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 k_trout
Joined: 1/6/2011
Msg: 36
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Their only strategy now, is to attack Wakefield again, get global mileage out of it, and hope people fall for it.


I agree that pro-vaccine people will use the reports about Wakefield as "proof" vaccines are safe when actually all the Wakefield fiasco shows is that Wakefield's research is bogus; not that vaccines are safe.

And the anti-vaccine people will use the reports as their "proof" of the "Big Pharma" conpiracy trying to discredit Wakefield's findings.
 k_trout
Joined: 1/6/2011
Msg: 37
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 1/11/2011 9:15:36 PM
^^^^

Your link "http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/show-me-vaccines-are-safe-the-importance-of-the-supreme-court-and-bruesewitz-v-wyeth/116781"

sounds impressive, but doesn't appear to have anything to do with the supreme court, all the link gets you is a woman's blog about her children's new pet hermit crabs


and in response:

http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2006/08/405/

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience_argument

http://autism.about.com/od/causesofautism/a/dovaccines.htm

http://www.healthwatch-uk.org/mmr.pdf

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/06/autism.vaccines/index.html

http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/06/study-linking-vaccines-to-autism-is-fraudulent/
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 38
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 3/9/2011 7:55:58 PM
Some usefull sites to read and info to ponder.
http://homefirst.com/info-1/vaccine-choice.html
http://www.healingourchildren.org/vaccine_side_effects.htm
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/damaged.html (shows vaccine damage stats)
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 39
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 4/21/2011 6:43:48 PM
i've been debating this on the Topix forums. Come by and get involed. There are many issues discussed, and you can speak your mind without moderators threatening you with expulsion.
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 40
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 6/22/2011 2:40:25 PM
www.topix.com/health/influenza/2011/06/regulator-scathing-of-autralian-vaccine-maker
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 41
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 6/23/2011 4:31:47 PM
I see "Allan" has a closed mind and prefers to side with authorities so as to feel safe and appear right. Its too bad so many people are naive about vaccine injury. The U.S.A. government takes it seriously. Started a vaccine injury compensation program and a vaccine court. This year it gave the industry blanket immunity from litigation. Seems like a lot of protection for an industry that makes "safe" vaccines. There doesn't seem to be another industry that gets that level of protection. One can only conclude the protection is necessary, after all they were almost litigated out of business before all this protection came into play. I guess people were angry about all the non-injuries from those safe vaccines.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 42
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 6/24/2011 1:04:09 PM
Alan hasn't considered countless findings of fault leveled at vaccine producers. Seems there must have been evidence for a conviction and opposing defense evidence. Isn't that how court works? And the comments about beliefs, its quite common for a person to side with others who think the same, its not a crime. I think Alan should consider why a government would protect a private industry. It would seem chances of further and increasing numbers of claims and the real threat of further convictions has forced vaccine producers to demand protection or they would stop making vaccines. And thats exactly what's happened. Alan's closed mind can not fathom the truth. Without government protection, criminal charges would be likely.
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 43
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 6/25/2011 7:39:33 PM
If you know of some to back up your statement, post them. Vaccines are harmful, there is no doubt of that. Anyone with a computer can search vaccine side effects . Why don't you?
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 44
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 6/26/2011 1:35:02 PM
Funny how people focus only on what benefits vaccines seem to have. Few care about victims of side effects. Choosing between possible benefits and possible life changing side effects are not fair options, because marketing unfairly favors advertising benefits as all marketing does, while downplaying and minimizing negative consequences. People are conned, and when injury occurs, they are ignored. That's fraud, and fraud is criminal. When it causes death or impairment, its criminal negligence.
 UnixGrand
Joined: 5/9/2011
Msg: 45
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are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 6/26/2011 6:16:17 PM
Instead of blaming government protection as the reason the alleged perpetrators aren't facing prison sentences, how about posting links to scientific evidence that vaccines are harmful?


Vaccines are created by men, and humans make errors. As simple as that.



Seem to have? Smallpox, polio, and tetanus vaccines work great. Of course people will focus on the benefits of vaccines, did you expect researchers & doctors to just inject people with compounds for the heck of it, and see later if they have any beneficial effect?


Yes... I expect them to just inject people to see later if they have any beneficial effect. That's why Doctors call it a Practice.

With all the so called tested drugs that have been approved by a government agency for use by the people.... They are using all of us as Guinea pigs for the next generation. So many people who are taking government approved Statins for cholesterol. These are the same drugs that are causing Dementia, and Alzheimer's in people now. That's why their is such a large number of people inflicted now. Yes I would consider that a Practice.



Or you can blame the mythical "Big Pharma" conspiracy.... but there's no evidence of that either.... maybe they meet at Area51.



As for the big Pharmaceuticals.... They are only looking to rake in the billions. Do you really think they want to cure anybody? They would lose loads of money if they did. They love when people are ill, and are in need of their medications. Cha Ching!! All these medicines that are being found to cause illness, and are losing their approvals with the FDA now. Medicines we all believed in. Try suing the FDA and see where that gets you. Because once they are approved by the FDA, they dissolve any legal suits from the Pharm. companies. That's really convenient.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 46
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 8/5/2011 9:01:17 PM
Do vaccines cause learning disabilities and behavioral problems?

www.whale.to/vaccine/thompson.html

www.rense.com/general94/gmodna.htm

www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/opinions_decisions_vaccine/Published

http://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/murdoch-and-vaccines-exposure-of-murdochs-crimes-expose-a-much-larger-story/

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/wakefield-has-company

http://www.thenhfieland.com/?p=439

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/measles-united-kingdom-wakefield -factor
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 47
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 8/9/2011 2:32:01 PM
Wakefield's work has been replicated many times. The connection to the newspaper phone tapping in Britain shows Brian Deer, Pharma companies who make MMR, the Murdochs, The Lancette are all connected and participants in the intentional attack on Wakefield. I listed many links that will help anyone understand the truth.
 walkwithmenow
Joined: 7/27/2011
Msg: 48
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 8/10/2011 3:10:06 PM
Vaccines are less dangerous than walking in a open field in a thunder storm. But they are not without risk. Your chances of being struck down by the shot are less than dying or being injured from one of the serious health risks it is trying to prevent.

I had the measles when I was in grade one before they gave shots for it. I almost died from the illness and I suffered from impairment for the remainder of my life.

That said I had the flu shot for the 1st time in November of 1999. It almost killed me. I developed a serious complication. I am still dealing with the after effects of that choice.

I signed the waver and foolishly thought it could not hurt. The impact started within minutes of the shot. Two days later I didn't even know what my own name was. I survived but can tell you at times I wish I had not survived. It caused me severe distress and was a long recovery.

Like anything in life a one size fits all does not mean it actually will fit you. Be careful do your own research and make the best choice you can based on the facts you find. The chances are no greater than 50/50 that you are doing the right thing.

Only time will tell.
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 49
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 10/11/2011 5:32:10 PM
Funny how a person says vaccines are all good, with the usual nonsense logic that lightning or crossing the street supports their view. How about sticking to the one topic and refrain from subjects of no relation to vaccines.
Then, a person does a 360 and says a vaccine almost killed them. More of that warped logic no doubt. Luckily you weren't struck by lightning or hit by a car on your way to get poisoned.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 50
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 10/12/2011 7:29:16 PM
Alan is perfect. Alan never says anything wrong. Alan is a complete bore.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 51
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 10/12/2011 7:37:10 PM
You hit the nail on the head. Alan ruins the forums. Its why I hardly come here.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 52
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 10/13/2011 9:14:39 AM
Alanisms again. Alan is an autocrat who purports being a democrat. There is only one opinion, his. All other thoughts or opinions are wrong and are to be criticize and ridiculed. Narcisism is his main trait. There is no debate among adults here.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 53
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 10/13/2011 9:22:42 AM
Bingo. Alan ruins the forums. Bringing back the forums is a waste if you have to put up with domineering, narcissistic types like him. Dude thinks he's all that, but he needs to re-think his M.O.
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 54
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 10/13/2011 4:53:45 PM
I think what jachamer means is no one wants to engage you. You're reactions are a bore and your opinion of yourself tiresome. Its no wonder you are one of the few on here.
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 55
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 1/21/2012 1:49:06 PM
So Alan gets off on viewing other men's profiles. Sick. Probably sits there in women's clothes pulling his wee wee while he thinks of men. Really sick.
 chemosaby
Joined: 1/1/2011
Msg: 56
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 1/22/2012 12:54:15 PM
Yeah right. Look at all the male profiles you like and "masterbate" all you like. Its a free country. But of course you over analyze because you're anal rententive and a perfectionist of some sort. Bottom line is you are on here for some reason but you'll say the forums. I think there's a more perverse reason involving men.
 420Kush420
Joined: 4/11/2011
Msg: 57
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 1/22/2012 1:49:56 PM
Most vaccines contain mercury which causes many health issues
 realyred6000
Joined: 1/12/2011
Msg: 58
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 1/23/2012 9:10:29 PM
being alive leads to death. everything is a risk, it is up to you to do a check list, advantages against risks, everytime you open your mouth to eat you could choke but eating is still important no matter what the risk is.
 jachamer
Joined: 4/26/2011
Msg: 59
are vaccines a dangerous health risk?
Posted: 3/9/2012 11:35:15 AM
Just this week Professor John Walker-Smith had his conviction ,that was first judged by the British General Medical Council, reversed by a real judge who called the original conviction UNLAWFUL. Walker-Smith was the senior author of the 1998 paper that was removed by the Lancette. Dr Andrew Wakefield was the real target of this UNLAWFUL action because he was viewed as the leader of some so-called anti-vaccination campaign and was also mistakenly credited with saying the MMR causes autism. More can be read about it on these sites.
http://www.canaryparty.org/index.php/the-news/82-senior-author-of-mmr-pap=er-john-walker-Dr

http://nocompulsoryvaccination.com/2012/03/07/john-walker-smith-wins-case-against-the-gmc-wakefield-next

Funny how the truth comes out, and the true criminals are exposed.
 Ro-mann
Joined: 3/17/2014
Msg: 60
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Posted: 4/30/2014 5:20:11 PM
Its interesting that one of 3 "convicted" has been reconsidered and really, called UNLAWFUL?. Might need to revisit the whole issue.
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