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 jediacctingman
Joined: 6/8/2011
Msg: 28
What do women want?Page 2 of 17    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17)
Online dating sites are skewed in a woman's favor.

Average looking women have a plethora of potential suitors. They can pass by all the average looking guys and go for the good looking ones.

Women have a vagina....men want that vagina and women can, for the most part, manipulate men using their vagina.

If men stopped putting that vagina on a pedestal, men would realize that women really don't offer that much to a man's life.

It's quite simple really.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 29
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 9:40:15 AM
Online dating sites are skewed in a woman's favor.

Not again... Dating sites are skewed toward men and women in different ways.

Average looking women have a plethora of potential suitors.

That isn't very useful if the plethora of potential suitors are not particularly interesting. The most below average man has a plethora of potential suitors, too - every woman to whom he care to write. See how useful it is to have a plethora of potential suitors.

They can pass by all the average looking guys and go for the good looking ones.

And this differs from men exactly how? Here's a tip. If you want to be at least average, the bar is pretty low. Just compose a contact message that is written at least as well as anyone who can squeak through an English as a Second Language course. I'm pretty average looking, I'm not very tall and I'm not exactly a social butterfly, but somehow, I managed to meet women and go on dates here. Strange, but true. If anything, women are less hung up on looks than guys. This is not to say that being awesomely good looking won't go a long way, only that it's possible to do pretty well if you're very average looking, but have a little intelligence, wit and of course, charm.

Women have a vagina....men want that vagina and women can, for the most part, manipulate men using their vagina.

Of course, to be manipulated, one must go along with the person doing the manipulating. You could always hire escorts to keep your libido in check and avoid that problem, though.

If men stopped putting that vagina on a pedestal, men would realize that women really don't offer that much to a man's life.

Well, if you've reached that conclusion, why not hire escorts? You can have a different vagina every time you want to get laid.
 flsunfun
Joined: 4/30/2011
Msg: 30
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 9:41:38 AM
LOL, well said and I second that!!!
 DivineBovine
Joined: 5/13/2005
Msg: 31
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What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 9:53:51 AM

Average looking women have a plethora of potential suitors


they don't, actually.

the stats have been posted by another big dating site and they indicate that the 20% "most beautiful" women get 80% of the emails.

so your ms. average fish does NOT have a "plethora of potential suitors".
 RazaMixta
Joined: 1/19/2011
Msg: 32
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 10:32:11 AM
Thank you sir for making it easy and entertaining for me to be clearer:


Women have a vagina....men want that vagina and women can, for the most part, manipulate men using their vagina.

^^^ This I don't want! and is the sort of man (dog?) I am constantly trying to avoid here in POF



If men stopped putting that vagina on a pedestal, men would realize that women really don't offer that much to a man's life.

^^^ this is the dangerous type I strongly advice my daughters to stay away from, and hope with all my heart my sons won't become like.

So based on the second quote you must be here for ... revenge?

 jediacctingman
Joined: 6/8/2011
Msg: 33
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 10:37:08 AM
"This I don't want! and is the sort of man (dog?) I am constantly trying to avoid here in POF"

Truth isn't always the neatest thing to hear. This is just my observation. Women ARE manipulative.....period. If any guy comes on here and says otherwise it's because he's gay or whipped.

"this is the dangerous type I strongly advice my daughters to stay away from, and hope with all my heart my sons won't become like."

Great, teach your daughters how to be self-entitling princess....men appreciate that.

"And this is the kind of thinking that makes the world a very complicated place"

I didn't make the rules. I choose to NOT let women manipulate me. There are some really cool women out there. Just like there are a lot of douchebaggery men.
 RazaMixta
Joined: 1/19/2011
Msg: 34
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 10:52:21 AM
jediacctingman :
Truth? Your observation?
They are not the same! The second or rather your opinion is more likely.
So you got manipulated by some nasty woman/women. Deal with it.
I also got manipulated and devalued by some men who think just like you, fortunately I refuse to think ALL men are azzholes.


Great, teach your daughters how to be self-entitling princess....men appreciate that.

I teach my children by example how to be responsible for themselves. I also tell them how unintelligent/useless/inflammatory sarcasm is!


didn't make the rules. I choose to NOT let women manipulate me. There are some really cool women out there. Just like there are a lot of douchebaggery men.

Rules? What rules?
The above statement is more like it.
 Easygoin68a
Joined: 5/17/2011
Msg: 35
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 10:56:52 AM
Mark Twain said it best: If you try to please all of the people all of the time, then none of the people will never be pleased. Well, something like that.

Find a gal that posts drinking icons on her messages. Chances are if the two of you go out, the more she drinks the better looking and funnier you will become...LOL
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 36
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 11:51:59 AM
I suspect most women want something different than other women, so there's no one answer.

What do I want? Good health, the ability and energy to pay my bills and live comfortably, a great network of family and friends, and the common sense to appreciate the good things that come my way others may not have.

If a guy comes along that I'm into, is into me and has certain traits, that's certainly a pleasant bonus - but not necessarily something that's missing in my life if it's not there.
 morta1ez
Joined: 9/3/2009
Msg: 37
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Posted: 7/23/2011 12:57:58 PM
I read somewhere the statement "women go for the most successful men they can attract and men go for the most attractive women they can afford", it sucks but there is some truth to that. I remember back in 1997 I was working for a company that was installing alarm systems in a bunch of gated communities about 3/4 of the homes were some 40-50 year old guy and a smoken hot 20-30 year old wife. And I am sure this surprises none of you. Now do I think all people are shallow? no. do I think all women was the same thing? no. but there are some things that attract a larger group than others.

You can take to male twins who have a very similar personalities, hobbies and interests but one is a lawyer and the other works the nightshift at burgerking, take a wild guess at who attracts the most women(thereby having a bigger pool to fish from).

Take twin females, all things being the same personality wise, both are very attractive but stayed single never had kids and kept her figure while the other one got married and divorced has 2 young children and is 40lbs heavier, take a wild guess which one gets asked out more.
 JD4Real29
Joined: 3/28/2011
Msg: 38
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 1:01:11 PM
Women don't want to date whiny men who post "nice guy" threads complaining about never getting dates.

Women don't want to date men who put themselves down, sound pathetic in their profiles, and have lost their enthusiasm and optimism about life.

Women don't want to date men who complain about their past relationships, complain about their jobs, their boss and their kids.

I'm dating a short, bald, average looking foreign man who can't spell worth a damn. He's attractive in my eyes because he has self-confidence, he's not defeated by life and our goals are similar.
 ilovetodance1234
Joined: 4/5/2011
Msg: 39
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 1:17:34 PM
It is amazing how much sarcasm and unkindness is out there. The individual asked a legitimate question and seems to be legitimately confused as to what women want. I for one, am also confused about what men want. I think we women want the same thing men do (or at least those who are not just looking for a "hook up"). We want to "connect" , feel the magic, receive and give respect, honesty, have and live with good values, have a sense of humor when appropriate.The list goes on. There are different levels of what we are seeking and different levels of what we will accept depending upon how we truly feel about that special person. Looks seem to be the initial attraction but hey what may be beautiful or handsome to one may not appeal to another. For me it is the whole package, not what you look like necessariy as I don't have a type that appeals to me, but what you have to offer i.e. your personality, how kind you are, your confidence level, (not too**** but just enough that you are confident), your values, your honesty, etc. That being said where is my fantasy guy, I am still waiting for you :)?
 merchantcarnival
Joined: 7/9/2011
Msg: 40
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 1:20:08 PM
You're also 49...different story.

In your 20s...the dating game is rigged in favor of "cool" people. If you're not outlandishly attractive, you have to be "cool" to make up for it...cool meaning make stupid jokes that aren't even funny, have a douche vibe about you, love to drink and party etc. .

Women's tastes change as they age. They stop partying and realize what matters most in a man...his character. They also have a more open idea of physical attraction. I get far more older women with their kids looking at me in public, and older women on dating sites receptive to talking to me, than women in the 18-29 range.

I think older women see the douches for who they are...have been there, done that...and would rather have a more conventionally all american good looking guy that isn't necessarily "smooth" than a guy that's going to abuse them and never grow up.

This is also backed up by the couples I see in public where I live. 20something couples...usually douchebag men (regardless of whether they're "hot"or not and regardless of how attractive the girl is) are with most women. You see 30-40 plus looking couples and see more regular guys (I define regular as not ugly/lazy/low self esteem...but decent/average looking, all around decent man) with more women of all attractiveness levels.
 Iced1071
Joined: 7/2/2011
Msg: 41
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 1:24:59 PM


So you liked my profile.


I actually thought a lot of it was hysterical, and clever..



Due to the wonders of genetic engineering and a vending machine condom, the miracles of science have produced "The MORTALEZ-1.0".


 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 42
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 2:28:47 PM

The individual asked a legitimate question and seems to be legitimately confused as to what women want.

You really think it's legitimate to ask what women want as if all women want the same thing?

We want to "connect" , feel the magic, receive and give respect, honesty, have and live with good values, have a sense of humor when appropriate.The list goes on.

If it were that obvious, everyone would have an easy time finding it. Sure, the list of cliches goes on and on, which is evident by reading 90% of the content free profiles out there.

There are different levels of what we are seeking and different levels of what we will accept depending upon how we truly feel about that special person. Looks seem to be the initial attraction but hey what may be beautiful or handsome to one may not appeal to another. For me it is the whole package, not what you look like necessariy as I don't have a type that appeals to me, but what you have to offer i.e. your personality, how kind you are, your confidence level, (not too**** but just enough that you are confident), your values, your honesty, etc. That being said where is my fantasy guy, I am still waiting for you :)?

Well, from what you've vaguely described as what women want, you're ``fantasy guy'' ought to be really easy to find. Maybe you omitted a few things.
 unclezeus
Joined: 5/12/2011
Msg: 43
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 2:53:04 PM
They want both; someone to make their girlfriends notice, and someone they can be happy with.

Not everyone is going to find a mate. Natural selection doesn't work that way.

There is big money to be made in the "Match making" game. Everybody is looking, but the sad truth is , not everyone can be with someone, nor should be.
 ilovetodance1234
Joined: 4/5/2011
Msg: 44
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Posted: 7/23/2011 2:57:43 PM
Wow so much sarcasm and bitterness. Abelian: The gentleman feels his question is legit thus it is to him. Cliches to you ---perhaps not to others.-- honestly what some people feel they are looking for such as personality traits are not cliches they are genuine and genuinely depict what and who a person is and what another person is seeking in their mate. There is nothing ambiquous or vague about my descriptions of what I feel (key word "I" feel) I am seeking or what others may be seeking. Perhaps you are jaded and just don't get it. Sorry. You are correct as actually I did leave out a few things....such as what I am NOT seeking which are as such (0r at least I will list a few) liar, hurtful and unkind sarcasm, spitefulness, bitterness, someone who badgers, someone who is so messed up they see nothing good in anything. Sorry but I prefer to seek the good in others not the bad and ugly. My reference to a "fantasy" guy was my bad attempt at humor. Hope you find what you want in life or at least in a partner.
 PasionLatina0529
Joined: 1/25/2009
Msg: 45
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Posted: 7/23/2011 3:09:28 PM
It isn't just women, dude.....men say the same thing..."laid back, funny, bla bla" And they ARE NOT God's gift to women. Average is norm. We all have qualities that someone wants it's just finding that person that we will mesh with. What may be appealing to you will be boring to someone else. All you can do is be yourself and enjoy your interests until you find someone that shares the same thing. Don't generalize that it's "all women".
 morta1ez
Joined: 9/3/2009
Msg: 46
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Posted: 7/23/2011 3:17:02 PM

Women don't want to date whiny men who post "nice guy" threads complaining about never getting dates.

Women don't want to date men who put themselves down, sound pathetic in their profiles, and have lost their enthusiasm and optimism about life.

Women don't want to date men who complain about their past relationships, complain about their jobs, their boss and their kids.

I'm dating a short, bald, average looking foreign man who can't spell worth a damn. He's attractive in my eyes because he has self-confidence, he's not defeated by life and our goals are similar.


Well I dont doubt you are a kind and true woman, but you must realise that with the vast number of nice guy threads there must be some truth to these statements, you see confidence is the result of success more than it is the cause of it. When i was in my teens and early 20's I was full of confidence, now not so much, why the difference ? well in my youth dating was easy, I just showed up tall, funny and creative, and I would be successful with women 80% of the time and all it took was kindness, honesty and and expressing my true feelings. I would get a partner who made me feel as if she valued me, and thought about me when i was or was not there, (which the latter was rare) Why am I not as confident now? Well no matter how kind, witty and honest I am my success rate in getting to the relationship stage is now closer to 10%, women I have gotten evolved with seem to not return what I give thus leaving me feeling unwanted while still claiming they want to be in a relationship with me. in those situations I feel like I have a place on their to-do list under hanging out with friends and just above clean the fridge.
So if you wonder why so many have little or no confidence? ask those that created them for we are all products of our experience.


I actually thought a lot of it was hysterical, and clever..


Due to the wonders of genetic engineering and a vending machine condom, the miracles of science have produced "The MORTALEZ-1.0".


Well I was adopted, my birth mother was 13 years old so I imagine if a condom was used at all, it most likely came from a vending machine.
 JD4Real29
Joined: 3/28/2011
Msg: 47
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 3:56:17 PM

women I have gotten evolved with seem to not return what I give thus leaving me feeling unwanted while still claiming they want to be in a relationship with me. in those situations I feel like I have a place on their to-do list under hanging out with friends and just above clean the fridge.


For many years I went through this type of experience with men and it did get my confidence down. I had to look within me to figure out what I was doing wrong in attracting or being attracted to these type of men.
 RazaMixta
Joined: 1/19/2011
Msg: 48
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 4:30:48 PM
As time goes by, through my own experience dating lately and what I see around me, and the input of my fellow forumites, I am beginning to see a common thread.

Something is happening that is causing a divide between men and women.
Women are evolving and men are stuck.
Both men and women were handed down certain roles and codes of conduct ... men do not question as much as women do.
Women are naturally more resilient and creative, and when we don't like something we do whatever it takes to change it. We know that there is strength in numbers, in community ... so we pool together with other women and it gets done.

Why am I not as confident now? Well no matter how kind, witty and honest I am my success rate in getting to the relationship stage is now closer to 10%, women I have gotten evolved with seem to not return what I give thus leaving me feeling unwanted while still claiming they want to be in a relationship with me. in those situations I feel like I have a place on their to-do list under hanging out with friends and just above clean the fridge.

^^ now, I don't know you personally, but your comments remind me of others' that come from men who are "stuck" in an old pattern.
Think about it, if women have changed, you'll have to change your game.
We (women) have to change over time. Nature requires that, wisdom is necessary. We begin to see clearly what worked in the past and what did not. We become more business-like. We are tired of the nonsense and desire to share ourselves with a man who is creative, flexible enough to value us and our contribution, trusts life (source of confidence), is not ego driven, and can make things happen (like killing spiders! lol... ), not an old little boy who is selfish, falling apart and crusty, and not growing!
We begin to see that it is possible to have it all, and we are not settling.
Mortalez, you have creativity on your side, lucky ... use it! Don't be stuck.

I can only speak for myself maybe? But I suspect that there are few things more irresistible to a woman than a man who knows where they are going and how to get there, with humor and kindness.
 ilovetodance1234
Joined: 4/5/2011
Msg: 49
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 5:14:38 PM
One of the things I also would genuinely like in a man is one who actually knows what he wants and goes after it. Nothing worse then getting involved, putting your heart out there, hearing and saying those wonderful words of love, etc. everything seemingly going nicely, then to all of a sudden to hear "I don't know, I don't know what I want" WTF...very confusing to say the least.
 Capitano_Blaugh
Joined: 3/18/2008
Msg: 50
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 5:19:34 PM
Something is happening that is causing a divide between men and women.
Women are evolving and men are stuck.


You know what I've noticed? When someone hangs out with only one certain group of people who are very homogenous in their belief systems, they tend to give each other lots of pats on the back for every little thing that is good and often fail to see anything positive in another group.... or that another group is moving in a direction that is actually good for them.

This is why the Mutual Admiration Society, to which all and only women belong, is so focussed on themselves that they sometimes fail to see what is really going on. You're all so busy hugging each other that you may be failing to see that a lot of men love the peace an quiet while they do whatever the hell they want without some woman trying to control... er, manage... ummmm... hmmm... "share" ....our lives.

Perhaps what you see as "stuck" may be that more and more men just don't see the point in chasing members of the M.A.S as they running willy-nilly hither and yon "evolving". The younger guys are still gonna chase, of course, but things are changing and I think it'd be great if my sons have vasectomies, just bang away, get well educated, have fun, never get married...

... and evolve in a way that's good for themselves, not in some way defined by women.


But I suspect that there are few things more irresistible to a woman than a man who knows where they are going and how to get there, with humor and kindness.


Which is exactly why I tell my boys to do what they want for themselves and not worry about getting involved with women. Women will come and go, but they have to live with themselves until they croak. They might as well have lots of fun in the process.

 NotYouFatJesus
Joined: 6/18/2011
Msg: 51
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 5:41:14 PM
I definitely just want a man other women think is just average but I see as unreal. I wouldn't want the guy all the women want, I want one who I see as super special and unique.
 Paddy_o_Lantern
Joined: 12/9/2009
Msg: 52
What do women want?
Posted: 7/23/2011 5:43:53 PM

I definitely just want a man other women think is just average but I see as unreal. I wouldn't want the guy all the women want, I want one who I see as super special and unique.


From what I have seen that is easily accomplished for a short period with the help of alcohol.
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