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 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 98
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I'm pretty much of a ovo-lacto carnivore, and leaning more and more that direction as I age. Simple: the fewer carbs I eat, the healthier I am (doctor documented). I've also noticed two things: vegans tend to be the least interesting people I meet, as a group; and also the least healthy. For all the claims they make of feeling *good* because of their diet, in fact, they seem to have endless bouts with head colds, chest colds, flu, sinus stuff, aches and pains, low energy, under the weather. . . . This is true of ov0-lacto vegetarians, too.

My sense? Any diet that can kill you without supplements (vitamin B12) is prolly not what creator intended you to eat. Evolutionarily, carnivores (predators) have their eyes placed side by side in their heads, facing forward; herbivores (prey) have their eyes placed on either side of their heads, looking sideways so they can keep an eye out for predators. . . .

In my view, there's a certain arrogance in expecting someone with different views than your own to hold to your belief system, even if it's "only" where he/she lives. I honestly don't believe we were created to be the boss of others. Any others. And especially not Significant Others. . . .

 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 99
Vegetarians - how do you feel about your SO cooking meat?
Posted: 9/13/2010 12:17:31 PM

* Blood group O is believed by D'Adamo to be the hunter, the earliest human blood group. The diet recommends that this blood group eat a higher protein diet. D'Adamo bases this on the belief that O blood type was the first blood type, originating 30,000 years ago.
* Blood group A is called the cultivator by D'Adamo, who believes it to be a more recently evolved blood type, dating back from the dawn of agriculture, 20,000 years ago. The diet recommends that individuals of blood group A eat a diet emphasizing vegetables and free of red meat, a more vegetarian food intake.
* Blood group B is, according to D'Adamo, the nomad, associated with a strong immune system and a flexible digestive system. The blood type diet claims that people of blood type B are the only ones who can thrive on dairy products and estimates blood type B arrived 10,000 years ago.
* Blood group AB, according to D'Adamo, the enigma, the most recently evolved type, arriving less than 1,000 years ago. In terms of dietary needs, his blood type diet treats this group as an intermediate between blood types A and B.


This is actually pretty funny, in a scientific sense. Since Blood Type AB is the consequence of an A parent and a B parent, but A's evolved 20,000 years ago, and B's evolved 10,000 years ago, but the two of em waited 9,000 years to start having babies. . . . .

 Secondhand_Lion
Joined: 11/10/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2010 2:04:51 PM
^^^^If you wait long enough....some common sense could show up. I believe it did About all I read on these forums is something according to so and so. It seems people can't think for themselves anymore. There is alway some government grant sucking B.S. artist filling their heads with a thousand conflicting theories on a regular basis....and they buy it! Logic tells me that if you open your mouth and look in the mirror and see canines.....mother nature pretty much planned your proper diet.....and without the help of Dr. So and So.
 moraima
Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:54:30 PM
"Lots more articles about what's in the meat your eating "

I keeping asking what is in the vegetables you are eating, but no one wants to answer that question.

Again, I say that for every study posted, it can be counter posted with a study that proves the opposite.

The medical associations etc. brings out data about every 5 years that contradicts what they said 5 years prior. Most often the new report is filled with info that holistic medicine has been reporting all along.

As long as every body is comfortable with what they are eating, I see no problem. When an s/0 tries to many someone comply and changing their diet drastically............the drama starts.
 moraima
Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 9/13/2010 9:05:56 PM
"Moraima, the manure composting process normally produces high enough temperatures to break down antibiotics before it even comes into contact with the soil. Antibiotics aren't super thermally stable."

If you are sure of your facts, you better contact the University of Guelph, and tell them that their studies about antibotics and pesticides found in all parts of vegetables are incorrrect. I am sure they would be glad to see you add your proof.

"And the medical associations have been recommending people increase their fruit and vegetable consumption and reduce meat for a lot longer than 5 years :)"

Twisting my words to fit your comply rules again I see.

"People should have to figure things out for themselves."

I complete agee. Hopefully they have the tools to do so, including an open mind.

"Who do you buy your seed from?"

I am fortunate enough to have enough Native doctor friends would have converted their farms into growing fields of natural native plants that grown natural seed producting plants that are being preserved for future generations. I am truly blessed.

However, I eat an almost carb free diet, simply because carbs make my body feel awful and sluggish. Fortunately for me, I don't like breeds, pasta etc. Maybe I don't like it because my body doesn't like it, and maybe I just like like that type of thing in my mouth. Now if my dear friend eat it and enjoy it, I am happy for them.

I eat very little fruit in Canada (raspberry off my property yum) except when in the tropics (go regularly) where I stuff myself on pineapple etc. picked a few hours before I eat it. I come back to North America and try to eat the stale tropical fruit that has taken weeks to get here............ew. Canned fruit taste like aluminum.

Now for me there is nothing better than meat and tons of veggies. More fowl in the summer month, more beef in the winter.

The taste of meat in the tropics killed same day, free range, no antibotics, only favoured with garlic...................sweetest meat to my mouth.

I grow my own herbs...................love Rosemary with meat and veggies.

Each to our own.
 moraima
Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 9/13/2010 10:26:09 PM
5% eatten on a daily basis....................ew!

Pesticides/antibotics are in our water, our air contains huge amount. You just can't get away from it in North America.

Where do you think all the compost collected in recycling goes.................I don't want to think what is in that.

" it's pretty standard practice for organic farmers(which is what I eat"

Have you checked out organic regulations, and how effective they are? Do you personal know your sources?

"- looking forward to growing my own in the gardens at my new place though!)."

Then at least you have some control. However air and water supply is an issue.

Let's face it, we can live hundreds of miles from civilization, but water supplies and winds bring polution.

Livestock and industrial polution is something we can't get away from no matter where we live in NA.
 Ideoform
Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 9/17/2010 9:15:49 AM
For those who are vegetarian, avoid canned fruits and vegetables, and consider having a single glass of un-sulfured wine with a meal to help prevent the formation and build-up of formaldehyde in your system, unless you have a history of alcohol addiction.

New Concern in Your Food: Wood Alcohol (Methanol)

"What is dietary methanol?
Fresh fruits and vegetables contain small amounts of naturally-occurring methanol, and the artificial sweetener aspartame converts into methanol in your body.

Normally this is not a problem as the methanol is typically bound to pectin, and since your body has no enzyme to metabolize that bond it is simply excreted in your stool and none of the methanol is absorbed into your body.

However, the problem occurs when you can or bottle fruit- or vegetable juice, as the methanol tends to then dissociate from the pectin into free methanol, which you do absorb.

The methanol you absorb readily passes the blood brain barrier where it can be converted to form formaldehyde, which is a potent toxin that actually causes most of the damage.

Ethanol (alcohol) is used as the preferred antidote for accidental methanol poisoning in an emergency.

One possible explanation for why mortality rates are higher for non-drinkers than for moderate drinkers may be that low levels of ethanol (alcohol) in your bloodstream helps prevent the formation of formaldehyde from dietary methanol."

~ from:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/14/why-do-heavy-drinkers-outlive-nondrinkers.aspx
 Ideoform
Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 9/17/2010 8:11:12 PM

"So what are recovering alcoholics supposed to drink as a nightcap in order to live a long and happy life?"


I'm looking into that. I have read that Kefir is a good substitute and reduces cravings for alcohol and sugar. It needs to have active cultures and be organic. In Russia, its called "The Feel-good drink" and I've heard they do drink a lot. Its been suggested for use in treating depression due to malabsorption of nutrients necessary for brain function.

"Kefir is the cousin of yogurt, and its roots can trace back more than 2000 years. Originating in the Caucasus Mountains of Europe where people live well past 100 years, the word kefir is thought to have been derived from the Turkish word "Keif" for "good feeling," probably due to the sense of well-being after drinking it."

~ Lifeway Kefir

(no I don't work for them. And no, I'm not a recovering anything. Except, um, well... recovering divorced person.)

Vegans can drink coconut kefir made from young organic coconuts. It can also be made with goat's milk, or soy milk. I'm learning how to make it myself with a "starter" from Body Ecology.
 Ideoform
Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 9/19/2010 9:31:35 PM
Three years ago my son was getting severe migraine headaches for several months, ending up with him in the hospital seeing a neurosurgeon and getting an MRI, plus surgery measuring the pressure in his brain. Long story...the end result was that we found out his high school had switched to only providing diet sodas that year. When he stopped drinking diet soda, his migraines stopped and have never returned. He now has to avoid other things like gum with aspartame in it.

My ex-husband's sister was trying to loose weight 10 years ago and started drinking diet sodas. She got pretty much addicted to them and was drinking about 6 - 8 per day. Within a couple of years she was diagnosed with MS. Her family thought the diet sodas could be to blame because she drank them excessively, and talked her into quitting them even though she didn't want to. After much prodding from her sisters and brothers, she finally gave them up and her MS is now in remission.

It is worth noting that during the time she drank the diet sodas, she gained a lot of weight instead of loosing it, even though she was exercising, too. She has now lost weight since quitting the diet soda and is a normal weight.

My son's basketball coach had terrible migraines for many years, and five years ago, ended up in the hospital when he was on a camping trip when he didn't have access to the diet sodas that he had been drinking every day at the time. He then made the connection for the first time to his headaches, quit drinking diet sodas altogether, and hasn't had any migraines for years.

In hindsight, I wish we could have known about it sooner, and avoided the stuff altogether -- and avoided all the expensive medical treatments when all it was, was a man-made chemical in stuff we could stop buying. After all, nobody really NEEDS diet soda. It doesn't provide any kind of nutrition.

That's why I tell people about it. I hope it saves someone from headaches and expensive medical tests and treatments that don't really help if you are reacting to it.

If anyone gets bad headaches and drinks more than one diet soda per day, I suggest giving up the diet sodas for a while before trying all the other more expensive things you can do.
 Cat*Eyes
Joined: 9/13/2006
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Posted: 9/20/2010 12:31:57 AM
I have always been a Vegetarian. I have rejected meat since it was first put on my plate.
My opinion on this question is: The person cooking meat in my house must have a separate cooking pan to cook meat. My ex never cooked meat in my house, but he was allowed to, on a separete pan, I did not use. He got his meat food from fast food places and usually ate it before he got home. He had cook outs on my property in the cook out area outside. They cooked their meat on the outside grill, which did not bother me.
 Greatcatch12345
Joined: 5/2/2011
Msg: 126
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Posted: 9/20/2011 6:24:28 AM
I wont date a vegan...period..end of story..at some point in the relationship it will most likely become an issue. they are a pain in the a** to take out to dinner...no dairy, butter, etc..cant even use the same frying pan as fish,chicken..etc..
How many restaurants serve tofu?/:-(
I tried it once (dated a vegan) because she was soo freckin' hot....but after a couple of months..it was way too much of a hassle. Cooking is my life...so we would not be compatible in a big way.
I have seen a rare few examples work out, but its the case where food is nowhere near the top of their hobbies, fun, sharing, enjoyment of life, etc..
I live to eat..not eat to live. Even if a woman simply just orders a 'salad' everytime we go out..its a deal-breaker! LOL...
 CapoeiristaVegan
Joined: 8/22/2011
Msg: 128
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Posted: 5/12/2012 4:28:33 PM
I wish there was an vegan vegetarian option to check on your profile so its easier to find other vegetarians on POF
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