tend to eat so that I can incorporate them when I shop.

Keep those updates coming!
 clambroth
Joined: 10/27/2007
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Posted: 4/2/2010 4:46:21 PM
I follow a high carbohydrate low protein diet because I am a runner. I eat large quantities of vegetables including potatos, cauliflower, broccoli, brussel spouts, asparagas and salad. I eat fairly large quantities of raw hot peppers including jalopenio, serrano, cubanel. Lots of raw red onions and no garlic. Beans are my primary source of protein (combined of course with starch to make the amino acid chain a complete protein) although I eat a lot of crunchy peanut butter and nuts. I don't touch fruit other than occasional apple cider or no sugar fruit drinks. Haven't had any meat, chicken, fish, seafood or anything like it for 35 years now and along the way have managed to run around the world mileage wise just three times (84,000 miles) and just starting last trip on way to life time goal of 100,000 miles. Only illnesses are occasional colds that son would typically bring home from school and alcohol related maladies. Oh yeah, I drink. Oooops, can't be perfect.
 MichelleRenee1234
Joined: 10/19/2009
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Posted: 4/7/2010 2:13:56 PM
How would one go about a diet like this on a budget? I know I can't afford to buy a whole bunch of fruits and veggies a week. They go bad too fast and are just too expensive. All I eat per week is, romaine (I prefer kale but find it goes bad too quickly), red bell pepper, red onion, cucumbers, tomatoes, naval oranges, bananas, potatoes, raw skinless chicken breast, almonds, walnuts, raisins, eggs, coconut oil, PAM, salt, black pepper, turmeric, 1 cup coffee a day, 5-6 cups green tea per day, Kraft low fat balsamic & olive oil dressing, and fish of some kind (tuna steak, salmon, cod, sole, halibut, catfish, scallops on occasion), sometimes I'll buy a roasted turkey sandwich on rye w/romaine, onion, tomato and mustard at work, and also sometimes I'll have spaghetti and sauce with a salad. That's pretty much all I eat except on the rare occasions I go out. You guys look phenomenal! I have acne and try eating to clear up my skin as well... I was wondering if someone could give me a quick critique and some suggestions perhaps?
 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
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Posted: 5/14/2011 6:34:01 AM

I have acne and try eating to clear up my skin as well..


The alkaline lifestyle may be a good choice for you.

Vegetables..
MSM is a good supplement for acne.
But get the hormones checked.
Could be stress.


How would one go about a diet like this on a budget?


Buying seasonal..Buy organic with just the fruits/vegs that are hard to wash ( thin skins and berries, broccoli )..Dairy.


Good luck!!
 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
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Posted: 5/17/2011 1:24:45 PM

Most folks I know don't keep up this kind of diet over an extended period of time. You want to find healthy ways of eating that you can sustain for the rest of your life.


Oh Gawd..... What did we do before white bread?

We would have gone extinct?

Soda? Processed sugar? Yeah......... Death would have ensued quickly for our species.


How hard can learning not to eat starches/ sugars with animal products can it be?

The rest is common sense.
It grows/ walks/flies/swims you usually can eat it.

EXCEPT THAT THERE BLOW FISHIE
 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
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Posted: 5/18/2011 3:41:54 AM
^^^^^^^^^

Your body leaches calcium (alkaline forming) from the bone when you eat an acidic forming diet to keep it balanced.

I get what you are saying CCat. Our urine would burn a hole in our bladder if the body did not alkalize it on most American diets.

But our bodies do things to stop damage to itself ( self preservation) and those alkalizing factors come from somewhere. Bone.

Thus the decline in bone density so prevalent among most Americans way to young.


Just as if you went completely fat free..Your liver would start pumping fat (cholesterol) to keep your body and brain working.
I was a strict vegan for years..thinking fat was evil.

Cholesterol was very high and they wanted me on drugs for it.
No way was I caving in..Experimented..diet change was my way.
I have kept blood work records for years..going from vegan to adding some meat, nuts and fish oil.

It's an amazing change.

Not a good idea to be fat free either..but people do and live.

It has been the only lifestyle I can eat as much as I want, not count calories and improved my heath dramatically.

Obviously from your pictures you take good care of yourself and may be eating a very healthy diet.

For some people like me..This has been the answer to health and staying at a good weight and being prescription drug free keep a health body.
 arwen52
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Posted: 5/20/2011 3:31:18 PM


CheshireCatalyst is an epidemiologist and knows a lot about physiology. What she says is correct. The whole notion of alkaline diets is completely unfounded and is promoted by people who do not understand physiology. These things *can* be measured and there is absolutely no support for it.
 satx78218
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Posted: 5/21/2011 10:05:49 AM
So if one is consuming acid-producing diet (lots of fast carbs, meat, etc), how does the body maintain a homestatic pH if not by neutralizing the excess acid with calcium from bones and teeth?

btw, if you think that what you consume (esp not consuming alkalizing foods and minerals) has no effect on your pH and skeletal/dental health, then Google "proton pump inhibitors osteoporosis".
 satx78218
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Posted: 5/21/2011 1:14:02 PM
typo: homeostatic
 Talvisota
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Posted: 6/15/2011 4:02:49 PM
If we take a deep breath and step back and take a look at the larger picture, it becomes apparent that the S.A.D. (Standard American Diet), which is essentially the Typical Canadian Diet, are one in the same.

For thousands of years humans have evolved in an environment where calorie rich food was an actual scarcity. With the advent of the industrial age and cost-efficiency at every step of production, there's no wonder as to why there's essentially GMO-corn in EVERYTHING in the supermarket.

Raw fruits were a treat in nature, and vegetables, herbs and wheatgrass/kale/etc were the main staple of our evolutionary diet. I don't think a human being 2000 years ago would have recognized what a corndog is.

Most acidic/alkaline lists of foods are based on the ash-test, which takes the amount of burned sugar (before ingesting) and lists it in that manner. Which is why there are some things that you'd think are acidic to your body, when in fact, once ingested, has an alkalizing effect overall (ie. lemon-water, bananas, tomatoes).

The main goal here is to eat raw fruits and vegetables, preferably organic. No meat or fish, as flesh of any kind taxes our body in terms of digestion. Most fish and meat are fed on corn-based diets, once again the bottom line is the priority, not the consumer.

Sources of protein can includes soaked nuts/seeds and almonds, which help sprouting and disengaging enzyme inhibitors, increasing bodily absorption. It doesn't matter if you eat 10 lbs of almonds a day. If tannic acid is present, the body will have difficulty absorbing nutrients.

Other grains of protein without ingesting meat include Quinoa and spelt. Beans/legumes include roman, navy and kidney beans.

And obviously stay away from dairy. Humans are the only mammals that stick to milk after weaning age. Milk is mostly casein, a protein our body dislikes. Cheers.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:36:48 AM
Year 2017
Still, disease free and no arthritis pain meds, still lean @ 116-118 while eating all I want to by following the alkaline forming -food combining program.


Wondering if anyone else has tried adding more vegts/fruits, less grains/sugars/ animal flesh and the effect you have noticed
 arwen52
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Posted: 3/7/2017 5:55:40 PM
The surge in your energy is probably either a placebo effect or else you're just paying better attention to what you eat, getting exercise & sleep, etc.

The acid/alkaline diet think is quackery. Our body tightly regulates the pH of body fluids. That and food combining are not scientifically based. Think of this: your stomach acid has about the same pH as battery acid. Whatever you put into it is not going to alter your blood pH that much.

From Medicinenet: "A pH of 7 is neutral. The lower the pH, the more acidic the blood. A variety of factors affect blood pH including what is ingested, vomiting, diarrhea, lung function, endocrine function, kidney function, and urinary tract infection. The normal blood pH is tightly regulated between 7.35 and 7.45."

I'm glad you're feeling better but it probably has nothing to do with food combining or your diet affecting the pH of your blood.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:15:01 AM
^^^^
You obviously are misinformed about alkaline forming lifestyles and the purpose of them.
 arwen52
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Posted: 7/5/2017 6:11:25 PM
I've known about the whole alkaline diet/food combining thing since 1972.

Only someone who does not understand human physiology could believe in it.

Don't take my word for it, go back and read CheshireCat's comments. She's an epidemiologist, she knows what she's talking about.

You are free to believe what you want but that doesn't make it right. And I'm free to correct misinformation when I see it.

Here's an article written by a dietician looking at the evidence.

https://authoritynutrition.com/the-alkaline-diet-myth/

Here's another article written by a cancer specialist:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ph-miracle-living-dr-robert-o-young-finally-arrested-but-will-it-stop-him/

The body doesn't care what you believe. It's going to function the way it functions. You can learn about how it works and make decisions based on fact or you can cling to fantasy and let that be your guide. Your choice. Eating a so-called "alkaline diet" will probably not do any harm and may cause some people to improve their diet but not for the reasons they believe. However, I've seen what can happen when people shun real physiology and when you are in a health crisis situation, misinformation can make you ill and even lead to an early death. I've watched people die or come close to dying because they trusted quacks instead of people who really understood how the body works. It's pretty hard on kids when they lose their mother at a young age because their mom believed in quackery.
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