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 forumslady
Joined: 12/7/2016
Msg: 8055
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Billybonds-"Inflation could never exist in a sound money system , it is wholly a creation of this criminal banking system we have. It is an invisible tax on the working classes and the poor and a direct transfer of wealth to the rich."
Amen!
You would think the big bank bail out after the housing market crash might have been a hint.
What was it PT Barnum said?
I've tried to get people off of the partisanship kick, good luck with that.
I've tried to tell people till I'm blue in the face to stop talking about sides and look at what is HAPPENING. No matter how often I do that, someone finds a way to take things off course and back to partisanship. Some people seem to think they know what I think better than I do. :D
Our two party system, amongst other things, is keeping people focused on the wrong things.
How, convenient, the more that happens the better, for those laughing at just how well slight of hand works with people who enjoy magic.
Look, it's a rabbit, where did that come from? ;)
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 8056
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/22/2017 4:25:08 AM
So what do you see as the solution, Bonds?
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 8057
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/22/2017 2:25:54 PM
Gotta hand it to our (European) ancestors, lol! First the church makes money lending a sin, and refuses to let Jews own land. So guess who ends up as bankers? Any child who's bright gets shunted into the church, removing their genes from the gene pool. For Jews, the bright child is encouraged to become a rabbi, where the whole community supports his large family. . . . Meanwhile, the Princes, wanting to wage war, borrow from the Jewish bankers. And sometimes pay them back. But if it's too much trubble, they can always just kill them. So for two thousand years, the Europeans work on making Jews richer and smarter, and themselves poorer and dumber. AND THEN, they have a perfect scapegoat when their own lives (as might be predicted) don't go well. Problem, of course, with scapegoating is that it makes YOU feel jus' fine, but doesn't really solve any problems.

You can see the remnants on many threads here, where the dumb and dumber explain how street smarts is just as good as a university edumacation, and watching TV makes you just as informed as reading books.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 8058
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/23/2017 2:34:48 PM
Goodbye John
"U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly pledged Thursday that America won’t enlist its military to enforce immigration laws and that there will be “no mass deportations.”

Only hours earlier, President Donald Trump suggested the opposite. “It’s a military operation,” Trump said Thursday at the White House."
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 8059
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/23/2017 2:37:53 PM
why, golly, there were so many people who picked on you for posting a draft memo, and gosh, look....she was right, and they were wrong as always.

Bueller? Bueller?
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 8060
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/24/2017 1:11:53 AM
Sorry quija, there aren't 100,000 national guards coming to your neighborhood. Don't freak out, you and gto will be ok as long as you are legal and not a criminal...YIKES!!! Goodnight quija
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 8061
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/24/2017 5:48:39 AM
John Darlin I live in Canada ( hence I am so polite LOL)
And John, to keep this flame of passion between us burning it is OUIJA. Like the board game to summon the dead.
Stay golden ponyboy :)
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 8062
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/24/2017 7:27:54 AM
Careful ouija, thos 100,000 NG are right in your back yard! They are everywhere!! YIKES!!
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 8063
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/24/2017 7:29:52 AM
tis ok John I can simply summon my legion of Dead.
Don't know about you but I can feel the quickening :/

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Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 8064
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/24/2017 7:30:41 AM

Careful ouija, thos 100,000 NG are right in your back yard! They are everywhere!! YIKES!!



Chasing alllllllll those bomb igniting Muslims right Johnny boy!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Walts, sits and watches Hilary run back and forth across an unmanned border, as he sips his whiskey.......
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 8065
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/25/2017 5:37:29 PM
"Careful ouija, those 100,000 NG are right in your back yard"

now now, Yikes Flounder, just b/c little boy Chump wants a toy, doesn't mean he gets to get it. Sometimes its the courts stopping his unconstitutional acts, sometimes its his own advisors reigning him in, and in the near future it will likely be the GOP Congress schooling him in how things are really done in the real world, not the reality TV world.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 8066
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/25/2017 6:15:27 PM
GTO hush, John is sending them to my place to save me from Visa and Paypal
Blessed
I do have a deer in my yard, perhaps a Trojan NG horse
I will give them a salt lick
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 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 8067
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 2/26/2017 4:01:23 AM

Inflation could never exist in a sound money system , it is wholly a creation of this criminal banking system we have. It is an invisible tax on the working classes and the poor and a direct transfer of wealth to the rich.

Billy,
I'm old enough to remember inflation at about 25% and above, in the 1970s, and I had a 'theory' about it.
I have no supporting evidence, and have never bothered to research it.
(Much like your own opinions, IMO)

Back then, the economy revolved around manufacturing and production.
And back then, working people seemed to have been making real progress, in terms of their pay, and standards of living.
Back then, unions were prolific, and quite powerful.

In a nutshell, my theory was that inflation was a product of the 'owners'/'shareholders/investors desire to maintain their 'lifestyles', and 'share of the pie', against the success of trade unions achieving a fairer wage for the people who actually DO the work.

EG. I'm a factory owner, and I live in a big mansion, and pay myself £1 million/year, for doing nothing more than playing golf.
Strikes forced me to pay the people who make my 'widgets', 15% more, because they could barely afford to eat, much less buy golf clubs.
So, In order to maintain my (unearned) 'income', I need to put the price of my widgets up.

Inflation is a 'push-back' against fairness.
Inflation is just the 'haves', moving the goalposts further away, because the 'have-nots' were getting closer.

Inflation is created to prevent any sort of 'redistribution' of wealth, in favour of the workers.

Back in the '70s, the Average CEO earned about 40 times as much as his workers.
Today, it's about 400X.
In the '70s we had millionaires, today, we have billionaires.
even with inflation, £1 in the '70s does not equate to £1,000 today.

Unions have been crushed, by consensus, because of a concerted effort, by "the establishment" and their tame media, to 'demonise' them.
They were successful.
Just as they are now successful again, in blaming "immigrants" for all your woes.

This began in the '70s, under Thatcher and Ray-Gun. And 'back-room deals', with people like Murdoch.
There's a quote by Murdoch, (I can't be bothered to find it) where he says something like " there wasn't another regime in the world, which would have lent the apparatus of the state, to support an employer, in a civil dispute, between a private employer, and his staff".
Thatcher used police and troops to crush unions, she outlawed "secondary picketing", to prevent any sort of 'democratic unity', and to reduce the power of unions and strikes.
And she undermined union funding.

Inflation is designed to reduce 'people-power', democracy, and 'collective bargaining'.
Inflation is a reaction to an attempt to achieve a more equitable distribution of the proceeds of work.

It's due to greedy people not being prepared to take less. IMO.
Billionaires, like Trump, who like to flaunt their wealth, by means of massive and accelerated consumption of the world's finite, and dwindling resources, to "prove" how very "special" they are, for no legitimate reason, but to massage their own fragile egos.
Inequality is much worse today, than in the '70s.

What was the recent statistic from Oxfam, (or someone?) -that some half a dozen individuals now "own" more assets than 50% of the world's population?
That's just crazy.:rolleye

The only way it will change, is if enough working people stand together.
Cue Lindisfarne: "I'm a Union Man".
Happy Sunday.
JMO
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 8068
Democrats are no more a party
Posted: 2/26/2017 9:17:30 AM
Looks like the democratic party continues to spiral downward after yesterday's dnc vote. Perez who goes down as one of the worst labor sec in history and ellison who shouldn't even have been that close to winning because of his "issues". Now we have Bernie Sanders that won't give the dnc his small donor mailing list to them.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 8069
Democrats are no more a party
Posted: 3/2/2017 12:19:25 PM
It seems that Dems like being the loyal opposition.
 drinkthesunwithmyface
Joined: 3/27/2012
Msg: 8070
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Posted: 3/2/2017 4:41:55 PM
Unions.

Fist - Sylvester Stallone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAndBxYrTBE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6T-vYJqU8g
 427cammer
Joined: 3/1/2008
Msg: 8071
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Posted: 3/2/2017 10:11:25 PM
Jo van:

Back then, the economy revolved around manufacturing and production.
And back then, working people seemed to have been making real progress, in terms of their pay, and standards of living.
Back then, unions were prolific, and quite powerful.

In a nutshell, my theory was that inflation was a product of the 'owners'/'shareholders/investors desire to maintain their 'lifestyles', and 'share of the pie', against the success of trade unions achieving a fairer wage for the people who actually DO the work.

EG. I'm a factory owner, and I live in a big mansion, and pay myself £1 million/year, for doing nothing more than playing golf.
Strikes forced me to pay the people who make my 'widgets', 15% more, because they could barely afford to eat, much less buy golf clubs.
So, In order to maintain my (unearned) 'income', I need to put the price of my widgets up.

I think you've got the gist of it.... artificially increasing wages results in inflation. You've missed a few links in your chain.... it isn't just the factory owners (or the union workers) who want a raise in pay.

Right now in my province our government has committed to raising the minimum wage by 50%.... from $10 to $15/hr in a four year period.

Now let's say I'm a highly skilled tradesman who makes $60/hr.... if they want to pay the kid learning how to run a broom and doing odd jobs and light work around the shop an extra $5.... I'm not gonna sweat it.

....except....
....the apprentice mechanic who's already been here for a year and a bit and has put his time in at the bottom of the heap and has clawed his way up to $12/hr, he's gonna want a raise too... now he's $18/hr.

....eventually, the guy who was making $40/hr (who's job I could do in my sleep) is going to be wanting $60.... and I'll be wanting $90.... and my landlord (him and his wife are raising a family in one half of their duplex... I've got the other side all to myself) is jacking up the rent... imagine that!


^^^^^Does this ring true with you?... it isn't just that "lazy" owner who is driving up prices... it's everybody.

...and while I've got very little sympathy for someone who is getting a salary of a million/year on a ten million dollar investment into his own company, it isn't very hard for me to recognise that these people are necessary.

Most people, if they ever were to get their hands on $10,000,000, would either burn through it very quickly, OR, they would carefully plan out a comfortable retirement giving themselves a good size allowance every year until death (probably with a small bit left over for any heirs).

....the greedy sonsab*tches, the ones who want to turn that $10M into $20M, are the reason that most of us have jobs.
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 8072
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Posted: 3/3/2017 12:37:04 AM
I remember when politicians use to blame workers for their unreasonable pay demands , all fork tongue of course because billy knows this. So you can put your Philips curve down and walk away from the societal confusion that surrounds this important subject.

I don't do the old supporting evidence but simple logic Jo, we have ten widgets and ten currency units and no inflation. If you produced twenty widgets then I would print twenty currency units, still no inflation the currency has maintained its purchasing power. Only by printing currency Units with no concomitant rise in widget production is inflation (or the destruction of value in a currency unit) possible . Only then does behaviour play Its part. Be assured jo that this is a governmental trick if we had to pay for war through our taxes and not the stealth tax of inflation there would be much less military spending and indeed war.

On topic, Trump sure seems to have a lot in common with President Obama. Inflate and let the dollar die later I think.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 8073
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 3/3/2017 7:42:52 AM
just for the hell of it...how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

increasing pay can increase demand for products. If supply doesn't match demand, cost for demanded product goes up in a non-socialist economy. Or a government can have a war as long as Vietnam, and inflate its currency, and a paycheck has to match COL. Now, if computers increase productivity (they do in manufacturing, not so much in white collar jobs, so if we move from blue collar to white collar economy that pays equal to union wages...), then supply may keep up to demand, if there is enough raw material. Recycling may just help with that, depending upon the cost to recycle versus cost to mine for raw material (environmental damage over time, pulling oil out of warzones, etc).

There are also counterarguments, that computers aren't being utilized to increase productivity, or that they've plateau'd

https://www.stlouisfed.org/Publications/Regional-Economist/October-1998/Have-Computers-Made-Us-More-Productive-A-Puzzle#chart1
http://business.time.com/2013/08/19/americas-productivity-problem/

(and of course, there is the matter of the Baby Boomer population bubble, retiring out of the workplace entirely, and will eventually die out of the consumer market. but why make this post long with tangents? :) )

of course, there's another "Way" to increase what a worker gets for compensation. Instead of cash, benefits like insurance and retirement plans.

http://www.careercast.com/career-news/why-benefits-are-more-important-salary

(salary, for those who don't know, refers to salt, what Roman troops were paid, so long as they were "worth their salt"). Of course, bennies can become a problem, for a time General Motors was a health insurance company that built cars.

and also for fun:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2014/02/15/uaws-loss-and-what-it-means-for-your-paycheck/#49c41d283e2f

but enough about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, Chump's original plan for government debt was to default on it like he does his loans. The result for him was having to go to Deutschbank b/c no one in America wanted to fall for his trick. and then he changed his mind and decided why default when you print the currency you owe, and just inflate the debt away.
 brandished
Joined: 9/25/2009
Msg: 8074
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Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 3/8/2017 3:55:09 PM
Is it fair to call the President of the United States a liar?
If anyone is interested, you can vote your yes or no at the end of the article.


Is it fair to call the President of the United States a liar?
This is the question plaguing many journalists and politicians, who struggle to deal with the misinformation spread by the president and his administration on an almost-daily basis.
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders recently took to Twitter to detail how Trump has lied to the public, after Trump accused former President Barack Obama of wiretapping his phones:



http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/is_it_fair_to_label_trump_a_liar_20170308
 dragonbytes
Joined: 9/15/2015
Msg: 8075
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Posted: 5/3/2017 6:46:51 AM
In the past I hadn't followed politics this closely, so I don't know what past Presidents had done.

My question, has ANY past President had ads paid to tout how well they have done in their first year of their taking office?? (not first 100 days, first 365 days?)

I just think it's weird Trump is running a reelection campaign in his first 100 days in office.

The $1.5 million promotion, called “First 100 Days,” was paid for by Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., and began airing in major markets across the country Monday.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 8076
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/3/2017 6:52:33 AM
off the top of my head, I don't remember a president having a specific advertising to promote their entire job. They may have pushed a specific program that was moving slowly in Congress, to get voters to work on their congressional representatives, of course. when campaigning for cash for the party, they may have whipped the crowd up, playing the golden oldie favorites like a singer from the 1950's who knows his/her crowd. But then, Chump is a narcissist, and he loves to stand in front of an adoring crowd and hear them cheer for him as he goes back to the proverbial well.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 8077
Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/5/2017 5:38:16 PM
Wow. Republicans *officially* delete their promise to protect pre-existing conditions, purging the promise from their website.

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/860568410069114880
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 8078
Trump for President
Posted: 11/3/2017 3:32:45 AM
Mostly black people are affected. Who hates black people?

Let's blame Trump for this. That's what it's all about.

Resistance ho!!!!!





The deadly airborne plague spreading rapidly across Madagascar is now at 'crisis' point as cases have rocketed by 37 per cent in just five days, official figures reveal.
The outbreak, the 'worst in 50 years', is being fueled by a strain more lethal than the one which usually strikes the country off the coast of Africa.
The World Health Organization (WHO) now states there are 1,801 suspected cases - significantly higher than the 1,309 it reported last Thursday.
Academics have revealed such a jump in cases over the period of five days is concerning and have predicted it could get worse. The most recent statistics show there have been 127 deaths.
Professor Robin May, an infectious diseases expert at Birmingham University, told MailOnline that 'whichever way you look' at the outbreak, it’s 'concerning definitely'.
Analysis of figures by MailOnline show the epidemic could strike a further 20,000 people in just a matter of weeks, if current trends continue. It could be made worse by crowds gathering for an annual celebration to honour the dead earlier this week.
The 'truly unprecedented' outbreak has prompted warnings in nine nearby countries - South Africa, Seychelles, La Reunion, Mozambique, Tanzania, Kenya, Ethiopia, Comoros and Mauritius.
Two thirds of this year's cases have been caused by the airborne pneumonic plague and means it is spread through coughing, sneezing or spitting. It is different to the traditional bubonic form that strikes the country each year.
Speaking exclusively to MailOnline, Professor Johnjoe McFadden, an expert in molecular genetics at the University of Surrey, said: 'It’s a crisis at the moment and we don’t know how bad it’s going to get.'
Professor Jimmy Whitworth, an international public health scientist at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, told MailOnline earlier today: 'This outbreak though is the worst for 50 years or more.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5043497/Deadly-airborne-plague-cases-rocket-40.html#ixzz4xMbBYxt5
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 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 8079
Trump for President
Posted: 11/4/2017 8:07:25 AM
The Bush family repudiates Trump.....tar him as a threat to the GOP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bush-41-and-bush-43-worry-trump-is-blowing-up-the-gop/ar-AAuqdy9?li=BBnb7Kz

Never thought I'd see the day when I would favor Bush over Trump as POTUS
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