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 ForumFilly
Joined: 5/14/2008
Msg: 376
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Eli is too much of an egotist for me. Peyton is another story. He's a class act. Eli turned me off when he got drafted by the Chargers and whined until he got traded. Whiny baby had Daddy Archie pull strings to get him traded to the Giants. Eli will NEVER be the man his brother is.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 377
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/15/2012 7:14:44 PM

Eli will NEVER be the man his brother is.


How you figure that when Peyton has played longer and Eli has won way more bigger games than his brother ever has.
 ForumFilly
Joined: 5/14/2008
Msg: 378
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/15/2012 8:19:02 PM
If you read what I wrote it was
Eli will NEVER be the man his brother is.

Peyton Manning's Professional Awards & Records
NFL Awards
NFL MVP (2003 (shared with Steve McNair), 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
Best NFL Player ESPY Award(2004,[39] 2005[217])
11× Pro Bowl Selection (1999–2000, 2002–2010)[45]
5× First-team All-Pro (2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)[84][101][108]
3× Second-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2006)[57][65][121]
2× Bert Bell Award (2003, 2004)[218]
6× AFC Offensive Player of the Year Awards (1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)
1998 NFL All-Rookie First Team[45]
2004 AFC Offensive Player of the Year[83]
2004 Fedex Express Player of the Year[219]
2005 Best Record-Breaking Performance ESPY Award[217]
2005 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award[218]
2005 Byron “Whizzer” White Humanitarian Award[45]
2005 Pro Bowl MVP[83]
2007 Super Bowl MVP[118]
2007 Best Championship Performance ESPY Award[120]

Regular season Records
Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 11 (1999–2004, 2006–2010)[221]
Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (1999–2004; tied with Drew Brees)[3]
Most games with 40+ pass attempts in a season: 10 (2010)[222]
Most consecutive seasons with at least 20 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010) [45]
Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[221]
Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[98]
Most consecutive games started to open a career: 208 [45][223]
Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[224]
Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7–11, 2004)[225]
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, season: 6 (2004; tied with 1984 Marino)[225]
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, career: 24 (includes 2 playoff games; tied with Brett Favre)[226]
Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game)[227]
Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 4 (tied with Tom Brady)
One of only seven QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Tom Brady, Charley Johnson and George Blanda)[228]
One of only two QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions in two games (tied with Tom Brady)
Most regular games with at least 300 passing yards: 63 (tied with Dan Marino)
Most regular and postseason games with at least 300 passing yards: 71
Most games with at least 400 yards passing and no interceptions: 4
Most career touchdown passes in Thursday games: 25[229]
Most touchdown passes on a Thursday game: 6 (tied with Bob Griese)
Largest career TD-INT differential: 201
Highest career passing TDs/game average (min. 150 TD passes): 1.91 TDs/game[45]
Highest career passing yards/game average: 263.6[230]
Second-Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 22.5[231]
Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) [45]
Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts): 66[232]
Most consecutive regular season wins as a starter: 23 (2008–2009)
Most seasons with 10+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 11 (1999–2000, 2002–2010)
Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 8 (1999, 2003–2009)
Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 7 consecutive seasons (2003–2009)[233]
Only QB with nine straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002–2010)[45]
Only QB to lead five consecutive 4th quarter comeback wins (games 7–11, 2009)[234]
Most fourth quarter comeback wins in one season: 7 (2009)[235]
First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)[236]
Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular season only: 115 (2000s)[165]
Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular & postseason: 124 (2000s)
Most AP NFL MVP Awards: 4 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
Most Touchdown Passes in a decade: 314 (2000–2009)
Most Passing Yards in a decade: 42,254 (2000–2009)
Most Completions in a decade: 3,575 (2000–2009)

Playoff records
Most 300+ yard passing games: 8 [237]
Most 400+ yard passing games: 2 (tied with Dan Marino and Drew Brees)[238]
Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05[239]
Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England[240]
One of only four QBs to post a perfect 158.3 passer rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)[241]
Most games with 20+ completions: 14[242]
Most games with 30+ completions: 4[243]
Most games with 30+ attempts: 17[244]
Most games with 40+ attempts: 8[245]
Most completions and attempts in a single postseason: 97/153 (2006)[246]
One of only 2 quarterbacks to complete 80% of his passes in two playoff games (tied with Kurt Warner)[247]
Most consecutive postseasons with at least one start: 9 (2002–2010)


Eli Manning's Professional Awards & Records
2008: Super Bowl XLII Most Valuable Player[88]
2008: November NFC Offensive Player of the Month[89]
2009/2011: 2× Pro Bowl Selection[75]
2011: NFL Record most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15)
2011: Tied NFL Record for longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards)

I would think that there might be more for Eli but unfortunately these were all I could find in the same location for both players. Granted, there is a 5 year age difference but then Peyton didn't play this past season either so you can make that a 4 yr difference. I don't see where these stats show that Eli is better than Peyton at all. If anything, I doubt that Eli will come close to Peyton's records, even if Peyton is never able to play again. And what I said was that Eli would never be the man Peyton is, not the athlete. I think if Peyton finds he can no longer play due to his chronic neck injuries, he will make the best of a very sad situation. If Eli was in that position, I wouldn't be surprised to see him act like the whiner he has shown himself to be. Their personalities are totally different which is why people love seeing Peyton doing commercials and making fun of himself. He's self-deprecating and gracious. Eli is an egotistical jerk who thinks he's the greatest QB that ever threw a pass and doesn't hesitate to say so.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 379
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/15/2012 8:55:57 PM

Eli is an egotistical jerk who thinks he's the greatest QB that ever threw a pass and doesn't hesitate to say so.


Not so sure what your seeing but Eli is the one that doesn't show any emotion...You watch him play and you can't tell whether his team is Winning or Losing and his post game interview is the same way...On the other hand Peyton will let you know how great him and his team played when they Win and go on and on and on...And you definitely know when Peyton looses you can see him on the sidelines it shows on his face pouting and definitely pouts during his post game interview.. But in your eyes Eli will never be the man his brother is...yea right.
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 380
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/16/2012 12:42:18 PM
I'm in the camp of cant stand Eli, arrogant prick, I hope he and the Giants make it to the Superbowl and gets blown out.

I hope the Broncos gives Young Tebow a chance at training camp, mind you If I was Pat Bowlen I would of made a deal with one of the CFL teams and let Tebow play there for a year maybe two to season him up, It worked wonders for Flutie, Garcia, Moon and a few others.
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 381
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/16/2012 2:03:04 PM
LOL you're right Paul, had to sneak that one in there, Hey I got to see Flutie play live, and Warren Moon, and Jeff Garcia, but then again I got to see Ricky Williams play live a few times once with the Argos ( CFL) and once when he was a member of the Dolphins and they played the Bills in Toronto.
 ChrisD1957
Joined: 12/20/2010
Msg: 382
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/16/2012 2:50:01 PM
He will get a chance in training camp. The fans will demand it and the NFL is about entertainment. However, accuracy is tough to teach.
 DartmouthRunner
Joined: 3/5/2009
Msg: 383
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/20/2012 4:28:13 PM
If Tebow seriously wants to be a long-term QB, he really should start cutting weight. The guy is just too jacked to be a Quarter Back. Yeah, it helps him when he starts running but all that bulk can't be good for a throwing motion.
 40Golfer
Joined: 5/10/2011
Msg: 384
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 6:12:53 AM
Tebow does not need to cut weight, he needs to work on his accuracy. The Pats tore the broncos apart and the Broncos need more big D linemen. Tebow was lights out against the Steelers. Give this guy time, and maybe McDaniels was on to something.
Tebow against New england was up against the Legend and Brady schooled him. Pats are going to win the super bowl.
 ChrisD1957
Joined: 12/20/2010
Msg: 385
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 8:33:33 AM
Both Roethlisberger and Newton are over 240. Palmer is listed at 236 as is Tebow though Tebow shows 6' 3" and Palmer 6'5". Its not his weight that causes his inaccuracy. He is not accurate because he is not accurate. I dont recall many inaccurate quarterbacks becoming accurate, The only one that seemed to make a great deal of progress was Vick. Vick will be the first to say his progress was due to him working his ass off which he never did before. Tebow already works his ass off. Sometimes is just simply lack of ability.
 TDH49
Joined: 8/13/2010
Msg: 386
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 9:26:38 AM
Good God enough with the Tim Tebow crap will you people. Just give it a bloody rest until next year. Never in the history of sport has a man with so little real ability talked about so much and given so much credit.

I can think of at least 30 or more quarterback in the NFL and 5 or 6 more in the CFL I would rather have as my quarterback if I owned a football team than Tim Tebow. Saying he is below average is an insult to the below average quarterback in the NFL.

That being said he has to be the starter in Denver next year. The fact that they won a playoff game dictates that he is.....But mark my words, with him at quarterback for a full year the Broncos will be looking at a 6/10 record at best. He is by far the worst starting quarterback in that division with Cassel coming back healthy for KC... And Denver will be looking up at the Chargers, Raiders, and KC from the bottom of the division next year.
 OutofControlMan
Joined: 12/22/2011
Msg: 387
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 9:27:24 AM
^^ but he has GOD on his side, can the other QBs all say that?

that is the same omnipotent GOD that helped the Allies defeat the Axis in WW II , though strangely enough the Axis also had GOD on their side (one with a different accent) . the same GOD that loves Americans and Republicans ( well actually GOD IS A Republican American)..so the best of the best, some people lie but we All know Jesus was really born in Missouri, USA.
the same GOD that will help USA defeat the Muslims (who also have GOD?Allah on THEIR side) very confusing.
what would GOD do if both QBs on two opposing teams prayed for victory? award victory to the one with the best prayers ? or ?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 388
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 9:35:58 AM

...but he has GOD on his side, can the other QBs all say that?

They could, but they just choose not to play the jebus card and let their abilities speak for themselves.
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 389
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 10:14:02 AM
Got to love the Monday armchair quarter backs and their comments about Tebow. I'm betting most of you haven't even played the position let alone the game Im not throwing the kid under the bus but im not about put him on a statue and worship him either.

Yeah Tebow is unorthodox but he is far from being a shit quarterback, do you know many Shit quarterbacks winning the Heisman in sophomore year and being in finals of the Heisman race 2 years in a row? how many shit quarterback won the Maxwell award in college twice?

He is far from shit, he's unorthodox, I will wait to write the book on this kid after 5 years in the league assuming he gets a fair shot, I'm sure some of you analysts thinks McNabb is a elite quarter back or Leinart ( another Heisman winner) now once again Im not comparing Tebow to McNabb or Leinart or any one else.
 hoopsnhikes
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 390
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 10:48:24 AM

But mark my words, with him at quarterback for a full year the Broncos will be looking at a 6/10 record at best.


I don't know...in order to take your word in this thread again, we might first have to see those pictures of you in drag that you said we'd see if Denver made the playoffs this year!
 TDH49
Joined: 8/13/2010
Msg: 391
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 10:52:36 AM

I don't know...in order to take your word in this thread again, we might first have to see those pictures of you in drag that you said we'd see if Denver made the playoffs this year!
Do you know the difference between LEADING a team into the playoffs and backing into the playoffs on 3 straight losses?.
 hoopsnhikes
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 392
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 10:57:37 AM

Do you know the difference between LEADING a team into the playoffs and backing into the playoffs on 3 straight losses?


Yes.

But your post at the time didn't specify that. It just said the Broncos had to "make the playoffs with Tebow playing quarteback."
 Cdn_Iceman
Joined: 12/1/2010
Msg: 393
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/21/2012 11:34:11 AM
I seem to recall that post about wearing drag if the Broncos made the play offs , I'm not sure who posted that I'm sure some one will bring us up to date.
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 394
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Posted: 1/22/2012 2:50:05 AM
The problem with Tebow is he's not a pro quarterback but a glorified college option quarterback. Pro quarterbacking is completely different from college quarterbacking.

If you look at the teams they beat, there were no great upsets there.
Did the Broncos beat any above average team ? Did they beat anyone who made the playoffs ?
They beat the Jets on a Thursday night game with the Jets having only 4 days off from a Sunday night game !
As soon as they ran up against a class A team, Detroit, or New England, they got beaten badly.

The Broncos completely redesigned their offence to accommodate Tebow's particular skills. Now, what happens if Tebow gets hurt ? What's the 2nd stringer going to do ?
 earthlingsRevenge
Joined: 10/30/2009
Msg: 395
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/29/2012 5:19:56 PM
I had to bring Tebow back.
I just saw a picture. Tebow has an amazing resemblance to young Joe Namath, except the hair style, of course.

Could Tebow be Joe's illegit son?
Anyone knows why Tebows mother went for abortion if the pregnancy was legit?

I have no idea why I'm spending my time on this. excuse me.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 396
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Posted: 1/31/2012 3:32:52 AM
Teblow is a HOMOSEXUAL ... it's proven ...


Ok and where is this so called proof?

 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 397
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/31/2012 11:59:24 AM
Yeah, say what you want about him as a quarterback, the guy must be the gutsiest player to ever play the game if he's the first out gay man in pro football.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 398
Tebow Time
Posted: 1/31/2012 1:24:36 PM

He has no proof, he's just a sad little man trying to get attention from anyone and we are giving it to him, so my advice, stop dignifying his trash with responses.

So are you saying that someone can not be gay and have a high moral standards?

Although that said, you have no more proof that Tebow has a high moral standards than the other person has proof that he is gay.
 GothamCityBoy
Joined: 6/9/2011
Msg: 399
Tebow Time
Posted: 2/2/2012 10:20:48 AM
Who is Tebow ? Is he some towel boy ?
 MrLove45
Joined: 1/31/2010
Msg: 400
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Tebow Time
Posted: 2/26/2012 6:28:15 PM
oh the tebowhaters are still up at it....he beat the hell out of your college team when he was a Florida Gator and now because the experts hated him without cause and now that he's so far a sucess in such a short amount of time they can turn their head fast enough to start kissing his ass... i love it...
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