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 BalderDog2
Joined: 1/6/2011
Msg: 176
On Wisconsin.Page 8 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)

what do you think the effect of this defeat


Democracy is done now for the United States. As we can see, fifty million dollars can buy you a Governor. It helps if you have an electorate of which 50+% are morons.

Kneel now before your wealthy owners, Knight--because they do own you, like a piece of property. It surprises me how many people are so willing to take such a subordinate roll for themselves, advocating on behalf of their wealthy masters as if kneeling and groveling at their masters feet might earn them the favor of an extra bowlful of swill.
 PGL7
Joined: 8/7/2010
Msg: 177
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 7:58:25 PM
Someone please check on the Dogs house and make sure there is no Kool Ade.
So much hate on the left.
Everyone with a difference of opinion is a moron.

Remember what started this.
The privileged public service unions were asked to contribute to their own pensions.
Imagine that... I am in the private sector and I pay into mine.
And my generous company matches my contribution and and kicks in another 30%.
But I get nothing if I don't first contribute.

The tax payers of Wisconsin have won a huge battle here and now the entire country is poised for victory.
 BalderDog2
Joined: 1/6/2011
Msg: 178
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 8:47:15 PM

The tax payers of Wisconsin have won a huge battle here and now the entire country is poised for victory.


The tax payers of Wisconsin--those who voted for Walker, that is--should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done to their children and grandchildren, today. They have sold their children out for the right to kneel and grovel in the dirt and muck of their master's/owner's feet. If they are lucky, for what they have done today, their owners might allow the children of those who worship them a few extra moldy bits if cheese; but those children will toss that gift aside and later they will gather at their parents and grandparents gravesides and they will remember how foolish and easily bamboozled their parents and grandparents were, they were see their own sick and hungry children, and they will look up at the golden palaces on the hill where the wealthy live and then down at the slums were the wealthy allow them to live, and then they will spit on their parent's and grandparent's graves for selling them out, and then they will go home to the lives of servitude their parents have given them and they will prepare for another day of cleaning the toilets of those castles up on the hill.
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 179
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 8:52:32 PM
Did my part and voted bright and early today! For Walker/Kleefisch of course.

What a great day. I love it! Finally this is all over and when the dust has all settled the Dems overall wins were what? A mere 2 State Senate seats that brought the State Senate to a 17-16 near even split. But that of course should change for the best this fall!

Maybe if the Libs would have beat on them drums just a little louder. Maybe....

Wisconsin is Walker Country!
 PGL7
Joined: 8/7/2010
Msg: 180
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 8:57:12 PM

If they are lucky, for what they have done today, their owners might allow the children of those who worship them a few extra moldy bits if cheese; but those children will toss that gift aside and later they will gather at their parents and grandparents gravesides and they will remember how foolish and easily bamboozled their parents and grandparents were, they were see their own sick and hungry children, and they will look up at the golden palaces on the hill where the wealthy live and then down at the slums were the wealthy allow them to live, and then they will spit on their parent's and grandparent's graves for selling them out, and then they will go home to the lives of servitude their parents have given them and they will prepare for another day of cleaning the toilets of those castles up on the hill.



Gee not much hyperbole there.
Not to mention a terribly long winded run on sentence.

I am sure the next generations will thank Walker for removing the debt that would have been their burden.
With the debt removed small business owners and corporations can start creating new jobs in the state as they are now looking at a more competitive atmosphere.

It was disgusting that this recall happened in the first place and now its righted.
Bitterness and resentment as shown on here is so childish.
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 181
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 9:07:34 PM
It's pointless to waste breath, time, and energy in a futile attempt to hold a rational discussion with these Socialist / Progressive / Marxist / union thug types. You get nowhere doing that. The only rational way to deal with these people isn't to attempt to have a 'dialogue' with them or to try to get them to consider the opposite point of view ... the only rational way to deal with these people is to defeat them.

Thank you again, Scott Walker and Rebecca Kleefisch ...
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 182
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On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 9:13:05 PM
Scott Walker won the recall now move on already.

 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 183
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 9:14:01 PM
It was great to see Barrett have his arse handed to him a 2nd time! The silent Majority spoke tonight. Case closed.

Anyone know What the difference between a puppy and a liberal is? A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

I so wish I would not have gotten rid of my cable over a year ago. Cuz right now I'd love, just love to tune into MSNBC.

Post 217-It helps if you have an electorate of which 50+% are morons.

Do you need a kleenex?
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
Msg: 184
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On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/5/2012 11:49:04 PM
I hear the sound of leftists moaning--music to the ears of anyone who loves freedom. They will have lots more to moan about soon.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 185
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 5:30:33 AM
Do you need a kleenex?

Nope, but the citizens of Wisconsin will to try and clean up the mess Walker has created.

This guy give tax breaks to corporations and guts your educational system, and you guys are celebrating, so either you hate kids and their future or you love corporations taking it away from you and or you are not smart enough to see what was just done.

Congratulations on your fail.
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
Msg: 186
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On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 6:03:05 AM
This is an interesting story about the placement of electronically programmed voting machines throughout Wisconsin, programmed by a person of dubious integrity, without a suffcient review process.

http://wcmcoop.com/members/meet-command-central-the-people-in-charge-of-wisconsin-voting-machines/

snip..

And who is Sue Wahl-Storbeck and should we trust her with our voting machines?

In 2007, Sue Wahl-Storbeck filed suit against a former employer and the Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development for disqualifying her from receiving unemployment benefits because she had been fired. The company, ACS Enterprise Solutions, claims that in 2005, Wahl-Storbeck refused to take the annual ethics exam that was required for employment with ACS. She claimed the organization was so dysfunctional that it was “hypocritical” to take the test. She lost both her original case and the appeal. “Because each refusal to take the ethics exam was intentional conduct that displayed clearly Storbeck’s refusal to comply with ACS’s reasonable request, her actions do not constitute a single incident under Minn. Stat. § 268.095, subd. 6(a). Accordingly, the ULJ properly determined that Storbeck is disqualified from receiving unemployment benefits because she was discharged for employment misconduct.”

This is the woman who has control over the programming of 3,000 voting machines in 46 districts in the State of Wisconsin.

Sue Wahl-Storbeck programs the software for 3,000 voting machines in Wisconsin.

Regardless of her achievements, whenever anyone is given the sole responsibility to program our voting machines, we are placing the vitality of our entire democracy in their hands.

Forty-six Wisconsin counties and 3,000 voting machines are being controlled by a two-person company operating out of a strip mall in Minnesota.

By law, voting machines must be publicly tested prior to every election. A Programmable Read Only Memory (P.R.O.M.) pack or cartridge is used to reprogram the machines with the details of the current election. Clerks receive two PROM packs from Command Central: A PRE-LAT, which is used a week or so before the election for the public test, and an “Official” pack used on Election Day. Whoever programs the PROM packs has the ability to inject all the machines with a virus that will flip votes only on Election Day. With two different PROM packs in play, it’s easy to see how public tests could be flawless and the machines could still flip votes Election Day.

In his report of his experience with the November 2010 gubernatorial election for Scott Walker, John Washburn, an election integrity investigator and professional software tester for almost 20 years, states, “I have been to dozens of voting system test sessions and have never seen any of this faux ‘testing’ actually test the voting system software correctly. This is the professional opinion of a software tester testing software since 1994.”

Washburn also filed an open records request with Command Central to examine the PROM packs from the July 15, 2011 recall election in wards 1-4 in Fox Point. When they responded that it would cost him $450, Washburn filed a complaint alleging that Command Central LLC wasn’t cooperative in responding to the open records request.

Command Central Makes Its Move—A Shady Deal With WI County Clerks
Last September, Election Integrity investigators discovered that unbeknownst to average citizens of Wisconsin, Command Central sent those 46 districts an offer: trade out your old Optech Insight Scanner for two DRE Touch Screen models, at no charge. The Optech machine is the one that paper ballots are fed through to read and register the votes.

While these machines are also susceptible to hacking (see Rep. Pridemore explain how to game the machine) in the case of a recount, it is possible to physically monitor the paper ballots as they are fed through the machine to see if they match the machine totals.

With DRE Touch Screens, however, one’s vote could be flipped and one would never know because there is no receipt or paper trail voters receive to confirm their vote was counted as voted. All that is left is a paper tape that shows votes and vote totals. If the machine is hacked, those totals have no other verifiable trail to confirm the results.

And yet according to John Washburn, this swap-out two-for-one offer violates the statutes issued by the GAB for State approved system as described on the Government Accountability Board’s website that requires the inclusion of an Optech Insight Scanner.

On January 13, 2012, Washburn emailed the GAB about this situation. When he did not receive an answer, he submitted an Open Records request to the GAB, with no reply. On May 2, he submitted another, again to no response. On May 4, he turned the case over to Dane County Attorney, and on May 14 he kicked it up to the Department of Justice.

Why is Command Central offering free machines? Why does the GAB not respond? Will the Department of Justice respond in time to help protect our June 5th recall elections?

Are these the “tough questions” clerks were being trained to answer?
more at link.
 eeeeeezy
Joined: 12/26/2011
Msg: 187
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 6:16:40 AM
It's terrible how the Right pushes vicious, aggressive, divisive politics in this nation.

http://twitchy.com/2012/06/06/kill-scott-walker-angry-libs-flood-twitter-with-death-threats-after-wisconsin-recall-defeat/


Somebody gone kill Scott Walker man.—
Brooksie Yvonne'(: (@xPureeSCRUB_) June 06, 2012

They gone JFK Scott Walker. Shoot his mfn head off BANG BANG!!! *chief keef voice* 🏃🔫—
ERIN M. (@DONTTouchTheFRO) June 06, 2012

Ima **** Scott walker up. I been wanting to for the longest anyways lowkey.—
`Marques.Scoot. (@__SupaMcNASTY__) June 06, 2012

Ima be right back! I'm finna go kill #ScottWalker **** ass dawg. Nbs!—
`Marques.Scoot. (@__SupaMcNASTY__) June 06, 2012

Somebody need to Abe Lincoln Scott Walker cave frog lookin ass.—
Ocean Gang Goon (@SeXXX_Symbol_) June 06, 2012

??? RT @xDIMPLES_: Somebody go kill scott walker or shoot his punk ass I wish I could watch when it happen lol he got me being evil x shit—
EEE (@EEElverhoy) June 06, 2012

I wanna kill scott walker so ****ing baddd!!!!! & the racist dumb ***holes that voted for him #nbs—
Fat****ess&GoodWeed (@DomoSoloDolo) June 06, 2012

Please somebody kill Scott Walker.—
(@Prototypeisgame) June 06, 2012

Umm imma Start A Damn Kill Scott Walker Committee ! Who w. Me ?—
Nakeshaa **** $$$ (@All_Onaa_Hoeee) June 06, 2012

Someone from the NRA should shoot Scott Walker in the head, GTA-style.—
Wesley Lam (@realwesleywess) June 06, 2012

I might just have to kill scott walker n take that charge—
AHH FACK IM BASED! (@caleb_white) June 06, 2012

Scott walker will die within the next week ive already payed for the hit—
AHH FACK IM BASED! (@caleb_white) June 06, 2012

Somebody go kill scott walker or shoot his punk ass I wish I could watch when it happen lol he got me being evil x shit but ****KKKK HIM NBS—
CAUTION im CUFFED ♡ (@xDIMPLES_) June 06, 2012

If you kill Scott Walker I will give you a big kissu—
Denver Hoxha (@BrothMan_BEEF) June 06, 2012

I'm not saying somebody should kill Scott Walker but uhhh Maybe somebody should Lincoln his ass jus saying—
LexXxie♥ (@ILoveLexiss) June 06, 2012

Scott Walker needs to die—
morgan y evans (@morganyevans) June 06, 2012

Before I die, I'd like to kick Scott Walker in the balls @theburiedlife—
Chelsea (@chelseagirl) June 06, 2012

Oh Yeah, Somebody Gone Shoot Scott Walker White Ass.—
6|Fourtheen|12( : (@_SpikesxSpandex) June 06, 2012

Scott Walker Must Die—
Josh James 凸(¬_¬)凸 (@JoshhyCashh) June 06, 2012

Scott walker needs fall down the capital stairs & die..—
Karlä ♥ (@MexicanLust69) June 06, 2012

“@xOForever_Valid Somebody Should Shoot Scott Walker #NOLie! ^.^”—
♡ Junee7th ♥ (@Deshay_Nicolee) June 06, 2012

Soo, who gone shoot Scott Walker!?—
♋ June 28th (: (@ColeyColeee_) June 06, 2012

I wanna shoot scott walker in the leg or something.—
Breeeeeeeezzzzyyy (@__HoopAHOLIC) June 06, 2012

YOU **** ! Im Finna Assassinate Scott Walker Punk Ass ! Why The **** He Win Somebody SHOOT HIS ASS ! -___-—
July 4th 2014 . (@SKSunnyy) June 06, 2012

They are also threatening Gov. Walker’s wife and son:

NBS I Know What School Scott Walker Son Go To—
Tj ****ed Yo **** (@iWusGetnSumHead) June 06, 2012

AND If Scott Walker Got A Wife Imma **** Her Face—
Tj ****ed Yo **** (@iWusGetnSumHead) June 06, 2012

If I ever see anybody of the Walker family on the street, ima pop they ass.—
Ya Girl Tae (@TaeesWorld) June 06, 2012
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 188
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 6:23:14 AM
"Congratulations on your fail."

I'd say that now is the time for Walker to turn up the heat here in Wisconsin;)

Elections have consequences. Recall elections have even bigger consequences.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 189
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 6:24:25 AM
Ah, "tot", Why do you even care? You already live in the kind of society you desire. Now, let us have the FREEDOM to choose. Next move, PRIVITIZATION.

Because, I call out bullshit when I see it.




Yes, correct, individual responsibility. Strange new concept. People being responsible for their offspring? Eh?...

Good point you got yours while you leached off a progressive social system, so why not gut it now seeing as you no longer have a need for it.

You are only going to hurt the poor people and the middle class so what do you care.

That is one great legacy to leave behind for future generations.




I'd say that now is the time for Walker to turn up the heat here in Wisconsin;)

Elections have consequences. Recall elections have even bigger consequences.

So true he really should juts hand over the state to walmart and the koch brothers.

Though I think Walker still have a few chargers to answer to and last I checked tampering with an election is a federal crime, but do not let you celebrate that your state is now in the shitter with regards to social programs and will quickly become nothing but a waste land of corporate tax havens.
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 190
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 7:46:22 AM
POST 230-Looks like the Dems got the last laugh after all. They won a seat and took back the Senate so Walker can't pass any more legislation without cooperation. Good thing they hedged their bet.

Don't count your chickens just yet, as there is sill a recount to be done. And even if the Dems do win this State Senate seat it's kinda pointless as the State Senate is not even in session and won't be in session for awhile. Come this November we will win a bunch of newly redistricted State Senate Seats that are up for grabs;)

Walker won by a larger margin this time around then he did in 2010. And this comes after all the hippie drum beatings in Madison, after all the yelling and screaming and after all the noise that came from the left.
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
Msg: 191
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On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 7:59:50 AM
Wisconsin shows that given enough corporate money, control over the voting machines, and a propaganda machinery that can divide and conquer a citizenry, that Citizen United works as intended.

Wisconsin has never been so divided, families and friends torn apart by the propaganda machine and the divide and hate of the extreme right. Good work.

Hopefully Walker will serve out his term in federal prison as his chickens come home to roost. If convicted of his perjury, he could spend several years among his peers.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167881/did-scott-walker-lie-under-oath-congress
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 192
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 8:06:59 AM
"Hopefully Walker will serve out his term in federal prison as his chickens come home to roost. If convicted of his perjury, he could spend several years among his peers"

So what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?...

Anyways, getting back to the quote. Yeah, yeah yeah, blah blah blah. Sorry but it ain't gonna happen. If they had sh1t on GOV Walker, they would have moved in by now. But I will entertain this 'wet dream' of you liberals. So lets say Walker does go to Prison. Ok, good bye Scott and Hello to our New Gov Kleeficsh and newly appointed Lt Gov Scott Fitzgerald.

That's right, Scott Fitzgerald LT GOV :)
 Neopoli
Joined: 3/1/2011
Msg: 193
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 8:23:17 AM
Thanks for the Canadian perspective in posts 228 & 229. VERY enlightening & informative. Gives one a sort of hands-off perspective from an uninvolved neutral point, yet very relative nonetheless. Makes you wonder what is so wrong with all of this down here.




The final margin of Walker's electoral VICTORY appears to be settling at 7 points. You (ahem) do realize the significance of that percentage, don't you?



Yes. The signifigance is that he won in 2012 with MORE support than he originally had in 2010. He barely got 52% of the vote the first time around. Seems like all those millions of tax dollars spent to have this recall election only served to solidify his position.
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 194
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 8:35:53 AM
Has anyone yet stopped to wonder why Obama ('The Most Merciful and Most High, Lord Obama the Obdurate') has chosen to use today, June 6, 2012, the day after the recall election and the 68th anniversary of the storming of the beaches at Normandy on D-Day, June 6, 1944, to go campaigning on the Left Coast with his Hollywood 'elitistas' rather than spend time at Arlington honoring the men and women who helped keep this country free? I haven't heard anything about this massive display of disrespect for their memories yet ... he's too busy seeking solace for getting his impotent ass handed to him in last night's election. It'll be orders of magnitude worse for him on the morning of November 7, 2012 ...
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
Msg: 195
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History
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 9:42:29 AM
To all the Walker backers I say congratulations. If I were a Wisconsinite I'd be disappointed but willing to move on.

However, I don't think this is a future trend. In my state [Ohio] last November we defeated Issue 5. This was a bill which would have done the same thing to our public sector unions. It went down in a sound defeat.

And If I'm wrong and this is the future, I feel for my kids.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
Msg: 196
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On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 10:01:18 AM
I can only hope this will have some effect on California--but I doubt it. Government employees' unions have done a lot to ruin the economy here, too, thanks in large part to Governor "Moonbeam" Brown. They and the horde of illegal aliens have laid waste to a state whose schools, highways, hospitals, and other public facilities even in the 1970's were the pride of the country. No wonder unemployment is 12% and businesses are leaving.

This is bad news for Mr. Obama, and in a month or so, he may get a lot more of it. It looks like the Supreme Court will not only crush Obamacare, but will also slap down his attempt to stop Arizona from enforcing U.S. immigration laws. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 197
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 10:02:58 AM

Wisconsin shows that given enough corporate money, control over the voting machines, and a propaganda machinery that can divide and conquer a citizenry, that Citizen United works as intended


Can't just admit that the people have spoken. They seen he did what he said he would and it actually made things better. More jobs less unemployment. Cut the debt and now the state has a surplus.

Why does the left always use excuses when they loose a election? Why do you think nobama stayed away from the election? He knew that what Walker has done worked in just a year and a half. And his policies have done nothing but put us further in debt and higher unemployment.

The GOP should use this on the national plane, a Governor of Wisconsin turns the economy from black to red in months using conservative principles, while the president hasn't been able to do so in three years with his socialist agenda.


Wisconsin has never been so divided, families and friends torn apart by the propaganda machine and the divide and hate of the extreme right. Good work.


The people spoke Walker won with a larger number than he did in the first election. Around 60% voted for him it now up to the 40% that didn't to step up and work with him for the betterment of the state.
 balrog67
Joined: 4/1/2012
Msg: 198
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 10:19:16 AM

Has anyone yet stopped to wonder why Obama ('The Most Merciful and Most High, Lord Obama the Obdurate') has chosen to use today, June 6, 2012, the day after the recall election and the 68th anniversary of the storming of the beaches at Normandy on D-Day, June 6, 1944, to go campaigning on the Left Coast with his Hollywood 'elitistas' rather than spend time at Arlington honoring the men and women who helped keep this country free?


You have no phucking clue how the CIC chose to honor the fallen. Perhaps he chose to honor their sacrifice by actually doing something to benefit our nation instead of pandering to sentimentalism and capturing an obligatory photo op at the TOTUS.

But, nice cheap shot tho. (thumbs up)
lol!

 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 199
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 10:23:26 AM

Can't just admit that the people have spoken. They seen he did what he said he would and it actually made things better. More jobs less unemployment. Cut the debt and now the state has a surplus.

Exactly, so look past federal crime as it related to voter fraud and the fact that he did make the books like better but all it was smoke and mirrors where corporations got tax breaks and social programs got cut.

Do not bother thinking of the long term impact to society in a whole, just sleep better knowing the rich people will be taken care of.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 200
On Wisconsin.
Posted: 6/6/2012 10:45:56 AM

Exactly, so look past federal crime as it related to voter fraud and the fact that he did make the books like better but all it was smoke and mirrors where corporations got tax breaks and social programs got cut.


Voter fraud? I thought there is no voter fraud? That is right your a left winger so voter fraud only happens when the people vote against your policies.

The people voted to cut the social programs....TWICE.


Do not bother thinking of the long term impact to society in a whole, just sleep better knowing the rich people will be taken care of.


The people did think about long term and knew they could not sustain the amount of money these workers were bleeding from the system.

Like it or not the days of uber socialism is coming to a end in the US.

Wonder what moving company nobama is going to call on Nov. 7th 2012.
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