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 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 55
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Rather, I meant that, If I were into casual or recreational sex, I most definitely would want to sleep with her. It's only because I feel we have differences in personalities and interests that would make a long term relationship difficult, that I wouldn't.

If you aren't bisexual, that alone makes her fundamentally different from your guy friends (and even females you don't find physically attractive). If she walked out of your bathroom naked and told you she wanted you, would you REALLY say no?
 RushLuv
Joined: 4/16/2009
Msg: 56
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 3:05:47 PM
The few chicks who genuinely aren't for dating (on a dating site...) are just looking for attention. Weed them out quick and you'll be fine, they're easy to spot.


I guess it's too bad, some dudes still don't have a clue. And yes, I'm the #1 attention seeker on this site. Therefore, attention is a must.
 JRodriguez81
Joined: 2/24/2010
Msg: 57
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 3:14:28 PM
I cant tell you how many ladies ive met in the past (not on this site) that CLAIMED to be just "looking for friends" and they ended up in the sack.



Fellas, its all BS lingo. Dont read too deeply into any of it.
 Billy_Famine
Joined: 8/3/2010
Msg: 58
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 3:16:45 PM

I cant tell you how many ladies ive met in the past (not on this site) that CLAIMED to be just "looking for friends" and they ended up in the sack.



Fellas, its all BS lingo. Dont read too deeply into any of it.


Amen to you bro, I've had the same experiences with 'feminists', 'lesbians', just looking for friends kind of girls (they're in a relationship and just looking for friends on here... sure... wonder if her BOYFRIEND even knows that one).
 broncsbuff
Joined: 4/18/2008
Msg: 59
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 4:39:56 PM

I most definitely would want to sleep with her.


dont you get it?...your NOT her friend!!!!

she is just another girl you havent slept with.....

why are you torturing yourself being "friends" with a woman you WANT to sleep with?

cut it off bro....
 fastdogphotog
Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 60
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Posted: 11/22/2010 7:35:44 PM

If she walked out of your bathroom naked and told you she wanted you, would you REALLY say no?


There was a time, before I got to know her as well as I do now, that I might have said yes. But now, while I'll admit I would be tempted, I really would say no. Casual / recreational sex doesn't work for me, and I am certain that, because of our differences, a relationship with her would never work. So I believe that if I were to say yes, I would only regret it later . . . And, yeah, BTDT.


dont you get it?...your NOT her friend!!!!
she is just another girl you havent slept with.....
why are you torturing yourself being "friends" with a woman you WANT to sleep with?
cut it off bro....


Broncs, you and I have had a difference of opinion on this general topic in other threads, so I expect we will have to agree to disagree. While the situation might be "torture" for you, it doesn't bother me in the least. You see, attraction and desire alone aren't enough for a relationship to work for me; there has to be a lot more. And if I am sure the more isn't going to be there, why would I want to risk hurting her and creating a messy situation? See, I like to think in terms of the long term, big picture; not the short term, thumbnail.
 broncsbuff
Joined: 4/18/2008
Msg: 61
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 7:42:53 PM
hey...to each his own...

If you like to hear about all the dudes she bangs, yet one of those dudes wont be you even though you WANT to....

Good for you...

I couldnt do it..for that, I think I am pretty smart....
 Pilose_Wink
Joined: 11/2/2010
Msg: 62
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 7:46:37 PM

Now i can go on to say i find women that hump on the first date cheap & they give uncheap women a bad name, yadda yadda yadda.. but meh, to each their own right. .. and they wouldnt be able to hump a first date if the guy wasnt so damn easy !!!


Hey! I resent that! I’m not easy, and cheap is a very severe word given the extenuating circumstances! And uncheap can just mean pompous moral hypocrisy by a bunch of bored bible thumping knitters!
 JRodriguez81
Joined: 2/24/2010
Msg: 63
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Posted: 11/22/2010 9:39:27 PM

Yeah, this basically. It's kind of a way for girls to say "I'm not that easy!" but if you get her hot enough she won't give a shit what she wrote on an Internet dating profile a few months ago.



If they're attracted to you, and you're a decent guy, they wont give a sh*t what they wrote on their profiles a few days ago.
 Fierysunlvr
Joined: 1/14/2010
Msg: 64
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Posted: 11/22/2010 9:49:13 PM
What's so akward about online dating is that your 1st meet and your 1st date are on the same day. when people meet in real life and they are attracted to each other, they usually show an interest but at the same time, play it cool so as not to scare the other person off. No one would meet someone in real life (that they wanted to like them back) and expect to get laid or be bf/gf from that first meet. You might be thinking it, but you'd keep the thought to yourself and let things play out.

Well, online dating continues to be a learning experience for me.
 Confident-Realist
Joined: 2/8/2004
Msg: 65
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 9:55:38 PM
You can find people to date in the same places you can find friends.

Yes, but you don't go to a Speed Dating place with the intention of just making friends, just as one shouldn't go to a Dating/Matchmaking site with the intention of just making friends. To steal a line from m_church, that's like a vegetarian showing up at a steak dinner.

One can say 'But I'm here for the forums', and that's fine. That's not the Dating part of the website (or even officially part of the website really), so by "Not Single/Not Looking" and Talk/Email and noting that in one's description that does it loud and clear. Using the Forums to make (pen pal) friends is not the Dating site part of it, so that's fine, and a very different story that should go uncontested.

Looking for or offering "friends" or "lets just be friends" or "friends first" usually (and always online) = "I want to control and dictate the relationship. I have an idea of how you are supposed to behave, and how I want you to behave. I want you to live up to my expectations. But it's too much work to actually communicate them so I will just use the handy word of "friend" which really has no meaning by itself, only what I define it as.

Very well put. I think looking for "Friends and Nothing More" is completely a$$inine in the separated Dating part of the ACTUAL site, as I noted above. What that quote pointed out is the problem with the "Friends First" game. It can easily be wanted for a position of power. Control. Avoidance of being hurt, or to bang a lot of people w/ no obligations.

It has many meanings to people -- and the vagueness gives one power, although not everyone likes it vague.

The non-vague and self-delusional version is:
To try and re-create a scenario where you're a friend of a friend in a social setting talking on multiple occasions getting to know each other and then having something develop. It's self-delusional because you can't actually re-create that -- you're picking people out of a Dating/Matchmaking lineup to begin with.

The worst version and too-common version is:
To gain power & control. You want that escape hatch, and the option to say, "Oh no, no no, we're just friends, remember?" despite what actions may have taken place (him paying for dinners, heavy flirting, even some kissing, etc). If he's great, great! We're only "friends" for the first 10 minutes... if he's nice, great! I get my attention and free dinners...

The least-harmful version, but still purposely vague version is:
It's used as a "creature comfort" phrase. You know, like "I want a good/kind/warm hearted man". You see that so much you just gotta laugh -- come up with something original! :) Anyway, it's a creature-comfort phrase that's vague and has no meaning to it, and knowingly so. It's not so much a power-trip, it's just to not come across as wanting to jump into something big, and wanting to explore their options.... taking it slow.

There's still something very wrong with that: Unknowingly in the beginning, it does give them the option to play the "oh, but we're just friends" card in the end. You're NOT just platonic if you're meeting on a Dating/Matchmaking site, so it's completely unnecessary and just causes unworthy confusion, and one can be mistaken for purposely playing games.
 broncsbuff
Joined: 4/18/2008
Msg: 66
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/22/2010 10:01:51 PM

The worst version and too-common version is:
To gain power & control. You want that escape hatch, and the option to say, "Oh no, no no, we're just friends, remember?" despite what actions may have taken place (him paying for dinners, heavy flirting, even some kissing, etc). If he's great, great! We're only "friends" for the first 10 minutes... if he's nice, great! I get my attention and free dinners...


boom....bang....DONE!!!

very well said...dead on...
 fastdogphotog
Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 67
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Posted: 11/23/2010 8:05:04 AM
Yes, but you don't go to a Speed Dating place with the intention of just making friends, just as one shouldn't go to a Dating/Matchmaking site with the intention of just making friends. To steal a line from m_church, that's like a vegetarian showing up at a steak dinner.


Yes, but this site is not a speed dating place, and considering that options on the "dating" side of the site include such categories as "friends", "hang out", and "not single / not looking", the steak dinner analogy isn't really accurate either. Just because the majority may use that side of the site for the exclusive purpose of dating, doesn't mean that everyone does. Not everyone that goes to a restaurant serving plenty of meat gets the carnivore special.


I think looking for "Friends and Nothing More" is completely a$$inine in the separated Dating part of the ACTUAL site, as I noted above.


Just because that is your experience and idea of how this site should work, doesn't make it a universal truth or absolute. In fact, my experiences have been just the opposite. When I first joined and used this site just to make friends, I met and became friends with a few of women. And while not all of those friendships lasted, one did, and that person is someone I consider a real friend now. On the other hand, my experiences since starting to use this site for dating purposes have been poor, maybe fair, at best. So, if I were to go just by my own experiences, I could easily reverse your comment.

However, while I disagree with your position on "just friends", I think you are on to something with respect to your position on the "friends first" approach. While there are exceptions, I think that for many (maybe most) people, the format, process and purpose of online dating inhibit, or even prohibit, a friends first approach. The process of reviewing profiles in order to decide who to contact or accept contact from puts the first date / first contact on a different footing than if you just met someone in real life. And, I think for many, the online environment also fosters expectations that are radically different from most real life situations. As a result, there is a predetermined, somewhat artificial context that comes into play in the first meet / date that just isn't present in the real world when you first meet someone.

 likemyrock
Joined: 10/21/2010
Msg: 68
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 8:54:52 AM

I think looking for "Friends and Nothing More" is completely a$$inine in the separated Dating part of the ACTUAL site

I don't.
But I see a difference between people looking for friends, and people looking to be friends.
One tries to control other people to define the relationship others have to fit in to, the other tries to communicate how you will be controlling your own behavior towards them despite what the other person does or feels. Some people only have a "friend" option to offer others.
So it depends on how it's communicated in the profile. IMO
 mateo45
Joined: 1/17/2008
Msg: 70
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Posted: 11/23/2010 9:05:56 AM
But I see a difference between people looking for friends, and people looking to be friends.
One tries to control other people to define the relationship others have to fit in to, the other tries to communicate how you will be controlling your own behavior towards them despite what the other person does or feels. Some people only have a "friend" option to offer others.

Sounds like you see relationships as basically just being about "control" (either yours or theirs)....?
 S.O.U.L
Joined: 11/23/2009
Msg: 71
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 9:33:58 AM

Just because that is your experience and idea of how this site should work, doesn't make it a universal truth or absolute.

It's a dating site...how else should it work? Matter of fact it right below "Plenty of Fish" it says "Free Online Dating".


In fact, my experiences have been just the opposite. When I first joined and used this site just to make friends, I met and became friends with a few of women. And while not all of those friendships lasted, one did, and that person is someone I consider a real friend now. On the other hand, my experiences since starting to use this site for dating purposes have been poor, maybe fair, at best. So, if I were to go just by my own experiences, I could easily reverse your comment.


You were looking frineds and they were looking for friends..so everyone wins. Where a$$ine comes into play is people who only wants friends and nothing more ...signs up on a dating site (where the majority people are looking for someone to date) and then acts befuddle when the people who are using the site for it's intended purpose (connecting other people who want to date) are not interested in friendship only.

As for people here just for forums, those folks pretty much spell it out in their profiles.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/19/2005
Msg: 72
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 9:41:43 AM
I can't imagine coming online with the intention of looking for friends.
I think some people use it as expressed in some other posts. They came
to date, are taking a break and like the forums and change it to friends, or
they are looking for someone but they figure they'll say friends first so they
can have a get out of a relationship free card.

I'm here because I haven't bothered to leave.
and unless I'm bothering someone, I guess it doesn't matter what my status is.

But yeah, signing up on a dating service with the intention of looking for
friends just sounds sort of sad to me.

To each their own.
 fastdogphotog
Joined: 5/27/2008
Msg: 73
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Posted: 11/23/2010 10:13:28 AM
It's a dating site...how else should it work? Matter of fact it right below "Plenty of Fish" it says "Free Online Dating".


Then please explain to me the point and purpose of the "friends", "hang out" and "not single / not looking" categories. The main purpose of the site may be dating, but it is clearly not the sole, exclusive purpose.


Where a$$ine comes into play is people who only wants friends and nothing more ...signs up on a dating site (where the majority people are looking for someone to date) and then acts befuddle when the people who are using the site for it's intended purpose (connecting other people who want to date) are not interested in friendship only.


If I understand you correctly, you are talking about someone who is just looking for friends contacting someone who has "dating" or "long term" as what they are looking for. If so, then while I might disagree with the exact term "a$$inine", I would agree that doesn't make much sense. In fact, when I was looking for just friends, I limited my emails to other people who listed "friends" or "hang out" as what they were looking for.


But yeah, signing up on a dating service with the intention of looking for
friends just sounds sort of sad to me. To each their own.


Well, it's kind of interesting: when I first signed up, I was fresh out of a relationship, looking to get a sense of what was out there, but in no position to date because my ex-gf was still living with me. But as I looked through profiles and read the forums, I realized that this site could be used to make friends. And, as I posted above, that turned out to be the case, at least for me.
 broncsbuff
Joined: 4/18/2008
Msg: 74
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 10:38:49 AM
I have asked this question and never seem to get it answered...so I will try again....

If your only here to make friends, how do you look at someones profile then? Do you look at a profile and say..."wow, she is attractive, has all the same intrests, looks like fun to hang out with, message her, hang out, like her, then turn around and say..."I only want her as a friend"....

You just did EVERYTHING you would have done if you WERE trying to date. So you go thru all that trouble to find someone you like and get along with, yet DONT want to date her?....why WOULDNT you WANT to date her?....

sorry I cant imagine going thru all the trouble to find someone I like and NOT want to date...that makes NO sense tome...
 Confident-Realist
Joined: 2/8/2004
Msg: 75
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 11:01:53 AM

Yes, but this site is not a speed dating place

Take the 'speed' out of it, and Yes it most certainly is. Have you googled POF and read the description? There is no dating "side" of the site. It IS a Dating site....

include such categories as "friends", "hang out", and "not single / not looking"

Yes, they also have invisible mode too, just like Match. One can be there to be merely an on-looker... and due to the Forums being a Separate portion, not a dating portion, yes, "Not Single/Not Looking" is an option in much the same way. That doesn't take away 1% that it IS strictly a Dating Site.

The "friends" option is admittedly a confusing option for those who are blind to everything else, but "Looking For" is more of a "how to kick things off" approach. For instance, just because I select "Dating" it does not mean I'm not into "Long Term". It's what is my scope set at in-the-now, how I'd like to start things off. There's only ONE selection, so that easily indicates that, as opposed to other sites where you select multiples.

"Hang Out" does not imply just-friends in any way, sorry. "Hang Out" is a casual approach to engaging with the opposite sex. Poor argument there. Activity Partner? Okay, maybe better, but again -- some people would like to kick things off going out hiking or playing tennis keeping things casual, rather than a Date.

If this was set to meet Friends, like a site like Friendster -- then why do you not see the option to select multiple sexes -- guy AND girl? Why not? Look around you! It's a Match-Making Site. Not a social networking site!

"Friends" is there because it gives people the (silly) "Friends First" option... they want to kick it off as being LIKE Friends, as in not rushing into Dating, but at the same time -- it's still a Match-Making exercise, even though it's silly that way.

Just because that is your experience and idea of how this site should work, doesn't make it a universal truth or absolute.

I turn that around right back at ya, bro. This isn't advertised NOR constructed as a social networking site. One has the option to use the Forums, sure, which is a loosely-connected-but-separated part. You can log into the Forums but not to the actual Site, for instance.

Again, look how the site is constructed. I'm not saying how I WANT it to be -- I'm paying attention to how it's constructed. It's all about match-making -- with yes, the option to be invisible, or to be marked off as Not Single/Not Looking, if say you just want to look-but-dont-touch, OR just use the Forums or something.

If the site advertised and was constructed to also accommodate to meet people platonically, then fine. That WOULD be better, because at least folks could separate the two...

... and not have people believing what they WISH to believe by seeing an option of "Friends" and ignoring everything else written on the wall and it's context with everything else considered. To those vegetarians crashing a steak dinner party, I'd say one's time is best spent on Friendster, Facebook, meetup.com, etc. Those aren't dating sites. THOSE have the OPTION for potentially meeting someone to date. On here, on the actual Site (not the forums separated extention), it's a match-making ecosystem with yes, the flexibility for just-sex, meet-the-one, take-it-slow, etc -- falling FAR short of anything close to social networking or finding a bar buddy to hang out with at BW3 or something -- come on! :)
 fastdogphotog
Joined: 5/27/2008
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Posted: 11/23/2010 4:12:45 PM
Yes, they also have invisible mode too, just like Match. One can be there to be merely an on-looker... and due to the Forums being a Separate portion, not a dating portion, yes, "Not Single/Not Looking" is an option in much the same way. That doesn't take away 1% that it IS strictly a Dating Site.


While I would agree that this is primarily, mostly and principally a dating site versus a social networking site, you still haven't convinced me that it is solely, exclusively, and strictly a dating site. Keeping with the eating analogy, a 100 seat restaurant that offers, but doesn't advertise take-out, isn't a take-out establishment, but it's not strictly a sit down restaurant either. Similarly, if this site can, and is, used, even 1% for something other than dating, then it is not strictly a dating site. I would go so far as to argue that my early experiences prove that it isn't just a dating site. If it were, it should not have been so easy for me to make new friends.


The "friends" option is admittedly a confusing option for those who are blind to everything else, but "Looking For" is more of a "how to kick things off" approach. For instance, just because I select "Dating" it does not mean I'm not into "Long Term". It's what is my scope set at in-the-now, how I'd like to start things off. There's only ONE selection, so that easily indicates that, as opposed to other sites where you select multiples.


Really? Where does it say that on the site? Please let me know, because I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Besides, hasn't that topic already been addressed at length in the forums, with there being quite a difference of opinion as to what those categories mean?


"Hang Out" does not imply just-friends in any way, sorry. "Hang Out" is a casual approach to engaging with the opposite sex. Poor argument there. Activity Partner? Okay, maybe better, but again -- some people would like to kick things off going out hiking or playing tennis keeping things casual, rather than a Date.


Hm, I hike, bowl, and do other activities with my female friends, generally with a casual approach to the whole thing. Isn't that how you defined "hang out" and "activity partner"? Or, does that mean that we are beginning to date, and I just don't realize it?

Oh, and again, can you point me to where the definitions are found on this site?


If this was set to meet Friends, like a site like Friendster -- then why do you not see the option to select multiple sexes -- guy AND girl? Why not? Look around you! It's a Match-Making Site. Not a social networking site!


This is one of the reasons I would agree with you that this site is primarily a dating site. But considering you can easily clarify in your profile whether you are open to both male and female friends (which I have seen, BTW), it's not enough to make it solely a dating site, IMHO. And a side note, I also tried some of the social networking sites, and do you want to guess what happened? I received more invitations for casual sex and the like on those sites than here, where I actually made friends.


"Friends" is there because it gives people the (silly) "Friends First" option... they want to kick it off as being LIKE Friends, as in not rushing into Dating, but at the same time -- it's still a Match-Making exercise, even though it's silly that way.


Did Markus tell you that personally? Because again, I can't find it anywhere on the site.


I turn that around right back at ya, bro. This isn't advertised NOR constructed as a social networking site. One has the option to use the Forums, sure, which is a loosely-connected-but-separated part. You can log into the Forums but not to the actual Site, for instance.

Again, look how the site is constructed. I'm not saying how I WANT it to be -- I'm paying attention to how it's constructed. It's all about match-making -- with yes, the option to be invisible, or to be marked off as Not Single/Not Looking, if say you just want to look-but-dont-touch, OR just use the Forums or something.

If the site advertised and was constructed to also accommodate to meet people platonically, then fine. That WOULD be better, because at least folks could separate the two...


And again, this is all why I would agree that the site is primarily a dating site. But, that doesn't mean that it is exclusively a dating site. Another analogy: I haven't been into an Eddie Bauer store in a while, but the last time I happened to be in one, in addition to clothes, they also sold watches, knives, and a few other odd items. Now, I think you would agree, they are generally considered a clothing retailer, they advertise as such, and their stores are constructed and laid out that way. But if I were to say they were strictly, exclusively and solely a clothing retailer, that would be incorrect.


... and not have people believing what they WISH to believe by seeing an option of "Friends" and ignoring everything else written on the wall and it's context with everything else considered. To those vegetarians crashing a steak dinner party, I'd say one's time is best spent on Friendster, Facebook, meetup.com, etc. Those aren't dating sites. THOSE have the OPTION for potentially meeting someone to date. On here, on the actual Site (not the forums separated extention), it's a match-making ecosystem with yes, the flexibility for just-sex, meet-the-one, take-it-slow, etc -- falling FAR short of anything close to social networking or finding a bar buddy to hang out with at BW3 or something -- come on! :)


I hate to break it to you, but when I first joined, I had no idea this site could be used to find and make friends, and I could have cared less one way or the other. It was only after reading multiple profiles of people looking for just friends or to hang out, and after reading some threads in the forums that I realized it could be used as such. Which, I will admit, does tend to prove your point about this site being advertised and constructed as a dating site, but also proves my point that it isn't exclusively a dating site.


I have asked this question and never seem to get it answered...so I will try again....

If your only here to make friends, how do you look at someones profile then? Do you look at a profile and say..."wow, she is attractive, has all the same intrests, looks like fun to hang out with, message her, hang out, like her, then turn around and say..."I only want her as a friend"....


I can't speak for others, but when I was looking for just friends, I would largely ignore the photos, and instead pay attention to the interests and the "about me" section. I would only use the photos as a guide to whether the person seemed reasonably normal and what sort of person they might be. For example, if a woman had a collection of cleavage photos, I would stay away, as I figured it was a safe bet that her idea of "friends" was friends with benefits. Similarly, if a woman had photos with motorcycles, hot rods and the like, I would stay away, as I have no interest in those things.
 Merrylass
Joined: 12/30/2007
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Posted: 11/23/2010 6:19:37 PM
I'm not going to fall in love with everyone I meet. That doesn't mean I might like them enough to be interested in having them as friends. The difference? Friends are people you like a lot but could never live with. OTOH, I've fallen for friends before - it's possible to find out that someone you thought was nice as a friend turns out to be such a gem, you fall in love with them.

It's tiresome to see all the cynical interpretations of 'friend'.
 JRodriguez81
Joined: 2/24/2010
Msg: 78
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Posted: 11/23/2010 6:22:10 PM

I'm not going to fall in love with everyone I meet. That doesn't mean I might like them enough to be interested in having them as friends. The difference? Friends are people you like a lot but could never live with. OTOH, I've fallen for friends before - it's possible to find out that someone you thought was nice as a friend turns out to be such a gem, you fall in love with them.

It's tiresome to see all the cynical interpretations of 'friend'.



And its tiresome for people to read wish-washy responses like this.


I tend to agree with people here. Coming to a dating site, for a friend, is kind of silly.
 FyrKrakn
Joined: 2/21/2010
Msg: 79
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 6:37:23 PM
Geeze, four pages and more in other threads about a frikken whiiney crybaby problem. It is an option provided by the site maker. If you want the option removed so that you do not have to accidently waste a couple minutes of your precious time jacking off to someone who is not looking for a good shaggin from just any yayhoo, then take the argument up with the maker, whatever his name is. Tell him how you feel and those of us in transition or who started out dating but hang around because we continue to meet other friends or who have whatever reason for choosing not to date at this time. He can boot us out.

Is it really necessary to expend so much energy telling a group of people they are not welcome?
 CynthiaSMW
Joined: 9/20/2010
Msg: 80
Just looking for friends
Posted: 11/23/2010 7:16:29 PM

Geeze, four pages and more in other threads about a frikken whiiney crybaby problem. It is an option provided by the site maker. If you want the option removed so that you do not have to accidently waste a couple minutes of your precious time jacking off to someone who is not looking for a good shaggin from just any yayhoo, then take the argument up with the maker, whatever his name is. Tell him how you feel and those of us in transition or who started out dating but hang around because we continue to meet other friends or who have whatever reason for choosing not to date at this time. He can boot us out.

Is it really necessary to expend so much energy telling a group of people they are not welcome?

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