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 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 101
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First of all, that's not what Coma said. Second, believe it or not, you're no more privy to information than Coma or anyone else outside of these borders. Your opinion is no more relevant than Coma's.-saharam
ummmmm, grab a coffee first before you read the next part of my post.

Are you sitting down with you cup of java ....look below




I think Obama is one of the worst presidents to ever be elected. He promised not to hire lobbyists, but that's all he did. He got a nobel peace prize and bombed Pakistan. He said he would close Guantanamo Bay and then didn't do it. I'm guessing the reason for that is because if they tried people in the US, they would have to show the evidence against the so called terrorists in a public setting. The US foreign policy never changes no matter who is in power. (Thanks Aipac)-coma msg 98
okay did I miss something here?
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 102
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Posted: 4/21/2011 9:09:05 AM
61% of Historians Rate the Bush - History News Network
Mar 5, 2009 ... One historian indicated that his reason for rating Bush as worst is that the current president combines traits of some of his failed ...
hnn.us/articles/48916.html

 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 103
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Posted: 4/21/2011 10:09:11 AM
Wonder who would vote for Trump, well wait no longer as here are some now.

Uploaded by NOTSCGOP on Apr 19, 2011

What you are about to see is footage of real interviews with SC Republican voters at a rally in Columbia, hosted by SC Republican Governor Nikki Haley and Republican Presidential candidate Michele Bachmann on April 18, 2011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77rtyQf6Hwk
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 104
Trump for President
Posted: 4/21/2011 10:24:23 AM
OMG Frank, I was killing my self watching the video I seriously had tears running down my face from laughing so hard, got love those extremist from South Carolina

Make mental note do not visit parts of South Carolina....check.
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
Msg: 105
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Posted: 4/21/2011 10:49:20 AM
If Ross Perot ran again I would vote for him. If Trump ran, NO.

Palin........forget it.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 106
Trump for President
Posted: 4/21/2011 11:06:36 AM
He won't run anyway.

If he actually ran, there would be scrutiny of his business life, and it just can't stand up to close examination. He's a flake - not counting his "Birther" nonsense. In the business world, he's seen as a flake. He isn't someone you want to invest with - he'll leave you out of pocket. If that becomes common knowledge then he will have business problems. A Presidential run would make that common knowledge. And his over-weaning vanity couldn't take the revelations anyway. NBC did a piece on him a couple of nights ago - he looked offended that he was actually being asked questions.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 107
Trump for President
Posted: 4/23/2011 7:30:54 AM
Donald, You’re Fired!
Trump repeats false claims about Obama's birthplace.
April 9, 2011
Summary
If Donald Trump worked for us, we’d have to say: "Donald, you’re fired — for incompetence." The successful developer and TV celebrity says he’d make a good president, and maybe he would — we take no stand either way about that. But when it comes to getting facts straight, he fouls up again and again on the basics of President Barack Obama’s birth. As a rookie reporter, he just wouldn’t make it.

■He claims the president’s grandmother says Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, the recording to which he refers shows Sarah Obama repeatedly saying through a translator: "He was born in America."
■He claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama’s birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law, but Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Medical Center has published a letter from Obama calling it "the place of my birth," thus publicly confirming it as his birthplace.
■He insists that the official "Certification of Live Birth" that Obama produced in 2008 is "not a birth certificate." That’s wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses "birth certificate" as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.
■He claims that there’s no signature or certification number on the document released by Obama. Wrong again. Photos of the document, which we posted in 2008, clearly show those details.
■He says newspaper announcements of Obama’s birth that appeared in Hawaii newspapers in 1961 "probably" were placed there fraudulently by his now-deceased American grandparents. Actually, a state health department official and a former managing editor of one of the newspapers said the information came straight from the state health department.
■He claims "nobody knew" Obama when he was growing up and "nobody ever comes forward" who knew him as a child. "If I ever decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten," Trump said. Well, two retired kindergarten teachers in a 2009 news story fondly recall teaching a young Barack Obama.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/
 CheshireCatalyst
Joined: 9/14/2007
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Posted: 4/23/2011 7:43:25 AM

He insists that the official "Certification of Live Birth" that Obama produced in 2008 is "not a birth certificate." That’s wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses "birth certificate" as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.


Then Trump and all birthers should concede that no one born in Hawaii could ever become President, because all “birth certificates” in Hawaii look like this.
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 109
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Posted: 4/23/2011 9:29:48 AM
Well that shows you Trump is just that a snake oil salesman trying to peddle more crap, What he fails to realize that oh before the democratic party started peddling Obama to the public they vetted him they would of hear the claims long ago and either proved it either way.

The vetting process is a serious process they know every girlfriend he stood up in the 70's, if he uses Tide or Calgon, every mark he received in school, if he pulled Susie Hair in grade 3 or told some hillbilly to F off when he was at Harvard.

Trump's claim is a credible as his business tactic and should be taken as serious as Sarah Palin winning Mother of the year in North Korea.

Although Im not a fan of Obama, Trump's claims are just absolute bull sh!t in the purest form.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 110
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Posted: 4/23/2011 9:41:47 AM
The evidence that Obama was born in the U.S.A. is so overwhelming that we haven’t had much to say lately about the sort of bogus claims that Trump repeats. Hawaii’s top official in charge of vital records stated long ago, for example, that the confidential records underlying Obama’s official birth certificate show that he was born in Hawaii and is "a natural born American citizen."

But when a leading prospect for the Republican presidential nomination embraces and repeats these spurious claims and groundless conspiracy theories on national television, we are forced to wade into this swamp once again. For details of where Trump goes wrong, and full documentation of the facts, please read on to our Analysis section.

Analysis
Trump made several incorrect statements of fact in an April 7 appearance on NBC’s "Today Show," and later in a call-in to MSNBC’s "Morning Joe." In each instance he echoed claims that are often repeated by those who wish to believe Obama is not a natural-born American citizen and thus not qualified under the Constitution to be president.

The proof of Obama’s citizenship has long been apparent to us and, we think, to any reasonable person with a mind open to evidence, regardless of his or her party. The conservative National Review agreed as long ago as July 2009, when it wrote that "a few misguided souls among the Right" had bought into the sort of "foolishness" that Trump now embraces. "Like Bruce Springsteen, he [Obama] has a lot of bad political ideas; but he was born in the U.S.A.," the Review’s editors said.

The proof is not just the official birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii, and made public by the Obama campaign in 2008. As we wrote when we published detailed photographs of that document in our "Born in the U.S.A." article, that document constitutes legal proof of citizenship sufficient to meet all U.S. Department of State requirements for issuance of a passport.

There also were public announcements of Obama’s birth published in Hawaii newspapers shortly after his birth in 1961 (placed there not by his family, as Trump suggests, but based on official state records.) And the state’s top vital records official, Dr. Chiyome Leinaala Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, issued a statement in 2009 stating that she had "seen the original vital records maintained on file" and that those records, which are confidential under state law, verify that "Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen."

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/
 SaharaM
Joined: 4/9/2009
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Posted: 4/23/2011 10:57:50 AM
Keeping in mind that "natural born citizen" has not been defined, any child born to a citizen would most very likely be part of the definition... That said, I don't mind the fact that this issue won't go away..the senseless and irrational turmoil is fascinating.
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Posted: 4/24/2011 6:05:29 AM
Trump, like many birther leaders, know in their hearts that they are being disingenuous, but playing the birther card is highly effective code in reaching out to the masses of the right, the KKK children, that it is a sure vote getter. It's purely the business of manipulating the voting market for personal gain. Truth is merely a casualty of the Trump business model. Some have serious doubts that Trump's hair was born in this country.
 SaharaM
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Posted: 4/24/2011 6:15:58 AM

Some have serious doubts that Trump's hair was born in this country.
That's unfair. Don't worry, you too can have the look.

http://www.time.com/time/interactive/0,31813,2065167,00.html#ixzz1JVyMgCgE

You're welcome.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 114
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Posted: 4/24/2011 6:34:53 AM
We were amused to see Trump make a show recently of producing what he said was his own "birth certificate," which wasn’t an official document and wouldn’t qualify him for a passport. “It took me one hour to get my birth certificate," he told the conservative-leaning news site Newsmax. "It’s inconceivable that, after four years of questioning, the president still hasn’t produced his birth certificate."

Trump’s "birth certificate" was actually an unofficial "Certificate of Birth" generated by Jamaica Hospital Medical Center (in Queens, N.Y. — not the island nation) stating that Trump was born there June 14, 1946. But because it was not "issued by the city, county or state" as required by the State Department, it does not constitute legal proof of citizenship sufficient to obtain a passport. When confronted with these facts, Trump later coughed up what he said was his official birth record issued by New York City’s Bureau of Records and Statistics. It is a certified photocopy of a "Certificate of Birth" signed by a physician. This one does appear to meet State Department requirements. And so does Obama’s.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/
 CheshireCatalyst
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Posted: 4/24/2011 6:49:45 AM
^^Yes, the irony, it burns!

As President Trump, China would be forced to end currency manipulation or face a 25 percent tariff on all exports to the United States. I wonder if that includes his wife Melania's QVC jewellery line, which is made entirely in China?
 Eversad
Joined: 5/1/2009
Msg: 116
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Posted: 4/25/2011 2:38:18 AM
I only saw him in one interview and I liked what he had to say. I would not make my vote on one interview, but from that one, he has potential. Obama is to secretive for me, and I am not talking about his birth.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 4/25/2011 3:54:14 PM
April 25, 2011
Trump Dogged By Rumors His Hair is Not From U.S.
So-called ‘Balders’ Movement Gathers Steam

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) – A threat to the fledgling presidential campaign of Donald Trump emerged today, as a group of activists charged that Mr. Trump is not eligible to hold the nation’s highest office because his hair does not originate from the U.S.

The group, who call themselves “Balders,” claim that the hair-like substance that crowns Mr. Trump’s head is from a foreign country, which would mean that the candidate is less than one hundred percent American.

“Time and time again, Donald Trump has refused to produce a certificate of authenticity for his hair,” said Leeann Selwyn, a leading Balder. “This is tantamount to a comb-over of the truth.”

But if in fact Mr. Trump’s distinctive mane turns out to be of foreign origin, such a revelation need not be fatal to his presidential hopes, says Professor Davis Logsdon, who has studied the history of presidential hair at the University of Minnesota.

“Remember, several of our greatest early presidents, like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, had hair that originated elsewhere,” Mr. Logsdon says. “The only thing that could kill Trump politically is if his hair turns out to be from France.”

At a GOP event in Iowa, Mr. Trump made no reference to the Balders controversy, and instead sounded an upbeat theme: “If I am given the chance to do the same magic I did for NBC, America will be the number four country in the world.”

In a piece of good news for Mr. Trump, a new poll showed a majority of likely voters agreeing with the statement, “Donald Trump being sworn in as President would be a great last scene in a Planet of the Apes remake.”
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 118
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Posted: 4/26/2011 7:26:18 PM
^^^good post. I just heard him being interviewed tonight on Anderson Cooper. The guy sounds like a 100% nut ball. I can't believe that anyone would consider voting for him if he ran. Idiots walk among us.....
 Casper66
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Posted: 4/27/2011 12:15:11 AM
This is so typical of Donald Trump, he is such a media ho, I lost count how many times he mentioned his show for being the reason he wouldn't run for president during one interview, then he gets vague if he will run, it's pure media manipulation. The Birther debate has really made him look silly thou.
 rpl55
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Posted: 4/27/2011 8:33:15 AM
CheshireCatalyst said:


Then Trump and all birthers should concede that no one born in Hawaii could ever become President, because all “birth certificates” in Hawaii look like this.


This is a lie, as you know. I have already shown you, in another thread, that there are 3 different types of birth certificate accepted, and used, in Hawaii.

In that thread, "Don't Confuse Me With The Facts, My Mind Is Made Up," CheshireCatalyst said:


Any citizenship-denialist worth his salt will point out to you that a "certificate of live birth" is not the same as the birth certificate.


Anybody with any ability to think on even a rudimentary level knows that the two are NOT the same.

SaharaM said:


Seriously, though, this thread is perfect for Birthers... they could not be more perfectly illustrative.


Turns out you were right. I have illustrated that Arwen52, CheshireCatalyst, SaharaM, Earthpuppy, and others, already had their minds made up and, despite the fact that I provided documentary proof of my assertions, they refuse to see what was put in front of them

Earthpuppy said:


Nope, the Birthers are only obsessed with one person, one "truth" that meets their need to get the uppity half black man out of their WHITE house.


Bullshit. Stop projecting.

Arwen52 said:


Put on your thinking cap.


I think maybe you and CheshireCatalyst need to reassess your place in the Dunning-Kruger scale, although I did enjoy the irony of your assumptions as to where on the scale you fall.

CheshireCatalyst said:


The parade of contrarian Birther theories seems to have been over long ago, but the marching continues......"Birfers" and "Troofers" will always claim that the truth is always hidden, no matter what the subject matter and no matter what evidence is provided to the contary - they are the "elites" in possession of secret knowledge.


Elites? Secret knowledge??

I showed you the different birth certificate forms, in black and white, easily found on the Hawaii government site. The fact that you were unable (or unwilling) to see what a ten year old could see boggles the mind.

SaharaM said:


It is difficult to me for imagine, but I can only guess that it must be very frustrating to be in your shoes, holding the beliefs you hold, and seeing the country move on, seemingly ignoring things that exist in your reality. I'm sorry for your angst, but you might as well settle into it, if you're going to continue to deny truth.


Although this wasn't said directly to me, I will reply anyway. It wasn't frustrating at all - it was funny, and entertaining, to see so many Fauxgressives proudly announcing their ignorance, calling names, and just plain lying - when the facts were in front of their eyes.

In fact, one Fauxgressive moron sent me a personal message berating me for seeing the obvious. My daughter and I regularly read this person's posts for comic relief. The ignorance is staggering.

erinsonline said:


You really are an idiot, aren't you? Do you know why President Obama won't give you what you want as far as documentation? I mean a "real" birth certificate. Besides the fact that he already has. You want to know why he won't?

F*CK you. THAT'S why.


Already has? Oops! Same to you, by the way.

Now, as it turns out, the Obama has today, finally, released what he claims is his long form birth certificate. It is my hope that the Fauxgressives on these forums will at least reassess themselves, and figure out why they were so easily, and completely, fooled. But I doubt very much that any of these folks have the intellectual integrity to do so. Oh well.

RPL
 Whatisnewwithyou
Joined: 1/25/2011
Msg: 121
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Posted: 4/27/2011 8:43:06 AM
I am still going to write myself in and vote for me, if he runs or if he does not run. Me campaign will be making sure that the original colonies are the only ones that can be considered the United States, and rest can go be the UnUnited States. LOL! of course I am kidding. None of these politicians are ever going to do what I want to begin with so oh well, at least I can still have a glass of scotch or 7.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 4/27/2011 9:06:20 AM

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/


I'm guessing that the birthers on this thread haven't read this article disputing, with proof, the birther claims.


Now, as it turns out, the Obama has today, finally, released what he claims is his long form birth certificate. It is my hope that the Fauxgressives on these forums will at least reassess themselves, and figure out why they were so easily, and completely, fooled. But I doubt very much that any of these folks have the intellectual integrity to do so. Oh well.


I don't know why President Obama would even attempt to convince a birther of his birthright...no documentation that the President, the state of Hawaii, or the Kapiolani Maternity @ Gyneiological Hospital ever presents will be good enough for a birther...

Which makes me wonder why our citizenship would vote in such a close minded candidate as a birther like Trump....and the answer is we wouldn't.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 4/27/2011 9:44:55 AM
April 27, 2011
Obama Reveals Unsuccessful Run for President of Kenya
Disqualified by U.S. Birth Certificate

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – In a stunning announcement that took even political insiders by surprise, President Barack Obama revealed today that he ran for President of Kenya in 2005 but was disqualified when a birth certificate surfaced showing he was born in the United States.

At a press conference at the White House, Mr. Obama spoke for the first time about his little-known unsuccessful foray into Kenyan politics: “Like every American boy or girl, I grew up with the dream of someday becoming President of Kenya.”

But soon after he entered the race, political opponents began spreading rumors that he was not “a real Kenyan,” the President said, and foiled his bid by disseminating copies of his authentic American birth certificate.

“I guess I didn’t look into the rules closely enough before I ran,” the President admitted. “I got caught up in the excitement of being President of Kenya and I guess I just got carried away.”

Lisimba Ogongo, a Nairobi talk radio host who spearheaded the effort to unearth Mr. Obama’s U.S. birth certificate, confirmed Mr. Obama’s version of events today.

“I felt strongly that the people of Kenya deserved the truth,” Mr. Ogongo said. “We were not about to elect a President of Kenya who was really a secret Hawaiian.”

Elsewhere, Donald Trump found himself under renewed pressure to produce all of his authentic marriage certificates, believed to number in the thousands.
 CheshireCatalyst
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Posted: 4/27/2011 9:47:19 AM
@RPL55

You must really be reaching for material if you have to resuscitate posts from another thread. I think you should release a profile pic that inclusively depicts your hairline. Heretofore referred to as the “long form profile pic.” I want to be sure that your hair wasn’t birfed on a lion’s a$$ in Kenya.

See, I can use my powers for a greater cause!

We all know that it won't end here. Anyone know what Orly Taitz thinks? Trump now wants President Obama's transcripts from Occidental College because he believes Obama was a bad student and there is no way he could have transferred into Columbia and gotten into Harvard Law.

It’s both sad and funny that the only hateful things you hear about him pretty much come from Americans.
 4rumninja
Joined: 11/30/2009
Msg: 125
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Posted: 4/27/2011 9:49:49 AM
Really? I guess that makes sense since we are the ones most immediately effected by his policies.
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