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 Whatisnewwithyou
Joined: 1/25/2011
Msg: 26
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"It is truly amazing how voters would vote for a person of such low quality...while calling the kettle black."

^^In other words if he ran and won he would be no different than any of the others. I personally don't know of any politicians on either side that are poor, but well you know, with the book deals, speaking fees, retirement packages, donations they receive and such, you would think that if they really cared about the country they would give all of this back instead of putting the burden on the tax payers. Here is your shovel.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 10:51:27 AM
Yes, we need someone familiar with bankruptcy court and how to stick creditors with the bill to run our country....but, when we give away an ownership stake in our country...who will we give it to???or will we find some legal clause to forget to pay our creditors...

By 1989, the effects of recession left Trump unable to meet loan payments. Trump financed the construction of his third casino, the $1 billion Taj Mahal, primarily with high-interest junk bonds. Although he shored up his businesses with additional loans and postponed interest payments, by 1991 increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy and the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. The Taj Mahal re-emerged from bankruptcy on October 5, 1991, with Trump ceding 50% ownership in the casino to the original bondholders in exchange for lowered interest rates on the debt and more time to pay it off.

Trump has been caught in the 2008 financial crisis as sales for his Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago have been lagging and he failed to pay a $40m loan to Deutsche Bank in December. Arguing that the crisis is an Act of God, he invoked a clause in the contract to not pay the loan and initiated a countersuit asserting his image has been damaged. Deutsche Bank has in turn noted in court that 'Trump is no stranger to overdue debt' and that he has twice previously filed for bankruptcy with respect to his casino operations.

On February 17, 2009 Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy; Trump having stated on February 13 that he would resign from the board. Trump Entertainment Resorts has three properties in Atlantic City.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
 jed456
Joined: 4/26/2005
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Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 11:35:42 AM
Vote for trump?
He is an attention seeking media whore.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 12:13:26 PM
The USA is not a business, and that's a mistake many make, they think that a good business man could run the country. Trump has bankrupt himself before, the country doesn't come back from that sort of thing so easily as someone who can pick up and rebuild. In fact most people can't, you need a name you can rebuild on. You don't run a country like a business, being a president isn't about making money, it's about what's best for the mass of humans you are responsible for. Whether or not a person likes the current president isn't the issue, the issue would be what was best for Americans as a whole. It's not what's most popular either, it's about the whole. People get all flaky when they think the government isn't making the the best deal for them, they don't think past what's in their bank account. It's a big job to do what's best for all and being an egomaniac is not a good candidate for running a county.
 Whatisnewwithyou
Joined: 1/25/2011
Msg: 30
Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 12:34:45 PM
"The USA is not a business, and that's a mistake many make, they think that a good business man could run the country. Trump has bankrupt himself before, the country doesn't come back from that sort of thing so easily as someone who can pick up and rebuild. In fact most people can't, you need a name you can rebuild on. You don't run a country like a business, being a president isn't about making money, it's about what's best for the mass of humans you are responsible for. Whether or not a person likes the current president isn't the issue, the issue would be what was best for Americans as a whole. It's not what's most popular either, it's about the whole. People get all flaky when they think the government isn't making the the best deal for them, they don't think past what's in their bank account. It's a big job to do what's best for all and being an egomaniac is not a good candidate for running a county."

^^Many US citizens know what is best for them, but unfortunately most politicians are only concerned about what is best for themselves, or Only their supporters, unless a leader is meeting my expectations and concerns, then he has no clue about what is best for me, nor does he even know that I exist. If Trump wants to run good for him, if he is just looking to get publicity, also good for him. I am seriously thinking about starting to write in myself when I cast my ballet from now own. I mean I can make a speech promising to do this or that and then cast blame on the other party or parties when I called out on my bs, which would probably help me to get elected and elected again. Come on, everybody is doing it, don't you want to be cool?
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 2:04:24 PM
No thanks, I wouldn't waste a vote on me.

I truly believe in what's best for all, as much as it can be done, and not what's best for me, even though I would love to have it all.
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 32
Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 3:21:24 PM
Interesting only one poster would vote for him so far? interesting.

most would not, a few dont care and a few likes Obama .
 dbok635
Joined: 11/11/2009
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Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 7:45:44 PM
Add one more Mr. Obama. I voted for him once and I'll do it again proudly.
As for this birther crap...I was born in Hawaii to a Navy family in 1953 and there is no doubt I'm American either. Trump's a punk!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 34
Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 9:43:55 PM
Even if Trump were truly a "good businessman"....it still would not translate into him being a good leader/president.....no more than a good ball player could be a good coach!

Being a "good" president is a function of:
1. how well you are able to work with your opposing party to get things done.
2. the kinda staff you surround yourself with--> are they free thinking idea producing individuals or are they ego-stroking yes-men!
3. having the knowledge and foresight of what impact your policies will have.

Now think of Trump!......a man who clearly is dictatorial and abrasive isn't gonna get too many to side with him unless he makes big concessions...which is something he doesn't like doing.........a man who doesn't like to be criticized or called out when he's wrong.......a man who clearly did not make the best of decisions in his own field.....and Trump doesn't run his business like a democracy!

If you see what effects some-one like Trump would have.....then look at Italy, where they have Silvio Berlusconi, a self made Billionaire... whose business skills haven't had much impact in his own nation!.....he's always involved in some form of controversy and is mired in all types of scandals (some real, some made up).....and to top it off, as with Trump, he likes banging women much younger than him!

This is what happens when you bring in a man, whose ego is bigger than a mountain!
 frankster_p
Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 35
Trump for President
Posted: 4/14/2011 11:33:05 PM
At least Berlusconi, with his Lega Nord partners has done some good things for the country.
I shudder to think what the loony opposition would do.
Europe is different from America, Their leaders dont have to be lily white clean and love the bible.
 gardenias2
Joined: 1/13/2011
Msg: 36
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 1:27:13 AM
well iceman i'd like to say, "what a ludicrous question"? however i remember that his books on how to become a greedy unethical self-centered idiot have been best sellers in the usa for decades. one too many americans think he's all that.

disturbing no?
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 37
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 3:46:01 AM

If Trump does run he will truly make the US a laughing stock.

I think you meant perpetuate that perception.

Why don't the Americans just create a "Birther Fringe Party" and fully embrace the crazy?

It's called the Tea Party.
 Consigliori
Joined: 1/7/2008
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Posted: 4/15/2011 11:24:21 AM
I'm still sore that Perot didn't make it in '92. And although we need to those commie lawyer b@stards out of the White House (sorry whytwater) and get some real businessmen in there, Trump just ain't the guy.
 raxarsr
Joined: 7/10/2008
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Posted: 4/15/2011 12:27:08 PM
while i dont particulary care for donald trum...........i honestly do have to wonder what would be wrong with a proven successfull businesman being the president?.

think about it......how many times have we all heard........"if someone ran a business like they run the government...they'd be out of busniess in a month


honestly........i think a successfull business man is a whole lot better than a career politician
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 40
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 1:39:06 PM
why is it a ludicrous question gardenias? 25 years ago If you and sat down over a drink and I said by 2008 there will be a Black President you would of thought I was a piece of chicken short a snack pack?

What's scary is if they amend the Second Article of the US Constitution to allow foriegn born to run, you may see the likes of Schwarzenegger run.

Im not saying that Trump running for president is a good idea, but it makes you think what over media hungry celebrity might throw their hat in?

Something raxarsr said that's been echoed many times, A successful business person should run the government , they understand what it takes to be successful to make changes and to adapt and prosper, not some life long bureaucrat that has collects paycheques for a living.
 notatowniegirl
Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 41
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 1:39:50 PM
^^^^
I guess, if you call 2 bankruptcies "successful"....
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 42
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 1:43:42 PM

honestly........i think a successfull business man is a whole lot better than a career politician

Well if you consider someone who managed to bankrupt a casino three times then Trump is your man.

...and why not.

You've already had a guy who managed to bankrupt oil companies in Texas, and that turned out petty good from what I saw on fox news.
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 43
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 1:48:55 PM
Notatowniegirl, okay did you miss the part in my original Post where I said HELL NO
and my other post saying I dont think Trump running is a good idea

While im not a fan of Trump, he him self didn't go bankrupt , his companies did
 notatowniegirl
Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 44
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 2:39:37 PM
Actually, I was directing my post to the one who said he'd rather vote for a "successful businessman than a career politician". You just happened to get in there while I was typing it.
 gardenias2
Joined: 1/13/2011
Msg: 45
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 3:07:05 PM
why is it a ludicrous question gardenias? 25 years ago If you and sat down over a drink and I said by 2008 there will be a Black President you would of thought I was a piece of chicken short a snack pack?


first, i would have never thought you a piece short of a snack pack or a bucket of chicken, even after a drink together. and second obama is not black. that just drives me crazy, he's half white doesn't make him black. sorry you cannot claim him, he's mine too! lol.

to answer your question.....i said that i WISHED it was a ludicrous question as to whether a meglomaniac could be voted into the usa presidency however bush got in there.
 CheshireCatalyst
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Posted: 4/15/2011 3:17:14 PM
I wonder how Trump plans to explain his 2012 campaign relative to his 2000 campaign, where he insisted that the Americans needed universal health care similar to what we have in Canada. He recognized that Canadians live longer and are healthier than Americans, with fewer medical lawsuits and labour lost due to illness.

I wonder if this philosophy still fits with his planned campaign? Probably most everything that comes out of his mouth is just a sound-bite.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 4/15/2011 3:44:32 PM
Because, again, the country is not a business, it's people, they are not products. The head of a country is suppose to do what is best for as many as possible, not make a profit at the expense of human life or the life of other things that live and grow in the USA. It's not a business, we aren't looking for more bonus packages for politicians, we are looking for someone who can make the lives of the citizens better, not a good place for even more of the celebrity rich people to make more money off the backs of the working poor.

If you run a company like a government, you'd be bankrupted in no time, since the point of running a company is to make profits. If you run the government like a company, you might make some bucks for the all-ready-rich but you'd bankrupt the majority of the population. Why not just toss all the people who aren't Trump-good-enough out into the ocean and tell them to swim for Cuba, because they aren't wanted in the Nation of Big Business.

~shakes head~
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 4/15/2011 4:45:39 PM

I wonder how Trump plans to explain his 2012 campaign relative to his 2000 campaign, where he insisted that the Americans needed universal health care similar to what we have in Canada.


I hate to say: you're right...I'd completely forgotten Mr. Comb-over was briefly in the 2000 election mentionables...

"We must have universal healthcare," wrote Trump. "I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses."

The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. "Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork," he writes.

http://www.slate.com/id/2291263/


Gads what will the Teapublicans say to this...and there's no way to back away from these statements gracefully.

Yanno...back in the day I thought a Libratarian like Ross Perot would be good for the country...and then I started to think about giving him the nuclear launch access codes...and I thought-well, perhaps we need someone else.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 49
Trump for President
Posted: 4/15/2011 8:32:24 PM
At least Berlusconi, with his Lega Nord partners has done some good things for the country.


what little good he may have done is greatly over-shadowed by the wide array of controversies/scandals he is caught up in............anyway my point was that just because he was(is) a good business man, does NOT necessarily mean that his country will benefit from it....a business is run by authoritarian rule, but a democracy is not!


 nipoleon
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Posted: 4/15/2011 10:01:01 PM

A successful business person should run the government , they understand what it takes to be successful to make changes and to adapt and prosper, not some life long bureaucrat that has collects paycheques for a living

Just because a farmer knows how to ride a horse doesn't mean he's qualified to be in the Kentucky Derby.

Government is not a business and few businesses are democracies.
Business is about making money, government is about public service. It's not the job of government to make a profit. Any businessman who doesn't know how to make a profit will fail. Any elected official who doesn't know how to serve the public should be ousted.

Donald Trump will not actually run for president, despite how entertaining that would be.
Trump is too vain to allow his real financial status become public knowledge.
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