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 Earthpuppy
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Actually, there is about 75% of the forested land than there was pre-Columbus infestation. While that does not sound so bad, monocultures and extremely simplified ecosystems are included in forest cover. Where there were once chestnut trees, elm, and other giants, there are now splindly remnants, far simpler in compostion, resiliency and vitality. We continue to import pestilence and disease that continue to decimate what remains. Pine farms are subject to brownouts from their propensity to help breed beetle outbreaks of biblical proportions. The pine farms are also sucking the last nutrients out of lands that may soon not be able to support even pine growth. Pine farms contain 90% less biodiversity than real forests. Some other considerations from the perspective of living in the "woodbasket", the South that provides 60% of forest products in the US.
•· The area of natural forest across the South declined from 356 million acres in colonial times to 182 million acres today.
•· Half of the forested wetlands of the South (35 million acres) have been lost.
•· Natural pine forests declined from 72 million acres in 1953 to 34 million acres in 1999.
•· Pine plantations have been displacing natural forests for the past 50 years and now occupy 32 million acres (15 percent) of the current Southern “forest.”
•· There are 14 forest community types in the South that have been reduced to less than 2% of their original range. Additionally, there are 25 forest community types that are at less than 15% of their original range and another 11 at less than 30% of their original range.
•· There are more threatened forested ecosystems in the South than any other region of the country.

In addition to the wetlands losses to pine farms, the pine farms disrupt hydrological cycles where they are established , drying up what were once year round stream flows. Pines also sequester half the carbon than real forests do.

With existing pressures, the loss of forests will continue to accelerate. The addition of the biomass energy scamsters will quickly double this rate of forest loss. Sprawl, mountain top removal, pestilence, disease and growing demands for forest products will reduce these woods to an increasingly small fraction of their current size.

As we panic about oil and coal running out, we have to come up with a plant that does not liquidate our life support system.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 10/16/2010 5:32:35 PM
Ya don't have to go all ad hominim Paul. I rarely acuse folkf of the flat earth society with burying their heads. I do try to present some semblence of supporting studies and conclusions and I note that these are not reciprocated in any credible ways.

It was not that long ago that the earth was flat, the center of the universe, that rivers could take all we could throw into them, infinite sinks of our sins, till they caught on fire and stunk of vast fish kills. The neo-flat-earthers still belive that aquifers are not being deleted, that most humans on the planet don't face food and water insecurity, that most species being doomed to extinction are not from human influences, and that most human over-population and consumption issues are not caused by humans.

The odd dichotomy of humans being the most significant species, and the least responsible is really odd, given our supposed sentience.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 10/23/2010 7:46:58 PM
The gift that keeps on killing...out of the headlines, but coming at us for years to come.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/10/massive_stretches_of_weathered.html
 xlr8ingmargo
Joined: 10/23/2010
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Posted: 11/8/2010 5:53:50 PM
Thank you kindly for the post to remind us the horror has only really just started.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 3/23/2011 12:39:06 PM
Nope...just another leaky well and corporate crime scene.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/03/houston_company_accepts_respon.html
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:56:20 AM
BP’s maximum fine for Gulf of Mexico oil spill is cut by billions
Federal court rules that size of Deepwater Horizon spill in 2010 was smaller than the US government had claimed

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The Guardian, Friday 16 January 2015 08.52 GMT


BP will face a maximum fine of $13.7bn under the Clean Water Act for its Gulf of Mexico oil spill in 2010, several billion less than feared.

Federal magistrate Carl Barbier ruled on Thursday that the size of the spill from the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, the worst offshore spill in US history, was smaller than the government had claimed.

He said that it amounted to 3.19m barrels, well below the government’s estimate of 4.09m barrels, which could have led to penalties of up to $17.6bn.

US-listed shares of BP rose about 1% to $36.20 in after-hours trading as investors worried about the size of potential penalties breathed a sigh of relief.


Read more at:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/16/bp-fine-oil-spill-gulf-mexico-cut-deepwater-horizon



And lets just thank the baby jesus that it looks like those investors will be ok and not give a sh*t about the effects that using ~1.8 million gallons of dispersants will have on the environment.
 satx78218
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Posted: 1/19/2015 9:41:14 AM
the govt should appeal the cut in estimated barrels spilled, go for the max $18B fine, payable in 90 days.
 satx78218
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:53:33 AM
Real Value of Deepwater Horizon Disaster Payments Depend on BP’s Tax Deductions

Over 80 percent of the total money BP has paid in connection with the Gulf oil spill so far qualifies for tax deductions. Only the Department of Justice’s $4 billion criminal fine and the SEC’s $535 million penalty were explicitly non-deductible by law. Any Clean Water Act payments will likely be non-deductible, because they will qualify as legal penalties, and the EPA, unlike many agencies, tends to be explicit that such payments be regarded as penalties.

Federal tax law forbids fines and penalties to the government from being treated as tax deductions, but settlements negotiated with agencies often fail to spell out whether a payment is technically a penalty, and even some penalties can be deducted if companies can argue that they are not meant to be punitive.

Even after the current Clean Water Act charges are resolved, BP also has to settle its liabilities through the Natural Resources Damage Assessment (NRDA) process, which will likely cost the company several billion more dollars. Unlike the EPA, payments made under the NRDA process do not follow EPA processes, and have in the past been tax deductible. Therefore, any payment made through the NRDA process will likely have a significantly lowered value after taxes.

In 2011, BP claimed from $10 billion to $13 billion in tax credits and therefore paid no federal taxes that year. Because corporations aren’t required to report the details of tax deductions they claim, and settlement agreements don’t need to specify which payments will qualify for tax deductions, the public can’t determine how much BP has already claimed and how much they might claim in future years. BP’s total expenditure on addressing the Gulf oil spill has already exceeded the initial charges claimed in 2010, and thus BP will likely be able to file for additional tax credits.

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2015/01/27/real-value-deepwater-horizon-disaster-payments-depend-bps-tax-deductions
 satx78218
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:57:02 AM
Millions of gallons of BP oil found resting on the Gulf floor

Researchers at Florida State University identified some 6 to 10 million gallons of BP oil buried in the sediment at the bottom of the Gulf, covering a 9,300 square mile area southeast of the Mississippi Delta. Their findings, published in the journal Environmental Science and Technology, help solve the mystery of where all the oil went: a federal judge ruled that BP spilled about 134 million gallons of oil in total, although government estimates put that amount even higher.

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/30/millions_of_gallons_of_bp_oil_found_resting_on_the_gulf_floor/
 HFX_RGB
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:58:24 AM

Millions of gallons of BP oil found resting on the Gulf floor


That is why they where so quick to use the disbursements, as that is all it does is attach to it, and drag it down.

Sweeping it under the rug.
 SeainaStorm
Joined: 2/7/2015
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Posted: 2/13/2015 7:42:36 PM
Do you mean dispersants, as in dispersing agents?

Bp used dispersing agents because it was mandated to use dispersing agents by the EPA National Contingency Plan, which is federal law. Bp quit using dispersing agents when it to was directed by federal agencies, which was the day the well was capped.
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