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 lyingcheat
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Is Fox News Evil or Stupid?Page 21 of 26    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26)

lyingcheat, i know you can't be that navie about this. i mean come on if you can't see the hidden agenda then i can't help you here.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/ausador/irony_meter.gif


But here is something you can chew on...


PolitiFact corrects Jon Stewart

During his interview with Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday, “ Jon Stewart alleged that Fox News viewers were “the most consistently misinformed media viewers.”
PolitiFact looked into the statement and has rated it “False.”

It’s true that there have been a handful of studies in the last few years that have been used by Fox’s critics to argue this point, but not all the studies placed Fox last, and in some cases, viewers of Fox’s “The O’Reilly Factor” ended up being among the better informed groups of viewers.

PolitiFact’s takeaway:
The way Stewart phrased the comment, it’s not enough to show a sliver of evidence that Fox News’ audience is ill-informed. The evidence needs to support the view that the data shows they are "consistently" misinformed -- a term he used not once but three times. It’s simply not true that "every poll" shows that result. So we rate his claim False.

That's ^^^ an issue that's been thrashed out fairly comprehensively, if you want to inform yourself of the facts here's some handy links that address the issue directly -
http://firedoglake.com/2011/06/21/fact-checking-politifact/
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/06/23/252113/jon-stewart-1-politifact-0-fox-news-viewers-most-misinformed/
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-06-22/entertainment/30063224_1_health-care-government-takeover-fox-viewers
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/reliable-sources-buries-the-lead-in-jon-stewart-vs-fox-news-vs-politifact-dustup/
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-how-fox-news-managing-editor-bill-sammon-spun-the-health-care-debate/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/another-leaked-fox-news-memo-this-time-questioning-global-warming/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-sammons-latest-leaked-fox-news-memo-looks-like-campaign-fact-sheet/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102010022
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201106220005
http://mediamatters.org/research/201106220022#4


....every link that you provided me all points to the same study conducted at the University of Maryland.

What an interesting thing to say, particularly in light of the semantic dispute, referred to above, regarding whether FoxNews viewers are misinformed, ill-informed, or simply un-informed, consistently, sometimes, as a matter of policy, or just carelessly.

Because your statement that - "....every link that you provided me all points to the same study conducted at the University of Maryland", is false.

It's a surprising thing to say too, in light of your earlier claim that you can apparently detect bias just by looking at url's, thereby avoiding the inconvenience of actually pasting them into your browser and the tedium of reading them.
But it now turns out, you can't actually detect where they're pointing, let alone the content that might appear thereon.

Here are just three of the links I've previously posted, and where they originate -
Global Warming. In a late 2010 survey, Stanford University’s Jon Krosnick found that “more exposure to Fox News was associated with more rejection of many mainstream scientists’ claims about global warming, with less trust in scientists, and with more belief that ameliorating global warming would hurt the U.S. economy.” Notably, there was a 25 percentage point gap between the most frequent Fox News watchers (60 %) and those who watch no Fox news (85 %) in whether they think global warming is “caused mostly by things people do or about equally by things people do and natural causes.”
http://woods.stanford.edu/docs/surveys/Global-Warming-Fox-News.pdf

Health Care. Earlier this year, the Kaiser Family Foundation released a survey on U.S. misperceptions about health care reform. The survey asked 10 questions, and compared the “high scorers”—those that answered 7 or more correct—based on their media habits. The result was that “higher shares of those who report CNN (35 percent) or MSNBC (39 percent) as their primary news source [got] 7 or more right, compared to those who report mainly watching Fox News (25 percent).”
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf

Ground Zero Mosque. In late 2010, two scholars at the Ohio State University studied public misperceptions about the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque”—and in particular, the prevalence of a series of rumors depicting those seeking to build the mosque as terrorist sympathizers, anti-American, and so on. The result? “People who use Fox News believe more of the rumors we asked about and they believe them more strongly than those who do not.” Respondents reporting a “low reliance” on Fox News believed .9 rumors on average (out of 4), but for those reporting a “high reliance” on Fox News, the number increased to 1.5 out of 4.
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf


So whether saying every link I posted "points to the same study conducted at the University of Maryland" is a case of deliberately spreading misinformation, an example of someone being ill-informed, or simply a demonstration of what happens when someone is either woefully, or carelessly, un-informed is moot.
Because the effect is the same.

It's lies being disseminated masquerading as truth.
 DJoseph54
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Posted: 12/18/2011 7:48:28 PM
halftime:

But, to reiterate, no broadcasting over open airwaves in America.


Once again, Wiki fails, as for a fact, Fox is broadcasted through open airwaves on two local channels over open airwaves. The only thing that has changed for rural folks, was the requirement of a digital converter for those with older TV's, which was free under a Federal program that mandated the changeover from analog to digital.

Maybe you confuse Fox cable, the same as some confuse MSNBC and MSNBC cable.

Nevertheless, Fox is broadcasted over open airwaves in the USA, while Canada censors same. As well, Canada's third largest cable network refuses to carry Fox on cable. Consequently, many in Canada just think the Canadian population has access to information/news, which is actually censored.

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And what is hypocritical, is that if so called Liberals could have their way, they would censor everything that was not in compliance to the far left ideology that pushes more and more towards Marxism/Communism.... because here, that is who they were/are before infiltrating our Democrat party.

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 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 12/18/2011 8:07:03 PM
Oh my goodness.

The Fox network is a different thing than the Fox News network. Fox shows American Idol and the Simpsons. Fox News is a cable network. And no, Fox isn't broadcast over the air here either - anymore than ABC, NBC or CBS is. Just like the CBC isn't broadcast over the air in your country. And finally, the French cable company does carry Fox - but not Fox News Network. Cause it's a French company offering service in Quebec. There's no demand for it.

And as for your closing rant....yeah, you just keep on there buddy. Better go check under the bed again. Those Commies are sneaky.
 Forereels
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Posted: 12/18/2011 9:25:47 PM
So given Bill's demographics, his actual viewership is probably less than Jon's.


Ok, the facts don’t line up with the program so let’s just go with "probably". Bill’s show is an hour long not two, but we can probably ignore that fact.



Chris Matthews

MSNBC's Shaun Hannity.


Christiane Amanpour

Have watched her many years on CNN, she's cool!
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 12/18/2011 9:28:20 PM
lyingcheat why is it everytime you post links it seems that the links vastly consist of left wing blogs or left wing websites? lol

It's false lol ok media matters firedoglake, thinkprogress etc... i mean every report on this is linked to some left wing blog or left wing website. No agenda huh....

it's because they are all pointing to the same university that conducted this and are all either left wing blogs or leftwing websites from everything i've seen from those links Above. Seems to be all agenda base to me.

"It's lies being disseminated masquerading as truth."

I feel the same way. lol

like i said there are shows on fox like O'Reilly that are amongest the highest informed shows on any cable news network. Then you have Hardball with Chris Mathews on MSNBC which is the worst imformed show out of any news network or media papper for that matter conducted by PEW Research. Which is unbiased in its research given the fact that they rated Racheal Maddows show as one of the highest informed news shows with O'Reilly's show in the research. So there is no agenda based anything in regards to their research unlike many of those links you posted that are either left wing blogs or left wing websites.
 matchlight
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Posted: 12/19/2011 12:25:55 AM
And what is hypocritical, is that if so called Liberals could have their way, they would censor everything that was not in compliance to the far left ideology that pushes more and more towards Marxism/Communism.... because here, that is who they were/are before infiltrating our Democrat party.


I think you overstate it, but not by much. "Liberal" is an ironic description. You can see right on this thread the contempt for the First Amendment freedoms of speech and the press these people have. They want to shut up Fox News or anyone else they disagree with. They don't even try to hide this completely undemocratic, un-American urge.

The USSR published English-language magazines as part of its propaganda effort, and I've read some of them. Even though they're from fifty or sixty years ago, the material could have come right out of the Daily Kos, MSNBC, or the mouth of William Ayers. The "liberals" have the most radical leftist president in U.S. history, and still they're not satisfied. And they won't be, until they've destroyed this country which they loathe so much.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 12/19/2011 2:45:36 AM
Oh...The only way to save AmeriKa is to codify propaganda and blatant lying by so-called "official News Stations"? Nobody is trying to shut any pundits up or take away their rights to lie publicly. There is still the problem on the far right of differentiating between actual news, and stuff made up to foment hatred to the point of violence, divisiveness and ignorance, malicious ignorance at that.

Fox "News" is like the uncaring bartender who keeps pouring glasses of poison long after the patron is obviously drunk. They need to assume responsibility for the ensuing "accident" victims.

There is no other news network in the MSM that promotes hate, ignorance, and extremism like Fox does. No other network has a remotely comparable death toll or arson toll. No other network would even consider using Christmas as a tool of war on non-christians.
 lyingcheat
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Posted: 12/19/2011 4:54:30 AM

They want to shut up Fox News or anyone else they disagree with.

It's been pointed out several times that the issue isn't 'disagreement' or otherwise. Disagreement is healthy, it's the basis of debate.
The issue is misinformation, propaganda, and opinion presented as 'News'. The issue is veracity.

But perhaps you can't tell the difference, or make no distinction, between any of those things?

The "liberals" have the most radical leftist president in U.S. history, and still they're not satisfied. And they won't be, until they've destroyed this country which they loathe so much.
No. Apparently not.

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lyingcheat why is it everytime you post links it seems that the links vastly consist of left wing blogs or left wing websites? lol

It's false lol ok media matters firedoglake, thinkprogress etc... i mean every report on this is linked to some left wing blog or left wing website. No agenda huh....

it's because they are all pointing to the same university that conducted this and are all either left wing blogs or leftwing websites from everything i've seen from those links Above. Seems to be all agenda base to me.
(my emphasis)
What on earth are you talking about? You've been going on for pages about, first that there were only two surveys, then that all the links only pointed to the same two surveys, then that all the links pointed to the University of Maryland.

As each claim has been exposed as false you've modified it slightly.

Now you're still saying they're all "pointing to the same university" but with the alternate "left wing blogs or left wing websites" dismissal added.

These are some of the sources you dismiss as being either the University of Maryland in disguise or "left wing blogs or left wing websites" -
Stanford University
Kaiser Family Foundation
Ohio State University
Forbes
Fairleigh Dickinson University
NBC News and the Wall Street Journal


Fox News Viewers Uninformed
A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed.
People were asked questions about news habits and current events in a statewide poll of 600 New Jersey residents recently. Results showed that viewers of Sunday morning news shows were the most informed about current events, while Fox News viewers were the least informed. In fact, FDU poll results showed they were even less informed than those who say they don’t watch any news at all.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/

Global Warming. In a late 2010 survey, Stanford University’s Jon Krosnick found that “more exposure to Fox News was associated with more rejection of many mainstream scientists’ claims about global warming, with less trust in scientists, and with more belief that ameliorating global warming would hurt the U.S. economy.” Notably, there was a 25 percentage point gap between the most frequent Fox News watchers (60 %) and those who watch no Fox news (85 %) in whether they think global warming is “caused mostly by things people do or about equally by things people do and natural causes.”
http://woods.stanford.edu/docs/surveys/Global-Warming-Fox-News.pdf

Health Care. Earlier this year, the Kaiser Family Foundation released a survey on U.S. misperceptions about health care reform. The survey asked 10 questions, and compared the “high scorers”—those that answered 7 or more correct—based on their media habits. The result was that “higher shares of those who report CNN (35 percent) or MSNBC (39 percent) as their primary news source [got] 7 or more right, compared to those who report mainly watching Fox News (25 percent).”
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf

Ground Zero Mosque. In late 2010, two scholars at the Ohio State University studied public misperceptions about the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque”—and in particular, the prevalence of a series of rumors depicting those seeking to build the mosque as terrorist sympathizers, anti-American, and so on. The result? “People who use Fox News believe more of the rumors we asked about and they believe them more strongly than those who do not.” Respondents reporting a “low reliance” on Fox News believed .9 rumors on average (out of 4), but for those reporting a “high reliance” on Fox News, the number increased to 1.5 out of 4.
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf.

Last night, NBC News and the Wall Street Journal released a poll showing that “all the misinformation out there” about health care reform proposals in Congress is taking root with many Americans. For instance, 45 percent believe the false claim that legislation includes “death panels” while 55 percent believe the false claim that coverage will be extended to illegal immigrants.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56872/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/


Some issues are debatable, some not so much, and some not at all...
Your continued denials and lame attempts to dismiss a variety of sources, including four different universities, as all being either "left wing blogs or left wing websites", or a single university pretending to be four different ones just shreds your own credibility and casts doubt on your ability to absorb even simple information.
While having no effect on the facts.
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 12/19/2011 5:08:31 AM
They want to shut up Fox News or anyone else they disagree with.


Where oh where is that commie in the closet.

Interestingly enough, I've only read ALL 23 pages of this thread and never once read anyone state that FOX should be shuttered or muffled...the only thing I've read is that the mis-statements, un-truths, outright lies that FOX portrays as real, informative, and balanced news be exposed for what it really is...entertainment and not real news.

But, like the commie in the closet, the paraniod right-nut-wingers wishes to portray anyone who doesn't think FOX is a "real" news station...one that follows true journalistic ethics...is trying to shut the dayum thing down....these people are happy to be part of the mis-informed masses...fortunately, here in America, one has the right to be lied to, mis-represented, and decieved....all in the name of "balanced" "news"

What ever happened to Dan Rather???
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 12/19/2011 5:47:37 AM
Faux and Fiends win this years' BS awards...again. Misinformers extraordinaire.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201112160003?frontpage

Speaking of BS, take a break from the War on Christmas and rent the film, "The Smell of Success" with Tea Leoni and Billy Bob Thornton. It's all about BS and peddling sh*tand that special relationship that snake oil salesmen have with that pesky thing called truth. Pretty hilarious, creatively filmed, and more truth in this farce than any similar amount of time wasted watching Faux.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6CKKWXDldQ
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 12/19/2011 7:46:13 AM
lyingcheat, so who are you trying to convince here me or yourself. You keep going on and on about the same links and yes and why are all those links that you continue to show either point to the same findings of a left wing org that started this or posting the vast majority of those links you mentioned that are displaying this. I know why because there is an agenda behind it against FNC. I mean come on. This whole thing started with ties to Soros. The funny thing is i think it's pretty lame on your part to actually believe a poll conducted as if this is some sort of fact. Anyone can ask a few random people about things, but to use that as you basis as if everyone is out of the millions and millions of people that watch it are some how linked to those 100 people or whatever they conducted doing this poll is truly funny.
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 12/19/2011 8:30:21 AM
"A poll conducted by WorldPublicOpinion.org, a “project” run out of the University of Maryland, was the toast of the left-wingers last week for its finding that Fox News viewers were the most “misinformed” during the 2010 election cycle. This poll mentioned that WorldPublicOpinion.org is funded in part by such far left-wing organizations as the Ben and Jerry’s Foundation, the Ploughshares Fund, the United States Institute of Peace, and the George Soros-backed Tides Foundation."

http://justpiper.com/2011/06/soros-funded-university-poll-says-fox-news-viewers-most-%E2%80%98misinformed-politically/


And look at all of those left wing groups that funded this project. Gee no agenda there, funny this took place during the election cycle of 2010.

And...

A poll conducted by WorldPublicOpinion.org, a “project” run out of the University of Maryland, was the toast of the left-wingers last week for its finding that Fox News viewers were the most “misinformed” during the 2010 election cycle. Sadly, few of the news pieces on this poll mentioned that WorldPublicOpinion.org is funded in part by such far left-wing organizations as the Ben and Jerry’s Foundation, the Ploughshares Fund, the United States Institute of Peace, and the George Soros-backed Tides Foundation.



The report was big news throughout the lefty blogs and the Old Media, as well. Longtime Internet lefty site Slate blurbed the report assuming the fact that Fox fans are misinformed was obvious. The New York Times’ Brian Stelter reported the poll but didn’t bother to try and size up the source, reporting it as straight news. Extreme leftist columnist Dick Polman of the Philadelphia Inquirer also treated the claim as fact. Associated Content did as well.

Even our “friends” to the north accepted the report as fact. Canada’s Globe and Mail accepted the all-Fox-fans-are-dumb meme as gospel truth and so did the Toronto Star.



One Mainstream Media columnist took quite a bit of time, though, to debunk some of the talking points — talking points that were themselves “misinformed.” The Baltimore Sun’s David Zurawik wrote quite an extensive piece informing his readers that the all-Fox-fans-are-dumb meme was not quite as axiomatic as the left-wingers were trying to make us all believe.

Still, even Zurawick didn’t report that the poll itself was commissioned and paid for by George Soros-backed organizations as can be clearly seen on the WorldPublicOpinion.org website.

Fox News did have an amusing retort to this skewed poll.


Asked for comment on the study, Fox News seemingly dismissed the findings. In a statement, Michael Clemente, who is the senior vice president of news editorial for the network, said: “The latest Princeton Review ranked the University of Maryland among the top schools for having ‘Students Who Study The Least’ and being the ‘Best Party School’ – given these fine academic distinctions, we’ll regard the study with the same level of veracity it was ‘researched’ with.”

It was a pretty amusing point. Can we trust the word of a notorious “party school”? But, again, even that quip, as amusing as it is, doesn’t address the fact that a bunch of far, far left-wing NGOs paid for a study that shows conservatives are “misinformed.”

Should we be surprised that George Soros happily funded a study that said conservatives are idiots? And shouldn’t we be informed about his backing of this poll so that we can be informed about the poll’s ideological bias?

Of course we should. Unfortunately, the media didn’t do its due diligence and track these facts down.

http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/2010/12/20/soros-funded-university-poll-says-fox-news-viewers-most-misinformed-politically/
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 12/19/2011 8:46:32 AM
The Top 10 Fox News FAILs of 2011

A list of the biggest, most epic Fox News FAILs of the past year. While even Fox admits that most of their shows are not actually "news", viewers still expect them to get their facts straight. Unfortunately for the network (and the IQs of those who watch), this does not always happen. Perhaps this is why polls indicate that FNC fans know less about the news than people who watch no news at all? Just throwing it out there...


Link to all the videos can be found at:

http://www.ranker.com/list/the-top-10-fox-news-fails-of-2011/melody-yan?limit=25&format=BLOG


1. 2011 Study Finds Fox News Actually Makes People Dumber
Perhaps the biggest Fox FAIL of all is not any particular botched story or silly blooper, but the fact that the network is actually making America more ignorant.

A 2011 poll conducted by Fairleigh****nson University demonstrated that Fox viewers were more ignorant about current events in the Middle East than the rest of the population. They were less likely to know that the Egyptian government was overthrown, and that the Syrian government was not, among other issues.

Sadly, this is not the first study to reveal the dumbing-down of Fox watchers. Another from the University of Maryland also found viewers of the channel to be more confused about political facts.



2. Fox Announces Death of President Obama...Twice
On May 1, 2011, overzealous (and wishfully thinking?) Fox news reporter Will Thomas in Washington DC erroneously proclaimed that President Barack Obama had died -- when it was really Osama bin Laden who had died. Obama, Osama, similar enough, that'd understandable in what was probably a stressful news day, but to go ahead and say the full name Barack Obama is a little much.

The snafu occurred just following the U.S action against the terrorist leader in Pakistan. Thomas was summarizing the president's announcement of the events when the reporter inadvertently claimed that Obama was proclaiming his own demise.

Thomas quickly caught and retracted his error, but the name-switch had already caught the attention of viewers around the nation. Hard to say if the mix-up had anything to do with the network's political views or not, but mistaking our nation's leader for the head of Al-Qaeda is a FAIL of epic proportions.

As if that were not enough, Fox host Geraldo Rivera made the same mistake on a different show, announcing Obama's death and then quickly catching himself.



3. Bill O'Reilly Calls Elementary School Science a Mystery
When Bill O'Reilly recently spoke with David Silverman, the man who calls himself the President of American Atheists, he made one of the biggest gaffes he's ever spoken, and it caused so much ridicule that an entire internet meme came out of it.

O'Reilly: "I'll tell you why [religion is] not a scam, in my opinion," he told Silverman. "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that. You can't explain why the tide goes in."

Putting hundreds (thousands?) of years of work from astronomers, oceanographers, and scientists to shame, O'Reilly throws his insight into the mix, claiming the existence of God to be proven through the inexplicable nature of the tides of the ocean.

During this interview with Dave Silverman, head of the American Atheist group, O'Reilly managed to simplify the existence of God by surmising, "tide goes in, tide goes out, never a miscommunication" in a calm, Zen-master like fashion; strengthening the credibility of his argument by shedding light on Silverman's inability to explain this remarkable phenomenon that everyone learned in grade school along with the concept of "gravity."

So then, the internet got in on the joke and did something similar to what they did to Megan Kelly in the meme. Made him make logically similar arguments about much more inane facts.



4. Fox Takes on Spongebob Squarepants
In a case of Big Bad Media Corporation vs. Cute and Harmless Cartoon Character, the honchos at Fox appeared a touch foolish when they decided to take on a little yellow sponge who lives in a pineapple under the sea.

Blasting Spongebob Squarepants for pushing the "global warming agenda" on behalf of the Nickelodeon network, the hosts also denounced the Department of Education for handing out the Spongebob Goes Green! book to kids. According to the anchors, when Spongebob addresses climate change he is only "looking at it from one point of view."

The hosts go on to shred poor Spongebob, wondering why children find him appealing and calling his show "hard to follow." Well... maybe for them.



5. Fox Mistakes Tina Fey for Sarah Palin
Tina Fey may be famous for her dead-on impersonation of politician-turned-Fox-correspondent Sarah Palin, but one would expect her own network to know the difference.

Her own network.

Not so. Fox used a picture of Fey posing as the ex-governor instead of the real deal during a report about the possibility of Palin running for the 2012 presidential bid.

The report, "Tracking the Movements of Some 2012 Contenders," featured a photo of Fey at a podium above the caption "Fmr Gov Sarah Palin 50/50 on 2012 Run." Fortunately for the nation, neither Palin nor her comedic doppelganger will appear on the 2012 ballot.



6. Fox's Megyn Kelly Calls Pepper Spray a "Food Product"
Defending the now-infamous spraying of University of California Davis students by a police officer in a November, 2011 protest, Fox News host Megyn Kelly inaccurately described pepper spray as a "food product, essentially."

This led to her getting an insane amount of television, podcast, radio and internet ridicule. She even got her own internet meme, attributing false, but similarly insensitive and ridiculous quotes to her such as:



7. Sarah Palin Claims Paul Revere Warned the British
When Sarah Palin spoke to Boston residents as part of her national tour, she was confronted with a question about American patriot Paul Revere. Clearly confused, Ms. Palin blurted out that the hero "warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms."

While wisdom may have dictated that the error was best left alone, the former presidential candidate could not let this one lay.

Palin went on to Fox News and declared that yes, in addition to warning the Colonists with those famous words, "The British are Coming! The British are Coming!" Paul Revere had also gone around to the British folk who were already here to warn them that their efforts would be futile.



8. Fox News Randomly Announces a War on Salt
Fox and Friends slammed the FDA for conducting an investigation on the dangers of a high-sodium diet, accusing them of declaring a war on salt. The anchors expressed fears that the government would now begin campaigning against salt-laden foods as they have previously done with cigarettes.

To back up their attack on the government agency, the gang at Fox hailed the virtues of the substance, citing a new study showing people who eat less salt actually have shorter life spans. "The science is not settled, and yet, the government has a bee in their bonnet. They want us to stop eating so much salt and sugar and stuff like that" proclaimed host Steve Doocy.

Despite the anchors' outrage, medical experts agree that most Americans actually eat twice as much salt as they should, leading to stroke and heart disease.

Once gain, putting Fox News vs. Science in a ring where really, due to Fox's popularity, nobody wins.



9. Fox Runs Wrong Footage of Ron Paul Win
When presidential nominee Ron Paul gave an interview to Bill Hemmer on Fox News after Paul won the 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) straw poll, he was probably expecting a congratulatory occasion. When the show opened with a crowd booing at the announcement that Paul had won, he and viewers may have scratched their heads.

To rub it in, the host commented that the hisses were "probably not the reaction he was hoping for "

Turns out, the footage was actually from the 2010 straw poll announcement. Paul had also won that year. However, at the 2011 event the crowd cheered riotously for the candidate rather than hectoring him.

This was a "mistake" that once again led to Fox News almost deliberately skewing American information, and therefore opinion, towards their agenda and less towards "facts".

Hemmer later apologized, calling the incident an "honest mistake."



10. Fox Mistakes Japanese Nightclub for Nuclear Power Plant
Fox news is no stranger to map gaffes. Quite the contrary, botched geography is an annual occurrence (and at this point, even a tradition) for the location-challenged network.

In 2009, Fox placed replaced Egypt with Syria. In 2010, they put Sydney on the wrong side of Australia. And then true to form, in 2011 Fox managed to mistake a nightclub for a nuclear power plant on their map of Japan.

During the Japanese meltdown scare, the network displayed a chart mapping all of the nuclear power plants in the country. However, one was labelled "Shibuyaeggman," which was mysteriously absent from any other official records. Investigations turned up the truth--Shibuyaeggman is a popular night spot. It may get hot during the late hours, but it's probably safe to say that the club is safe from a nuclear explosion.
 lyingcheat
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Posted: 12/19/2011 8:57:46 AM

lyingcheat, so who are you trying to convince here me or yourself.

Neither really, I already know the facts and you are obviously impervious to rational input. So pointing out your continuous attempts at disinformation is more for the benefit of anyone reading that might be interested in balance.
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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:03:34 AM
Irregulator, the sites you cited once againt proved my point about the left wing funding on this poll that was conducted. lol

The calvertfoundation.org? left wing org

www.rbf.org? Another left wing org.

worldpublicopinion.org? Gee and that too is another left wing org.

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lyincheat, biased leftwing org that have an agenda doesn't equal fact.
 lyingcheat
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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:13:57 AM

lyincheat, biased leftwing org that have an agenda doesn't equal fact.

These aren't 'left wing blogs'.

Stanford University
Kaiser Family Foundation
Ohio State University
Forbes
Fairleigh Dickinson University
NBC News and the Wall Street Journal

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
http://woods.stanford.edu/docs/surveys/Global-Warming-Fox-News.pdf
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56872/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/
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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:27:43 AM
Doing a quick google search just to confrim what i thought was true aboiut those links

fairleigh****nson university liberal college
Stanford University liberial college
Kaiser Family Foundation liberal college
NBC is a liberal network
Wall Street Journal liberal news paper.
Thinkprogress liberal

As for forbs it was actually reporting the invalidness of these polls.

“Ideological media does a very poor job overall,” Cassino told Forbes. “They don’t challenge people’s assumptions. In traditional news, you will find that more often than not, there actually is a correct answer and there is no gray area. People who tune into ideological media are motivated to hear their side of the debate and so you can have someone who watches MSNBC be so used to hearing about protests coming from the right that they automatically believe that Occupy is mostly a Republican protest.”
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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:33:14 AM
irregulator, ok here we go in regards to the RBF.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2007/07/01/unbiased-advisory-group-exposed


So funding a left wing project is moot? Wow now i know how hevily biased you are. Soruce funding is the very reason behind the attack on fox news to begin with because they are right wing and all major player fundings are coming from gee lets see left wing org.

so this poll conducted is a fact? if anything is a red herring its a poll.
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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:38:30 AM
"Let's see your evidence that David Rockefeller (a lifelong Republican) is a left-winger, or even in any way politically biased towards "the left"."

Are you kidding? All bankers love communists because they always collect their debts LOL Thats is what USA is on the way to sooner or later.

THE HISTORY OF MONEY
http://www.xat.org/xat/worldbank.html
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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:41:52 AM
Irregulator Ah yes the ol pluggin your ears syndrome again. Yep none of those places are left wing or heavily left wing. Riiight.. I mean it's not that hard to do a little bit of google searching to find out about these places themselves, but then again if it's not left its not right huh. lol

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Posted: 12/19/2011 9:46:31 AM

lying:

These aren't 'left wing blogs'.


Hint: Anything that has "University" is almost always left wing here and especially Stanford. As far as Forbes, it was a link to to liberal New Jersey university, that was itself misinformed about it's main question concerning Egypt.... Mubarak was not overthrown by "just" Egyptians and in fact, did not stand a remote chance of success without NATO, AFRICOM, and the initial push by same.

As far as the .pdf from kff.org, there is absolutely no mention of Fox.



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Posted: 12/19/2011 10:17:57 AM

As for forbs it was actually reporting the invalidness of these polls.

No it wasn't.
The clue is in the fact that they don't discuss the 'polls' at all other than referring to the fact, necessarily since their story is based on it, that Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey conducted a 'poll'.

These are the opening and closing sentences of the piece -

A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed.
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On international news, Fox viewers were by far the least likely to know that the Egyptian protests led to the resignation of Hosni Mubarek, followed by MSNBC in a distant second for least informed.


Here is the link to the actual results.
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/


Soruce funding is the very reason behind the attack on fox news to begin with because they are right wing and all these funds are coming from gee lets see left wing org.
/snip/
Ah yes the ol pluggin your ears syndrome again. Yep none of those places are left wing or heavily left wing. Riiight. Of course keep defending your left wing side i don't expect anything diff.

One of the many details you overlook is that these surveys aren't opinion pieces, and they aren't authored by someone with an agenda. The results spring from the answers given by the respondents - who come from a variety of backgrounds, of various ages, split between the genders, and of differing political persuasion.

Which is presumably why you avoid mentioning the results of the various surveys referred to in this thread, but rather put all your energy into pretending, completely ludicrously, that Stanford University, the Kaiser Family Foundation, Ohio State University, Forbes, Fairleigh Dickinson University, NBC News, the Wall Street Journal, and the University of Maryland are all really fronts for George Soros.

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As far as the .pdf from kff.org, there is absolutely no mention of Fox.

Fail.
About halfway through the document, in the section titled 'High Scorers'. Note the chart, particularly the section labeled - 'Source Of Information'.
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
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Posted: 12/19/2011 10:24:02 AM
Match:
I think you overstate it, but not by much. "Liberal" is an ironic description.


Absolutely! .... but changing same for the self coined anointment by members of the middle to far left Democrat party appears to be a daunting task.

It is simply a well known fact by the informed, that all Socialists, Communists, Marxists (even the Green party) infiltrated the Democrat party as the path of least resistance and now vote Democrat.

Thus, has evolved an increasing number of swing voters that today, decide most national elections.

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Big:
Where oh where is that commie in the closet.

Interestingly enough, I've only read ALL 23 pages of this thread and never once read anyone state that FOX should be shuttered or muffled...the only thing I've read is that the mis-statements, un-truths, outright lies that FOX portrays as real, informative, and balanced news be exposed for what it really is...entertainment and not real news.


May I suggest that you read it all again... two or three more times.

Or, you could take your own poll just in these forums and how many would you conclude would vote to have Fox removed from existence? And how many of those yes votes would you conclude are on the left?

Note: Canada already censors Fox by disallowing public broadcast, while their 3rd largest cable network to the masses refuses to carry Fox.


But, like the commie in the closet, the paraniod right-nut-wingers wishes to portray anyone who doesn't think FOX is a "real" news station...one that follows true journalistic ethics...is trying to shut the dayum thing down....these people are happy to be part of the mis-informed masses...fortunately, here in America, one has the right to be lied to, mis-represented, and decieved....all in the name of "balanced" "news"


"Commie in the closet" is absolute BS, as they are absolutely "out and about" as the voice in the far left of the Democrat party. The working man, which founded the strength of the Democrat party in the early 1900's and for the next 70 years or so, is now forced to be a swing voter for the lesser of two evils and now, can be found quite often participating with the Tea Party as an alternative to the two party lock.

As far as the misinformed, those that are uneducated consumers of perpetual Welfare all vote Democrat. Hell, do you think 97% of the black vote for Obama were all politically informed? Or, we don't have to look any further than yourself.... after all, you did read both of Obama's books before voting for him?

That was a rhetorical question.

Hint: They all lie to an extent, but lying by omission has to be the most difficult to discern without an awareness of the world. Those that participate with a closed, biased mind are actually prejudiced by ignorance and largely comprise the "misinformed".



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Posted: 12/19/2011 10:25:33 AM
Irregulator, "SourceWatch (formerly Disinfopedia) is an internet wiki site that is a collaborative project of the liberal Center for Media and Democracy"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceWatch

And a swing and a miss.

So that's a no then on both the 2nd and 3rd and 4th quote. Thanks..

Nope no cherry picking here i'm just responding to the links so far that has been displayedin which are geared at left wing places or left wing org that are big players in this fund that conducted this poll.

So it's improper an argument that shows the buig time players conducting this poll that funded it were left wing? Yeah ok. That is a legit argument based on not only the history of these org but by the left wing people like soros that funds projects like these.



lyingcheat, you're right my mistake on the forbs link.
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Posted: 12/19/2011 10:36:20 AM
Irregular:

How is this a critique of methodology, thus the validity of the poll?


Guessing you missed "statistics and analysis" with your Wiki education.

PS: Maybe try some Metamucil for that "irregularity".


"Liberal" …"left wing"?

How? And, by what definition, by whose definition?


That we can agree on, as the only thing liberal about the self coined Liberals is being liberal with and from the productive to their pockets.

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