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 dave402
Joined: 11/26/2008
Msg: 325
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I've seen a gal wearing a tshirt that said " I have the pu$$y, so I make the rules"

So there you go..........
Women generally dictate, whether on the dating scene or in a relationship

I don't understand how going to a prostitute or a call girl has become a viable option on this forum.
Call me a prude, but unless you're in Amsterdam or Las Vegas, it's illegal, and you can get arrested
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 326
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 8/26/2011 5:30:01 AM
While girls you meet out could have something, I don't know, I'd be nervous having sex with a prostitute and her possible diseases.

Perhaps, if you're talking about a streetwalker. If you're talking about a several hundred dollar an hour escort you find through the internet, I'd feel much safer than with a woman I met just for a hookup. Staying in business has a lot to do with playing safe and news on the internet travels fast.

With an escort, it;s just a business, you could be butt ugly to her, and shes just ****ing you because your paying her you know.

It depends on the guy. Escorts are women and if you treat them like women, you might be surprised at how that turns out. The most expensive lunch I've ever had bought for me was bought by two escorts who took me out and picked up a $150.00 lunch tab. Would you be more flattered by a woman who lets you buy her dinner or an escort who buys you lunch or dinner? I've also had two others who wanted to date me, which if you think about sort of dispells your ego argument. It was rather flattering, actually.

And especially if noone else he knows uses escorts or none of his friends do, why would he do it if they don't and he feels hes more attractive than some of his friends or more charming and funnier?

Because he can?

I think there's a lot of pride swallong that has to be done for a non-homely looking man or good looking man with an engaging personlity to get an escort and that man would rather deal with the dry spells or possible dry spells of the dating scene than just get some hooker.

Presumably a guy isn't going to see just ``some hooker.'' My best friend is an escort and not only can she afford to be very picky when it comes to her clients, she gets as much as 1k for an hour and a half. According to her, some of clients are quite good looking and well off. There might be a bar set even in the escort world. I think the real objection to escorts is from guys who've never had an experience with one and their misperceptions of what escorts are really like. It may be a business, but it's a very personal business. If a guy is personable and never forgets that an escort is also a woman, it can very unbusinesslike.

I've seen a gal wearing a tshirt that said " I have the pu$$y, so I make the rules"

So there you go..........
Women generally dictate, whether on the dating scene or in a relationship

I don't understand how going to a prostitute or a call girl has become a viable option on this forum.

Because men could easily make that t-shirt you saw an anachronism by going to escorts for sex instead of scheming to get sex from women who aren't interested in casual sex. Women can get laid easier than men, in general, only because a lot of men let their d!cks rule their lives and put themselves in the position of being controlled by sex. Once you aren't tempted to compromise for the prospect of getting laid, that contol you mention in your first line, disappears.

 SC67
Joined: 6/21/2009
Msg: 328
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 8/26/2011 7:23:08 AM
Ahh...there's the rub. Some men scheme to get casual sex from women who aren't interested in it. If that was taken out of the equation would women believe the men who approach them are more sincere! (Or just unable to afford a pro??) Is it the thrill of convincing a woman to do something you know she wouldn't if she knew the truth?

Obviously the men who read the forums would never do that, right? :)

Bottom line...of the genders...men are usually more willing to relax their standards & don't require as much in the way of getting to know you chatter when they're ready to go. Since women typically want to be able to kid themselves about a man's intentions it takes longer. Therefore...statistically a woman is more likely able to find a man willing to have sex with her at any given moment than a man.
 MutedEnthusiasm
Joined: 7/8/2011
Msg: 329
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 8/26/2011 8:31:47 AM
Since women typically want to be able to kid themselves about a man's intentions it takes longer.

Interesting comment, SC. But why would women want (or need) to kid themselves about a man's intentions? Any thoughts?


Could it be…

Some women need to generate a romantic fantasy in order to fully immerse themselves psychologically/emotionally in the act of sex?

Some women need to generate a romantic fantasy in order to give themselves moral permission to fcuk a guy?

Some women need to generate a fantasy about a man’s intentions in order to justify the act to themselves afterwards (they thought it would lead to love)?

Some women need to reassure themselves afterward that they’re really not “that kind of girl”. And to shift responsibility for their sexual decisions onto the men “who deceived them”?

And I hasten to add that some men – likely fewer than women – probably need to do the same, for similar reasons.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 330
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 8/26/2011 8:58:49 AM
Don't glorify prostitution, abelian.

Can you point out where I did that?

It's not all fun and handsome clients and great sex and choice.

Neither is handling toxic waste or any number of other jobs that pay far less and provide poorer working conditions. You're trying to lump all forms of prostitution into one pile when that just isn't the way it works. No job is all fun and games. I never said it was all handsome clients and great sex. You're deliberately misconstruing what I said.

Don't tell me that all a guy has to do is act like a normal human being and the woman he's paying for sex will start to have real orgasms.

No need to worry about that. I wouldn't necessarily believe any other woman when she claims to have an orgasm, either. Women always tell guys what guys want to hear, so I'm not sure what point there would be to worrying about it, no matter who it is.

It's a purchase that involves a very physically intimate act and humans aren't robots.

I'm not sure where you think I said they were or what prostitution has to do with robots.

Some men scheme to get casual sex from women who aren't interested in it. If that was taken out of the equation would women believe the men who approach them are more sincere!

People always are more sincere when there's no incentive to not be sincere. It's easy to test that theory just by seeing how people react differently depending on their perception of what they think you want to hear when you ask them a question. The way a person feels he/she will be judged for giving a particular answer ha a lot to do wiith the answer you'll get to a question. Woman will almost always say, ``You're the biggest and best,'' to whomever her current bf happens to be, to stroke his ego, whether it's true or not or doesn't matter.

Bottom line...of the genders...men are usually more willing to relax their standards & don't require as much in the way of getting to know you chatter when they're ready to go.

I don't think it's just men nor all men. I'd never sleep with a woman I didn't find attractive enough to date, for example. I'm just not turned on by such women. Perhaps many men do, but women wouldn't get played if they didn't relax some standards in favor of others, too. Looks and charm often take precedence of other behaviour that would deep six a less attractive and less charming guy. I'm not even all that attractive andcharming, but it has never taken very long to have sex with a woman. Had I not really intended to keep dating women I've slept with, there was nothing else to assure them I'd hang around for a third (and sometimes second) date. I can't really say what standards they were holding apart from me being just attractive and charming enough.

 SC67
Joined: 6/21/2009
Msg: 331
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 8/26/2011 9:56:48 AM
The reasons women use to convince themselves are varied, but you've covered most of them. Not many women want to wake up one day & realize they're in several mixed up relationships & not getting what they want from any of them. Ha...yes...I have been there so I'm not just standing in judgement of others! That's when the lightbulb came on & I jumped on the "they should just pay a pro & leave me out of it" train.

I'm definitely not saying all men are this & all women are that. There are always exceptions. That said, I think it's silly to deny basic human nature...men hunt & women gather. It may have been in a man's best interest to spread his seed & in a woman's best interest to pick the best provider & stick with him. So...easier for a woman to get laid & easier for a man to find a woman willing to have him provide. There's a reason there are loads of posts about men being dogs & women being golddiggers.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 332
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 8/26/2011 3:52:28 PM

Except for a few things there. While it maybe be convenient getting an escort and the $ spent might not be much different than $ spent on a date or so. And it allows sex without dating and no strings attached, etc. But the thing is, while this seems to be the answer for men who just want sex, I'm not sure that it is, even for men who just want to hook up and for a couple of reasons. I never had an escort nor ever plan to. But back on topic of a couple reasons I think an escort is an unattractive option to some guys and understandably. While girls you meet out could have something, I don't know, I'd be nervous having sex with a prostitute and her possible diseases. Yes a regular girl can and do. but thats why i dont just go and have sex or one night stand with random girls, I try to have an idea about the type of gir I'm with. And prostitutes are having sex with various guys but not only that, some real skeezy, dirtball guys and men from all types of like. So even tho the escort may have proctection, still, I'd be weary and I'm sure other guys feel the same way.

If you're paying enough - you're going to be dealing with cleaner women. Escorts are going to be very careful about protecting and testing themselves. The less you want to pay, naturally, the more risk you take.

Another issue and a big issue is "ego". I think a lot of guys, especially ones that maybe just be in a rut and know they dont need help and are attractive, would rather deal with dry spells than get an escort and easy sex. The reason being is because, I believe men just like women, like to be desired you know. With an escort, it;s just a business, you could be butt ugly to her, and shes just ****ing you because your paying her you know. So nothing to feel great about, whereas, usually if you meet a girl out somewhere and she becomes interested in you from convo and you go out on a date and it leads to sex, she obviously finds you attractive and desirable, or else she wouldnt have had dates which led to sex obviously. So guys like to know that they attracted a girl and she desires him and its genuine, a prostitute having sex with you doesn't mean anything as far as your sex appeal. Its like how girl bartenders can flirt with a guy at a bar to get good tips,, she doesn't like him, shes just doing it to get the $. I think its the combo for guys, yeah the sex, but also I guess the ego stroke. Even if a man doesn't like to chase and risk rejection, I think he prefers attracting a girl, especially if he feels he is attractive, and guys are proud of their charm and personality and looks and i think like the whole impressing, charming girls, except for the $ on dates thing that leads to no sex.

When it comes to ego, my simple answer is "get over it". Do you want to get laid, or what? If you'd rather not have sex if it's not about someone wanting you - then stop trying to land sex. If you want it, you won't care who it's about. So it's more like a transaction. Don't tell me guys are going to argue there's no romance in it? Pffft. There are a lot of men who are fine with it not being personal to the woman involved. This is no different. For the right amount of money, it's a sure thing. Who cares if some woman you'll never see again wanted you or the profit? Get over yourself.

But it's a trade off, but in the end I think these are reasons how even though getting a prostitute would provide the sex and without the hassle. It neglects two big things, disease and ego. It can seem like giving up or defeat for man to resort to that.

I say that's a BS mindset. Disease is a realistic worry, but if you're picky enough about where you buy your product, it's a non issue. Ego is a really stupid reason to do or not do a lot of things for a man or woman. I say it's a silly thing to even factor in. Put it aside, and do what you want to do. Trust me, no one's really paying that much attention to what you're doing.
 sign4me17
Joined: 9/2/2011
Msg: 334
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/3/2012 11:48:56 PM
Why is this even up for debate? Of course women can get laid anytime they want. Is society really this politically correct?

Any woman, regardless of size, age, education, income, etc, can get laid if they try. I challenge every man and woman who reads this to change your profile to "intimate encounter", and post the number of messeges you get by the end of the first week. Every woman will have at least 50 messeges, while every man will have absolutely no messeges.

Seriously, I hope we stop being so pc as a society. A spade is a spade, and women can get laid anytime they want. That's not bitterness talking; that's reality.
 ladyc4
Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 335
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/4/2012 8:00:26 AM

Don't glorify prostitution, abelian.
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Can you point out where I did that?
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It's not all fun and handsome clients and great sex and choice.
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Neither is handling toxic waste


Sorry, but I HAVE to make the observation that this is -to say the least-an INTERESTING choice of comparisons...

To the OT
Yes, women and men can BOTH get laid whenever they want if they have minimal standards as far as the object of their attention.
Unfortunately, for a large part of modern western society, there still tends to be those ancient instincts about reproduction, survival and propagation of the species that cause both men and women to impose standards, which of course can vary from person to person.
Cindy O
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 337
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/4/2012 5:04:37 PM
There's a hooker in every price range. With the exception of it being illegal in parts of the US (and I get that), there's no reason a guy can't afford or consider it.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 339
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/4/2012 6:51:20 PM
^^^You forgot to tell me why that is...? I'm sure the prices are anywhere from $10 to $10,000 depending on where you look. Granted the lower end of the scale isn't the most desirable bunch, but sex is sex, no? If it were legal, trust me, more would go that route.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 342
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/4/2012 7:22:18 PM

@WIP: I don't care if I had gone years without sex. I would not go down and hit the red light district...Not even if it were legal.

Fair enough; some don't place that much importance on sex, and that's actually a much better mindset. I'm really directing the hooker thing to men who complain they can't have sex or feel they have to go without. Paying for it pretty much evens it out for men who want to be able to get laid as often as they think most women can.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 343
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/4/2012 7:37:15 PM

Abelian: I'm not being snarky, just curious, but does your fiance know you have female friends that are escorts?

She knows.

How does she feel about that

Since I haven't had sex with escorts who are friends, she feels the same way she'd feel about any other female friends.

and how did you meet them?

Through escorts who weren't friends.
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 345
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/5/2012 10:43:33 PM
this is totally untrue! women can't just walk out the door and get laid. this is such you-know-what.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 346
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/6/2012 6:19:28 AM

Abelian - Your fiance sounds like a great woman!

She has to be to put up with me.

Oh and if you know any male escorts could you send 'em my way? My highschool reunion is coming up and I need a hot date

www.malecourtesan.com
 Picelli
Joined: 12/27/2011
Msg: 349
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/6/2012 8:42:55 PM
Humor moment warning:

So, I guess I'd better head out to the bar.

Hold it - I have to volunteer at Church early tomorrow morning... better wait till tomorrow night.

Got it.
 Me - Version 2.010
Joined: 1/19/2010
Msg: 350
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/6/2012 8:49:58 PM
I don't know if it's just women....I mean yeah, being a guy I would agree that women can get laid literally whenever they want to..thats because no matter how unattractive she is there will always be a guy willing to hit that...men are really weird and sometimes gross creatures..... that being said, (and im not trying to brag here) but sex is so readily available that I have to sometimes take a hiatus to it (no im not gay), but it gets tiring... I think its easier for me to find a "FCUK" than it is to find someone to have a meaning and intellectual conversation with..and im not even going to start on making love... sex is there..for both men and women..its a matter of knowing how to set yourself up for it..I consider myself a POF guru/legend if you will..i've brought friends to this site, guided them, showed them the ropes, and they are no longer young grasshoppers..but praying mantises...

sex is always but a phone call away for me..perhaps cuz i've set it up so..perhaps it really does have to do with me...or perhaps im just the luckiest guy in the world..but whatever it is... i'm sure that I am not the only one..not the first nor the last!

and yes.... any woman can get laid whenever she wants.... and some men (me included) too!

 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 351
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 12:11:06 AM

Humor moment warning:

So, I guess I'd better head out to the bar.

Hold it - I have to volunteer at Church early tomorrow morning... better wait till tomorrow night.

Got it



Actually you'll probably find someone to "oblige" you there too as well.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 352
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 1:11:17 AM
yep women CAN get sex anytime they want.

just as men CAN get a gf anytime he wants..

YET

both genders have standards.
 ilovehistory
Joined: 8/12/2009
Msg: 353
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Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 1:20:12 AM

just as men CAN get a gf anytime he wants..

YET

both genders have standards.


Have to disagree with you there. I know several men who cannot get a girlfriend, and never will be able to, because they have absolutely nothing to offer even the most desperate woman. Even those women have standards, and some men do not meet them.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
Msg: 354
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 1:33:04 AM
^^^^ok ya.....there are always LOSERS on BOTH ends of the SIN curve...
 _allen_
Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 355
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Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 3:29:08 AM
I beg to disagree with the topic. I don't believe women can get laid whenever they want. I've been propositioned many time before and have declined their advances.

I believe the sexual battlefield are equal for women as they are for men. I know some of the most beautiful women ever, who couldn't pay to get a date, and these are some beautiful women. Just as I know some wildly handsome guys who have to hardest time getting women to even look their way.

ON A SIDE NOTE: What I'm confused about is, very average looking guys who dates and/or married to beautiful women. I don't know. I'm finally opening my eyes to this but over the past few months, I'm noticing couples like this. Boggles my mind
 weirdotool
Joined: 12/29/2011
Msg: 359
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Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 3:01:14 PM
I think the trick here is that while yes, it is true that 99.99% of women could, within 24 hours, easily get laid if they put any sort of motivation to the task. But if "laid" simply means getting a penis inserted into them, most women will take a pass on that.

The catch is that women attach a significantly bigger bouquet of emotions to sex. Most men do realize this, but have a hard time actually comprehending the ramifications. A lot of women can't even get AROUSED without that emotional connection. Without it, they might as well not even bother. Now if you are thinking that one-night stands at a meat market are an exception to this, you would be wrong in my opinion. People can develop a basic emotional attachment within even a few minutes if their first impression of chatting with them is a good one.

On the other side of the coin, I hate that men are portrayed as these mindless beasts with no emotional component to sex whatsoever. I don't like the idea of women thinking of us this way because it's not true. It's more like this......

Think of women as social drinkers and men as hardcore, degenerate alcoholics. The social drinkers don't really get much out of being buzzed unless there are other people around to have fun and experience it with. The hardcore alcoholics would PREFER to have this, and enjoy it even more that way. They like it better if they are drinking their favorite****ail/microbrew/fine scotch with good company, but they'll TAKE pabst blue ribbon at home while watching dexter, because their addiction (higher testosterone sex drive) is just that much stronger biologically.
 weirdotool
Joined: 12/29/2011
Msg: 360
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:03:26 PM
Ha, won't let me say c_ 0cktail
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 361
Can women REALLY get laid whenever they want?
Posted: 1/7/2012 6:02:58 PM

Yes; it's true. There will always be women who pretend to be oblivious to the power they hold, but anyone with a semi-functioning intellect knows the deal.

I guess it's not so much I pretend to be oblivious to it as I just think it's silly.

I like dealing with people on even ground and this is an imbalance that I don't create, so I'd rather ignore it. I think if men look at it this way, they create it.

Some of us feel we didn't ask for it and don't want to deal with it. If I have power over you, do you not give me that power to some extent? Of course. And if so, why is that? Bottom line? Blech, just don't give it to me, I don't want it. Leave me out of it.
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