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 Molly Maude
Joined: 9/11/2008
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issues I've had with folks not of my philosophical inclinations ... are only when they're control freaks who INSIST they're RIGHT ... and feel the need to convince me I'm WRONG ...

ok ... be correct ... be superior ... smirk in my wrongness ... I don't care ... just let me happily go along being wrong ... I'm FINE thinking my erroneous little thots!

I've never been in a relationship yet with someone whose political views came even close to mine ... as long as we're not fighting over it, I don't care if he's wrong ... I won't even point out when he's wrong ...

political, spiritual, philosophic, religious thoughts can be expressed without the need to proselytize or recruit ...
 freetime_prospector
Joined: 2/17/2012
Msg: 24
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Posted: 3/9/2012 9:42:31 PM
Yes, politics is talkable, as long as one respects the thoughts of the other. Isn't it partly about the meeting of the minds?
 Wonder5750
Joined: 1/30/2012
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Posted: 3/10/2012 7:57:44 AM
I have found that people of different beleifs be it politics or religion or even recycling .. lol they can get along as long as there is respect for their ideology and kindness regarding debate. As soon as the snide remarks, no matter how light or funny start up there will be a peicing of the heart, be it little at first. This will grow as time goes on until thoughts are kept, things go unspoken, at that point part of you is hidden and there is a chink in the relationship bonding. Anytime you don't speak your mind for fear of retrobution is the time you start "hiding" some of who you are. No good can come from that.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 3/10/2012 3:11:19 PM
I don't begrudge anyone her political views. I don't take it personally that someone differs with me. But I've very seldom gotten the same tolerance in return from women who disagree with my conservative views.

These good liberals often act is if those views mean I'm not just wrong, but a bad person--heartless, controlling, greedy, judgmental, personally inhibited, and God knows what else. I'm the bad guy. Meanwhile, they press for foolish, destructive public policies which cause millions of people all sorts of needless suffering, while congratulating themselves for being such wholesome, caring souls.

I think the term "liberal," as it's usually used, is ironic--it typically goes along with a self-righteous morality and a narrow, not-too-well informed mind. What's even more ironic is that this up-tight narrow-mindedness--which sometimes seems almost like religious zeal--is the very thing these "liberals" often accuse conservatives of. What's the pop therapy term for that--projection?
 frijolera_ninja
Joined: 4/11/2011
Msg: 27
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Posted: 3/10/2012 10:19:02 PM
I was chattin it up with this one guy thought omg hes soooo cute then he went on to brag about goin on this protest and that protest, camped out for ows in long beach and a few other things he asked what were my thoughts about all that.... lmao replied back im a republican havent heard from him since! I agree though being on hard ends of the political spectrum I think would just be too much for any relationship.
 Molly Maude
Joined: 9/11/2008
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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:05:41 AM
I agree with the opinions expressed by Wonder5750 ... and repeat what I stated "back in the day when this post was young!" ... September 26, 2010 ... "political, spiritual, philosophic, religious thoughts can be expressed without the need to proselytize or recruit ..."

as Wonder stated, there needs to be respect for the other person's opinions, ideology ... and kindness during debate ... once there's what she called "a piercing of the heart" ... that wound creates a terse situation and, as she stated, "no good can come of that" ...

I personally don't understand all the name calling ... just because YOUR opinion is not MY opinion ... that's ok ... you don't have to go into full-on attack mode! do you really think all the name calling is going to change anyone's mind?

feel smug ... I don't care ... just don't attack me! be "right" ... it's ok ... I don't mind if you think you're "right!" ... we're both entitled to our own and separate "truths" ...

I don't understand the compulsion to "correct" everyone else's opinions ... "right" our incorrect thinking ... sheesh ... (walking off, muttering to myself, shaking my head ...)
 jmark4
Joined: 7/3/2011
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Posted: 4/4/2012 12:46:01 AM
what's sad is that people are not Americans anymore, they are Republicans or democrats. They think their party is perfect and the other party can do nothing right. Anyone that close minded and ignorant, I'm not dating.

Politicians are about getting re elected; they aren't about caring for us. Politicians are bought off by lobbyists who are paid for by corporations.

I dont trust any of them and anyone worshiping either party makes me yawn and I move on.
 BlackLady1953
Joined: 5/27/2011
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Posted: 4/5/2012 1:09:22 PM
No...it doesn't work....
 Jennywillwin
Joined: 12/27/2011
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Posted: 4/5/2012 6:59:09 PM
The question is "Does political belief matter?" At any other time in the past I would have no,it wouldn't matter, I could agree to disagree. I'm an Independent and can find faults in both parties.

Unfortunitely now with as much as I detest Obama's politics unless I could get him to see the truth and come to my side then no, I couldn't date him. Our country is being destroyed and I don't take it lightly.

I also want a Christian to date so my odds are pretty slim these days.
 Jennywillwin
Joined: 12/27/2011
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Posted: 4/5/2012 7:25:13 PM
Thanks for the advice Paul. I certainly will not find them on a Christian singles site. They tend to have different issues but they do have them. I was shocked when I saw what some of them typed in their forum on one site. I can't revert back a few centuries ago where women were "meek and knew their place" lol.

IF you know any Christian views and are aware of current events then you may have a clue how I feel about the future, it isn't good! We are in for a ride regardless of who is elected but if it's Obama, you may want to learn some survival skills and find a second location,lol.

I only like one candidate but I completely support him and that is Ron Paul .
 Leib ben Yitshak
Joined: 3/26/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2012 10:48:31 AM
I posted once on one of the forums and someone checked out my profile only to discover that I am an economist.
That person blamed me for all the economic ills of the country. LOL
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 Leib ben Yitshak
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Posted: 4/27/2012 10:51:50 AM
Hi Match,
The problem with labels is that they generealize beyond the data. I am socially liberal with regard to gender and race but horribly conservative with regard to economic issues. I am also indifferent to other issues such as abortion.
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 Leib ben Yitshak
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Posted: 4/27/2012 10:56:12 AM
I couldn't resist, so I stood up, looked her straight in the eye, and said "OK, You are a cab". The poor waitress lost it, laughing, and my date was over, as she stomped out the door. After I had fnished brunch, when I got the check, there was only one brunch billed. I am glad we didn't even get to the politics part of the conversation..........

You are my kind of person, Paul.
Leib
 newonthescene76
Joined: 2/24/2007
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Posted: 5/14/2012 12:00:02 AM
For me, I'm a moderate. On some issues I'm extremely liberal and on others I'm extremely conservative. I also have friends that are super liberals, moderates, independents, conservatives, and everything in between. While I can be friends with someone who does not share my ideology (as I love a good debate), I don't want to date anyone that is extremely different from me. I've done that in the past, with more than one man, and it just never seems to work, especially if the issue is important to me.
 Leib ben Yitshak
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Posted: 5/29/2012 6:04:57 PM
Be careful with the labels, "conservative" and "liberal." It is possible that one is socially liberal and economically conservative.
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 KAKI3152
Joined: 5/24/2008
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Posted: 5/29/2012 6:23:16 PM
You just can't take it too seriously. If you get along in other respects,are willing to laugh about the rivalries and are intelligent enough to realize there are things that are beyond your control,then I say go for it. People who get so wrapped up into this are generally unhappy people whom you should not date anyways. This goes for both left and right extremists.
 Cobra977horsepower
Joined: 4/16/2012
Msg: 56
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Posted: 5/29/2012 11:21:22 PM
I think its rather foolish for people to let stupid politics steal away their chance at happiness and/or relationships.

If the goal is to find someone and build a relationship with them, why would you sabbatoge your own chances by putting political issues first??
 gbntbedtyr
Joined: 5/17/2011
Msg: 58
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Posted: 9/7/2012 3:22:35 PM
ThinkinginCA I could enjoy a few debates with you.

I am delightfully surprised to see so many enlightened people here. Yes through respect we can tolerate each others, even opposing, differences, and we can even learn and grow for those differences. Indeed that is what it is all about; politics, the art of talking reasonably and rationally, to find a compromise that both can live with, from our differences. Sadly as unfortunate that it is, many treat politics like a pep rally, or even a religion.

Case in point: one of my galfriends back in college, we were not just politically incompatible, we were total polar opposites. There was no topic we could broach that was not a debate. How we came to care for each other I don't know, but we did, and we both looked forward to the challenges each new debate brought us. In fact, the only time we had ever agreed on anything was the end. After maybe a year or so of stimulating debate, we agreed that this was probably not the way to go through life. Many, many, years later, I probably still feel the same. But I dearly wish we had kept in contact, as there has been many a time in life that I would have still loved to sit down over dinner to enjoy a good intelligent debate. And I do have to say, of all those pieces of wall paper, that one with that little cum laude, I believe she was a serious attributing factor.

And for a more entertaining story of politics and dating. Is sitting on a bench talking to a girl a date? Well I have enjoyed dates that were nothing more. Is a date that only lasts five minutes a date? Well I see others have had short dates. Well if such constitutes a date then Chicholina has to be the most notable of those dates. As indeed one fine evening in Rome, I did sit on a park bench discussing opposing politics with Chicholina. I felt it was wrong for a porn star to run for Parliament, and she was the porn star running for Parliament. I thought it was just a publicity stunt, and I was pretty jaded over it. Boy was I wrong. Chicholina turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to Italy in the realm of freedom and prosperity. Awesome, awesome person.
 LAgoodguy
Joined: 8/21/2008
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Posted: 9/20/2012 8:20:12 PM
I seen many posts where women would say that they won't date anyone who is not on the side of politics as they are...
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