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 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 127
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HFX you do a wonderful albeit deceitful job of ignoring basic facts and truths. Then you attempt to slander everyone on here who does not agree with your hate filled bile.

At least you agree on the Christianity thing but keep talking about martians anyway it's entertaining to read your sad rants. Also thank you for dropping the bj thingy, you are growing my friend.

Who has given that kid a pass?
Who is ignoring that the kid abused his sisters?
Did he not go through the courts?
The fact is he did go before the courts for his actions and the court passed judgement in the case. Also according to the state laws the records should have been sealed because of the minor victims.

If there are others then that is up to the police to investigate.

As for the Duggar children I will take them on their word.
Your attempts to slander them, the victims here shows that your hatred knows no boundary.

It is not defending Josh Duggar in any way to say that the person who released juvenile files also committed a crime.
The children of the Duggar's who were assaulted seem to be pretty normal and have forgiven their brother.
Yet that simple fact eats away at you.
How dare these "Christian" young ladies who are so well adjusted practice Christian faith and make you feel so small.

Congratulations to these young ladies for growing up achieving forgiveness and best wishes for their future.
As for Josh Duggar he seems to have turned his life around from the mistakes he made as a juvenile. This is why they have juvenile court, for rehabilitation.
Can you please pray to your little martian that you refer to so often, that he (Josh) stays on the right path!
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 128
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Posted: 6/5/2015 8:33:31 AM

HFX you do a wonderful albeit deceitful job of ignoring basic facts and truths.


Josh Duggar molest several girls on multiple occasions and his parents attempted to cover it up.

That is the facts of the case.




Then you attempt to slander everyone on here who does not agree with your hate filled bile.


Cool story, real shame you could not produce any proof of that.




Can you please pray to your little martian that you refer to so often, that he (Josh) stays on the right path!


Yep will do, and while I am at it I will ask it so make sure that douche bags who attempt to defend the actions of a child molester actions, get theirs as well.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 129
The Weiner scandal and the Duggars....
Posted: 6/5/2015 9:27:40 AM

Josh Duggar molest several girls on multiple occasions and his parents attempted to cover it up.

That is the facts of the case.


Perhaps they did there certainly was a delay in the report to the police.
But again the offences went through the courts.
So it's a settled matter.

Now the next case may be the disclosure of the juvenile records and according to the judge, this should not have been done.

As for Josh Duggar and his family they will pay a heavy price for that disclosure and therefore may have a lawsuit.
I hope there are no other victims .

As for the other "douche bags"... see you just can't help yourself.
At east you started off well.
God Bless!
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 130
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Posted: 6/5/2015 9:58:21 AM

Perhaps they did there certainly was a delay in the report to the police.


Perhaps?

His parents waited years and then lied about the full extent.




But again the offences went through the courts.
So it's a settled matter.


So he stood in-front of a judge and was sentenced accordingly for his actions?





As for Josh Duggar and his family they will pay a heavy price for that disclosure and therefore may have a lawsuit.


Yes because before they could have kept acting like hypocrites and no one would have had any proof that one of the Duggars is a child molester.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 131
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Posted: 6/5/2015 10:34:19 AM
Some updates on the facts:

Duggar Interview: 7 Crucial Facts They Didn’t Tell You — The Cover-Up Continues
Jun 4, 2015 1:37PM | by In Touch Weekly

1) One of the most glaring omissions by the family concerns their statements about the 2006 Springdale Police Department investigation. The Duggars gave the viewing audience the impression that they fully cooperated, saying, “We trusted them, we trusted the police department.” But the Springdale police report, obtained by In Touch through FOIA, reveals that Jim Bob refused to produce Josh for a police-requested interview and stopped cooperating with the probe.

2) When discussing the legal situation surrounding Josh’s confession of molestation, Jim Bob told Fox News that he and Michelle were “not mandatory reporters, the law allows parents to do what they think is best for their child.” Not so. While they are not mandatory reporters, the law does not allow them to do what they think is best for their child in this situation, multiple legal experts tell In Touch.

By not reporting the at-least SEVEN instances of abuse on at least THREE occasions during a period of more than a year, they could have faced felony charges for child endangerment, with a six-year prison term.

3) Jim Bob suggested the records of Josh’s crimes were released because the Springdale police chief, Kathy O’Kelley, may have taken a bribe. The records were obtained through Arkansas' Freedom of Information Act, which is one of the most liberal open records laws in the country, according to the state’s attorney general.

4) Jim Bob and sympathetic host Megyn Kelly repeatedly referred to the records as being “illegally released.” Not so, say legal experts. That claim is “disputed by the law enforcement agencies involved, the Arkansas Press Association and attorneys with expertise in public-document cases involving the state's Freedom of Information Act,” according to the Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette.

5) The Duggars did not address the fact that they were investigated by the Department of Human Services after the 2006 police probe was terminated due to the statute of limitations. They have not said what the results of the DHS investigation were.

6) Megyn Kelly said that the Duggars “hadn’t gotten a heads-up” about the release of Josh’s police report and the Duggars did not dispute that. But In Touch has obtained documents that show the city of Springdale alerted them before releasing the records. The law does not require the city to alert someone before their records are released pursuant to a FOIA request.

7) Jim Bob made it clear that he took Josh to talk to the police and randomly happened to end up with Trooper Jim Hutchens. (Hutchens is now serving a 56-year-prison term on child pornography charges, as reported exclusively by In Touch magazine.)

But Hutchens was interviewed from prison by a representative from a local law firm hired by In Touch and contradicts Jim Bob’s story. He said he knew Jim Bob well from his job and had even taught a couple of classes to car dealerships with him. In addition, Hutchens – who was not promised anything in return for his interview and told only that it was part of an investigation – said that Jim Bob specifically sought him out to talk to Josh.


Read the rest at:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggar-interview-7-crucial-facts-they-didn-t-tell-you-the-cover-up-continues-59917
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 132
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Posted: 6/5/2015 1:36:55 PM
Funny, HFX seems to be a hater. Yet , he is never chastised for his anti White statements of racial hatred. His anti Christian rants seem to appear more frequently than any other opines. Is this poster subject to posting twice every 10 posts as well? Why does this poster keep shilling for gays to control government , church and media? Why must White Christians be forced to to accept assimilation?
 trinity818
Joined: 9/1/2006
Msg: 133
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Posted: 6/5/2015 2:07:02 PM
I fail to see the relevance of the Duggars race in this disgraceful display of ignorance.

The parents have their daughters believing it was "no big deal" getting fondled repeatedly in the middle of the night by their big brother, while they were "safely" tucked into bed . After all, he didn't rape (penetrate) them!

Loving family my azz. Only if you were Josh Duggar. Heaven forbid you were one of their daughters. Apparently, their mental health is "inconsequential".

This is how they think Christian people should handle this disgusting behavior? Honestly?

It positively slays me how people are carrying on about the morality of gays and Caitlyn Jenner, but then have "no comment" about this disgraceful family. WTF is wrong with people?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 134
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Posted: 6/5/2015 2:20:16 PM

I fail to see the relevance of the Duggars race in this disgraceful display of ignorance.


Yanno Trin, there's only one poster attempting to bring race into the discussion...it's a gross fail on his part.


The parents have their daughters believing it was "no big deal"


Well, it does, from their point of view, justify their failure to parent.


After all, he didn't rape (penetrate) them!


That would be his and his parents story...I have my doubts and think we'll never know the truth.


It positively slays me how people are carrying on about the morality of gays and Caitlyn Jenner, but then have "no comment" about this disgraceful family. WTF is wrong with people?


It is another example of what is wrong with the uber-conservative right....to them, everything to the middle and left is what's wrong with the country...regardless of facts...and the made up "facts" of the uber-conservative right...are gospel.
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 136
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Posted: 6/5/2015 5:07:12 PM
So what does this angry lynch mob think of the cosby rapes? Was HFX hiding? Wait , don't tell me , a bill shill !!!!! Simply put ; non Whites and non Christians , as usual , get a free pass.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 137
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Posted: 6/5/2015 5:13:49 PM
You know, you could have just done a thread search about Bill Cosby. You're kind of a one note, whiny, white male.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 139
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Posted: 6/5/2015 5:57:54 PM

So what does this angry lynch mob think of the cosby rapes?


Duh, well it's not what the thread is about, but I'll bite. If true, Cosby is scum.


non Whites and non Christians , as usual , get a free pass.


Cosby is a Christian (Methodist and Baptist.) Of course, as a dumb fvck, you wouldn't know this. Regarding the free pass-I think not. Cosby is persona non grata is nearly all of the media and is being sued in civil court (perhaps many times.)

Another one syllable dumb fvck white supremacist.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 140
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Posted: 6/5/2015 6:04:36 PM
Those who were waiting for the grifter to give her 2 cents wait no more, and for those who like irony, you are in for a treat.


Sarah Palin says you're spitting on American soldiers' graves by criticizing the Duggars
Updated: Jun 05, 2015 4:30 PM AST
By Jessica Roy

..."Such obvious double standards applied to equally relevant stories underestimate the wisdom of the public, discredit the press, and spit on the graves of every American who fought and died for the press's freedom," Palin writes.

You hear that? If you think Josh Duggar is disgusting and his parents facilitated his molestation, you hate the troops. They died for your right to freedom of speech, and you're using that speech in a way Sarah Palin disagrees with, so YOU'RE the true hypocrite.

Not that she's defending the Duggars or anything.

http://www.nbc12.com/story/29246186/there-she-goes-again-sarah-palin-says-youre-spitting-on-american-soldiers-graves-by-criticizing-the-duggars
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 141
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Posted: 6/5/2015 6:50:38 PM
I wondered where this Lena Dunham stuff was coming from, I don't know anything about her but seems she wrote a book and discusses some sexual things she did as a 7 year old with and/or around her toddler sister, and Sarah Palin is now on a crusade to have Lena sent to hell to save poor Josh Duggar. Since I have not read what Lena said, I don't know what I think of her, but the implication seems to be, the Palin troops, that liberals just want the Duggars called out because they are good ole white Christians. If Dunham did harm her sister, by all means investigate her, but that doesn't change anything about what's going on with the Duggars.

It's not that liberals (because anyone not pro-Duggar is now a liberal) only want to know why all of this happened in the Quiverfull church that Josh Duggar was hidden, not sent to any counseling, and then when he continued to molest his sisters, he was sent to a policeman who is now in prison for child pornography, while some of the leaders in Quiverfull are known pedophiles and had girls in the Quiverfull church say he raped them/molested them, and nothing was done. Why are there several known, one convicted, pedophiles involved in Jim Bob's life, involved in the counseling & rehab that Jim Bob said Josh went to when in fact he did not. So all these liberals (anyone not praising the Duggars) are after Christianity, when in fact a lot of people, of all parties, all religions, no religion, etc., want to know why this was all covered up and not being lied about still. All of us are of course, a threat to these odd religious cults that Palin and the Duggars belong too. And how stupid is Palin, does she really think all conservatives are religious and all liberals are atheists? Because that's just plain ridiculous.

It's not that people think that Josh is some evil spawn, it's that what he did, many times, over a few years (and not the little blip in time that Jim Bob likes to toss out) it's that he received no help, none at all. He was hid, made to do some construction work and then taken to a pedophile for a stern talking to. People want to know why Jim Bob hid it while he was running for office, why he continued to hide it, and why now he's still talking about it like it was handled, when it was not. And even more people want to know why the molested girls did not get help, are being forced to say what Jim Bob tells them to, etc, .and after more info came out a lot of people want to know about these kids rights, and their lack of education and just how deeply involved is this church, police force, and church members of all this pedophilia, how deep does it go.

And all the while the Duggars are busy, Josh was in DC, Jim Bob & Michelle were spewing all over, about how gay people, and now transgender because oh my! Bruce Jenner is now Caitlyn Jenner, all hell is breaking loose and somehow these people not being straight white Christian good ole boys are going to rape your children! When in fact, most people want to know about the safety of Josh's children/younger sisters because Josh has never had any professional therapy.
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 143
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Posted: 6/6/2015 7:32:33 AM

Caitlyn Jenner = Bad
Fondling a 5 year old = Acceptable
They both have mental disorders.

Glad you admit that Jenner is Bad, it is a terrible example to set to praise someone with a mental disorder who chose to mutilate his genitalia and act as if he has done something heroic.
 newoldgirl
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 144
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:10:54 AM

HFX. Why do you ignore certain aspects of the law? Statute of limits not withstanding. You don't have the facts . Your hatred of Christians and self racial hatred comes to the surface.


I'm not sure people have an issue with the Duggar's being Christian. I think it's the hypocrisy ( or to be fair, the appearance of hypocrisy) that gets people riled up. The family has presented themselves as this wholesome, morally superior entity, but now it appears there was some sinning going on, and furthermore, there are questions around how they dealt with the sin ( which was not only a sin, but a crime).
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 145
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:56:28 AM

it is a terrible example to set to praise someone with a mental disorder who chose to mutilate his genitalia

Oh really...?!? and why is that horrible...? even people with "mental disorders" have rights... and guess what... self-mutilation isn't unlawful, illegal or even generally considered immoral (except by some Christians)... Generally, people are perfectly free to self-mutilate... they do it all the time and call it "art" and are "celebrated" for it... they do it all the time and call it "my choice" and are "celebrated" for it...

Please give us some valid reason why only transgender people don't have the same right to mutilate themselves... I mean beyond your fear that you may unknowingly have sex with them and be magically transformed... as if by a vampire's bite... into a homosexual...
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 147
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Posted: 6/8/2015 3:42:26 PM
All these stories whether they be about Caitlyn/Bruce, Josh or Denny and all the self righteous commentators on both sides of the aisle can be addressed by the immortal lyrics of the great Hank Williams...

"Mindin' other people's business seems to be high-toned
I got all that I can do just to mind my own
Why don't you mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
If you mind your own business, you'll stay busy all the time."

Or more to our times I like what Linsdsey Graham had to say...

“If Caitlyn Jenner wants to be safe and have a prosperous economy, vote for me,”
“I’m into addition,” Graham said. “I haven’t walked in her shoes. I don’t have all the answers to the mysteries of life. I can only imagine the torment that Bruce Jenner went through. I hope he’s—I hope she has found peace. I’m a pro-life, traditional-marriage kind of guy. But I’m running to be president of the United States. If Caitlyn Jenner wants to be a Republican, she is welcome in my party.”
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 148
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Posted: 6/8/2015 3:51:32 PM
Seriously? First, there's already a thread about ms Jenner. So most of your post is in the wrong place. But do you actually think we don't have a responsibility to condemn sexual abuse of children? I'm willing to bet if I went through your posting history I would find you far from unconcerned over much smaller things.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 149
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Posted: 6/8/2015 4:27:07 PM
I guess you don't understand that none of these have anything to do with left or right values. Or that all these posters are very selective in who they condemn. Losing their shirts over the opposition and ignoring the dirty deeds of their ideological brethren.
Please explain how a thread that started in 2011 about "Weiner" includes Josh Duggar in the title?
Anyone?
But thank you Half for being the arbitrator on valued posts you prove my point exactly in the meantime I will add it to the other thread.

Thank you Trinity but it sounds odd all the same.
 trinity818
Joined: 9/1/2006
Msg: 150
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Posted: 6/8/2015 4:40:35 PM

Please explain how a thread that started in 2011 about "Weiner" includes Josh Duggar in the title?
Anyone?


The OP of this thread has been deleted. It was started by "organicquestionmark", not "motowncowgirl". The mods probably wiped everything he/she had posted at some point. The first entry in this thread is message # 3.

It didn't mention "Josh Duggar". It mentioned "the Duggars..."
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 151
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Posted: 6/8/2015 9:48:03 PM
Oprah Winfrey took swift action when her production company got a tip that Josh Duggar had molested young girls, including some of his sisters, refusing to go through with a scheduled appearance on her talk show.

As we reported, the first tip about Josh Duggar was sent to a staffer at Harpo. The email was received on December 7, 2006 at 6:30 AM. The email not only refers to the molestation, the author also claims Jim Bob and Michelle covered it up.

Oprah's people sent the email to a child abuse hotline.

The Duggars were already in Chicago for the taping, which was scheduled within a day of the email. Oprah's staff jumped so quickly, we've learned at 1:17 PM the same day, an Arkansas State Police officer contacted Michelle, telling her she needed to bring Josh back home immediately for an interview.

Turns out there was no conflict, because Oprah's people immediately cancelled the taping and sent the family home.

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/news-political-forum/105874-oprah-knew-decade-ago-what-republicans-pretend-not-know-about-duggar-family-print.html
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So in 2006 this info was known, I know I'd heard about this years ago but then it seemed to be all covered up. But yes, someone posting in 2011 could have heard of problems within the Duggar family then. Also, and I don't have the dates or any quotes, but the leader of the Quiverfull church that the Duggars belong to has been complained about by girls in the church for molesting them. So there's that info that people may have picked up on some time back, notice the Duggars never seem to say Quiverfull on TV or in interviews, none that I've seen anyway. Looking up the practices of Quiverfull and those who have left it, one can see how much control the males have and how little safety the girls have from any pedophiles among them.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 152
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Posted: 6/9/2015 2:03:36 AM
I don't see where anyone defended child molesting.
secondly,the whole purpose of the juvenile justice system is to "cover"the crimes of juveniles.
I wonder whether the arguments here fall into the childless and raised in a religion othtian than chritian versus . . .
And of course the bigger the family the higher the odds of something likethis. If someone selected twenty one of you, odds are. .
 robaustralia
Joined: 12/1/2014
Msg: 153
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Posted: 6/9/2015 2:28:49 AM
Of course what Duggar did when he was 14 yo was totally wrong.

However, has he ever reoffended? Some of you people are making out like he has been a life long child molester and just recently got caught for some extensive history of sex offences. At least his patents did eventually report it to the Police, they didn't have to and I'm sure many parents would not have.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 154
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Posted: 6/9/2015 5:44:55 AM

I don't see where anyone defended child molesting.


Nope, they are defending the actions or lack there of, with regards to the parents of the molester.

As you would have to be functionally retarded not to see that they did everything they could to make sure this was nothing more than a minor inconvenience and would not interfere with political aspirations with little to no regard for the victims.




....secondly,the whole purpose of the juvenile justice system is to "cover"the crimes of juveniles.


No, it is to help kids that may have acted inappropriately a chance to put their lives right.




I wonder whether the arguments here fall into the childless and raised in a religion othtian than chritian versus . . .


Well wonder no more, as it has been proven that:

-higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy, and abortion in the prosperous democracies.

http://globalhealth.washington.edu/docs/Bezruchka%202.pdf




And of course the bigger the family the higher the odds of something likethis. If someone selected twenty one of you, odds are. .


What does that have to do with his parents attempting to sweep it under the rug?

Though that said, based on the statements of Jim Bob these things of things are not uncommon in this particular cult.

Jim Bob Duggar: Molestation Is Common In Christian Families (VIDEO)

As Jim Bob Duggar spoke while his subservient wife stayed quiet, he claimed that child molestation is common in Christian families, especially the families he sought advice from in the wake of learning that Josh molested four of his own sisters while they slept.

http://reverbpress.com/news/jim-bob-duggar-molestation-common-christian-families-video/
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 155
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Posted: 6/9/2015 7:48:58 AM
^Don't be a hater dude. How much of your time have you wasted hating on your own race and Christians? LOL. How more anti White can one person be? That's your identity problem , not mine. You can stay in old amerika. Oh , wait , you didn't get there , did you? Just as well. But please stop the hate ; just separate.
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