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 az109
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Mark Twain was a comedian. He was a Humorist, the kind of comedian that thinks. Thinking correctly leads to being either a Humorist, a Satirist or a Curmudgeon, which all will progress in due course to being the ultimate; A Fool. The circle of life is then complete.
 themadfiddler
Joined: 12/9/2009
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Posted: 9/22/2010 8:38:47 AM




As for Stewart and Colbert, ...they are modern Mark Twains, they aren't journalists,

No , actually, they are COMEDIANS , and after having watched "stewart" for the last few days , i'd dare say disgrunteled comedians,
Seems Mr.Stewart is beginning to see the light , and becoming disenchanted with Mr Obama.
pretty bad , when you're not wanted on "the island of misfits" ...


Like Clemens, these "comedians" are satirists and lampooners of public figures and the comparison to Samuel Clemens, especially in the case of Stewart who is also a now multiple time author and still young is becoming quite apt.

There is nothing "disgruntled" about Stewart...unless you simply "don't get it.

And seriously... how do you keep all of those various aliases straight?
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Posted: 10/11/2010 12:25:22 PM
Still evil..
http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

"I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind." - Byron Williams



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Byron Williams, a 45-year-old ex-felon, exploded onto the national stage in the early morning hours of July 18.

According to a police investigation, Williams opened fire on California Highway Patrol officers who had stopped him on an Oakland freeway for driving erratically. For 12 frantic minutes, Williams traded shots with the police, employing three firearms and a small arsenal of ammunition, including armor-piercing rounds fired from a .308-caliber rifle.
 duckpie
Joined: 9/27/2010
Msg: 79
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Posted: 10/11/2010 4:46:38 PM

"I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind." - Byron Williams

Byron Williams, a 45-year-old ex-felon, exploded onto the national stage in the early morning hours of July 18.... Williams opened fire on California Highway Patrol officers who had stopped him on an Oakland freeway for driving erratically.



Are you trying to say that was Glenn Beck's/Fox news' fault?

Does that mean the blame for the Heaven's Gate cult is with extra terrestrials?
So if/when they do show up we should just kill them all on principle?
Arrest them?
Hide their arrival?
Or maybe start up a space military program to hunt them down and stop their stupid evil?
Or fire some missiles at Halle-Bopp the stupid evil comet?
Or maybe blame shows like the X-Files and have all sci fi UFO based t.v. shows censored?
Maybe that is a good thing, it would hurt the National Enquirer.
 late™
Joined: 2/1/2010
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Posted: 10/11/2010 8:09:39 PM

Are you trying to say that was Glenn Beck's/Fox news' fault?


Actually, ...are you trying to say....?

What are you trying to say?

Specifically?

Were does the analogy kick in? The aliens paid Heaven's Gate to spread their news?


 Ready4SomethingFun
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Posted: 10/11/2010 8:50:12 PM
I think the analogy fits if you look at the Islamophobia thread and this one. The same guy saying "don't blame the tree for the 20% or so bad apples" on the other thread is trying to the blame the tree for one bad apple on this one.

I wouldn't have such a problem with liberal ideology if there wasn't such a warped double standard that came with it.
 late™
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Posted: 10/11/2010 9:00:35 PM

I wouldn't have such a problem with liberal ideology if there wasn't such a warped double standard that came with it.


Okay! ....let's see it.

Do you have anything that isn't an obvious false analogy?

(Why didn't you table it?)
 late™
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Posted: 10/11/2010 9:09:44 PM
Okay, I'll help;

Who is funding the right-wing?

Well, we really don't know do we, because they didn't want that fact to be made public, ....but.

(let's start there, shall we?)

How bout the Koch Bros?

Are they your buddies?
 Ready4SomethingFun
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Posted: 10/11/2010 10:45:57 PM

Do you have anything that isn't an obvious false analogy?


Just because it doesn't fit your definition doesn't make it a false analogy. I stated what I stated because it is true. Anyone with eyes can see it if they deon't choose to wear the rose colored reality warping glasses some here seem to.



Who is funding the right-wing?


Oh, the famous smoke screen, I see.........we're getting into an area libs don't want to go so let's change the subject and start finger pointing about something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Like when the wife or girlfriend brings up something you did 3 years ago because she's backed in a corner over something she has no logical answer for now.



Well, we really don't know do we, because they didn't want that fact to be made public, ....but.


It's getting rather hard to see in this thread, cough cough.........



(let's start there, shall we?)


Why don't we start where the accusation was made, why is one evil and stupid and one not evil and stupid. Answer that.



How bout the Koch Bros?


How about George Soros?



Are they your buddies?


Is Soros yours? Yeah, actually, the Koch Bros. and I go hang at the titty bars on certain Saturdays when they can't come up with any evil plots to rape the earth of it's natural resources. Does this have ANYTHING to do with the topic at hand? You nor anyone can prove Fox news is evil or stupid anymore than I can prove it isn't. The only reason dems care so much about Fox news is because they have many times the viewers their bunch of whining crybaby pundits can muster and it gets their panties in a wad because they are afraid some of those they've brainwashed to believe their ideological nonsense might start believing Fox's idoelogical nonsense instead.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 10/11/2010 10:59:07 PM
" "I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind." - Byron Williams

Byron Williams, a 45-year-old ex-felon, exploded onto the national stage in the early morning hours of July 18.... Williams opened fire on California Highway Patrol officers who had stopped him on an Oakland freeway for driving erratically.
"Are you trying to say that was Glenn Beck's/Fox news' fault? "

The shooter said Fox/Beck inspired him from their lies and conspiracy theories, just like Adkisson acknowleged these far right pundits inspired him to murder Unitarians in Knoxville, Poplawski, the cop killer was inspired, and is a growing army of armed, deluded, paranoid, propagandized, tin foil listenership of Faux News. These are the fruits and nuts of Fox's labor to profit from fear mongering. Fox is marketing and mainstreaming mental illness. It's viewers who cannot recognize it, are already infected.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/21185
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 10/12/2010 8:16:11 AM

You nor anyone can prove Fox news is evil or stupid anymore than I can prove it isn't.


How about something simple, something anyone rational can see right in front of their eyes ?

Ronald Reagan added 3.73 trillion dollars to the national debt.
George H.W. Bush added 1.74 trillion more.
His son added another 3.75 trillion.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

Total 9.2 trillion.

That's twenty budgets in all, negative results in every single case.

Coincidence ?

In good economic times, for the most part, making those negative numbers even more shocking.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twenty straight times, shame on me. Voodoo economics, indeed.

And media organizations like FOX are still promoting lowering taxes, and shocked and awed over the current budget deficit.

That first 9.2 trillion was created by good old conservatives (who apparently weren't great at conserving) and indeed by the " Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" of this modern Republican era.
 Ready4SomethingFun
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Posted: 10/12/2010 2:35:41 PM
Well Monty problem is, the budgets are controlled by Congress, so while looking at your website, I found this little tasty nugget linked to it.




National Debt by Congress and Political Party
About.com and Zfacts.com | 8/28/2009 | Myself

Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:06:24 PM by adamjeeps

I have always wanted to do this so I figured I would put together a little project.

Since 1980, the national debt has for the most part risen under a Democrat controlled Congress and fallen under a Republican controlled Congress. I have heard the argument from the libs about Reagan and Bush hiking the national debt and Clinton reducing the debt, but who is in control over making the budgets......


Oh and the numbers are there, too, right from the zfacts site.


Now, does this prove (or disprove) Fox news is evil and stupid? No. Does the fact that Obama has outspent all of them do it either? No, but it sure is fun to repeat over and over because it makes it much more likely he will be a one-termer. Hell, I may start believing in God again if it happens.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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Posted: 10/12/2010 5:28:05 PM
Actually, the Executive Branch submits the budget for approval. Congress then makes small changes, but you can't hail Reagan for lowering taxes and still claim that a Democratic Congress is responsible for the fallout of those tax cuts.
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
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Posted: 10/12/2010 6:27:14 PM

Now, does this prove (or disprove) Fox news is evil and stupid? No. Does the fact that Obama has outspent all of them do it either? No, but it sure is fun to repeat over and over because it makes it much more likely he will be a one-termer. Hell, I may start believing in God again if it happens.

Nor it is even accurate.

Increase debt/GDP (in percentage points)
Nixon/Ford R +0.2%
Jimmy Carter D -3.3%
Ronald Reagan R +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R +9.3%
George H. W. Bush R +15.0%
Bill Clinton D -0.7%
Bill Clinton D -9.0%
George W. Bush R +7.1%
George W. Bush R +20.0%

Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/



I think it is pretty clear that Fox has demonstrated on more than one occasion things that would be considered Evil and / or Stupid, so I would say unless you can refute all the evidence put forth that there is nothing to disprove as it as been proven.

Like anything, perspective is everything, and with the US cable news organizations they are pretty much considered a joke by the rest of the world as they take propaganda to a whole new level.

When a news organization is hauled into court and uses the "we do not have an obligation to tell the truth" defense and is successful with it, does that not make everyone question everything?

Then they repeatedly lie, manipulate and use creative editing technique (many examples posted in the thread) and people still believe their crap. It is like the viewers are battered wives but they won't leave their husbands. The rest of the world knows he is a****but she is somehow blind to that. So if you still think that Cable news is good for you then keep a bag of frozen pees near by, because you are going to need it.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 10/12/2010 6:50:15 PM
Please..don't confuse Fox Viewers with facts. It only pisses them off, incites them to violence and irrationality, and somehow re-enforces their need to succumb to violence.

Well over $3 Trillion bucks of the last Bush deficet will be used to try to put troops back together again, and another trillion or so will be spent for hardware replacement because the lil Bush had to show his daddy that he was kinda manly after being a coke-head chickenhawk. The worst case-scenario of a chickenhawk bankrupting a nation out of insecurity issues. The soviets are laughing at the irony.
 Ready4SomethingFun
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Posted: 10/13/2010 4:41:56 AM
Oh please. There are many more examples of lib violence and irrationality in this nation than republicans could ever catch up to even if they tried. If you need examples I'll be happy to provide them. I don't even have to stray too far from friends of our "president" to find a few of them.

It really cracks me up how some of the caring, compassionate crowd are so quick to point out the shortcomings of those who disagree with them and so quick to make to make excuses for/give free passes to their own who have or have had the same problems.

Oh and by the way, the only Fox or any other network or cable news I ever see is from youtube or other vids I am linked to. And those are usually soundbites created to enforce or attempt to discredit one's already established opinion of that particular network so I put little stock into them on judging the network as a whole. The only reason I care if Fox survives is because it causes so much agony and grief to far left lib wackos, including our wonderful Prez and his cronies.

Now carry on trying to prove what you cannot prove.

 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 10/13/2010 5:28:39 AM
The so-called Lib violence of the 60s which you refer to was a response to the extreme violence of the right back then toward war protesters, blacks, and the Vietnamese people.

It we fast forward to today, Ready, please back up your assertion that the left produces more than a fraction of the violent hate groups, and anti-governement extremists that we currently face. The only reason Fox is such an irritant, is that it's producing a super uniformed mass of the populace, and a violent, deadly faction, all based on conspiracy theories and lies, passed off as news.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 10/13/2010 3:35:07 PM
The shiite that crazy paranoid, diminishing majority, skeerdy cat, tea partiers do these days would not be tolerated if they were black...From this man's perspective and many others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtH7vH4yRcY&feature=player_embedded#!
 Hawaiianluau
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Posted: 10/13/2010 4:08:16 PM

if they were black...

...then they could stand armed with weapons and intimidate at polling places on election day without any repercussions whatsoever as has already been proven.
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 10/14/2010 9:31:04 PM
['quote]..then they could stand armed with weapons and intimidate at polling places on election day without any repercussions whatsoever as has already been proven.

One man, a Black Panther connected individual, holding a nightstick ?

The one that was fairly quickly stopped by police and then sent away from the polling station ?

Someone that didn't seem to "intimidate" anyone ? People did seem to walk in without problems.

O.K. , not great, but far from a "wave" of events.

As opposed to :


Nearly 350 right-wing protestors crowded a New Mexico town’s busiest intersection yesterday to protest President Obama’s supposed anti-gun agenda and the "government takeover of our health care system." While the event mostly looked like any other recent right-wing rally - complete with signs reading "replace the communists in DC" and "the sky is falling! A black man is president!" - what set this protest apart was that there "were plenty of handguns and rifles displayed."

The local Tea Party and a group called the Second Amendment Task Force (2ATF, a reference to the ATF, which enforces gun laws) encouraged people to bring guns to the event in Alamogordo, NM, in order to "put a positive light on gun ownership," said 2ATF’s founder Dan Woodruff. While the two protests were technically separate, they were planned together for the same day in adjacent locations. Otero Tea Party Patriots coordinator Don Omey said he was "proud" of the gun-toters. "That’s what we need to turn some minds around," Omey said. Under New Mexico law, it’s legal for anyone over the age of 19 to open-carry a holstered firearm in most public places.

And while there was no violence during the event, one protestor wearing a Tea Party shirt said his loaded gun was a "very open threat" to anyone who might "try to take over the country completely as a socialist communist [state]."

http://www.truth-out.org/topstories/010310ms3




Alamogordo, New Mexico-This past Saturday about 300 real Americans, in real America showed up to express their dismay of President Barack Obama with the usual flag waving, sign carrying and gun toting. They were concerned with guns, health care, taxes and oh yeah, did I mention guns.

According to the New Mexico Independent’s Chris Dudley “organizers encouraged attendees to bring firearms”. The organizers were “Otero Tea Party Patriots, the Alamogordo Second Amendment Task Force and the Sons of Liberty Riders, a motorcycle rights organization. Protestors were encouraged by the organizing groups to bring guns to the protest.”

Since when did it become “patriotic” to bring guns to a political rally? At this anti Obama gun toting patriotic political rally, it was encouraged.

This past summer at two Presidential town hall meetings guns were present, first at New Hampshire where one man was shown carrying a side arm holding a sign that reads; "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants,"  a quote from Thomas Jefferson. The Secret Service said that the State laws prevented them from doing anything, the Secret Service also said another man was arrested for carrying an unlicensed gun before the start of New Hampshire town hall .

At the second Presidential town hall meeting in Arizona more guns showed up, and again the Secret Service said that there was nothing that they could do. About a dozen men showed up packing guns openly. One of those men, this man, who at the time refused to give his name is a member of an extremist church, the church of the Faithful Word Baptist Church who’s Pastor Steven Anderson prays for President Obama to die, and has given several sermons asking for him to die.


It's simple, anyone who shows up where the President will be cannot carry a gun, you know, it sounds so simple, sounds sensible, sounds like something that even the Secret Service themselves would understand, which I am sure they do. The Secret Service needs to make their own point about guns at political events , if you show up with guns where the President will be in attendance, at the very least you and your gun will be locked up until the President has left

At those two town halls, the Secret Service said that there was nothing that they could do other than watch, because those States laws allowed them to carry fire arms, that may be true, but, the Federal government is constantly usurping State laws, so you can't tell me that when the President is in town his safety doesn't override Bubba's right to stand outside the building with a gun where the President is.     

It’s time  for the "Tea Party" to act like adults and to start using common sense, political events are NOT events that you brings your guns too, it is not patriotic, it is foolishness. 

http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-las-vegas/guns-at-new-mexico-teabaggersarty


Remember when wearing the wrong T-shirt could get you arrested at a presidential rally ?


09.15.04
CHARLESTON, W.Va. — A couple arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol filed a federal lawsuit yesterday alleging their First Amendment rights were violated.

Nicole and Jeff Rank were removed from the event in handcuffs after revealing T-shirts with President Bush's name crossed out on the front. Nicole Rank's shirt had the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back and Jeff Rank's had "Regime change starts at home" on the back.

Their lawsuit was filed in federal court in Charleston by American Civil Liberties Union attorneys. It names Gregory Jenkins, deputy assistant to the president and director of the White House Office of Presidential Advance, and W. Ralph Basham, director of the U.S. Secret Service, as defendants.

"What is at stake here transcends politics," Jeff Rank said at a news conference at the Capitol. "What is at stake is the right of all Americans — Democrats, Republicans and Independents, all Americans — to peacefully voice their dissent to their government."

He said although he and his wife had never participated in a political protest before, they believed the lawsuit was necessary because, "unless common citizens like ourselves are willing to stand and fight for their civil liberties, those very liberties our great nation was founded upon, ideals of freedom that keep us strong today, will wither and erode until they are gone forever."

The couple wants a judge to declare unconstitutional any policy that led to their arrest. They also are seeking unspecified monetary damages for emotional harm they suffered.

Spokesmen for the Secret Service and the U.S. Department of Justice, to whom a White House spokesman directed questions, refused to comment. Both said their agencies did not comment on ongoing litigation.

Trespassing charges filed against the couple by Charleston police officers after they were removed from the event were later dismissed because a municipal judge determined city trespassing ordinances do not apply to Statehouse grounds. City Council and Mayor Danny Jones have publicly apologized to the Ranks.

Jones, a Republican, has said the police officers who arrested the Ranks were told to do so by Secret Service agents.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041


How times have changed.....



People are sick of GUN CONTROL! Every day new Un-Constitutional laws are made up which INFRINGE upon every citizens unalienable right to strap on a gun!

February 22nd, Washingtons Birthday is the day we make a STAND AS A NATION! They can't arrest everyone! On the 22nd of February, the whole nation who believes in an unquestionable right to carry any firearm, openly or concealed etc needs to holster up and carry openly in defiance of the gun gestapo in DC!

On February 22nd, TAKE YOUR STAND AT YOUR STATE CAPITOL - HIGH NOON!!!!!! Show up STRAPPED OPENLY! It's time to take this country BACK!

This page is not to argue about more Gun Control - permits, or the sick mindset the government has conditioned most of the people with, this is about breaking those chains, yes breaking their ILLEGAL Gun Control Laws, and taking a stand on the 22nd!

SOME States have Un-Constitutional laws in place which forbid open-carry of firearms. Also, they may forbid carrying firearms at the State Capitol building (yet another Un-Constitutional Gun Control Law).

I would suggest in these states, that persons participating should consider carrying a RED GUN (Rubber training weapon), or possibly an AIRSOFT assault rifle. We are NOT trying to get people arrested- What we ARE doing is SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE WILL NOT TOLERATE GUN CONTROL ANY LONGER!

This Group is exercising it's 1st Amendment right to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression, and Freedom to Peacefully Assemble. Anyone who doesn't like it can lump it!

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/BlogPostView.aspx?id=aab90837-385f-4c37-840a-75349d2bbe7e


In the Sixties, Reagan and a lot of other older white politicians had ZERO problems banning guns in public - when blacks were carrying them.


 Earthpuppy
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The Tides Foundation is asking that advertisers to withhold support for Fox News terrorism.

"The next "assassin" may succeed, and if so, there will be blood on many hands. The choice is yours. Please join my call to do the right thing in this regard and put Fox News at arm's length from your company by halting your advertising with them. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/15/tides-foundation-ceo-glenn-beck_n_764470.html
 Forni
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Posted: 10/17/2010 2:22:09 AM
To shorten Up my answer , I'll sat they are both stupid and evil
 PGL7
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Posted: 10/24/2010 7:32:56 AM
Is Fox News Evil or Stupid?

Well let's see now... they are by far the most successful cable news channel so not stupid.

Are they crazy.... ya.... crazy like a Fox!
 hungry_joe
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I agree with the above post, that they tend to be a bit ridculous. Same can be said about the other cable news channels too. I really can't stand any of the infotainment of the Right and Left. Both sides are completely nuts IMHO.

Debt worries me. What futher worries me is the unfunded mandates of the Fedreral Government. Keysian economics is best applied when there is a Gold or Silver standard to support it. There's a myth on both sides about deficits and surplus's. When talking about this we are discussing projected amount of revenue, considering that governments don't make a profit, or product. This point was reinforced in my Federal Aquistions class. So what we do is print money to devalue our currency thus, using a accounting trick to hide the real amount of debt owed on the books. Furthermore, you can look at the debt level of the 1980's and see the percentages but this too is a deceiptive number because what is not included is the change in Federal Law which took OSDI (Social Security) and placed it into the general fund. This increase is also due to the reequipping of the US Military, was 7% of the overall, Federal budget where OSDI, and other FICA expenses made up nearly 1/3 of the Federal budget. So when talking about the Federal budget we must look at the entire pie. The Clinton percentages are partly because of changes of Federal Law as well; and the TANF program.
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Posted: 10/24/2010 5:11:31 PM
I'm still voting for "evil."
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