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 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 51
Rick Perry - Page 3 of 8    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
Wings if that bugged you, you're really gonna love Perry's Floriduh Co Chair.

"We are under judgment. Do you know how many of the denominations now are suddenly saying, ‘Oh ok we think it’s ok now to have gay marriage, we think it’s ok to have gay preachers, we think it’s ok.’ Whole denominations! The Episcopalians fell off the planet, they think it’s ok to have gay priests. We’ve got other groups, one of the Presbyterians, they’re looking at voting, we’ve got other ones, they’re all of the sudden going, ‘Oh in the name of tolerance,’ and they’re forgetting God’s word completely in whole denominations. You know what, God is not one that’s gonna wink at sin, He will come and shake at everything that can be shaken. God is a God of judgment, He is. If we think we’re not gonna be judged…He judged Israel? Are we better than that? And sometimes I think we think we are, but we’re not. And God is shaking. If anybody looks at the news and has just seen what’s been happening recently with the floods, the fires, the tornadoes, God is shaking. Yeah I think you have God shaking, sure you have the Enemy shaking, you have both and I don’t want to say oh that’s the judgment of God or that’s the Enemy. But the reality is God is judging us, and I think it’s going to get worse."

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/meet-rick-perrys-florida-co-chair-gays-caus
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 52
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Rick Perry -
Posted: 9/22/2011 8:27:58 PM
i just watched the debate and man Perry just keeps on backing himself into a corner. He attacked Romney on RomneyCare and when Romney replied it was a state gov funded plan and that he was against a federal gov healthcare plan because each state should have the right to regulate their own healthcare system and not the federal gov. Yet Perry agrees that the state gov should be allowed to regulate their own healthcare system and not the federal gov? Talk about backing yourself into a corner. So, if one state wants a universial healthcare system in place because the people in that state voted for it then what is the problem? Yet he is against that but yet agrees that healtcare should be left up to the state gov. That makes no sense. You can't go well I agree it should be up to the people to decide what they want as so long as I agree with it. LOL....
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
Msg: 53
Rick Perry -
Posted: 9/23/2011 2:01:44 PM
BILL CLINTON
announces his support
of
Michele Bachmann
for president.

NO SURPRIZES HERE.

http://mmastandard.forumotion.com/t355-bill-clinton-announces-support-for-the-bachmann-candidacy-the-day-after-the-iowa-state-fair
 Ready4SomethingFun
Joined: 3/17/2008
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Posted: 9/23/2011 3:23:46 PM
^^^

Wonder what kind of "support" he wants to give her?
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 9/23/2011 6:49:59 PM
Wonder what kind of "support" he wants to give her?





Now that was pretty darn funny if i sa so myself.

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 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 56
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Posted: 9/23/2011 9:41:54 PM
@Message 60...
LMAO ... Bachmann sure looks like she's having an affair with that over-sized wienie!!!

But what does that have to do with Rick Perry? I thought this thread was supposed to be about Rick Perry.
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
Msg: 57
Rick Perry -
Posted: 9/24/2011 1:10:56 AM
What's the old saying? If it makes just one person lighten up and laugh it was well worth it.

(Actually I took a quick glance at the above posts and presumed, apparently incorrectly, that the convo had turned toward the debates).

Play through.....
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 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 58
Rick Perry -
Posted: 9/24/2011 8:07:17 PM
Rot Roh, Rick!!!



Posted on Saturday, 09.24.11
2012 GOP PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY

Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble

Herman Cain, the former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, rallied Republicans in Orlando to win a stunning victory in the Presidency 5 straw poll.

PRESIDENCY 5 RESULTS
In a stunning upset Saturday, Herman Cain won Florida’s Presidency 5 straw poll, a vote of 2,657 Republican activists that in past years has predicted the party nominee. Here are the results:
Herman Cain: 37 percent
Rick Perry: 15 percent
Mitt Romney: 14 percent
Rick Santorum: 10.9 percent
Ron Paul: 10.4 percent
Newt Gingrich: 8.4 percent
Jon Huntsman: 2.3 percent
Michelle Bachmann: 1.5 percent
Gary Johnson (not on ballot)

[...]

"Let’s send a message to Washington,” [Cain] shouted. “We the people are still in charge of this country!"

It resonated in a convention where vendors sold “Don’t Tread on Me” ties and some activists dressed as revolutionary soldiers with tri-corner hats. After the vote, people streamed out of the convention hall roaring: “No more RINOS! No more RINOS!” — an acronym for Republicans in Name Only.

The vote and spectacle underscored that Cain, who polled in single digits this week, is the new tea party darling. And Michele Bachmann isn’t. She was the big loser, coming in last place. Once a top-tier candidate who won the Iowa straw poll, Bachmann had trouble breaking through in recent debates, failed to give specifics and didn’t reach out to the Presidency 5 grassroots voters.

Perry issued a written statement congratulating Cain...

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/24/2423241/hermain-cain-wins-florida-straw.html#ixzz1Yvgbx4JD

edit - just found this gem on the second page of the article:
Ana Navarro, of Miami-Dade and an advisor to Jon Huntsman, said Perry is more show than substance.

“Rick Perry is a Texas stud, a real macho-man who looks great in cowboy hat and boots and was supposed to come galloping on his stallion to rescue Republicans and lead us to the promise land,” said Navarro, an advisor to Huntsman’s campaign. “But it’s become increasingly clear he can’t perform. He has electile dysfunction.
[...]
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/24/2423241_p2/hermain-cain-wins-florida-straw.html#ixzz1YvjH3S4A




Video of Herman Cain's speech in Florida:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xOGzx_zkrNE





CPAC don't want no stinkin' RINOs!!!

 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 9/25/2011 1:32:59 AM
Rick Perry got slammed at the latest GOP debate. I mean the whole well i will give illegal children from iilegal parents breaks in their college tuition while US citizens have to pay full price for their tuition really backed him into a corner he couldn't get out of. I def do not think it's fair. No one was saying illegal children from illegal parents shouldn't have a right to go to college and become a US citizen in the process, I mean it wasn't their fault that they came over here with their parents illegally, people were saying hey it's not fair to give them a break on their tuition to go to college, while US citizens have to pay full tuition to go to college. To sit there and say people that disagree with him don't have a heart, because they think it's not fair is absolutely ridiculous. What else do you have in store for us Perry? First, social security is a scam and now we are all a bunch of heartless people because of something that isn't fair. What's next from him? Gay people were sent here by the devil to corrupt and destory the human population with their aids. LOL I wouldn't put it past this idiot, but he sure does make for some entertaining TV though, so thats one thing he has got going for him. lol
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 9/25/2011 6:47:59 AM
i've never cared for obama at all. i mean you look at some of my post that go back in 2008 on obama and i had a lot of negative things to say about him but when he first got elected I tried giving him a chance though.

LOL i was laughing my tail off when i saw this. SNL really took it to Perry.

Saturday Night Live GOP Debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQr9sTBC7ck
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 61
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Posted: 9/25/2011 11:33:30 AM
Looks like the more the masses find out about Perry, the more hat and less cattle he has.
Remember his heartfelt statement about why he set forth his HPV vaccine executive order? The lady with cervical cancer who beseeched him? Oops.

"The woman Rick Perry mentioned in the Republican debate Thursday was Heather Burcham, a thirty one year old woman dying from cervical cancer. But what Perry left out in his answer was that he met her AFTER he issued his executive order."

So, theres a lie right there. Anyone want to believe he WASN'T paying off his buddies at Merck?

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/rick-perry-misleading-statements-about-hi-0
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 9/25/2011 3:05:31 PM
I think all of them botched the whole if you if a 30 year old chooses not to get health insurance and was in a coma question. I mean it was a pretty simple answer , keep him on life support until the doctors say there isn't any chance of him getting out of a coma and then do what you have to do. If he awakes from the coma then great he would have to pay back the hospital for as long as it takes. On one hand you don't let a guy die, but on the other hand there has to be reasonability to be account for.

That's the thing i don't understand why that was such a hard question to answer.
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 63
Rick Perry -
Posted: 9/29/2011 12:40:59 AM
msg. 67:


Im slightly amused, however I feel lead to point out the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty that some including the OP (IMO) have shown by their hardcore, extensive, thorough and well..good job of truly scrutinizing Perry. I quite clearly remember many of the same posters embracing Obama without so much as a feigned interest in any possible flaws or defects,and worse still attacked many of us who did express concern, distrust or anything actually that questioned his abilities..
It is the direct result of voters such as these that empower corrupt men to lead our nation.


Oh please. You just can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that many of us, and certainly I, did scrutinize Obama. We genuinely liked what we saw and heard. We voted for him. And, again certainly, I will vote for him again! Serious-minded voters scrutinize presidential candidates. It is our duty.



Thats how we Cowboys ride.

"WE" cowboys? Perry astride I can see. That other apparition I am trying to banish from my mind's eye...
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 9/29/2011 5:28:47 AM
I agree with some of what you say, but you are as full of exaggeration and hyperbole as the other side is.

OBAMA spent that money????? Congress is in charge of the purse, for one, and the GOP spent or firmly committed MOST of that before Obama even got sworn in. The huge debt mess is a joint effort by both parties incompetence, with LOTS AND LOTS of help from the irresponsible private sector. You are intelligent enough to know this.

EVERY Presidential candidate says he will fix everything when he's running for office, GOP and Democrat alike. Most of the time, EVERYONE who knows how the government works, knows that all a President can do to fulfill those INTENTIONS, is to veto bills that appear to cripple things or make them worse.

But the way the balance of powers is set up, NO President has the ability to select ONLY legislation he likes, and discard all the rest. Even Reagan, who made a big deal about rejecting the first Democratic budget bill he got, signed a series of later bills that did NOT adhere to his claimed strict ideas about fiscal behavior.

Does this mean I excuse Obama's failures? No way. But pretending EVERYTHING that's wrong now is due to HIM, is absurd on the face of it. At least it is, if you are willing to use facts, instead of passion to decide.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 65
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Posted: 9/29/2011 8:29:39 PM
"He's done more damage to it than any other President in our history and has spent more money in just over a year than almost the combined total of all the presidents before him.. Just imagine, a 1.35 trillion dollar deficit..Yeah, nice job there pal. You suck at math Im guessing. "

That not only a lie, it's a damned lie. Bush the second is the one you want to tag with that. The only reason it wasn't seen and admitted to sooner was he kept the invasions of Iraq and Astan off the books.

Stop making up your own facts. It's unbecoming.

Since I can't post the chart, heres a link to the chart;

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html?_r=2
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 9/30/2011 6:34:59 PM

But above all, the president alone is also responsible for preparing the budget of the United States, although true, congress must approve it, congress can only approve what it is presented. It cant pull one out of its a$$, nor create one of its own without Obama.
The budget would look a whole lot different if President Obama were truly lying to the people and not including the cost of the illegal oil wars ... eh?

The president has provided more than enough opportunity for people to create jobs ... they are not doing it. The theory is that if they can make Obama look bad enough he will not get re-elected.

Just goes to show you how racism can bring an entire nation to it's knees. And the Teabaggers just don't care as long as they get what they want ... the black man out of their "White House" ... right?
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 67
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Posted: 10/1/2011 7:17:56 AM
Taking the subject back to Rick Perry....

Does anyone still think he has a chance at the nomination? Putting aside partisan differences, it looks like his ship has sailed. Or more specifically, pulled out of the berth and promptly started taking on water. Being a Republican in Texas meant he's never actually faced scrutiny before and has neither the record nor wit to withstand any.

Gail Collins is trying to get a movement going to get Gov Butch Otter of Idaho into the race. Mostly cause he's got such a great name. He sounds like a porn star or WWE wrestler.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 68
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Posted: 10/1/2011 9:46:35 AM
Truthfully, it looks very much like the GOP is stuck on the Flavor of the Month club here. NONE of their contenders have much of anything to offer, especially when they cling to the Teabagger talking points. Americans ain't buying it.
 cotter
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Posted: 10/1/2011 11:16:17 AM

Truthfully, it looks very much like the GOP is stuck on the Flavor of the Month club here.
LMAO ... you've got that right.

NONE of their contenders have much of anything to offer ...
I recently saw something that I just can't forget which is probably the slogan for the contenders of President Obama ... "Republicans 2012: Keeping Millions Out of Work To Get One Man Out of a Job?"

Seems that's the priority here ... not the nation as a whole.
 CountIbli
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 70
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Posted: 10/1/2011 2:54:45 PM
"Taking the subject back to Rick Perry....

Does anyone still think he has a chance at the nomination?"

I don't think he ever had a chance. The powers-that-be are bound and determined to get Romney the nomination. Perry is just a way sideline all the other candidates.
 cotter
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Posted: 10/1/2011 4:48:37 PM

The budget would look a whole lot different if President Obama were truly lying to the people
How would we know that?
For starters, it wouldn't hurt to admit that Bush doubled the entire pre-existing national debt NOT COUNTING the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Didn't notice that the CBO waited until 2009 to recommend adding the wars to the budget? No?

Our current Debt situation, contrary to republican belief did not just suddenly appear the moment Obama showed up in 2009, not all of it is a direct result of Obama's spending.

Bush borrowed $4,899,100,310,608.48 for the wars while cutting revenue (tax credits for the top 1%) with the total cost of the wars being in the trillions.

Did Bush exclude his two wars from the budget?
It was not listed in the budget deficit.

And how did he pay for them without increasing revenue?
I believe it was termed, "emergency supplemental appropriations".

http://www.progressivefix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Arkedis_End-Separate-War-Spending.pdf
(Excerpts)

End Separate War Spending
By jim arkedis
february 2011

Introduction
It’s federal budget season. Before you doze off, stick with me: there’s a deceptive budgetary maneuver that is costing you billions in defense dollars, forcing progressive members of Congress into uncomfortable votes on Iraq and Afghanistan, and defying every historical precedent in Pentagon budgeting.
.........................

Under the Bush administration, allegedly “emergency” supplemental appropriations for war costs became routine avenues for backdoor spending. Their opaque nature and lack of oversight have created a propensity to fund low-priority programs that has sense of fiscal discipline at the Pentagon, bloating military spending.
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$200 Billion Wasted.
The Department of Defense (DoD) is the unquestioned champion of discretionary spending—money the government chooses to spend, rather than is obliged to pay for entitlements like Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. With more than $700 billion in discretionary funds available, the Pentagon far outpaces its nearest competition, the Department of Health and Human Services, at $80 billion.

Since 2001, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) estimates that Congress has approved $1.12 trillion in supplemental appropriations, 90 percent of which—$1.01 trillion—has been destined for the Department of Defense. One estimate is that Congress has no control over one-fifth of supplemental war spending; therefore, a rough calculation suggests that some $200 billion has been wasted in 10 years.

While those on the extreme left and in the Tea Party would like to see slashes in the Pentagon’s spending, what DoD’s budget really needs is not gutting, but a solid dose of discipline.

It has fallen to the Obama administration to
clean up this mess.
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It is clear that the very existence of supplemental war funding appropriations—not just abuse of the process—must be ended. Eliminating these appropriations is a solid step that could save billions of dollars by forcing Pentagon budget wonks to make real trade-offs and establish meaningful priorities. Further, doing so would start a change of culture at the Pentagon and curtail its “have-it-all” mentality, which only perpetuates America’s deficit crisis.
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Supplemental Appropriations Since Iraq and Afghanistan
With the onset of operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, the practice of supplemental budgets returned. However, rather than serving as a useful tool that provides emergency funding to the Pentagon on short notice, the 21st century’s version of supplemental budgets makes a mockery of their historical precedent. There was a justification for supplemental war funding appropriations as America invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003. After that point, politics got in the way. George W. Bush’s administration was so worried about prosecuting an unpopular war that it sought to disguise the war’s true costs. Bush White House economic adviser Larry Lindsey learned this the hard way. In 2002, he publicly estimated the cost of the war at $100 to $200 billion. This was an unrealistically low figure, but, since it was higher than the White House’s, Lindsey was fired.

Supplemental war funds have been steadily increasing over the past decade. Had the appropriations truly been reactions to unanticipated costs of war, the size of the appropriations would have varied widely from year to year along with the changing pace of operations. Accordingly, a graphic depiction would have more peaks and valleys. Instead, the size of the supplemental appropriations has increased—from $10 billion in 2001 to $189 billion in 2008—just like the rest of the Defense budget.



Taking the subject back to Rick Perry....
Does anyone still think he has a chance at the nomination?

Although not a fan, I am quite certain Perry will unseat Obama by a landslide.


Obama hasn't a chance in hell against Perry and I see no other candidate that will even slow Perry down.
Ya right ... the nation just can't wait to elect "Bush III".
 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 72
Rick Perry -
Posted: 10/8/2011 2:49:19 PM
But, since you insist, lets talk about the money that has been utilized (or as you claim "Bush spent") fighting the war in Iraq, a war that was and is absolutely necessary (even your super hero, Obama admits as much now.

...............

America was not the nation to actually declare, seek nor desire war with these murderous and violent savages.
We were forced to act in order to put an end to Americans suffering ongoing al Qaeda attacks on our own nation, her people, and on our own soil, attacks 0ccurings quite frequently while Clintons lazy a$$ sat around gettin his jollies off in the oval office.
Not that America first began suffering brutal attacks on Clintons pansie a$$ watch, no, we had indicted Laden for previous attacks against us many times during that whole decade but our efforts to catch the cave dweller failed.
Clinton only enforced the Arab world that Americans were cowardly, ignorantly believing wed continue to endure their persecution.
,
After an attack as devastating as the one on 9/11, had W been as big of a pansie as Clinton and done nothing, it would have further reinforced our reputation for cowardice. It would have raised the reputation of all terrorist groups by showing that we tolerate terrorism to avoid war. (oh and spending your beloved money)
...........
We were forced to fight, forced to defend, and were provoked to act.

Our immediate declaration of war, one fought by the worlds strongest military instantly spread a message that they may only choose between reforming voluntarily or having reform forced on them. Our furious citizens supporting a leader that finally showed that we were willing to fight, and that our reputation as cowards was bullsnit. Loud and clear was Americas message: we are extraordinarily dangerous when we do fight, and that it is extremely unwise to provoke us.


It is really amazing that someone who pretends to have an answer to serious questions would continue posting stuff that only ignorant people keep on repeating by now.

Let me help you one more time. Afghanistan, the country that was ruled by the Taliban in 2001 was the place where Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were operating from, not Iraq. Iraq didn't attack the United States. Bush and his cohorts lied to everyone trying to convince us and the world that we needed to attack Iraq because they had WMDs. It was all lies to justify the invasion of that country and get control of their oil wealth.

Stop trying to get people confused about who attacked the US on September 11, 2001.

It was Al Qaeda. By now you should know that after the initial invasion of Afghanistan Bush didn't do much to combat Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, because his main interest was to get control of the oil in Iraq.


Back to Perry, I saw in the news that the attacks on Romney's religion already started. A preacher allied to Perry attacked Romney because he is a Mormon, however, Bill Bennet ( think that his name is Bill, or William) a supposedly well respected, and nationally prominent Republican came immediately to the podium to let Republicans know that the attacks on the candidates religion shouldn't be accepted as a legitimate strategy in the nomination contest. It looks that both Perry and Romney were saying that someone had hit one "out of the park." The preacher for Perry, and Bill Bennett for Romney.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 73
Rick Perry -
Posted: 10/8/2011 5:04:47 PM
I'd be happy if both of them and their camp followers got out of the park and STFU.

The Republicans would be better served if they sat this election out, and took the inveening time frame to purge their party of the whackos like Bachmann, figured out who the really work for (If it's the big money and the corporations, fine just be open about it), and come up with a plan to do something to HELP the country, instead of attempting to return to the gilded age and gutting womens reproductive rights. Turning the country into a Christian Theocratic 1800s ain't gonna be good for the rest of us.
 CountIbli
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 74
Rick Perry -
Posted: 10/8/2011 5:17:13 PM
"Whatever "powers that be" that may back Romney will face a calamitous and likely fatal platform Perry will launch at the most opportune time: Romneys religion."

So far Perry has been distancing himself from the issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-responds-mormon-flare-perry-passes-204122938.html

Let's face it, given the choice between a Mormon and a Muslim who do you think the evangelical Christians are going to support?*

"Obama hasn't a chance in hell against Perry and I see no other candidate that will even slow Perry down."

Obama doesn't have a chance against a flaming bag of dog poop.


*This is not to suggest that I think Obama is a Muslim. However there's a large contingent of Americans, primarily the religious right, who thinks he is.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 75
Rick Perry -
Posted: 10/8/2011 7:59:17 PM
I really don't think Obama got many votes from the religious right last time - you know, when he won?

He's probably going to be going into an election when the entire world's economy is in the dumps. So the odds are against him. But he has done some good stuff - the interwebs are still putting up new funny images about bin Laden's death. If Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland manage to put their houses in order, then things should be swinging up by next November. But that's a pretty big If.

Presidents don't lose elections when the economy is on an upturn. Reagan was horribly unpopular 2 years into his term - it's amazing what a bit of an uptick can do. Remember that the economy in 84 had just made it back up to where it was in 80 - which wasn't firing on all cylinders then (which was why he won). But things were going in the right direction.
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