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 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
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How complicated do you think it is to keep a vagina clean?

I don't know. I don't have one and the only regularly scheduled maintenance I'm ususally involved with doesn't have much to do with cleaning (except as pretext for other service). By the time I check under the hood, everything has generally already been power washed. Does this have anything to do with why women always head to the restroom in groups?

We get training in how to clean, buff and make sparkly our pretty little vag.

And those of us do detailed inspections close up, appreciate the clean, buff and sparkle.
 Yew4ics
Joined: 9/30/2010
Msg: 77
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:43:32 AM
I -do- stay away from the unclean ones, and there are a fair share of them out there. I've never heard of a man's genitals being associated with dead trout.


ANYBODY who doesn't keep clean down there is going to smell bad. Have you ever had a whiff of sweaty, and unwashed testicles? Maybe your own, when you haven't washed? Those balls will stick to your leg if they get hot and sweaty enough. But you didn't know that, right?@@@@@... Ever get a look and smell of some smeggie, as Kitten mentioned? People who dont wash stink all over, plain and simple.
As to my response to Gentleplus...he apparently had partners who weren't clean about themselves. No argument here from me. People who dont clean themselves smell nasty. But it isn't a female thing. THAT'S the part youre way off about.
 ted61
Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 78
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:45:56 AM
Gynocology is a whole speciality of medicine dealing with problems of the vagina. Infections, etc. There are a lot of gynos and they all seem to make a good living $$$$. Obviously the vagina must not be as trouble free as advertised on this thread.

A male specialist is a urologist and they deal primarily with prostate problems. And that is usually because it is shutting off the free flow of urine. Natural ageing problem, Very little infection problems.

Any Doctor will tell you the vulva/vagina is a perfect "petri dish" for bacteria. Warm, dark, moist with mucus and debris to feed bacteria. I have nothing against women, but ladies, this is a argument you can't win.
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
Msg: 79
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:50:49 AM
Face it.......unless a woman has just stepped out of the shower.....
there is going to be a natural musky smell. It's just the nature of the beast!
You either like it......or you don't.
making it sound like women are dirty because of this natural muskines......is just showing your truly aren't the oral lover you say you are!

just how peachy do you think a penis smells after being trapped in some tighty whities for a few hours?
 Yew4ics
Joined: 9/30/2010
Msg: 80
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:58:01 AM

Any Doctor will tell you the vulva/vagina is a perfect "petri dish" for bacteria. Warm, dark, moist with mucus and debris to feed bacteria. I have nothing against women, but ladies, this is a argument you can't win.


I have had my share of female problems. Wearing a wet bathing suit for too long will mess me up down there with a urinary infection. Then the antibiotic I take for the bladder infection, which was caused by the wet bathing suit, will cause me a yeast infection, which means medication for that too. My argument was simply that an unkept vagina isn't any nastier than a smeggy penis, and sweaty testicles. An unkept body is nasty no matter the gender.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 81
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Posted: 7/11/2011 12:08:16 PM
Face it.......unless a woman has just stepped out of the shower.....
there is going to be a natural musky smell. It's just the nature of the beast!

It's a matter of degree and some women are muskier than others. At some point, it becomes less than thrilling, but I've noticed that women who are completely shaved are better in that regard than women who aren't. I've been with women who were fresh at night from a morning shower and some who weren't.

You either like it......or you don't.
making it sound like women are dirty because of this natural muskines......is just showing your truly aren't the oral lover you say you are!

Too much of a good thing is not necessarily better.

just how peachy do you think a penis smells after being trapped in some tighty whities for a few hours?

It probably depends on how much he's shaved and other factors that like sweating and how much moisture accumulates, just like it does for women.

Ever get a look and smell of some smeggie

No, I'm circumsized and quite happy that is not an issue for me.
 ted61
Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 82
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Posted: 7/11/2011 12:21:49 PM
A vulva/vagina doesn't have to be "unkempt" to have an unbalance of bacteria and then get an infection. As you stated, something as simple as wearing a wet bathing suit can make things go wrong. You are simly making my point that a vulva/vagina is much more at risk for problems due to the anatonomical structures. This does not mean you are "dirty" or whatever.

Where are you seeing these "smeggy" penises? I own one and have yet to have smegma "cake up" on the outside. Examine one close. No mucus or sweat glands on the glans to generate mucus or bacteria "food."

After I place it in a bacteria filled vagina, then when done, merely walk to a sink and with soap and water, one minute later I am clean, dry aand relativly bacteria free again! (this last paragraph is just me being a smart ass)
 gentleplus
Joined: 9/8/2008
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Posted: 7/11/2011 12:22:30 PM
Boys and girls lets all just calm down just a little.....

Let me clarify.... of those 4... I had to educate 3 were college educated and 1 had a masters in of all things... home economics and was a teacher of family living in schools... sad but true..... The last one I educated was a 59 yr old in 2004.... the first one was a college student of my age (20s) in 1979.. so school education level, age, or social standing didn't matter...

I think most of the issues had to do with their body image framework that sees body functions as dirty or to be secret and undiscussed.... as you might expect I gave each of them a finger sniff test prior to indulging in oral pleasures.....

Each of them were rather put off by the implication they were not good enough (clean) for me to be with.... I of course assured them that it was just a "freshening up" for us both and not a rejection...

The biggest problem if the entire area of the vagina/penis is not "freshened" prior to intimacy the chances of irritation and infection increases especially for women who don't lubricate really well during sex...

Those women who interact in this forum are very body aware and tuned into body functions to the highest degree possible.... so any woman who feels slighted here has a basis to say.... "not me" .... and is correct..... but I think the thread addresses a more general population and is not represented here at all..... IMHO

PS.... smeggy penis is usually only associated with uncircumcised.... I am cut and never ever had this issue in my life
 justapaidtourist
Joined: 6/28/2011
Msg: 84
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Posted: 7/11/2011 12:41:48 PM
as an ole fart.........i want the woman as happy as me. don't take this wrong. but some women just stink n its nasty......but the suggestion would be, they make flavors..at any adult store......then your partner wouldn't have an excuse. just my opinion
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 7/11/2011 1:21:26 PM

Where are you seeing these "smeggy" penises? I own one and have yet to have smegma "cake up" on the outside. Examine one close. No mucus or sweat glands on the glans to generate mucus or bacteria "food."


Unclean is unclean........whether it's a penis or a vagina.......and whether you are circumsized.....or not cut.
Even a cut man has places that can grow bacteria if he doesn't wash properly........unless you are fully erect at all times!

not all women get infections either.....having a vagina doesn't automatically equate to getting them. I haven't had an infection in almost 30 years......since I quit wearing panties and started shaving. And many women haven't ever had an infection....no matter what they wear or how they "groom".

once again........you either like to give oral......or you don't.
yes, I understand some people aren't "clean"........but it is definately not gender specific......so please stop acting like the penis is much more lickable just because it protrudes!
 gentleplus
Joined: 9/8/2008
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Posted: 7/11/2011 1:35:12 PM
"Even a cut man has places that can grow bacteria if he doesn't wash properly........unless you are fully erect at all times!"

Sooo thats why I am soooo clean..... go figure ..... here I thought that a well lubricated vagina was nature's "carwash"..... LOLOLOL
 Pingshooter
Joined: 3/15/2009
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Posted: 7/11/2011 1:38:27 PM

Also lets him know what you like done to you in advance so there is no let down. Men aren't mind readers hun..Tell him what you want & don't be shy!


Thank you. Nicely put, my compliments.
 Archangel_07
Joined: 6/21/2010
Msg: 88
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Posted: 7/11/2011 3:20:11 PM
LOL well lubricated vagina nature's carwash Gentleplus don't kill me.

I hate the double standard thing on oral sex. I'm all down for going down on a woman's **** and lick her out as long as she's clean down there, just as much as she's down for sucking on chocolate as long as I'm clean and I am. No chocolate sucking, no **** licking. End of discussion.
 Yew4ics
Joined: 9/30/2010
Msg: 89
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Posted: 7/11/2011 3:44:59 PM

please stop acting like the penis is much more lickable just because it protrudes!


Thanks Micki. That's pretty much what I was trying to get at. This thread is actually hilarious.
 NYMAN123123
Joined: 7/24/2009
Msg: 90
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Posted: 7/11/2011 4:01:47 PM
You haven't met the right guy yet.

Probably haven't had that experience, maybe???
 goodquestion
Joined: 6/29/2005
Msg: 91
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Posted: 7/11/2011 4:24:04 PM

Those balls will stick to your leg if they get hot and sweaty enough.

This is a fact the way it is described sounds like it was experienced, it's one of those things you can just see happening Not that you would want to.
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 92
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Posted: 7/11/2011 5:19:59 PM

(barefootkitten) Funny how you imply a penis is clean, yet I've seen several (which, for me, was reason to leave), that had smegma around it. For something that is SO easy to clean, there's no reason there should EVER be smegma unless the person doesn't wash properly....


Smegma is a natural bodily product, designed to keep the head of The L'il So'jer moist. If Gawd had been smart, He'd have made it smell and taste like chocolate...

Arlo...
 dd3va
Joined: 11/18/2008
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Posted: 7/11/2011 8:33:00 PM
I can count one one hand how many men have done it to me AS MUCH as I have done it to them. I am by no means a big ole ho, but I have been divorced for 12 years. It's never good when you count on it, only when you don't expect it.
 Josh_H_83
Joined: 6/22/2011
Msg: 94
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Posted: 7/11/2011 9:36:27 PM
I think this all depends on the single person and you cant classify all as one here.

As long as the females nice and clean down there, no yucky smell, any man who doesnt like to give then must be nuts.. lol
 djhsr67
Joined: 6/27/2008
Msg: 95
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Posted: 7/11/2011 10:18:36 PM
You Ladies are with the wrong men then. There is nothing hotter then your face deep your hands on her hips feeling her move without control your back arching because I hit just the right spot. Sorry for you but a lot of men love to go down, Getting it return is great but not my first want
 djhsr67
Joined: 6/27/2008
Msg: 96
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Posted: 7/11/2011 10:21:07 PM
I rather give the recieve
 barefootkitten
Joined: 12/17/2009
Msg: 97
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Posted: 7/11/2011 10:35:04 PM

Smegma is a natural bodily product, designed to keep the head of The L'il So'jer moist.
I understand it's a natural body product, but so sh!t...just because it's natural doesn't mean I want it in my mouth. Some people here have implied that a woman is dirty because of the natural things her body does to keep her vagina healthy, so why is it okay on a man and not on a woman? As I've said before, if you're not interested in oral, don't do it...but at least own it that it's not your bag instead of passing it off as if it's the woman's fault because she's somehow "dirty".
 mrcs84
Joined: 12/9/2008
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Posted: 7/11/2011 10:43:52 PM
so why is it okay on a man and not on a woman?
It's not okay, per se. It's just an easier task for a man to maintain himself. We've already had testimonies on this very thread about women who maintain themselves and still get infections. Having gross genitals is definitely not gender specific, but it most certainly is more common amongst women.

Everyone should do a search on "Blue Waffle." Looks just...lovely
 crazyredneckromeo
Joined: 6/21/2011
Msg: 99
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Posted: 7/11/2011 10:49:22 PM
No Double standards on Oral here ,,,,, my moto is i will lick you into the deepest of orgasm you can have you will claw the walls before i am done giving you the tongue..
 barefootkitten
Joined: 12/17/2009
Msg: 100
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Posted: 7/11/2011 10:56:34 PM

It's not okay, per se. It's just an easier task for a man to maintain himself. We've already had testimonies on this very thread about women who maintain themselves and still get infections. Having gross genitals is definitely not gender specific, but it most certainly is more common amongst women.
You've also had testimony from at least one woman (me) who maintains herself and has NEVER had any infection whatsoever. It's not that hard to keep a vagina clean. Water and a washcloth....doesn't sound much different that what a man would use...If you find vaginas "gross", then maybe you should avoid them.
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