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 LindaLou58
Joined: 9/22/2009
Msg: 151
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Yes, totally agree! I think that someone who needs to preface nearly every danged email with how wonderful they are and look, it's a warning flag for sure.

I remember the first date I had on POF nearly 4 yrs ago........the man described himself as 50-ish, and athletic, and in reality, he was 62 and approx. 75 lbs overweight! We met at a restaurant, and we had to go from a booth to a table because the booth would not accommodate his stomach!

C'mon.

Honesty is always the best policy, and age takes a toll on everyone to some degree or the other.
 cin____dy
Joined: 8/21/2011
Msg: 152
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Posted: 10/18/2011 4:59:30 PM
They are good at the "con". Usually talk so highly of themselves and about what they are going to do or do for them.
There are lots of cons, some con women, some con family, some con voters etc. etc.. They have this charm and charisma of reading people and know what it is you want to hear.
 LindaLou58
Joined: 9/22/2009
Msg: 153
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Posted: 10/19/2011 8:31:16 AM
LOL..........you are right, I never did consider the Herculean effort it took, he was a bit out of breath by the time he arranged himself in the chair!

I know that women are guilty of the (little?) white lies, I hear it all the time from the men on this site....how women take 'glamour shots' of themselves, or put up old pics and what not, but why resort to these things?

The minute someone sees that you were not being truthful, well, I think anyone wouldn't like it, and I'd never expect a relationship to go anywhere with a dishonest start!

Now, I'd like to throw in another example, but this time, it was me who was very hurt.....when I opened an acct here on POF 4 yrs ago, I was heavier......and I did put "a few extra pounds" on my profile and mentioned within the body of the description that I was a larger woman.

So, I meet a man that I had communicated with for 2 months, giving him regular reminders that I was in no way thin. ..................I will never forget the look on his face.....and the quickness in which he ended the date.........This guy wanted a thin woman. He wasn't reading my profile or messages, apparently.

Thing is, this sucker was definately NOT athletic as he described himself....he had a beer gut. I will say that as much as this example hurt, and it hurt like hell, it did spur me on to lose weight.

Unfortunately, appearances are everything when you are meeting someone in this way.
 galaxxy
Joined: 6/11/2010
Msg: 154
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Posted: 10/19/2011 8:50:01 AM
to each their own is a bone to be told. truth is in the eye of the stone. bitter , undefined, and cold.

ones beuty may be ones fear.

mind if i lick your crooked yellow toe nail as we make love?
 gentleplus
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 155
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Posted: 10/19/2011 9:01:16 AM
When someone is too pretty or too rich or too famous ... it is more of a distraction to themselves and those around them who seek relationship.....

Those relationships tend to be based on the looks, money, fame, etc... the person who has these qualities man or woman... does not have the need or desire to develop character, spirituality, and balance.. etc... in their lives....

As these outward qualities fade over time... those who have relied mostly on them to survive often find they are bankrupt emotionally or literally and can no longer exist in the previous plastic life.... for many in Hollywood you see in this cycle where the outcomes are often tragic and destructive through drugs suicide or other behaviors...

Linda as you say photos on profiles are often deceptive..... as you have turned a negative into a positive life choice as well.... one of my flags on profiles is when photos are only face shots and exclude a picture of a person in a standing position as well....

I am just saying it makes me often wonder whats happening with that.... So I tend to avoid those unable to make a reasonable disclosure in their photos....

For me a more average woman tends to be more mature, balanced and healthy than those in the high end of looks
 Honnieberrie
Joined: 6/21/2011
Msg: 156
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Posted: 10/19/2011 11:56:25 AM
I am not quite sure but there' s a lot of good fun in enjoying one's company without the use of so many monetary things to rely on.....Being able to enjoy another person within the simplicities of life is rare...and to do that is intriguing.....!!!
 ronosaurus
Joined: 7/22/2007
Msg: 157
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Posted: 10/19/2011 4:34:30 PM
@OP
"Handsome men and women often appear to be blessed with lucky lives. Now research has shown they are cleverer than most people as well."

The statement above is quoted from the web site below.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1347651/Attractive-people-higher-IQs-Beauty-brains-DO-together.html


One reader of the above article commented:
"Make yourself as good as you can be and get yourself as much education and learning as you can. You will be the person who keeps a partner interested and has friends, you will be a much better person and you will have a full and rich life and it will not matter how you look."

Bright, beautiful and grounded in reality can be a winning combination.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 158
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Posted: 10/19/2011 4:55:12 PM
You cannot predict who will find whom good looking, so you can't tell by someone's looks as to what they are looking for. Yes there are some decent studies that say people tend to look for the same as themselves, but again, that still depends on how they view themselves, which may not be any where near what others think of their looks or their prospects. I do not know why people keep spouting cliches and saying this person is like this or that, you will never know them unless you get to know them.

And that doesn't mean you should get to know everyone, obviously if they turn you off by their physical appearance or their actions right off then there's no need to go further. But to jump to conclusions and live by cliches is going to be your loss, not the loss of those you make assumptions about. Some people are turned on by defects, like a woman I know who loves men with crooked teeth, another who loves big bellies, both of them are very attractive women and slim w/ nice teeth, and yeah the so-called better looking guys can get upset about it, thinking why would these attractive (to them) women want these 'ugly' guys. Because they don't see ugly guys, they feel attraction/arousal from being around these men. You simply cannot predict attraction.

If a man is attracted to a type of size or shape that I do not have and am not going to have, why would I waste my time beating my head against a wall whining about or bashing the women who look different/better than me? That's insane. I'm not looking to make a man want me, I'm quite happy going out with men who like me as I am. People could save themselves a lot of grief and being foolish if they just accepted themselves and as is and not try to get those who don't want them. Then again, some people get off on challenges, and more power to them. Just stop whining about it.
 LindaLou58
Joined: 9/22/2009
Msg: 159
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Posted: 10/19/2011 7:11:20 PM
gentleplus, I do understand the need to see a full body pic, before you meet someone, and I do provide one when asked.........I'm not hiding a thing, I look much better then.......well, in fact then I ever did!

I'm proud of my accomplishment in losing a lot of weight and keeping it off for nearly 4 yrs. Thing is, I get crazy enough questions with only shots of me from the shoulders on up, so that's why I send a pic privately.

I just hate that it took a crappy date with a dumpy man to motivate me once and for all, to do something about myself. I hate to give him any credit you know??

But I still can see the look on his very average face when he saw me. .....
 ronsfishing64
Joined: 9/11/2011
Msg: 160
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Posted: 10/19/2011 11:12:33 PM
well said...

but then I find the ones that enjoy being charmed are married more than someone who is single... and that brings me here... with no success, and... which makes me a whiner, not a charmer... lol
 _shakti_
Joined: 7/5/2011
Msg: 161
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Posted: 10/19/2011 11:29:37 PM
Don:
do you know that prettyn woman are the most insecure creatures in the face of the earth, so we used thar against them easy really you bring a defect that she has or she thing she has and that it she will look for your aprubal always asking if is going or if it is better i have sleep with woman way out of my leage ussing this
Lol.. I'm guessing you have better luck with this in real life?
 Ailliss
Joined: 3/16/2010
Msg: 162
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Posted: 10/20/2011 1:51:20 AM

thing is guys are so afraid of asking this woman out for been afraid of rejection, guys like your friend play the adds and belive me the adds are in his side i guaranteed you if you ask 100 good looking girls out 10 are going to say yes and thouse ten girls is what you see trust me i know


Delusions are not obvious to the deluded.


is no con is just been human for example you are atrctive smart if a charmin man aproach you and tell you what you want to hear who's fault i guaranteed that u will tell him who's you ideal man with outrelisined and then at then at the end of the night he becomes that is jus nedd a bit of attention from the guy to the guys out ther listeng what woman say don't move your head and tuned them out

Would you mind translating this to English?
 VacationGuy234
Joined: 8/1/2008
Msg: 163
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Posted: 10/25/2011 5:41:37 AM

I have to agree. These guys are manipulators. They are not just good people with pleasant personalities, etc. If they were, they would not be honing in only on the beautiful people. They are users. They use these women to stroke their own egos. They are con artists.


I disagree. Just because a guy likes beautiful women, and has to be better at dating to get one, it does not mean he is using someone. In addition, not all beautiful women are damaged in the sense they feel they have to be beautiful and some even use their beauty to manipulate men. I think, in the case of the men you describe, it does not matter whether the women are beautiful because that is not what they are after.
 1234deleted1234
Joined: 10/8/2009
Msg: 164
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Posted: 10/25/2011 7:25:47 AM
I have a question...IF Guy A wants sex and gives Girl B:
Attention
Money
Stuff

SO WHAT? Aren't they BOTH getting what they want of their own free will?

Same as:

IF Woman A wants sex and gives Guy B:
Attention
Money
Stuff

Again, so what?

We all have our needs and compromises! we all are adults and make our own choices!
If you think you've been "PLAYED" then either you wanted something and didn't get it, ASSUMED instead of communicated or your picker is bad....learn something from it and change how you do things...crying about it doesn't solve the problem and complaining about it won't change it!

You can only change yourself...not others.

Also, whatever you find unacceptable might be longed for by someone else and vise-versa!
 good_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 165
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Posted: 10/25/2011 7:41:40 AM

I have to agree. These guys are manipulators. They are not just good people with pleasant personalities, etc. If they were, they would not be honing in only on the beautiful people. They are users. They use these women to stroke their own egos. They are con artists.


What about the good looking women? Are they con artists too? Esp if they decided to date down? DO these "hotties" of either gender stroke their own ego?

Needless to say I disagree with said generalized statement.


I disagree. Just because a guy likes beautiful women, and has to be better at dating to get one, it does not mean he is using someone. In addition, not all beautiful women are damaged in the sense they feel they have to be beautiful and some even use their beauty to manipulate men. I think, in the case of the men you describe, it does not matter whether the women are beautiful because that is not what they are after


I agree with vacationguy ^^^^^

This is so true, yes I have met some women (and men) that are so into themselves they never met a mirror they didn't like. But I've also met some awesome people that just happened to be hot.

For the longest time I was (and sometimes still) jealous of said jock looking dudes. They're workout maniacs and they know how to play the game, and yes they sure know how to c0ck bl0ck you. You're game is flawless you almost have the girl and in comes in dude with biceps bigger than your head. Flat stomach and a face to match....well there goes that hottie....So I often said that they must be superficial anyways since the look is more important than anything. I don't care anymore now it speaks volumes. I know I'm no Hollywood hunk and don't claim to be but if muscles is what the woman wants then she can have at it....
 totalazzhole
Joined: 3/27/2011
Msg: 166
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Posted: 10/25/2011 7:53:30 AM

Don:
do you know that prettyn woman are the most insecure creatures in the face of the earth, so we used thar against them easy really you bring a defect that she has or she thing she has and that it she will look for your aprubal always asking if is going or if it is better i have sleep with woman way out of my leage ussing this
Lol.. I'm guessing you have better luck with this in real life?


well, that's what 'dating gurus' such s "David deAngelo" advise anyway--been reading a lot of websites/e-maisl lately, Don?

not sure that works so well in real life though..else, Don-- why are you on POF if you have this down so well??
 Revilors
Joined: 10/9/2008
Msg: 167
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Posted: 10/25/2011 8:20:31 AM

Winter: I have to agree. These guys are manipulators. They are not just good people with pleasant personalities, etc. If they were, they would not be honing in only on the beautiful people. They are users. They use these women to stroke their own egos. They are con artists.


Was a direct and quoted reply to...


Don:
do you know that prettyn woman are the most insecure creatures in the face of the earth, so we used thar against them easy really you bring a defect that she has or she thing she has and that it she will look for your aprubal always asking if is going or if it is better i have sleep with woman way out of my leage ussing this


I don't always agree with Winter...but honestly I don't know how you can disagree with calling that manipulative. It's practically paraphrasing Webster. She didn't say men who prefer beautiful woman are manipulators. Just those that...well...are obvious and admitted manipulators.

Quite frankly...I give her credit for deciphering his attitude from the gibberish in the "bachelors" post.
 OutMind
Joined: 2/13/2007
Msg: 168
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Posted: 10/25/2011 8:59:27 AM

I disagree. Just because a guy likes beautiful women, and has to be better at dating to get one, it does not mean he is using someone. In addition, not all beautiful women are damaged in the sense they feel they have to be beautiful and some even use their beauty to manipulate men. I think, in the case of the men you describe, it does not matter whether the women are beautiful because that is not what they are after


I agree with vacationguy ^^^^^


I also agree with this statement. I also agree that not all beautiful women are damaged goods. I have seen damaged goods and big chips in women that were not as beautiful or that simply gave up. We all have lived, we all have been dumped for someone else. Instead of giving up, these women, as well as men perhaps don't give up, and keep going.

Also about the statement that men that go after beautiful women are manipulators is totally ridiculous. You go for what you like, and if you get it, then why go elsewhere?
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 169
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Posted: 10/25/2011 9:14:08 AM
We all have our needs and compromises! we all are adults and make our own choices!
If you think you've been "PLAYED" then either you wanted something and didn't get it, ASSUMED instead of communicated or your picker is bad....learn something from it and change how you do things...crying about it doesn't solve the problem and complaining about it won't change it!

You can only change yourself...not others.

Also, whatever you find unacceptable might be longed for by someone else and vise-versa!

The minute we get naked with someone, we become two things: 1) a willing participant to the actions; 2) risk-taker. There is always a chance it is just sex and there is also always the possibility of something different than that. No one makes those decisions for us. I don't quite understand those of either gender who feel "used." Smooth talking isn't what tells us about someone ~ it's their actions that inform us "who" they are. If one isn't certain of anothers intentions? Don't have sex and see where it goes from there. The future actions will speak very loudly in a short matter of time if someone isn't looking for more than physicality.

~OT~ What's beautiful to one man can be just the opposite to another. I don't see any logical correlation between men and ONLY relating to beautiful women. "Beautiful" is a very subjective term. JMO
 totalazzhole
Joined: 3/27/2011
Msg: 170
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Posted: 10/25/2011 9:26:33 AM

I don't think anyone is talking about ALL beautiful women. I certainly am not. But women who fall for the manipulations of these guys, for whatever reason.....those are the women I am talking about.


so we are supposed to be all concerned about why other people (strangers to us) make their decisions?

oh good lord, I am too busy with my own problems, to worry about the problems of 'beautiful, damaged women being manipulated by 'ugly' men"

It appears that many people are not -too much free time I can only assume

start a "Save the Beautiful Women From Themselves" campaign?

OR: a "Save the Beautiful Women From Ugly, Manipulating Men"

only problem : what color will the WRISTBANDS to our show support , be ??

most of the 'cool colors' are already TAKEN! :(
 totalazzhole
Joined: 3/27/2011
Msg: 171
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Posted: 10/25/2011 9:34:43 AM
and why does it 'matter'? just nosy? curious about other people's lives? OK I get it, some people are bored with their own lives & need the drama from other people's

it's OK to admit it, not pretend to have some 'intellectual" curiosity lol

or maybe OP is confused as to why men go after 'beautiful' women, rather than women..like her?
is it yet another "why can't *I* get a date" thread? lol "they" do, why not "me" ?
 good_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 172
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Posted: 10/25/2011 8:05:01 PM
Outmind ~


Also about the statement that men that go after beautiful women are manipulators is totally ridiculous. You go for what you like, and if you get it, then why go elsewhere?


Yeah if I got something I always wanted why would I give it up? Unless it was for a valid reason like cheating, lying, etc...the usual red flags, then I wouldn't want to give it up.

It's almost like saving up your whole lifetime for that 66' Corvette Stingray. You finally get it and then you give it away....why would you do that?

Edit: I don't know about everyone else but I'm also not giving up a relationship with someone just because of a stupid stereotype...that would be me giving into a double standard because I've been stereotyped my entire life....
 cali_76
Joined: 10/18/2011
Msg: 173
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Posted: 10/26/2011 12:35:44 AM
No rocket science involved..women do the same thing. See a pic, read a profile and either feel it or don't. Dating sites can be fun--meet lots of men/women. But to answer her question..why give a man/woman that much influence over deciding whose good looking enough? And if even for a second if the guy/girl is not what one wants--and manners are key--then don't waste time wondering--remember, "plenty of fish"
 Zephyr2553
Joined: 12/28/2008
Msg: 174
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Posted: 12/3/2012 8:47:30 AM
TALL-IQ2....lol...how did you know about "Olga"? You are SOOO right! I'd like to know more. Where did you get your info? Could you que me in, a book, video?
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
Msg: 175
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:39:15 PM
Mae West : "A man's desire is women, a woman's desire...is man's desire!"

Maybe these "attractive" woman focus on being desirable and therefor pursue the same men who have the knack of making woman feel desirable, down pat?
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