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 oggers
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If there is a set criteria for casting a movie, and pale skinned people are wanted, then why take it so effing personally?? It's just what's required. People cry over absolutely anything and everything these days!!

Get over it already


Well said Abbie !
Directors and producers make the film THEY want to make, and if they want to portray a f******in hobbit as white and not black, then thats their prerogative.
Talk about mountains and molehills ..............
 scorpiomover
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can racial discrimination be acceptable in films?
Posted: 12/23/2010 10:28:27 AM
The director probably thought that all hobbits are white.

But probably they were dark. The hobbits spent a lot of time outside. Back in the 30s, poor people used to spend nearly all their time outside, and they were known to be really, really dark, because of so much time in the Sun.

So I don't think that the director was intentionally being racist. But I DO think he probably miscast the hobbits by picking white people.

RE Msg: 6 by zendy:
Before Obama became president,it was quite rare to see a blackman being cast as the US president in any major movie.Infact the only movie I know this happend was Morgan Freeman in Amageedon.
You're thinking of "Deep Impact". However, "24" had 2 black presidents. Here's a list of the black presidents in movies and TV:
Writers and directors have featured a black man as president in several memorable portrayals. There have been film and television proposals based on the idea, as well.

The first movie portrayal of a black American president was probably that of Sammy Davis Jr. in the 1933 film Rufus Jones for President. In this short musical comedy, the 7-year-old Davis is told by his mother, portrayed by Ethel Waters, that anyone can become president, and later dreams of his own inauguration. Outside the dreams, the film reflects contemporary racist attitudes.

The 1941 musical movie Babes on Broadway included Judy Garland in black male drag singing a song "Franklin Delano Jones", about the first black president of the United States.

"When Rod Serling adapted Irving Wallace's "The Man" to the screen in 1972, the political climate had changed sufficiently that he could promote Douglass Dilman from survivor to competitor—a genuine leader who, after standing up to his white rivals, vows to win the presidency through "legitimate" electoral means." With James Earl Jones starring in 1972, the film version had a heroic black man as president, who ended the film in a position of moral authority.

In 1977 comedian Richard Pryor portrayed the first black president of the United States in a skit on The Richard Pryor Show, his short-lived foray on NBC television.

The 1987 animated series Spiral Zone is the first television show in history to show a serious depiction of an African-American president of the United States in the episode The "Imposter".

In the 1997 science fantasy film The Fifth Element, Tom Lister, Jr. portrayed President Lindberg, a character who was the World President, rather than simply a U.S. President.

A generation after The Man, the 1998 science fiction film Deep Impact featured black actor Morgan Freeman as president Tom Beck. Freeman portrayed his role with such commanding authority that it probably contributed to his coming in second in Moviefone's poll of "Best Movie Presidents". The question was whether a black man indeed had to be this superior to be elected. Critic Louis Bayard noticed that Dennis Haysbert seemed to adopt Freeman's cadences for his own role as president.

In the hit show 24, a television precedent was set when Dennis Haysbert portrayed the lead character David Palmer, a successful terrorism-fighting president. Critic Charles Taylor described him as showing "the determination of magnetism, brains, resolve, compassion and willingness to make tough calls we dream of in a president." After the show portrayed the assassination of Palmer, his brother Wayne, played by D.B. Woodside, was also elected president. The Jerusalem Post speculated in June 2008 that television ratings "may have predicted Obama's primary victory over Hillary Clinton, as the most recent female television president appears to have been less popular than the black leaders of 24."

In 2000, Chris Tucker planned on writing, directing, producing and starring in a movie about the first black president of the United States.

Chris Rock wrote, directed, and starred as presidential candidate Mays Gilliam in the 2003 comedy Head of State, described as "undernourished." The movie's tagline was "The only thing white is the house". Another critic described Rock as in way over his head, and found it "depressing to see Rock pander to the most reactionary elements of the black audience." He also was surprised at some of the settings. "Rock doesn't seem to know much about contemporary America; when his character travels to Memphis (a majority-black city with a black mayor) we see only white people."

In 2004, a sketch on Chappelle's Show called "Black Bush" featured Dave Chappelle as an African-American "interpretation" of then President George W. Bush and his administration. It was controversial due to its set-up segment (which had Chappelle mocking fellow comedian Dennis Miller over the comedian's infamous "free pass" comment regarding not saying anything bad about George W. Bush) and its overall theme that if Bush and his top aides were black, that the public would be more willing to be critical of the President and his decisions. The sketch also features cameo appearances by actor Jamie Foxx, who appears as "Black Tony Blair" and Mos Def as "Black Head of the CIA" holding "Yellowcake from Africa (Anthony Berry's character warns the other not to "drop that shit", though it is clearly just yellow cake).

In CBS's 2004 TV series Century City's fictional timeline, Oprah Winfrey is the US President.

Mike Judge's 2006 Idiocracy featured President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho as a former porn star and champion wrestler played by erstwhile NFL defensive end Terry Alan Crews. Critic Bayard thought it odd that the lead character seemed so little advanced from earlier 20th century caricatures. The "joke is essentially unchanged from the days of Rufus Jones: These are the last guys in the world -- or any world -- you'd want to vote for."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_president_in_popular_culture_%28United_States%29#Movies_and_television

Amazing, isn't it?
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