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 Jazzfan3000
Joined: 2/15/2012
Msg: 126
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I dont think a body with two heads is attractive.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 127
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 6:42:52 AM
It's supposed to a marriage, a partnership, not a dictatorship, no matter how benevolent.

I don't want to have total control over everything. I certainly don't know it all, and don't presume to act like I do.

Relationships are supposed to be partners, side by side. I want a partner who compliments me, who will work hand in hand with me, and I her.
 Jazzfan3000
Joined: 2/15/2012
Msg: 128
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 6:58:32 AM
How does being the head of your household equate to a dictatorship? The president is head of executive branch not the dictator of it. Are you saying the Secretary of state or the VP have no influence or say so? They do and so does a wife. If you arent fit to lead then ya know leave office or you will be voted out.
 --Zen--
Joined: 6/29/2011
Msg: 129
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 7:14:42 AM
Things began changed (why? not sure) but financial burdens became a little too tight for dad's income alone and so mom went out there to find a little job.. before long, came the *bra* revolution, I think that's what it was called, where women, (I believe it started greatly by a Susan someone-or-other) decided women should have all the equal rights as men did. Yeh, I can see some validity to this issue , but I also believe we women burned our own bridges, for the long run, by demanding all this equal rights, I want what he has/gets, attitude.

Valuable incite majority seems to ignore. Why is always a good question. My American history isn't strong but I hear things ware tougher during Great Depression. The only correlation that makes logical sense and required to push women into workplace in the 60s was the Cold War. Soviets had substantial population advantage plus women in a workplace since 20s. Something had to be done to gain economical advantage especially after Soviets put a man in space. Naturally forced labor isn't gonna fly in 'free society' that's how subversion known as PCSW and feminism came to be.


you guys cannot breast feed and that should about say it all

This reminds me of Family Guy episode.


I have never , nor will ever, subscribe to this whole equal rights philosphy.
I ABSOLUTELY believe there are equal places of value for a woman and a man in this world, yet and sadly, these equal places of value, have long been distorted, misplaced and misunderstood for a long, long time now.

There are men who know how crucial it is to maintain balance but most are happy with current society. It's much easer to get laid and guys don't even have to work anymore because woman can do it. Toothless, declawed, domesticated cats that can do tricks to get treats. Guys can now live that perfect bachelor-playboy life without family or future. Happy days.
 Darkbutcomely
Joined: 4/20/2011
Msg: 130
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 7:32:46 AM

Guys can now live that perfect bachelor-playboy life without family or future. Happy days.


Aint it funny how nature equals all things out?? Unmarried men die younger than married men. Guess to save us women from old horn dogs.
 grizzelda
Joined: 6/25/2006
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Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 7:51:17 AM
Wow, this thread got resurrected I see.

I am still blown away when some men and some women truly believe that having or not having a penis is some sort of magic ingredient as to whether or not you have the tools, skills or ability to be automatically considered qualified for anything. Other than pregnancy. There is no absolute qualifier that happens becasue someone has an innie vs an outie.

Perhaps it is the arrogance in these statements that I find most astonishing. Other than the bible, and the fact that women did not have the right to live their own lives without being controlled by a male up until the past 50 years or so, what does anyone base the argument that men "should" be the head of the houshold other than tradition?

There are millions upon millions of examples where men have shown that they do not have the skills, integrity or ability to be the head of cleaning urinals, let alone be the decider in a family. With all of the abundance of proof that a large percentage of men are not capable of the responsibility of heading a household, how does this myth still survive?
 Consigliori
Joined: 1/7/2008
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Posted: 2/21/2012 7:53:22 AM
I am the head of our household. I make all the important decisions, discipline the kids and I have the final word on every subject. At home I am the King of all I survey. - Until my wife comes home.

Honestly my wife makes most of the everyday decisions alone. She stays home with the kids. She decides what’s going to be done/purchased/paid/made/allowed/ordered/cleaned/repaired most of the time. I’m more like the “second opinion” guy for the difficult decisions.
 yorkslass
Joined: 4/30/2007
Msg: 133
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 8:14:52 AM
back in the day when the woman stayed at home to look after the kids and the man went to work and was the sole breadwinner then he was the head of the house, but in these days of equality noone is head of the house, its very sexist to say that
 CarKam1
Joined: 9/10/2011
Msg: 134
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 8:48:23 AM
@Mystikalme - Spot on. I completely agree with you. I like the idea of the Man being the head of the household and I would love nothing more than to take care of the house and kids and then my Man when he comes home. The reality is that that is just not do-able in todays times with the cost of living. Both of us make pretty good salaries but yet with the cost of daycare, gas, food and so on we are still living paycheck to paycheck. Woman just had to open their mouths and demand equal rights...what is the benefit of having to work 8-5, come home and cook, clean, take care of the kids and then your spouse? And how in Gods name has that benefited our children who now have to be brought up by strangers while we go out and work all day? Bravo woman, you really showed those men whose boss....now we get to work all day and then fit 8 hours of household chores and family time into 2 hours per night.

To me, head of the household means leading the family in the right direction even if it means being the bad guy. Making sure the bills are paid and food is in the cupboards, so being incharge of the budget whether you are a 1 salary household or 2. The discaplinary of the household. And if that man has a good woman waiting for him at home I'm certain he would do so with pleasure.
 452
Joined: 11/1/2009
Msg: 135
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/21/2012 3:55:06 PM
I have to laugh at those who look at the past through rose colored glasses.Ahhh the good ole days....They were not so very good if you actually had to live them.

Good men are in abundance.They have not gone anywhere.If one finds themselves always with bad men then the problem is with them,not with men in general.

I think that most men are relieved to no longer have to shoulder the burden alone.Everything no longer falls on them to decide all alone while the wife smiles blankly in the background.

Any woman who wants to go back to the days of being nothing more then one of the children can feel free to do so.I would rather be an adult.
 --Zen--
Joined: 6/29/2011
Msg: 136
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 12:10:03 AM

Unmarried men die younger than married men. Guess to save us women from old horn dogs.

Naturally all single men become old horn dogs. Would you like to hear some more useless statistics? Apparently android users are more promiscuous, women only have shelf life between 18 and 30 and conservatives have more satisfying sex life. Amusing indeed.


There are millions upon millions of examples where men have shown that they do not have the skills, integrity or ability to be the head of cleaning urinals, let alone be the decider in a family. With all of the abundance of proof that a large percentage of men are not capable of the responsibility of heading a household, how does this myth still survive?

wow. do you even like dyck? After misandric statement like that I doubt any man will want to do anything with you.


I think that most men are relieved to no longer have to shoulder the burden alone.Everything no longer falls on them to decide all alone while the wife smiles blankly in the background.

It is a relieve but at what price? Ask any man if they had to choose between hard labor and loosing their masculinity. Most will part with their limbs before losing their manhood. I've always had only one advice for women with men trouble: If you want a happy man, stroke his c0ck or stroke his ego.


Any woman who wants to go back to the days of being nothing more then one of the children can feel free to do so.I would rather be an adult.

Amusing but it seems mature women are ones who realize importance of natural balance between sexes.
 jeep1127girl
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 137
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 1:23:56 AM
Now abelian, where did you come up with that?
 SylvanSwan
Joined: 8/5/2008
Msg: 138
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 2:23:21 AM
MystikalMe
Yeh, I can see some validity to this issue , but I also believe we women burned our own bridges, for the long run, by demanding all this equal rights, I want what he has/gets, attitude.
I ABSOLUTELY believe there are equal places of value for a woman and a man in this world, yet and sadly, these equal places of value, have long been distorted, misplaced and misunderstood for a long, long time now.

Did you perhaps stop and think for a minute that NOT ALL women want babies and the picket fence and neat white house with a swing set in the yard? That some women actually looked at all their options and made choices that suited them better?

I can think of one place, I firmly believe women do not have a place in... and that's being a cop or a firefighter. Physically and perhaps mentally a woman is not made out to be either one of these....

That may be your opinion, but it is also a slap in the face for the women who are currently doing those jobs and doing them well. They chose those jobs for the same reason as men: To help people. I bet you think they shouldn't join the military either? Tsk tsk, what disrespect you have for your sister's in the trenches, shame on you!
At least they are getting the same pay as their male counterparts, something you failed to mention regarding the women's movement....

CarKam:
now we get to work all day and then fit 8 hours of household chores and family time into 2 hours per night.

Again, some women actually love their jobs and realize that their jobs/careers actually contribute something worthwhile in their lives.

To me, head of the household means leading the family in the right direction even if it means being the bad guy.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I'll happily be the head of my own household without some "bad guy" telling me how I have no say or whether my best interests are protected (or not).

My home environment is not up for anything but peaceful and serene (and clean and organized) and I will not accept anything less from a partner (or friends or family for that matter) who does not value or respects that. The day that I do have a partner, the last thing on our minds will be who gets to be the head of the household. Instead it will be how we get to thrive in our household.
 roylee42
Joined: 2/11/2012
Msg: 139
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 2:43:41 AM
"back in the day when the woman stayed at home to look after the kids and the man went to work and was the sole breadwinner then he was the head of the house, but in these days of equality noone is head of the house, its very sexist to say that"



Somebody has to be to some extent be it the man or woman. Even teams have a leader. The two of you can make all the decisions together but there are when it comes to a situation where you cannot agree and when crunch time hits somebody has to make the call. It's not perfect but that's the way things work.

I personally cannot stand being told to make all the decisions. If I wanted to have another kid I would just have one not get into a relationship with it.
 --Zen--
Joined: 6/29/2011
Msg: 140
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 6:40:16 AM
some women actually looked at all their options and made choices that suited them better?
That's all fine and dandy if it didn't influence society as a whole. Now female choices are 'put out' or 'get out' as the need for relationships and family has been pushed into obscurity. What man in his right mind would want to get married nowadays? I suppose it's a mans fault that I hear punk kids talking about assaulting women like they would a man because they are 'equal'? Perhaps you should look at this society objectively and judge it just as harshly as you do others. Adulterous, immoral me, I and my self culture that thrives on instant gratification, greed and misery.
 Consigliori
Joined: 1/7/2008
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Posted: 2/22/2012 8:23:11 AM

Even teams have a leader. The two of you can make all the decisions together but there are when it comes to a situation where you cannot agree and when crunch time hits somebody has to make the call. It's not perfect but that's the way things work.


Exactly right.
 grizzelda
Joined: 6/25/2006
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Posted: 2/22/2012 1:11:08 PM

wow. do you even like dyck? After misandric statement like that I doubt any man will want to do anything with you.


How do you figure that was a misandric statement. It is reality, there are millions of men that have abandoned their families and run off to a better deal, there are millions of men that have chosen booze or drugs over their families, there are millions of men that have physically abused their spouses and children. That isnt misandry, its stating a fact, and that fact is even more glaring when that old chestnut about men being the natural leader and the natural head of the household gets thrown out there. I am simply questioning why this myth continues to be held out there as some sort of truth, when the reality is that just because you have a penis, it doesnt give you magical powers.



Amusing but it seems mature women are ones who realize importance of natural balance between sexes.


What is this natural balance that you are speaking about? Please explain in detail that doesnt include generalities that are applicable to both sexes, I dont think you can, because there are no personality characteristics that are gender specific, anyone who believes that certain genetalia is a guarantee of certain personality characteristic is blowing hot air.
 MssCrystal
Joined: 2/11/2012
Msg: 143
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 3:12:03 PM
I believe both the male and female are a team thus both heads of the household. The poster who indicated that it should be the male who is the head of the home is clearly sexist and living back in the dark ages.
 c_deacon
Joined: 3/13/2005
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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:17:11 PM
Try it when you get divorced and working on equality.......one can take the dependent deduction and the other the head of household deduction......got to like equality!!....

And which one claims the head of household? I say it should be the one where the child(ren) live the most......that is only fair!

End of discussion!

cd..........
 WinningPrize
Joined: 3/21/2010
Msg: 145
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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:32:27 PM
I love your answer Mme Petunias ;)
 Darkbutcomely
Joined: 4/20/2011
Msg: 146
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 4:49:18 PM

Naturally all single men become old horn dogs.


Explain the sales of Viagra dude.
 Darkbutcomely
Joined: 4/20/2011
Msg: 147
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 4:52:40 PM

I can think of one place, I firmly believe women do not have a place in... and that's being a cop or a firefighter. Physically and perhaps mentally a woman is not made out to be either one of these....


EXCUSE me I was a correctional officer on Death Row in the state of TEXAS. I also walk amoung the inmates as a general population correctional officer. I WAS good at my job. They respected my word.
 Michelangelo1976
Joined: 1/18/2012
Msg: 148
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Posted: 2/22/2012 4:59:48 PM
It's like football. Quarterbacks are usually chosen by the fact that they have to be able to think and that is why men of a particular trait are chosen for that role.

Runningbacks are typically men who grew up on the learning of "snatch, grab, and run like hell!" and that is why the men who are runningbacks have the particular traits that THEY do.

Have a nice day.
 --Zen--
Joined: 6/29/2011
Msg: 149
Head of the household?
Posted: 2/22/2012 5:01:07 PM
It is reality, there are millions of men that have abandoned their families and run off to a better deal, there are millions of men that have chosen booze or drugs over their families, there are millions of men that have physically abused their spouses and children.

What reality do you live in? There are millions of women who have done the same. It's called ugly side of humanity. Stop living in a rosy glow of feminism and stop demonising men. Women are not perfect, men are not perfect. People are not perfect.


What is this natural balance that you are speaking about? Please explain in detail that doesnt include generalities that are applicable to both sexes, I dont think you can, because there are no personality characteristics that are gender specific, anyone who believes that certain genetalia is a guarantee of certain personality characteristic is blowing hot air.

Look up masculinity and femininity.
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
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Posted: 2/22/2012 5:37:43 PM
It's more bible b.s. "Head of the household" even the term makes me gag. pun NOT intended lol.
The thought process behind this is to keep women under control.
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