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 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 648
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not to come off as argumentative, but I can say, there were times in my life where a decent-looking woman offered herself up, BUT I knew (being someone who pays attention to his surroundings) that what would come after the sex would be a PITA--the attempt to make it a relationship, the accusation that I was the one, NOT HER, looking for more than just a cuddle, the fear after the horniness was gone that she'd "be a slut", et cetera.

there are some women willing to "have sex like a man". in other words, just have sex, not try to make it be anything more, not worry about a label, etc. these are, typically, older women who don't worry about labels anymore or they realize that pleasure done maturely isn't a bad thing. but, when a guy is young, he does bump into young ladies who get caught up in a horny moment, then afterward make a big deal about it.

after that experience, he gets gunshy. of course, there are other guys used to getting into trouble, so getting into more trouble doesn't bother them :) or maybe to phrase it another way, they do things without thinking about the ramafications, whether in the bedroom or outside of it, which is how they are easy to find.
 moonbeamlover
Joined: 1/22/2013
Msg: 649
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/26/2013 3:02:24 PM
^^^she made it VERY clear she wanted a f buddy. Twice a week sex, zero expectations, wham bang thank you ma'am

and she made it very clear she wanted HIM for her f buddy.

So he knew she was not going to pressure for a relationship; she did approach like a man and he is someone who is very highly uh revved so i'd have thought she was his ideal person; (mind you MAYBE some of it was my wanting him to finally quit asking me).

So he was not worried about expectations after sleeping with he.r He literally did not want to sleep with her at all,. He considered letting her uh, service him, but did not want to full on sleep with her at all and thought he would be "leading her on" letting her uh, have her oscar meyer.... when he was not going to have anyone crossing any plates.

I have never heard anything that clinical with it being talked about so graphically... it was kinda surreal.

so women obviously can't really get laid whenver they want. Sometimes guys don't want to have to co-perform when they only ant to be performed on then bail immediately, apparently...
 dahlingdarling
Joined: 5/11/2012
Msg: 650
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Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/26/2013 8:14:50 PM
Gals can really get laid whenever they want however I'm not seeing this as having any use unless the gal is charging for the sex since statistics and studies show most heterosexual sex does not result in an orgasm for a gal and guys tend to get more pleasure than they give.

In my opinion getting laid whenever one wants is pretty much useless when it's a 30% chance of having an orgasm and comes with the risk of rape, pregnancy, stis, and stds.
 abmccray
Joined: 8/3/2008
Msg: 651
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Posted: 9/27/2013 6:20:52 AM

so women obviously can't really get laid whenver they want. Sometimes guys don't want to have to co-perform when they only ant to be performed on then bail immediately, apparently...


You aren't understanding the premise.

- it is not that women can get laid by WHO they want WHEN they want by default.

- it is that any woman can get laid by SOMEONE, somewhere, at any time.

The most unappealing woman ever could still walk down the street and have a vagrant or something go for it, in other words.

On the other hand, only around the top half of guys can do the same. The bottom half would have to pay for it if they wanted it at any given time, meaning they'd have to be able to afford that at any given time.

As stated above, though, it's kind of a useless statement. It's a truism, but it's one that doesn't really matter much in practice.
 kj521
Joined: 8/8/2012
Msg: 652
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 7:25:08 AM
Abmccray:


I think you have explained it very well.....a couple of times......some just will never get it! Lol
 usmale6
Joined: 9/14/2013
Msg: 653
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 7:40:12 AM
Saying women can get anybody anytime is like saying a person can drive off a cliff anytime. Reality is what it is... and reality says the vast majority of people will never do that.

Women want to be in love FIRST.
 Blueline294
Joined: 3/28/2012
Msg: 654
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 7:45:01 AM
Women want to be in love FIRST.

^^^^^
And then drive off the cliff? :)
 kj521
Joined: 8/8/2012
Msg: 655
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 7:47:56 AM
Usmale6:

"anybody anytime"

Not anybody.....just somebody! Lol


"Women want to be in love FIRST."


Some women do......some women don't! :)


Blueline294: ^^^^^^

Sometimes! ;)

 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 656
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 1:53:32 PM

Women want to be in love FIRST.

Ew. Please don't speak for all women. Maybe some do...certainly all do not. I'll agree with you that it's not particularly appetizing to just sleep with someone you see hanging out under a bridge, so not many women count it as a blessing to have the ability to do it.
 juliettes7
Joined: 11/4/2012
Msg: 657
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 5:57:10 PM
Yeah it's such a pointless jealousy.
This fantasy male envy of a sexual cornucopia (that gals have available ) I have heard before, usually in passive guys, who seem to think "grass is so green over there" or lightning should strike 'em, someone is magically going to approach them. When it doesn't, the "I'm a victim of my gender".

Reality--these guys could not rise to the challenge of fulfilling these fantasies--the copious sex with different people that is on tap, and they actually don't want it, they just want to talk about it or watch.
It's just more wish fulfillment Walter Mitty day dreaming and mental fluff like fandoms, sports , collecting junk, porn and all the effete distractions to the sexually denuded and envious.

Rather than do, they talk.. and being a voyeur or mental masturbator is probably a preferred replacement or simulation, really what gets off these types- than actually doing a thing. The latter requires effort, unpleasantness, failure, sweat and living on the outskirts of reality. Much better to live in an idealized world that is fantastic and always fulfilling, never disappoints.

Women look for the matching needle in the haystack. Being told they can have hay anytime isn't quite the same.
 Penny_Farthing
Joined: 8/4/2013
Msg: 658
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 7:14:39 PM
We may be able to get laid whenever we want but its the QUALITY of these men who make the majority of us not even bother.
What's so great about having a neverending supply of undesirable men panting at our feet?
 John255317
Joined: 12/28/2012
Msg: 659
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Posted: 9/27/2013 7:17:50 PM
Lots of men can get laid anytime too but that doesn't do anything for me at all. I need passion, not just a body. Huge difference!!
 usmale6
Joined: 9/14/2013
Msg: 660
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 9:05:43 PM
It should read, "most women want to fall in love first". Are you happy now?!
 pureblisscatch4u
Joined: 3/18/2011
Msg: 661
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/27/2013 10:57:03 PM
I agree that most women can get laid whenever they want if they wanted, and if they didn't care about standards, be it physical or emotional. But, I think most guys can get laid whenever they want too, BUT for both men and women, it depends who you know and who you hang out with. I'm in this running/drinking group that's a world wide thing, and they have these big gatherings (called "hashes") sometimes. This group is a lot about drinking and naked debauchery (though some of us are more prudish than the rest). A pattern I've noticed is that it seems, the less attractive a person is in this group, the more sex they seem to have, and with more people. When I've heard about some of the guys who've gotten action at these running events, I'm completely in shock. But, those guys are proof that, if they're in this group, they can get laid at any time. The guys who don't get laid are the ones who actively choose not to. It's not about your gender most of the time, it's all about who you know.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 662
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 7:57:40 AM

It should read, "most women want to fall in love first". Are you happy now?!

Not really - "some" is more accurate.
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/25/2013
Msg: 663
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Posted: 9/28/2013 10:24:53 AM
(moonbeamlover) ^^^hey, know someone who was on a date with a woman... and she was VERY interested in him.

and where he in theory is intensely, well, revved, she offered to well, do an act in his car that most guys like a whole lot; and he didn't (even though he considered it) because he didn't want the "expectation" of "having" to follow her home and sleep with her (euphemism for his actual word). It was the first time I heard a guy talk about "doing" a woman as meeting an expectation; most worry the expectations start AFTER they sleep with someone, not "having to do" the act itself.

Seeing as how this individual had been constantly propositioning me before getting it that I was not going there, I couldn't believe that they turned down a person that was offering themselves on a platter (well, in a driver's (passengers') seat) ...


Sounds like you're trying to puff up your own ego at the expense of your friend: "This guy wanted to get his freak on with me, and he kept pestering me, but he wouldn't do my friend even though she offered herself freely to him!" Reading between the lines, you're basically saying that you're desirable, and your friend is a hideous beast...


(from a later post) ^^^she made it VERY clear she wanted a f buddy. Twice a week sex, zero expectations, wham bang thank you ma'am

and she made it very clear she wanted HIM for her f buddy.

So he knew she was not going to pressure for a relationship; she did approach like a man and he is someone who is very highly uh revved so i'd have thought she was his ideal person; (mind you MAYBE some of it was my wanting him to finally quit asking me).

So he was not worried about expectations after sleeping with he.r He literally did not want to sleep with her at all,. He considered letting her uh, service him, but did not want to full on sleep with her at all and thought he would be "leading her on" letting her uh, have her oscar meyer.... when he was not going to have anyone crossing any plates.

I have never heard anything that clinical with it being talked about so graphically... it was kinda surreal.


Yknow, MoonBeamLover, just because you can say something, it doesn't mean that you have to say something. How would your friend like knowing how you were trashing her behind her back?

(with friends like this, who needs enemas?)
 moonbeamlover
Joined: 1/22/2013
Msg: 664
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 10:32:53 AM
^^^nope.

not even REMOTELY what I'm saying. I am desirable to some people and I'm not to others. Same as absolutely anyone else.

She I'm sure was to some, and apparently she wasn't to him, for whatever reason. There are a LOT of factors that make up preference... it has nothing to do ith the desirability of one person; it has to do with the opinion, preference and perception of the beholder. I wish a LOT more people got that, rather than needing validated by what they "need" people to perceive them by. Or thinking a person if people DO desire them, have this need to "feed" it. People don't choose how other people respond to them; they are who they are.

I am saying I don't get how a person SEEMS to sound like they just want to get it on; and then when they have the opportunity they don't, because they consider "f**king" someone an expectation they don't want to fulfill.

That blew my mind.

You can believe what you want. I'm sure you are far from the only person who feels that way. But I could care less if someone desires me or not; it doesn't make me a better or worse person. It just means some people like my type and some don't. If a person desires me? doesnt' make me more desirable. It just means they like what they see. If a person DOESN'T desire me? Doesn't mean I'm less desirable. Means they don't.

SO much assumption around here of arrogance. people really do like believing the worst of other people don't they? makes them feel important I guess...
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/25/2013
Msg: 665
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 10:34:25 AM

(PF) We may be able to get laid whenever we want but its the QUALITY of these men who make the majority of us not even bother.
What's so great about having a neverending supply of undesirable men panting at our feet?


The point is, before you can sift for QUALITY, you have to have QUANTITY. Many men don't have the option of QUANTITY, so they will *NEVER* get to the QUALITY stage of things. It's not unlike panning for gold, in some respects: you have to sift a LOT of gravel and mud before you find that gold nugget.

(I said, "in some respects", because I know that some certain people here would go off on a tangent about how I was calling women muddy gravel... )
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/25/2013
Msg: 666
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 10:40:08 AM
(Moonbeamlover) not even REMOTELY what I'm saying.


I wasn't born last night, and English *IS* my first language...


I am desirable to some people and I'm not to others.


And, you had to point out, in excrutiating detail, how this guy wanted to jump *YOUR* bones, but wouldn't nail your friend.

It's no wonder so many women say they don't like other women for friends -- if they constantly make such snippy, back-biting, b!tchy comments that they then try to pass off as impartial comment (not unlike CNN...), I wouldn't like them for friends, either...
 moonbeamlover
Joined: 1/22/2013
Msg: 667
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 10:50:03 AM
Hey, believe what you want. You're gonna anyways. I was WISHING he took her up on it and was surprised that he didn't. More surprised by how he PUT why he didn't. If you call that excruciating detail, knock yourself. Maybe I should not have put it in there if htat was how it was taken, but that was not the purpose of it.

I love it, you go from women bashing to bashing a woman on behalf of other women.

So being the striving to find the best in people, even though your perception is wrong. It's kinda cool to see you defending women, even if it is is for a flawed reason from a mistaken premise FROM a woman.

Thanks for looking out for women everywhere. Your defense of them (though unnecessary) is appreciated. :)
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/25/2013
Msg: 668
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 11:11:49 AM
^^^ Y'know, moonie, there's a point when, the more you try to "explain it away", the worse it sounds. It's known as "cutting your losses", or more commonly as "knowing when the hell to shut up"...
 Fleuron
Joined: 8/18/2010
Msg: 669
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 11:59:45 AM

It's no wonder so many women say they don't like other women for friends -- if they constantly make such snippy, back-biting, b!tchy comments that they then try to pass off as impartial comment (not unlike CNN...), I wouldn't like them for friends, either...


You are waaaaay out of line here. There was nothing “snippy, back biting, or b itchy” about Moonbeamlover’s posts. She related a story relevant to the thread.

Who are all these imaginary women who say they don’t like other women for friends? That’s just the male delusion that men are at the center of every woman’s universe, just because women are at the center of theirs. Oh well.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 670
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 1:20:42 PM

But I could care less if someone desires me or not; it doesn't make me a better or worse person. It just means some people like my type and some don't. If a person desires me? doesnt' make me more desirable. It just means they like what they see. If a person DOESN'T desire me? Doesn't mean I'm less desirable. Means they don't.

I'll pull this out of the conversation and agree with this. Who's type you are or aren't has nothing to do with who you are or your self worth - it's too random to live by. Most of us are hit on by men because we're not dead, or standing in his path or whatever. It does a person good not to base their overall desirability (whatever that's worth) on who's interested or not at any given moment, it has little to do with anything important.

Perhaps in Moonbeam's case she was more attractive to this particular guy instead of her friend because she was less forward. Who knows. Bottom line is interest changes from person to person - and taking any of it personally or seriously is a bad idea.

And quantity only proceeds quantity at one - after that it's just a bunch of redundant nonsense. Remember the line from the Alanis Morrisette song "Ironic" - "...it's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.."? That's relevant to this thread. If you want a man, and the 100 interested men walking towards you aren't that man - then it's no better than no men walking toward you (unless you value yourself based on who's interested in which case maybe you can convince yourself you're a hot item, but not much else). If I want to play tennis and all I have to work with is 50 footballs, I guess I'm going to have to cancel the match.
 moonbeamlover
Joined: 1/22/2013
Msg: 671
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 2:58:44 PM

You are waaaaay out of line here. There was nothing “snippy, back biting, or b itchy” about Moonbeamlover’s posts. She related a story relevant to the thread.

Who are all these imaginary women who say they don’t like other women for friends? That’s just the male delusion that men are at the center of every woman’s universe, just because women are at the center of theirs. Oh well.


hey thanks for getting the intent Fleuron. I very much appreciate it.


Womaninprogress,


I LOVE that song. And you get it too. Some people online attribute worth to numbers. How many do you talk to. How many message you get. How many dates do you have... when none of it matters. A person can talk to one person in a year, but if that one person is interesting that is a GOOD thing. If a person talks to a thousand and they are all incredibly bad fits, married, looking for quickie hookups, then just having interaction with a thousand does not mean the person is all that; it means the person has wasted a lot of time slogging through the mud. A person's worth is NOT dependent on who does or doesn't appreciate them. Or who finds them attractive or interesting. That's subject, based on the opinions, interpretation and taste of each individual. A person's worth is not dependent on other people's perceptions. But online a lot of people don't get that. And they are angry at their assumptions of other people's entitlement, not getting it is in their own minds only.


(and by the way, there appears to be a misunderstanding in the interpretation of mine. the friend in my case was the guy in question. The woman in question was a woman he met online for the express purpose of hooking up as zero strings FBs. if the WOMAN was my friend, I'd never in a million years have posted what I did on wanting him to get it on with her to leave me alone. I don't do that to friends. In this case though, I did wish he'd get it on with her. Not because I'm this irresistible whatever; there are plenty of people have zero problem resisting me LOL. But because it would finally have him back the heck off. ) She wanted it. He wanted it. They met. But apparently bl** jobs are ok for people you aren't interested in f**king, but not if they think you will "have" to f**k them.

I guess I still have a lot to learn about the way guys think... I still can't believe he turned her down, especially for the why. sc***ing a person is filling an expectation?

I still don't get it.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 672
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 9/28/2013 3:26:21 PM

(and by the way, there appears to be a misunderstanding in the interpretation of mine. the friend in my case was the guy in question. The woman in question was a woman he met online for the express purpose of hooking up as zero strings FBs. if the WOMAN was my friend, I'd never in a million years have posted what I did on wanting him to get it on with her to leave me alone.

Looks like myself and others have to re-read. I missed this as well. So at the end of the day the response you got about bashing a good female friend was completely inaccurate.
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