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 DJoseph54
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Msg: 451
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lying:
That ^^^ isn't the issue. Disagreement is fine, it's the basis of debate.
A problem arises though when 'disagreement' or opposition are based on misinformation because then one must first overcome ignorance of the facts before you can even begin the debate.


....Who defined the issue?

....Here, let me help you. The left wingers don't like Fox, so they have an agenda that assumes everyone else but they have the ability to discern. That is unfounded of course, but rather condescending of folks that comprise the majority of our uneducated and welfare population.

....In conclusion, there is little to debate when one party to the debate assumes.... just folks wanting to play out being a drama queen.

....You see, in this country, conservatives are typically too busy working, being responsible and paying the taxes for the majority of the left to even eat, to spend hours, days, maybe even months collecting all the BS the other News medias have broadcasted.

....About now, you will want "proof".

....Sorry man, I have work to do....


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 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 452
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Posted: 12/15/2011 7:40:52 PM

And yet you can't come up with a link. Thanks for that fail. Again where did i say fox news is perfect?...

Sorry I overestimated your ability to type "Fox News" into FactChecks search field.

http://www.factcheck.org/archives/search-results/?cx=000672474746801930868%3Aa87hh_euyka&cof=FORID%3A11%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=fox+news
 brian5353
Joined: 6/10/2011
Msg: 453
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Posted: 12/15/2011 8:30:33 PM
Both. Fox news has shown over and over again how misinformed or creative they can be .
 DJoseph54
Joined: 11/16/2011
Msg: 454
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Posted: 12/15/2011 8:46:48 PM

AA offers:
Sorry I overestimated your ability to type "Fox News" into FactChecks search field.


....Now, how would you know so much about Fox News, when your country censors and does not allow Fox to be broadcasted there?

So much for free speech in Canada.... and China, and Russia, and Iran, etc.

....Obviously, nobody overestimated your ability to continue down the path of being a biased bigot that refuses to discern the lies and omissions made by the self coined "liberal media."

....But, I will agree, it is much easier to point out the mistakes of others, than to self police, to be self accountable. They all lie, while some just do it better with omission. Nevertheless, Olbermann had to be a front runner for the biggest dufus of all US media.

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 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 455
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Posted: 12/15/2011 9:05:45 PM

....Now, how would you know so much about Fox News, when your country censors and does not allow Fox to be broadcasted there?

Because I can view it in Canada, dispite what some uninformed people may think.



So much for free speech in Canada.... and China, and Russia, and Iran, etc.

Congradulations on your hyperbole, I hear there is an app for that.



....Obviously, nobody overestimated your ability to continue down the path of being a biased bigot that refuses to discern the lies and omissions made by the self coined "liberal media."

Pot Meet Kettle.
 DJoseph54
Joined: 11/16/2011
Msg: 456
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Posted: 12/15/2011 9:20:04 PM
AA:
Because I can view it in Canada, dispite what some uninformed people may think.


....Congratulations! .... Canada is not yet censoring all of the Internet, or the airwaves that sneak across the border. If they do, just talk to the conservative Chinese folks, as they know how to get around it. ;)

....Bottom line: Canada censors news and refuses to allow Fox to broadcast from within their borders.

....Since we all know what follows Socialism, your country appears to be on course.

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AA:
Pot Meet Kettle.


....Do you understand what a bigot is? Typically, a bigot is informed and refuses to change their mind based on the merits of their character.

....So, maybe I was being too kind, as you are so misinformed, yet have a prejudiced opinion.

....No, we are nothing alike, as I will change if proven by self or others to be wrong.... but not simply because someone says I am wrong


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 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 457
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Posted: 12/15/2011 9:49:47 PM
I'm in Canada.

It's on channel 336 here.

But apparently you know better.
 DJoseph54
Joined: 11/16/2011
Msg: 458
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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:00:47 PM
halftime:
I'm in Canada.

It's on channel 336 here.

But apparently you know better.


Thank you, I try.... as you are getting Fox from a satellite and not broadcasted from within the borders of Canada, as Canada censors same and refuses Fox News to do so. Apparently, and I could be wrong, but as I understand it, Fox News Canada was refused and you obtain a watered down version that is much different than specific others (see below) for Canada.

Meanwhile, BBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC were and are all approved, which is no wonder you folks have a little problem with conservatives. Heck, I am not certain, but I believe that even Al-Jazeera was approved.

The bottom line is that Canada does not want any news station playing specifically with their liberal politics; specifically Fox News.


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 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:14:11 PM
Sorry I overestimated your ability to type "Fox News" into FactChecks search field.


HAHAHA you are kidding right? All that link shows is fact checks on nominees etc.. nothing where it says there is 10 pages worth of fox news reporting lies news. Give me a break your actual ability to find facts is beyond funny.
 lyingcheat
Joined: 9/13/2009
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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:50:57 PM

lyingcheat lol ok two can play this game.
http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/shocking-soros-funded-university-poll-says-fox-news-viewers-most-misinformed-politically/

Yes indeed, two can play this game. Recall that when I posted the first batch of links, of several I've posted so far, you dismissed the 'mediamatters' links (while ignoring or not noticing the rest) for being a 'left wing' source?

Well... the source you citing now, with it's lurid though completely hollow headline, is from a site called RIGHTWING NEWS hahahahaa.

Excuse my mirth. But anyway, using your logic, being so obviously partisan renders it completely useless as a source for anything. So I don't know why you bothered mentioning it really...

I'm glad you did though, because examining it was worthwhile. You imply it counters the idea that FoxNews is an unreliable source of information, and it's own blaring headline certainly implies that, yet it doesn't actually refute or debunk the results of any of the surveys.
The author just rambles on for a while about four of the eighteen funding sources enjoyed by the University of Maryland.
It's true he does supply a link that he says "debunks some of the talking points" (of one of the surveys). But evidently he knows his audience well since the link doesn't lead where he implies it does. That is, it leads to the homepage of a newspaper... ie; there's no 'debunking' to be found.


There is all of your so called links. Oops.

I see what they mean about the effect Fox News has on its audience... You only produced one link, of no real substance, that attempted to besmirch via ad hominems only one of the surveys and you think that dismisses all of the surveys going right back to 2003?
R i g h t . . .


Yes you did and guess who is behind them according to the link above Soros.
The polls were funded by Soros.

Um... no the polls weren't "funded by Soros". The Tides Foundation which is associated with Soros, is one of the eighteen (listed) sources of funding for the research group at the University of Maryland that produced one of the surveys.

Please try to maintain at least a pretence of honesty else the discussion takes on a slightly surreal, somewhat ludicrous tone.


That explains it all.

For you perhaps, but that admission only serves as confirmation for what some of the surveys say about the credulity of habitual Fox viewers rather than being confirmation of any actual explanatory material.

Oh, by the way, here are the links to some of the surveys your friend at RIGHTWING NEWS didn't even mention.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201106220022#5
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/
http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/21/fairleigh_dickinson_publicmind_poll_shows_fox_news_viewers_less_informed_on_major_news_stories.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2009/08/19/4431138-first-thoughts-obamas-good-bad-news
http://woods.stanford.edu/docs/surveys/Global-Warming-Fox-News.pdf
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56872/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf
 DJoseph54
Joined: 11/16/2011
Msg: 461
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Posted: 12/15/2011 11:00:40 PM
lying:
Excuse my mirth. But anyway, using your logic, being so obviously partisan renders it completely useless as a source for anything. So I don't know why you bothered mentioning it really...


....Which is exactly why this ongoing partisan nonsense continues, exactly why this country, or any other country that is internally divided has fallen, or will fall.

....On the bright side, none of you 'foreigners' can vote here, but I do expect all of you have your own political issues right out your own back door.

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 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 462
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Posted: 12/15/2011 11:05:22 PM

Thank you, I try.... as you are getting Fox from a satellite and not broadcasted from within the borders of Canada, as Canada censors same and refuses Fox News to do so.

Um, you do know that Fox News isn't a broadcast network right? It's a cable network - just like al Jazeera (which is on channel 337) and MSNBC (channel 326). You can't just put up rabbit ears and get it even in your country.

We get all of our American channels via cable - including ABC, CBS, NBC etc. And in every case, the shows are the same as you'd see in America - though sometimes the commercials are different.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 12/15/2011 11:17:46 PM
lyingcheat, Oh really sorucing things from media freaking matters makes your source all of a sudden fact and doesn't render your stuff useless? LOL That's really funny. I see where this is going. If it's not left its not right. Hmmmm. The point was the source i quoted from is exactly the type of bias source in terms of media bias that you soruced your info from, i guess you didn't get that. The sites you quoted from and sites below that from media matters that did that poll was funded by Soros. So unless you can provide somewhere anything factual that's an unbiased soruce that claims other wise, then you are doing nothing more then using the same bias outlet as i showed as an example from what i just did.

"The Tides Foundation which is associated with Soros"

Ah ha here we go.....

I didn't need to post more then one just to prove a point. But here is another one.

http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/2010/12/20/soros-funded-university-poll-says-fox-news-viewers-most-misinformed-politically/

Gee and here is a list of a couple more one college University of Maryland in which the WorldPublicOpinion.org, a “project” ran out of there is two more soruces that was apart of this polling mentioned in that list that Sorors funded. so ontop of media matters, WorldPublicOpinion.org the left wing college of University of Maryland, things are adding up about the bias nature in which these polls were soruced out of and who was funding them. Hmmm .....
 lyingcheat
Joined: 9/13/2009
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Posted: 12/15/2011 11:52:08 PM

lyingcheat, Oh really sorucing things from media freaking matters makes your source all of a sudden fact and doesn't render your stuff useless? LOL That's really funny. I see where this is going. If it's not left its not right. Hmmmm. The point was the source i quoted from is exactly the type of bias source in terms of media bias that you soruced your info from, i guess you didn't get that. The sites you quoted from and sites below that from media matters that did that poll was funded by Soros. So unless you can provide somewhere anything factual that's an unbiased soruce that claims other wise, then you are doing nothing more then using the same bias outlet as i showed as an example from what i just did.

"The Tides Foundation which is associated with Soros"

Ah ha here we go.....

I didn't need to post more then one just to prove a point. But here is another one.

http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/2010/12/20/soros-funded-university-poll-says-fox-news-viewers-most-misinformed-politically/

Gee and here is a list of a couple more one college University of Maryland in which the WorldPublicOpinion.org, a “project” ran out of there is two more soruces that was apart of this polling mentioned in that list that Sorors funded. so ontop of media matters, WorldPublicOpinion.org the left wing college of University of Maryland, things are adding up about the bias nature in which these polls were soruced out of and who was funding them. Hmmm .....
(my emphasis)

Once again you are making wild claims with nothing to substantiate them. You've produced a link which is actually just a reprint of the first one... not "another one" at all. Are you even looking at these links?
Since it's the same blog entry, it goes without saying that it debunks nothing and leads to the same non-existent 'debunking' page.

Once again, you ignore completely all the other surveys going back to 2003, as if your one link containing vague ad hominems, produced twice, magically vanquishes all opposition. pfft.

Your posts are becoming increasingly garbled. Is there something wrong with your keyboard?
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 12/16/2011 12:14:22 AM
So the creditable source you got this info from was media matters in which came from WorldPublicOpinion.org in which these polls were est under in which Soros funded. mmmmmmmmm ok.

So you have any other claim stating other wise that Soros didn't fund these polls or that WorldPublicOpinion.org didn't run this project out of University of Maryland? And you said it yourself that The Tides Foundation is associated with Soros. So that makes at least one creditable source that you yourself posted in which Soros has ties to this project.

Once again you ignore that this was funded by Soros.

And you have brought up anything new since you cited media matters where again? Sorry i don't have a left wing keyboard, because I don't see any hot keys to the huffiypost, media matters or MSNBC anywhere on this keyboard. I just see a play, pause, stop and volume up and down keys as my hot keys Sorry.
 lyingcheat
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Posted: 12/16/2011 1:31:42 AM

So the creditable source you got this info from was media matters in which came from WorldPublicOpinion.org in which these polls were est under in which Soros funded. mmmmmmmmm ok.

I thought we'd been over this ^^^ point several times... Though you don't seem to have absorbed it yet, since you're still referring to "these polls". Perhaps you keep forgetting that only two of the 10 or so surveys dating back several years have any connection to WorldPublicOpinion. Only one of which was the survey your recurring link failed to debunk.


So you have any other claim stating other wise that Soros didn't fund these polls or that WorldPublicOpinion.org didn't run this project out of University of Maryland? And you said it yourself that The Tides Foundation is associated with Soros. So that makes at least one creditable source that you yourself posted in which Soros has ties to this project.

Once again you ignore that this was funded by Soros.

hahahahaa Allow me to quote myself, this is from post #517 "Um... no the polls weren't "funded by Soros". The Tides Foundation which is associated with Soros, is one of the eighteen (listed) sources of funding for the research group at the University of Maryland that produced two of the surveys."
That ^^^ isn't me "ignoring" anything. It's me giving you the known facts derived from investigating Soros links to the University of Maryland.
Here is the link to the WorldPublicOpinion page detailing the connection - http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/about.php?nid=&id=#support

But then I then went on to mention these surveys that didn't originate from worldpublicopinion.org, you know, the ones you keep ignoring because you're unable to refute the content of these either in any logical or coherent way? http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/21/fairleigh_dickinson_publicmind_poll_shows_fox_news_viewers_less_informed_on_major_news_stories.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2009/08/19/4431138-first-thoughts-obamas-good-bad-news
http://woods.stanford.edu/docs/surveys/Global-Warming-Fox-News.pdf
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56872/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf


And you have brought up anything new since you cited media matters where again?

Sure, in post #'s 478, 482, 499, and 517. Aren't you paying attention?
And add this post to the list, see just above. But no rational response from you so far, despite my persistence...


Sorry i don't have a left wing keyboard, because I don't see any hot keys to the huffiypost, media matters or MSNBC anywhere on this keyboard. I just see a play, pause, stop and volume up and down keys as my hot keys Sorry

No worries, I can post some instructions on 'How To Copy And Paste A Link' if you think it might help, though I suspect that particular knowledge deficit isn't the main problem.
 DJoseph54
Joined: 11/16/2011
Msg: 467
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:13:07 AM
halftime:

Um, you do know that Fox News isn't a broadcast network right? It's a cable network - just like al Jazeera (which is on channel 337) and MSNBC (channel 326). You can't just put up rabbit ears and get it even in your country.


No, that is not true, as FOX News is broadcasted and yes, absolutely accessible with "rabbit ears" here.

A little further research using the liberal favorite, Wiki, shows that FOX News combined (US and Canada News), unlike ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. for Canada specific news, was eventually allowed if not Canada specific news on most cable networks, except the third largest, Videotron.

But, as you confirmed, no broadcasting over open airwaves within Canada.

Apparently, Liberalism exists in Canada when it is convenient for the "Liberals" in charge.

In 2003, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) rejected a Canadian Cable Telecommunications Association (CCTA) application to bring Fox News to Canada because Fox News U.S. and Global Television were planning to create Fox News Canada, a combination of U.S. and Canadian news. However in 2004, after a Fox U.S. executive said there were no plans to create the combined channel, the CRTC approved an application to bring Fox News to Canada.[79]

Fox News Channel is currently offered by Access Communications, Bell TV, Cogeco, Eastlink, Manitoba Telecom Services, Rogers, SaskTel, Shaw Cable, Shaw Direct and Telus TV. A notable exception is Vidéotron, Canada's third largest cable company, which has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel#Canada
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 468
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Posted: 12/16/2011 5:10:52 AM
For those keeping score at home here is another to add to the pile.

Fox News Accidental replaces Romney's picture with Barrack Obama's Picture

http://www.firstpost.com/topic/person/barack-obama-fox-news-accidently-replaces-romneys-picture-with-barack-ob-video-5ZJWeCMcQTU-298-1.html

Although before you assume, well that was just stupid, you may want to listen to Megan Kelly's explanation to this little slip up.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201112140016




Fox News
Where rich guys employee other rich guys to tell the middle class to blame it all on the poor people.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 469
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:02:35 AM

No, that is not true, as FOX News is broadcasted and yes, absolutely accessible with "rabbit ears" here.

I was so surprised to read this that I actually did a search. According to Wiki and Fox's own website it's a "cable and satellite network." So no, it's not broadcast over the air in either country. It is available on every cable network here except for the French one in Quebec.

But, to reiterate, no broadcasting over open airwaves in America.
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:24:47 AM
lyingcheat lol yeah and you fail to understnad that Sorors funded these polls. Please are you sitting there telling me some unbiased org just diecided to poll fox news viewers only and no other viewership? Give me a break. This is clearly the work of some left sponsered BS, and if you can't see that well it just shows me how close you align yourself to the left.


"The Tides Foundation which is associated with Soros"

LOL that's all you had to say right there.....

All the so called post are still basing it on the same polling subject that was brought up by some left wing outlet in a blog for that matter. No you have yet to still come up with anything new.

Yeah give me an actual link not unbiased to some BS agenda and i may actually copy and paste it and look at it. lol
 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:32:46 AM
The poll clearly didn't just poll Fox viewers. It couldn't have come up with the conclusion that Fox viewers are less informed than anyone else (including those who don't watch or read any news) if they did.

And you're now including Forbes as one of your far left wing websites that you don't trust. It's pretty clear that you have no interest in actually acknowledging facts, you just want to keep shooting messengers.

Carry on.
 lyingcheat
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Posted: 12/16/2011 7:19:24 AM

lyingcheat lol yeah and you fail to understnad that Sorors funded these polls.

Which ones of these did 'Soros fund'?
http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/21/fairleigh_dickinson_publicmind_poll_shows_fox_news_viewers_less_informed_on_major_news_stories.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2009/08/19/4431138-first-thoughts-obamas-good-bad-news
http://woods.stanford.edu/docs/surveys/Global-Warming-Fox-News.pdf
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56872/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf


Yeah give me an actual link not unbiased to some BS agenda and i may actually copy and paste it and look at it.

um... if you don't "copy and paste it and look at it" how can you tell it's "not unbiased to some BS agenda"?
You can detect bias in urls? Like... you can tell who funded it and the political persuasion of the respondents of the survey just by looking at the url? So you know whether it's worth looking at?
R i g h t . . .
 Bladesmith81801
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Posted: 12/16/2011 9:54:40 AM
Cheat, I think we should thank Steel for showing us what the perfect Fox news voter looks like.

And how much mental damage they can do to the unprotected brain.
 musical_turtle
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Posted: 12/16/2011 5:31:30 PM
I don't care for Fox news or CNN.
I watch BBC news =)
 matchlight
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Posted: 12/16/2011 8:41:40 PM
Assume Fox News regularly broadcasts statements which could be proven false as a matter of fact. Beyond a reasonable doubt.

Then what? All I've heard is some vague maundering to the general effect that someone should do something. What, exactly? With all that intellectual firepower and moral superiority leftists are always telling us heartless, inbred, gun-totin' conservative yahoos they have, where are all their proposals for making those neocon fascist haters at Fox do what what's right and true?

Has any of you thought of something as simple as re-education camps, where these McCarthyites could be detained until they'd learned correct, government-approved thoughts? We've already heard that the government can now detain anyone it wants. And if that stupid powdered-wig-era constitution the teabaggers are always bowing to is still in the way, just have The Anointed One do an end run around it. No one's ever been better at it.

And how about those political ads they're going to be broadcasting? You can't just let those Repugnican liars (excuse the redundancy) spout whatever they please. Shouldn't we have some federal uber-diktatariat to decide which of a candidate's claims are true and which are not? And maybe another bureau to decide 'tweeners--claims the first one has classified as partly a matter of fact, and partly a matter of opinion? If the president has power to appoint all those czars on his own, surely he could create a couple "truth bureaus" like this. Ayers, Moore, Fonda, Maher, Olbermann--all sorts of great folks could be found to serve on them.

Please understand that I'm just throwing out a couple suggestions, which I think are eminently reasonable, to try to get the creative juices flowing. As it were. I'm sure someone can think of much stronger measures to deal with this Faux News, this intolerable obstacle to an informed public. And pick off these liars running for president, too. If you can't Cain 'em, cut off their lying ads. No one should let all that constitutional baloney about "freedom of the press" or "freedom of speech" stifle their creative urges. Whatever all of you just *know* is good and right, in your hearts, well, that's how it should be.
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