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 SmellyOne
Joined: 10/6/2009
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Lots of misinformation. First, to clear it up, the number in HSV-1 and HSV-2 has *NOTHING* to do with the location. They are actually 2 different viruses. That said, HSV-1 USUALLY is on the face (lips, nose, and in worst case scenarios, eyes or even brain). HSV-2 is USUALLY genitals (also including anywhere in the "boxer shorts" area).

So, if you don't have either virus and someone with a cold sore (99% HSV-1) gives you oral sex, you will get genital herpes of the TYPE 1 variant. It doesn't turn into HSV-2.

Most studies seem to conclude that oral HSV-2 is rare and recurrences are extremely rare, whereas genital HSV-1 can still be somewhat frequent in recurrence.

If you already have cold sores (again, most likely HSV-1) and someone with a cold sore gives you oral sex, it is less likely (though nothing is 0) that you will contract it again, since you have antibodies fr the virus already. You WILL catch HSV-2, however, if you have unprotected intercourse with someone else who has it. HSV-1 antibodies will provide some resistance to catching it, but not enough to keep you safe.

Knowing all this about HSV makes me glad that I grew up with cold sores, because I'm better educated and actually somewhat protected against the virus. While I'm certainly not being judgmental about genital herpes, I also don't ever want it.
 SmellyOne
Joined: 10/6/2009
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Posted: 8/21/2010 1:02:07 PM
@ToWoman: You are correct. I think HSV-1 and HSV-2 share about 50% of their DNA. So, they are extremely similar, but not exactly the same. I was really trying to point out that people assume oral HSV-1 will "turn into" genital HSV-2, which just isn't the case.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 21
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Posted: 10/17/2010 6:12:58 PM
aren't cold sores actually herpes?
 arwen52
Joined: 3/13/2008
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Posted: 10/17/2010 6:54:37 PM
Yes. Avoid contact when either of you has an outbreak, including the prodrome stage. That's when you get a tingly/sore sensation before you get the actual blister.

Even though you both have the virus, you may not have the exact same strain. And you can transfer it from one body part to another.

I've already talked to my doctor about this years ago. My then BF and I both get cold sores and I wondered if, since we (and 80% of the adult population) both have it whether it was necessary for us to avoid kissing. My doctor is not prude but he said definitely.

I was married for 18 years to a man who had genital herpes and never got it from him. We were always cautious. He did *not* get cold sores and never got them from me.



cankersore is inside the mouth and a form of herpes


According to my dentist, canker sores are not herpes. Also according to the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/canker-sore/DS00354/DSECTION=causes

HSV-1 does not turn into HSV-2 but you can get either one in either place. Actually, you can get it *anywhere* on your body but it favors mucous membranes. One favors lips, the other favors genitalia, but either can occur anywhere. In the eyes, it can cause blindness. I knew a woman who got it on her hip after a fall. I suspect she had oral herpes and touched her mouth and then open skin on her hip. There was a child in a grade school here who got it on his shoulder and the parents freaked out. They were all worried that their children would get herpes, yet no one was alarmed about cold sores on the lips. People just do not get informed, get hysterical.

But definitely practice preventive measures because herpes is forever and it is not fun.
 arwen52
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Posted: 10/18/2010 3:49:40 PM

What I have read has suggested that if you have hsv-1 on your mouth, once you develop the antibodies to it, you can not infect yourself from either your own sores or someone else's on your genitals. now you *can* before you develop the antibodies, like in first 6-8 weeks. But after that, they say no.

Do you have a source for this information? The dermatologist told me that there can be different strains and so someone else may have a different strain of the same virus. Also, he said that getting exposed can activate your own. I don't know if he knew what he was talking about but that's what he told me. Personally, I'd rather be cautious.

As for the "equilibrium," whatever that means - some people have natural immunities to certain viruses.
 jojoaus
Joined: 10/28/2007
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Posted: 5/18/2011 11:32:26 PM
I have had cold sores since childhood. They have decreased hugely in frequency and ferocity since the advent of acyclovir (Zovirax) and I was surprised to read another poster who said the cream had no effect. I am most likely to get them inside my nose in recent years (ouchhhhhhhhhhhhh ) but at least they can't be seen. I also went through a phase of getting them on the skin between nose and mouth- not the moist environment the virus prefers. Mt daughter spent 10 years being treated for ocular herpes- it is the second most common cause of blindness after trauma (not including degenerative diseases). She once had an outbreak that covered 60% of her face poor thing... try looking like that aged 11.

I avoid any kind of oral contact when I have a sore or can feel one coming on. My current partner has never had a breakout and I would not dream of sharing that particular joy....
 harrytee
Joined: 11/9/2012
Msg: 26
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Posted: 1/1/2013 6:04:18 PM
there is always a probability..it just will be super slim..thing is that shedding is more active during an oral outbreak..for the most part both people with coldsores cancel out the probability of getting genital hsv1.. however..it isnt the same with hsv2..there r cases of oral hsv2,very rare..extremely.. also, there r people who have both strains of genital herpes..super rare..but again..there is always a chance..just super rare
 harrytee
Joined: 11/9/2012
Msg: 27
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Posted: 1/3/2013 9:54:51 AM
if u both get cold sores passing it genitally is super rare..preetty much cancel each other out
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