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 *mae* flowers
Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 85
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If I see one more middle aged woman wearing pants that show her hips and belly, and a shirt that is three sizes to small, as her body protrudes from bottom and top, I think I will puke as well. I promise not to dress like my grand father, if you promise not to dress like your daughter!!


...Unfortunately most of the jeans are made with the youngins in mind...low cut, low rise. Some stuff just pop out if ya happen to be the slightest bit "curvy"

I like to see a man dress appropriately for his age and for the occasion. I tell ya, I have no problem with watching a fella walk by in a nice fitting pair of jeans ....*wipes away the drool*

...mae
 whytwater
Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 86
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 8/30/2010 7:12:22 AM
^^^^^^ LOL. K, I gotta know, what, exactly, are "winkle pickers"? I do try to enlarge my vocabulary, when the opportunity presents.
 soflnighteagle
Joined: 8/12/2009
Msg: 88
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 9/4/2010 6:51:18 PM
I will admit that I do need a woman's help when it comes to fashion. For the moment I get my 21 year old daughter to help me pick out nice clothes, but the truth is I have no idea what looks good on me and what doesn't. I've tired looking on line, and in magazines, but the amount of information is limited. Walk into any department store and notice the difference in area allocated for men as opposed as what women have as far as selection. We have very limited color and very limited style. I do have a couple of gay male friends that have given me some advice on where to find nice stylish clothing, but there are very few places, and at most of these places each shirt cost over $200. My daughter can by a lot more nice clothes for herself with the same amount of money, so it cost us a lot more to buy nice clothes too. So there you go, each piece of clothing cost us a lot more than what clothes do for women, and we have no idea what looks good.
 arwen52
Joined: 3/13/2008
Msg: 89
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Posted: 9/23/2010 3:45:07 PM
I used to wonder why all my gay male friends looked so attractive and all may straight male friends looked so crummy. I thought somehow that the gene for being gay and the gene for being good looking must be the same gene. I finally realized that the gay guys were not inherently better looking, but they took a little care with their appearance. They got a nice haircut and chose clothing that looked good on them.

I was an ultra plain jane when I was younger, finally got some help with my hair and clothing when I was about 40 years old. You don't have to be a fashion plate or spend a lot of money, you just have to take a little care. I look a lot nicer than I did in the past and I feel better about myself when I leave the house, knowing I look nice.

My ex dresses really neatly. He lives in jeans but he gets dark ones that fit nicely and they look a little classier than regular jeans. An ex girlfriend taught him how to choose shirts that look flattering on him. He gets a nice haircut. He could just as easily look like a slob. Instead, he always looks neat and attractive without making a big deal of it.

Guys, do yourselves and and the women around you a favor. Most of you can look a lot better than you do. Get some help. You have to put clothes on. You might as well choose clothes that look good on you. Give us something interesting to look at. Being a slob or not caring about your appearance does not make you more of a man. Find a female friend who can shop with you or a guy who knows how to choose clothes that are comfortable and yet appealing.

Really, I am so tired of the guys my age looking dumpy.
 damassteel
Joined: 7/22/2009
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Posted: 9/27/2010 5:00:01 PM
This whole thread just blows by me. I can remember when a man knowing how to build a wardrobe and dress sharp was a true "Man Skill". Nothing "gay" about it. Somebody please explain to me when it all went wrong????? To me, guys who need women to dress them are the "not up on man skills"ones. just WHEN did it become Gay to know how to dress properly??? I think I've lived in ignorant bliss where this issue is concerned. I see young men and how they dress and just shake my head; they dress like 8 year olds!!! Growing up I was an aspiring jazz musician and looked to guys like Miles Davis to be the fashionista I emulated, always hip, always cool, always well pressed and dressed! I guess young guys just don't have these kinds of role models anymore.
 christ on a crutch
Joined: 2/1/2009
Msg: 91
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Posted: 9/27/2010 10:56:57 PM

If you don't iron, for goodness sake just take them to the dry cleaners at least for a date... Make an effort. Most women do!

who are you speaking to? the men who showed up for dates dressed the way they liked, rather than the way you liked? rather pointless to chide them in this forum, since it's doubtful any of them are reading. and if your lecture if for men you HAVEN'T dated, your first flaw is to make an assumption about them, since you have no idea how neatly or not they dress, and your second flaw is to address your message to no one you know it applies to.

all in all, a post that matches the merit of the op perfectly. my compliments.
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 92
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 9/28/2010 2:54:30 AM
Once, just once in my life I loved and lived with a man who *knew* when he looked nice. Knew *how* to look nice. And paid to look nice. It was a trip. And he was an actor, who was very well aware of what costumes do, or can do. . . . His closet was twice the size of mine, and there's no way the man was gay. Promise, lol!

 _TALL_IQ2_
Joined: 2/10/2010
Msg: 93
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 9/28/2010 2:56:31 PM
Very few American men dress well. I do think they have this fear that they may be seen as feminine if they dress trendy


Actually many men I know dress for how comfortable the clothes feel, not how trendy we are or seemingly needing to try to impress others..

After the 6-mile hike in yesterdays evening heat my friends and I were more interested in watching Jupiter rise rather than criticizing one anothers clothing...
 christ on a crutch
Joined: 2/1/2009
Msg: 94
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Posted: 9/28/2010 4:20:44 PM
so you addressed this to the male readers of this forum:

If you don't iron, for goodness sake just take them to the dry cleaners at least for a date... Make an effort. Most women do!

and yet ...

I have never dated anyone on the forums

you are urging a group of men to dress better on dates, when you've never seen how any of them actually dress on dates. the value of an opinion corresponds to the knowledge behind it, and you have none of the knowledge your opinion implies, so it has no value.
 whytwater
Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 95
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 9/29/2010 7:02:16 AM

Never mind men over 45, *all* men should know that " the cut of the cloth" enhances their over-all appeal


Clarence Darrow, pressed by interviewers to explain his shabby appearance when compared to William Jennings Bryant, replied, "My suits are as good as his; he just doesn't sleep in his."
As every restaurant, and the Godiva Chocolate folks, know, presentation is "everything". If you want to catch the eye of those you encounter, for whatever reason, "spruce it up" seems to be the way to go. Requires some vanity, to do it every day, but that's okay. Jesus, by all reports, was no clothes-horse, but he was different!
I more often opt for "different", most for truth-in-advertising reasons, , but anybody who denies his/her vanity is probably lying, and in that respect, we're pretty much all the same.
Dress for success, as the saying goes.
I still prefer different.
 sexyisback!
Joined: 9/14/2010
Msg: 96
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 9/29/2010 4:18:42 PM

My daughter and I were recently at the mall and I noticed several fairly attractive men around my age. Problem is they all had their pants pulled up under their armpits -- usually wearing a belt with a shirt tucked in -- kinda like Ed Grimley on Saturday Night Live! Now, while I'm no fashion model, I try to keep my wardrobe current -- without trying to look like a teenager.



oh but ARMY shirts are in?




what ever.


yeah..especially for people who aren't even IN the army???
 satx78218
Joined: 10/30/2007
Msg: 97
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Posted: 9/30/2010 7:14:58 AM
yep, 45+ years women, many of whom are overweight or obese, whining about how MEN look? :lol

no matter how many $1000s spent on clothes, makeup, hair, plastic surgery, girdles, there's no hiding all that junk in the trunk, the spare tires, the multiple chins, the missing neck.

There's seems to be a female delusion that men choose to look bad, while women have no choice about their weight.
 satx78218
Joined: 10/30/2007
Msg: 98
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Posted: 9/30/2010 5:47:50 PM
women complaining about men's clothes is OK, it's not bashing

men complaining about (almost all 45+) women's excess weight is not OK. It's bashing.
 *mae* flowers
Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 99
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 9/30/2010 6:27:24 PM

no matter how many $1000s spent on clothes, makeup, hair, plastic surgery, girdles, there's no hiding all that junk in the trunk, the spare tires, the multiple chins, the missing neck.


If one is spending $1000's of dollars on plastic surgery, I think they may be taking care of that "junk in the trunk"...just sayin.

Girdles? Do woman still wear them?

...mae
 whytwater
Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 100
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 10/1/2010 8:05:24 AM

If one is spending $1000's of dollars on plastic surgery, I think they may be taking care of that "junk in the trunk"...just sayin.

Girdles? Do woman still wear them?


I think most choose to hide it, rather than fix it, or (yikes!) cut it off. Lol Not long ago, I noticed an ad for a man girdle, to compact the waist (not sure whether everybody got that message, or I was somehow singled out, lol). Maybe women have gotten past the girdle thing, but those manufacturers are stubborn, and apparently deadset on finding new markets.


I think some men are just use to wearing their trousers like that.


I don't think so- that hurts! Lol Besides, think of the almost constant, almost inevitable wedgies. Lol It's usually better to alleviate the pressure on the 'nads, for all kinds of reasons. Like Elaine (Dreyfus) once said, "I don't know how you guys walk around with those things."
 christ on a crutch
Joined: 2/1/2009
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Posted: 10/1/2010 9:18:36 AM

gender bashing by the forum bullies because some of us women are overweight apparently and have NOTHING of VALUE to say

to disagree with a woman or point out the flaws in her reasoning is not gender bashing. gender bashing would be to say ALL women have nothing of value to say, and no one has said that.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 102
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 10/1/2010 9:26:20 AM

45+ men and fashion

The man in my life is not 45+, he's 44. And he's quite concerned with fashion, health and fitness. Just because one is a certain age doesn't mean they lose interest in these things, maybe it means they were never interested to begin with. For some of us, me included, I need a man who is conscious of his appearance. And this particular man in my life wants me to be conscious of my appearance. Thankfully. Fashion is different for ALL people, but if you are concerned with it, it's important to meet/date or whatever, someone who shares the same ideologies. At least for me. JMO
 arwen52
Joined: 3/13/2008
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Posted: 10/1/2010 11:36:38 PM

European men know how to dress well regardless of age... Very few American men dress well. I do think they have this fear that they may be seen as feminine if they dress trendy or even smartly (similiar to what damassteel above said).


My experience, too. In Italy, even the punky young guys have a decent sense of style. A lot of the countries I've travelled in, the men take a lot more pride in their appearance than they generally do here. Latin men - often very sharp dressers. I know those are broad generalizations but I'll stand by them as generalizations.

I'm around a lot of college aged dancers and most of the guys dress really neatly. They are fun to look at. I don't know how the rest of the college kids are dressing but the dancers are pretty sharp.
 sexyisback!
Joined: 9/14/2010
Msg: 104
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 10/2/2010 2:16:14 PM
so the message I get here is that many women think it's way more important for a man to 'take pride in his appearance' and 'dress well'' than to treat women well.. hasn't been much mention of the relative merits of "European" or "Other" men on that aspect vs. bad old generally (consensus says) fugly-appearing N. American men.

In my understanding in many places in Europe (because every European is of course far more sophisticated than any American) it is quite acceptable for men to have multiple mistresses, while married, and/or many affairs.

N. American women who bemoan the looks of their men, if "we'" agreed to dress/look better ( i.e., more"European") does that mean you would in turn accept us having mistresses & affairs?

Deal?

fair's fair, right??
 arwen52
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Posted: 10/17/2010 5:22:57 PM

so the message I get here is that many women think it's way more important for a man to 'take pride in his appearance' and 'dress well'' than to treat women well..


And where exactly did you see this stated?
 Southern_Gypsy1
Joined: 7/7/2010
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Posted: 10/18/2010 7:35:40 PM
Im a 52 y/o female who does wear dressess as well and jeans at times.But mens shirts! no way!
 Southern_Gypsy1
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Posted: 10/18/2010 7:45:03 PM
Im 5'11" and according to goverment weight charts Im overweight. Nonetheless I get my share of male attention. Personally, I havent found many of the complaints that I read here to be an issue for me. I dont really judge people by how they dress, what kind of car they live in or which neighborhood they live in. The biggest problem Ive had in meeting someone compatable is that it seems so many people over the age of 45 have become bitter and cynical and have major trust issues. Also, doesnt anyone actually like to get out and particiapate in live?
 whytwater
Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 108
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 10/19/2010 4:07:37 AM

I dont really judge people by how they dress, what kind of car they live in or which neighborhood they live in.


I do love my jeep, but I have too many clothes to fit in it, and my work clothes need hangers, so can't really live in it, lol; but if you judge me by my choice of ride, you wouldn't probably wouldn't be far off the mark.


The biggest problem Ive had in meeting someone compatable is that it seems so many people over the age of 45 have become bitter and cynical and have major trust issues. Also, doesnt anyone actually like to get out and particiapate


You're dead on target with that, imo. Mostly smilin', kinda naive, and game for most anything is my usual approach. Kinda like my car. Lol


I am a man over 45, and no pants pulled up under the armpits for me.
On a date, I usually wear a short denim skirt, tights, and heels . . . .


Humor appears too infrequently in these threads, but is probably the most effective rhetorical tool.
 naysaying_knicktwist
Joined: 11/19/2009
Msg: 109
45+ men and fashion
Posted: 10/19/2010 10:54:38 AM
'Fashion' is a low-on-the-totem-pole consideration for me. I'm definitely not trendy, and my sense of style could be described as 'casual.' I'm not too concerned with what my bf wears. I do appreciate clean and fresh-smelling. I'm less concerned with how my bf looks and more concerned with his comfort. If socks-with-sandals feels good to him? Fine with me. I tend to see such fashion 'faux pas' as adorably goofy, not as offensive to my sensibilities. Of course I have my preferences in clothing - for some reason I've never liked polo shirts - but the whole 'what to wear' thing is not a big deal to me.
 whytwater
Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 110
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Posted: 10/21/2010 4:49:30 AM

Put him in a Bentley in torn up shorts and flip flops ..HOW you like him now?



.I've witnessed a guy in torn shorts hop out of Mazerati.
He got a lot of positive comments from the ladies I was with. Wasn't even that attractive, but...
If I drive up in my rusted 1994 Ford Taurus and I'm wearing a suit you wouldn't think twice huh?


Women, in general, just seem to accessorize well, and have a keen/trained eye for men who do likewise. Seems a pricey car, like a Coach bag, goes well with almost any ensemble. The car signals success; perhaps the shorts and ff's show his unpretentiousness, an alluring nonchalance about "filthy lucre"
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